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Re: William John Paynter

JamesPaynter_1 — 2009-10-14 20:18:52Z

Hi,

I was about to post pdf's of the family tree and the page of the China Overaland News about the sinking of the Shun Lee when the message board says I can only post picture files. If you care to send me your e-mail I can send them. I am james.paynter@gmail.com. Captain Paynter took a wife out to China who died over there. The family tree will show he married first an Elen Thelma Saunders and then Elizabeth Tonkin. The tree is by my father and I think he has it a little wrong. Tonkin is a local family we have interbred with several times(!) and is probably the first wife he took out. When she died the second wife was more likely called Wearne as this has been used a a second name for the next two generations. I will try to get my father to be a little clearer next time I see him.
What would make him perk up would be a proper connection between our branch of the family and the descendanct of Camborne Paynter of Boskenna (Walter de la Mare fame), there is a close relationship.

Lewis Paynter B.1817 Sussex Co. Delware OBIT

mt7676 — 2009-10-02 15:45:05Z

I found my g-g grandfather, Lewis Paynter's obit in the Wilmington Journal -- he was acutally born in SUSSEX COUNTY of poor means.... I know there were more accomplished Paynters from there...not sure of the connection. Lewis Paynter was a city Councilman in Wilmington... his parents were JOHN and REBECCA.. Here's a link to obit.... he had a sister HANNAH who married Edward P. Robinson, who died in his forties...she them married a Simpson. All are burried at WILMINGTON & BRANDYWINE Cemetery.

http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/exports/8/8c8f8126-7155-4f16-90bb...

Mike Thompson
mt7676@aol.com
917-733-9938

Re: Richard Brealey Paynter

ari2195 — 2009-09-29 22:14:29Z

hello im a direct decendant of richard brealey paynter. yes he came to costa rica to work as a doctor wen the roads were being built. there he met a woman who he had children with and they had children and so on until they got to me. i am trying to know more about the brealey family and how they got to costa rica so if anyone has any info please write!

Re: William John Paynter

Rhenvell — 2009-09-19 22:07:00Z

G'day John,
WJP obtained his master mariners certificate [3344] at Plymouth in 1864,before serving on a small tonnage vessel the Deerfoot for ca 1.5 years prior to moving to Cardiff,Wales.He also had a second master mariners certificate [23255]!!
Was unable to trace his movements after the wreck of the Jardine-Matheson ship,Lismore during 1870 until 1878,when he became master of the Shun See [sp?]
On the 1881 census he was boarding with the widow of his uncle ,Louisa Hodge,age 63 and her three daughters at Gabriel Street St Ives.WJP is listed as age 39,retired master mariner and widower.I traced his family tree back to Thomas Hodge and Elizabeth Rescrue pre 1800,before realising that WJP was not my great grandfather.Did so much research on his history before learning that I was following an erroneous lead,that I was loath to toss the data out.If you need any other information let me know.Out of academic curiosity do you have any knowledge about his first marriage?Could not resolve that enigma!!
Cheers,
Bob

Re: William John Paynter

Rhenvell — 2009-09-17 19:51:55Z

Will dig out the information on his early life and post it tomorrow.From memory he was involved in an earlier ship wreck and was demoted.Are you the descendant of his oldest son,William James born ca 1883 at St Ives?William sailed out of Cardiff on the Queen of Fac [1865-67] and the Regulator [1868-69]to Newfoundland and the Mediterranean.He was discharged as master of the Lismore,when it struck the wreck of a junk near the entrance to Woosung River and sank 9-11-
1870.My grandmother claimed on her marriage certificate, 1902,that he was her father.He was a widower,when he returned to St Ives,but I have not any proof that he was my grandmother's father.She was born in 1876,when he was probably in the near east.
Bob

Re: William John Paynter

JamesPaynter_1 — 2009-09-17 19:03:37Z

I did not know of his days in Cardiff. I would be interested to hear about them. The family says he earned his money by having the use of 50% of the hold with Jardine Matheson - the common arrangement in those days. Perhaps his rise in the JM organisation was more to do with trading than the ability to sail straight? Certainly he was rich enough to buy a silver service that was ostentatiously heavy, it is a work out to use the forks and spoons!
Are you a relation? I am a great grandson.
James

Re: William John Paynter

Rhenvell — 2009-09-17 17:24:25Z

Thank you for the information,James.Do you know how he obtained the money to build his large home?His financial status seems to have improved substantially after his days in Cardiff!
Bob

Re: William John Paynter

JamesPaynter_1 — 2009-09-17 11:17:06Z

William Paynter lived his early life in (Nr.6?) The Terrace, St Ives. He went to sea off the China Coast and worked his way up the ladder at Jardine Matthewson to become a captain. he was the first westerner to obtain a pilot's licence up the Yangtze river. He took delivery of the brand new "Shun Lee" in 1878 and traded in it for only 1 year when he sank it on a promontory off Shanghai. It was carrying passengers as well as cargo. All got ashore safely. I have a copy of a contemporary report in the China Post which I will try to scan and post.
He retired to Cornwall and built himself a large house outside St Ives which he shamelessly called Shun Lee. It is a guest house of the same name today.

Re: Walter Charles Paynter

estelle167 — 2009-09-09 11:46:13Z

To follow up on this note - I have managed to establish that Walter Charles wast he gg grandson of the 1820 settler Samuel Richard Painter who sailed with his wife, Harriet (nee Bailey) and his 4 children on the Aurora as part of the Sephton Party.

Re: Walter Charles Paynter

estelle167 — 2009-09-09 11:44:55Z

By way of a follow-up on the generation of 13 children - Samuel Richard Painter (1820 Settler to the Cape Colony) whose 3rd son was James Benjamin Painter had 2 children by his first marriage to Ann Whiting and 11 children by his second marriage to Mary Ann King. Walter John Painter/Paynter was the father to Walter Charles Paynter who was my grandfather.

PAYNTERS IN CO DURHAM, UK

ericmushins — 2009-08-27 07:00:12Z

I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has a family connection with the Paynters of Co Durham, UK.
Regards,
Eric

Re: Paynter/Maynor

tawahna2 — 2009-08-08 13:52:28Z

i dont know if you are still researchin maynors.
i was told that john was born around robeson co, nc and was Lumbee Indian, do you know of this. thanks tawahna
tawahna2@yahoo.com

Re: Paynter/Maynor

margaretann99 — 2009-08-08 13:51:19Z

I also forgot to mention that my great, great grandparents were John A. and Martha A Paynter.

Re: Paynter/Maynor

margaretann99 — 2009-08-08 13:49:38Z

My great grandmother was Rebecca Maynor Paynter. She was married to Charles Paynter but I'm not sure of his middle or first name. They were married in Wyoming County West Virgina in the late 1800's and had nine children. Benjamin, Harrison, Holbert, Otis, Blain, Wirt, Elbridge, Fannie, and Esther. Otis was my grandfather. If this is the correct family, I can supply you with a little more information.

Re: Maynor, Rebecca

tawahna2 — 2009-08-08 13:48:33Z

i am tawahna, my new address is tawahna2@yahoo.com

Re: Walter Charles Paynter

estelle167 — 2009-07-22 05:28:58Z

The detail of 13 children should be disregarded as I cannot confirm this and it may be related to an earlier generation. Walter Charles was born in Pretoria, South Africa on the 6/8/1895 and died in Port Elizabeth, South Africa 14/8/1953.

Walter Charles Paynter

estelle167 — 2009-06-20 13:37:02Z

Walter Charles Paynter, my paternal grandfather married to Frieda Agnes Zunckel in Bergville, South Africa in the early 1920's. He served in the Colonial Police in Tanganyika (now Tanzania) as a young man, farmed on a family farm in the Weenen District, Kwa Zulu Natal, South Africa, moved to Springs, SA and then To Port Elizabeth, SA where he died in 1953. His family came to South Africa from Cornwall in the latter part of the 19th century (not an official part of the 1820 settlers, he was one of 13 children, I am told, I am desperately trying to establish his parentage, if anyone can assist me I woul be very grateful.

UPDATE Re: Lewis Paynter of Wilmington, born in PA 1818

mt7676 — 2009-04-16 11:16:32Z

I found Lewis Paynter's father -- JOHN PAYNTER and mother REBECCA both born in Delaware. John in 1775... Rebecca in 1785. There is a record of a John marrying a Rebecca in New Castle County in 1799, which would put her at about 15 or 16... not sure if that is them... this girl's maiden name is FRED. Any Help? Thanks!

Mike

Richard Brealey Paynter

2008-09-04 00:02:43Z

Searching for information on the parents of medical doctor Richard Brealey Paynter who lived in Costa Rica circa 1830s.

Paynter would have been his mother's last name. Her first name was possibly Marianna?

Paynter-Harris

2008-09-03 23:40:05Z

Would appreciate any information on Richard Paynter and Mary Harris,who were married in 1855 at Launceston near the Devon-Cornwall border.They had a daughter Sophia [Sophey] born about 1857.

"Sadie Anna Paynter" My Grandmother

2008-09-01 01:16:51Z

I'am seeking for all the information I can get on my Grandmother,Sadie Anna Paynter,Born Sept.22,1896 in Kentucky, she went by her middle name, Anna for she didn't care for the name sadie,alls I know about her is her birthday,stated above,was married to a Hodge, one son, carlos Hodge,also married a Hitch, Herbert Franklin, my Grandfather, and they had one son, Herbert Jr.,my Dad and that she died on Feb.4,1968,and was buried under the name Anna Hitch,at providence cematery in Sico, Oregon. I would appreciate any help that anyone could give me. Thank you very much, Sincerly,D.J.Hitch

PAYNTER, Fred 1900 Llanelli Wales

2008-09-01 01:07:19Z

I am trying to obtain a date of birth for my grandfather Fred Paynter who married in1912. Whilst his marraige cert gives an age no record of his birth seems to exist around the date. Can anyone help.
Steve Paynter

James Asbury Paynter

2008-09-01 00:11:27Z

I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON THE PARENTS OFJAMES ASBURY PAYNTER. HE MARRIED SARAH ALICE YOUNG ON MARCH 15TH,1852. HE WAS BORN ON JUNE 3RD,1830 IN BICKLEY MILLS(RUSSELL CO.) VIRGINIA. HE DIED IN 1923. WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION ON JAMES THAT YOU CAN GIVE ME.

Re: Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

2008-09-01 00:07:18Z

I have Joseph Paynter and his families from Cornwall Eng.any connection

Re: Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

2008-09-01 00:06:38Z

My grandmother was Jane Wedge Paynter born 1869, married Nicholas Carbines in St. Ives, Cornwall about 1885.

Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

2008-09-01 00:05:59Z

any info on paynter family in cornwall. jane williams paynter, her father edward paynter dob approx 1802. i think his father was john williams paynter but no idea of dob. any info appreciated.

Lewis Paynter of Wilmington, born in PA 1818

mt7676 — 2009-03-24 21:31:36Z

I am at a dead end...my Great, Great Grand Father Lewis Paynter born 1818 in PA, settling in Wilmington... married to Elizabeth J. Stewart... having at leat one Child LuLu Paynter McCaulley. Lewis was a Superintendent of The Lobdell Car Wheel Co -- and was Water Commissioner and City Council member of The City.... his Daughter was married at Hanover Pres. Church. Any help or info would be appreciated. I had heard stories of the Paynter's living near Chadd's Ford, PA..... on route 2002 and rt. 1.... it was (before the Wyeth's) called PAYNTER'S CROSSROADS..... now it is refered to as PAINTER'S CROSSROADS.

Thanks,

Mike

Re: Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

MichaelHSimsJr — 2009-02-04 05:59:24Z

Yes I would, thank you.

you can send them to mike at moontouched dot com.

I'll try to share it with my grandmother Emma Jane Paynter Sims, but she's not online.

Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

MichaelHSimsJr — 2008-09-01 01:05:34Z

Looking for my great grandparents (and their parents). Here's what I know. Unfortunately, I don't have any dates. My granmother Emma Paynter was born April 1929. Emma married George E Sims (I have plenty of info on that family) in 1945 and then emmigrated to the US. She's the only one from that generation family to come to the US to my knowledge. Only Emma and Eva are still alive.

Her siblings are John, Joan, Eva, Mary, and Patricia.

Their father was John Paynter
John b. Mar 4 d. ~52 yrs old
Eva May Beckerleg (b. April 9th)

John Paynter's father was also a John Paynter.
+Emma Jane Berriman

Hannah Paynter

mfb4138 — 2008-09-01 01:53:21Z

Looking for any information on Hannah Paynter who was born somewhere near 1780 in Lancashire & married George Beswick in 1803 and died I think in 1807.

Re: John Paynter/Painter and Mary Rowat-Eng, NJ

luvmontana51 — 2008-09-01 01:47:18Z

I did not find a Charles Paynter, b. 1875, in any of my records. I have a Fredrick Paynter that was born in October 1869 in Rockaway, New Jersey but that is it. If I come across a Charles Paynter in my research I will post it.

John Paynter/Painter and Mary Rowat-Eng, NJ

luvmontana51 — 2008-09-01 01:45:06Z

I am looking for John Paynter/Painter b. Abt. 1821 to a William and Elizabeth Paynter in Redruth, Cornwall, England. He married Mary Rowat (?) b. Abt. 1819 in Redruth, Cornwall, England also.

I have found 7 children for these two from Census records. All of these children were born in Redruth, Cornwall, England.

They are as follows:
1 John b. 23 March 1843 d. Between 1881-1891 married Harriet Trinniman (have found several different spellings for this surname) on 23 May 1863 in St. Day, Gwennap, Cornwall, England. They had 8 children that I have been able to find. They were Alfred John, Annie, Fredrick, Cora, John, Eva (she died very young), Sylvester, and Hidella.
2 Grace b. Abt. 1846
3 Richard b. Abt. 1849 married a Mary A. ????. They had 3 children George W. (married Elizabeth ???), Ella, and Amy E. Paynter.
4 Mary b. Abt. 1853
5 Emily b. Abt. 1855
6 William b. March 1858 married Julia E. Day in about 1879 and they had 3 children according to Census records. Edna L. (married Alonzo Morris Allen), Elsie, and ??? (this name could be either Thomas or Frank but I am not sure, it is in the 1900 Census).
7 Thomas b. Abt. 1860/61

Mary and 6 of her children (all but John) came to America in 1865 on the ship Hibernia and sailed into New York. I have not been able to find out when and where John came into America. I have found the whole family in Springfield, NJ. in the 1870 Census (including John and Harriet with their family). John and Harriet then go back to England and are in the 1881 UK Census. It looks like the rest of the family stayed in the New Jersey area. I have found the family members throughout all of the Census records but would like more information. If any of these Paynter/Painter family members fit in your family tree I would love to talk to you and share information. Please feel free to email me at gltaylor71@msn.com. Thanks.

Gina Taylor

John Paynter/Painter and Harriet Trinniman

luvmontana51 — 2008-09-01 01:36:06Z

Looking for a John Paynter/Painter who married Harriet Trinniman on 23 May 1863 in St. Day, Gwennap, Cornwall, England. They had 8 children that I know of Alfred, Annie, Fredrick, Cora, John, Eva, Sylvester, and Hidella (Della). John's parents were John Paynter and Mary Rowat and Harriet's father's name was John Trinniman (the spelling may be different but sound the same). Any information would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.

Paynters in New Jersey & Montana

luvmontana51 — 2009-02-18 13:11:30Z

I am looking for the descendants of John Paynter & Harriet Trinniman(various spellings of this surname). They started in Cornwall, England then came to USA where I found them in the 1870 Census in Morris County, New Jersey. They then went back to Cornwall, England where they are found in the 1881 UK census. Eventually some of the children returned to America. Two ended up in Butte, Montana and two in New Jersey. I have found 8 children through census records. They are as follows:
Alfred John b: Apr 1864 St. Day, Gwennap, Cornwall, England
Annie b: 1866 St. Day, Gwennap, Cornwall, England
Frederick b: Oct 1869 Rockaway, Morris, New Jersey
Cora b: Apr 1874 Newhaven, Connecticut
John Fred b: Nov 1876 Londonderry, Canada
Eva b: 1877 Vogue, Cornwall, England
Sylvester b: Jul 1879 Vogue, Cornwall, England
Fidella b: 1881 St. Day, Cornwall, England

Alfred and John Fred ended up in Montana and Cora and Sylvester in New Jersey. Eva died in 1881 in England. I haven't been able to find any more on Annie or Frederick. I found a Frederick Paynter at FreeBMD death in 1889 at the age of 19. That age would fit but not sure if it is him.

I would really love to get in touch with anyone who thinks they may fit into this line somewhere and share information.

If you want to talk you can email me at gltaylor71@msn.com

Obit - PAYNTER, Henry Oliver

3170570 — 2008-09-04 00:00:55Z

PAYNTER, Henry Oliver
Born in Alnwick, Northumberland, England, February, 24, 1907, died, March, 30, 2005 in Kelowna, B.C. He is survived by his wife, Sheila and his six children and many relatives. He came to Canada at the age of two. Since 1927 until the week he died he was an orchardist, beekeeper and an athlete. At 98 years old he was the world's oldest competitive badminton player. (Guinness book of Records 2004-2005 ) Henry lived life to the fullest and was an inspiration to all who knew him

Re: Paynters & Carbines

andrewcraze — 2008-08-31 23:55:37Z

I believe Elizabeth and Jane Wedge Paynter were sisters of my great grandmother Margaret. There was always a story about a sister who went to Australis. There were also three brothers William, Richard and John.

Paynter--Ashwood

HBWarr — 2008-09-03 23:58:57Z

Looking for info on Margaret Paynter (Painter) b. February 1824 in Delaware married Benjamin Ashwood
Need help on her parents
Thanks
Herb

Re: Paynters & Carbines

Maroomba — 2008-08-31 23:54:50Z

Hi momacdo,
Thanks for your message, you either live next door to one of my 8 siblings,my only aunt or x1 of my 6 cousins. Intrigued as to whom! I have sent x2 messages via your profile contact & still haven't heard from you. Have tree for Isabella & Michael Gallagher as well as other Isabella siblings descendants from WA & Qld if you are interested. Same goes for anyone else searching for this family. Have been informed by several members of this website that the information on Isabella's Death Cert submitteed by her daughter Margaret, was incorrect as to her maiden name. Cheers, hope to hear from you soon.

Re: Paynters & Carbines

Maroomba — 2008-08-31 23:59:57Z

momacdo,
I have sent a direct e-mail x 3 via your contact details with ancestry.com. If you don't receive that, then call me on 0425312873.
Regards Debby from Leo, MaryJane Gallagher,Isabella Carbines,Elizabeth Paynter etc

REBECCA PAYNTER and M.S. LAWSON

thecowarts_1 — 2008-09-03 23:53:05Z

Hello,
I am a 3rd great granddaughter of
Michael Smith LAWSON, b. 24 Jan 1833 in NC; and Rebecca PAYNTER; b. Abt. 1835 in VA.
Does anyone have any additional information on Rebecca Paynter? I have been looking for her parents for years without any success. Thank you!
Dotty Cowart

Re: Paynter family in west virginia

tawahna2 — 2008-09-01 00:52:36Z

hello, i was wondering if you could help me find any proof of my mother almetta mae cregger, ferguson or blankenship. her parents were ??? but was raised by esther thelma paynter and her husband robert r. cregger. she was born abt 1930 in or around oceana wv. esthers parents were charles otis and rebecca (Becky( maynor Paynter of wyoming co. wv.are you related to my line? thank you Lilly, tawahna2@yahoo.com

Re: Paynter family in west virginia

tawahna2 — 2008-09-01 00:50:59Z

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me. My mother was Almetta Mae ? possibly Cregger. as she did go by that last name. she told me before she passed on that she thought that she was either a ferguson or blankenship. but i have found no proof of her being any of the 3 last names, she was born june abt 1930 in ore around oceana. the 2 people who rasied her was Esther T. Paynter and her Husband Robert Ray Cregger. no proof of that either. i have called vital records for her birth and no records excist in WV or Wyoming co. so my question is would you know of her parents etc? you may e-mail direct at tawahna2@yahoo.com thank alot. Lilly

Re: Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

tonybriggs138 — 2009-02-06 15:59:15Z

Hi Michael,

I sent the information to the address you gave - did it get through OK?

Tony

Re: Paynters from St Ives, Cornwall

tonybriggs138 — 2009-02-03 13:55:51Z

Hi,

I have information on the Beckerleg family from Eva May back to late 1700's if you would like it. My grandfather was Walter James Beckerleg, son of Eva May Beckerleg, born 1920, before she married John Paynter.

Mary, Joan, Pat and Eva are all still alive.

I also have a photo of Eva May Beckerleg and her mother Mary Uren that I can send to you. The picture was taken in 1954.

Re: Benjamin F Paynter/Josephine Wood

margaretann99 — 2008-09-01 01:27:19Z

I'm not sure if it is the same Benjamin Paynter but my grand father was Otis Carter Paynter and he had a brother named Benjamin. They were born in the late 1800"s. He also had brothers named Harrison, Holbert, Blain, Wirt, and Eldridge. He had 2 sisters named Fannie and Esther. His parents were Charles and Rebecca Maynor Paynter and were from Wyoming County West Virginia.

Piety Paynter- Stegall

ralfamily1 — 2008-09-04 00:15:45Z

Trying to find infomation on Piety. She was married to Thomas J Stegall. They had a son Edward born in 1876. I have been told he was orphaned and raised by his mother's sister. I believe from Palmers Spring VA.
Does anyone know the sister's name or more details on this? I know Thomas and Piety show up on the 1880 census. Thank you

Re: Paynters & Carbines

momacdo — 2008-08-31 23:57:23Z

My Elizabeth PAYNTER had a sister Mary born ca 1846 who married Richard Banfield RENOWDEN in 1867 Penzance.

In one of your messages, you said : "Have tree for Isabella & Michael Gallagher as well as other Isabella siblings descendants from WA & Qld if you are interested". YES, I am interested, please suggest how to let me have these details.

I am also interested in their daughter Mary Jane born 1892. I believe she married a Samuel. Do you have more info.
Regards

Re: Paynters & Carbines

momacdo — 2008-08-31 23:53:07Z

Dear Maroomba,
I have a Thomas Carbines (1815-1891) married to Isabella Hooper, they had a son Thomas Carbines (1841-1930) who married Elizabeth Paynter. In turn they had 13 or 14 children, of whom your Isabella (who married Michael Gallagher) and my Elisabeth (Bessie) who married Edward Cracknell. Hence our blood line is from these latter two. However, as we live in a small world, during my research, I found that my immediate neighours are descendants of your Isabella through her daughter's (Mary Jane) marriage.
I would love to find out more about Michael Gallagher's ancestry and of course about the Paynters and Carbines.

Eagerly awaiting a reply. Regards

Re: PAYNTER, Fred 1900 Llanelli Wales

amfitz771 — 2008-09-01 01:09:31Z

Hi Steve

This may or may not be the Fred Paynter you are looking for but here goes:

Frederick Thomas Paynter born 3rd Quarter of 1883 in Llanelly. Married 3rd Quarter of 1912 in Llanelly.

His mother was Elizabeth Williams born approx 1854 in Illminster, Somerset

I am currently trying to trace the Paynter family of Llanelli myself.

Paynters from Somerset and Llanelli, UK

jtaviner — 2008-09-01 01:57:20Z

Hi, I am looking for any information about Paynters from Someset, especially my great great grandfather Henry James Paynter and his family. Having be born in Somerset around early 1880s, he came to Llanelli in Wales to live and would like to find out more about him.
Regards Coralee.