Penn - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Enoch

mainlinerescue — 2009-10-21 23:11:49Z

Barbara, Believe it or not: I just read the message you sent to me nine years ago. I had been trying to reach Bob Penn. Was working with him on the Penn line many years ago. I found his old letters to me with his address but searched and cannot find him. Would love to talk to you.
Helen Smith
hsmith358@aol.com

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

stevesmith1972 — 2009-10-20 19:47:16Z

Hi,

I am not sure if you are still investigating but I am a decendant of Thomas Penn Wiliams first son from his first marriage.

Thanks

Steve Smith

Re: Ernest Penn desendents

rlynnpenn — 2009-10-10 20:47:31Z

I am James Penn the son of Jim Penn.Deloris is my first cousin.Please reply to rlynn_penn@yahoo.com.

Irving Penn,age,92.a fashion photographer ,Manhattan ,

KENNELLYMARKA — 2009-10-09 02:24:27Z

NEW YORK (AP) —
Irving Penn,
whose photographs revealed a taste for stark simplicity whether he was shooting celebrity portraits, fashion, still life or remote places of the world, died Wednesday at his Manhattan home. He was 92.

The death was announced by his photo assistant, Roger Krueger.

"He never stopped working," said Peter MacGill, a longtime friend whose Pace-MacGill Galleries in Manhattan represented Penn's work. "He would go back to similar subjects and never see them the same way twice."

Penn, who constantly explored the photographic medium and its boundaries, typically preferred to isolate his subjects — from fashion models to Aborigine tribesmen — from their natural settings to photograph them in a studio against a stark background. He believed the studio could most closely capture their true natures.

Between 1964 and 1971, he completed seven such projects, his subjects ranging from New Guinea mud men to San Francisco hippies.

Penn also had a fascination with still life and produced a dramatic range of images that challenged the traditional idea of beauty, giving dignity to such subjects as cigarette butts, decaying fruit and discarded clothing. A 1977 show at the Metropolitan Museum of Art presented prints of trash rescued from Manhattan streets and photographed, lovingly, against plain backgrounds.

"Photographing a cake can be art," he said at the 1953 opening of his studio, where he continued to produce commercial and gallery work into the 21st century.

Penn's most recent work was a series of still-life photos made of ceramics that he and his wife had collected in Europe. "They were as dynamic and as powerful as anything he had done in his 70-year career," MacGill said.

Thirteen of Penn's photographs are being auctioned Thursday at Christie's, including "Guedras in the Wind," a 1971 image of two Moroccan women, with an estimated pre-sale price of $40,000 to $60,000. A Penn photo, "Cuzco Children," sold for $529,000 last year, including an auction house premium of 20 percent.

Penn's career began in the 1940s as a fashion photographer for Vogue, and he continued to contribute to the magazine for decades thereafter.

He stumbled into the job almost by accident, when he abandoned his early ambition to become a painter and took a position as a designer in the magazine's art department in 1943. Staff photographers balked at his unorthodox layout ideas, and a supervisor asked him to photograph a cover design.

The resulting image, on the Oct. 1, 1943, cover of Vogue, was a striking still-life showing a brown leather bag, a beige scarf, gloves, oranges and lemons arranged in the shape of a pyramid.

In subsequent photographs for the magazine, Penn further developed his austere style that placed models and fashion accessories against clean backdrops. It was a radical departure at a time when most fashion photographers posed their subjects with props and in busy settings that tended to draw attention from the clothes themselves.

The approach made him a star at the magazine, where his work eventually appeared on as many as 300 pages annually. Penn believed his success depended on keeping the reader — rather than the model — in mind.

"Many photographers feel their client is the subject," he explained in a 1991 interview in The New York Times. "My client is a woman in Kansas who reads Vogue. I'm trying to intrigue, stimulate, feed her. ... The severe portrait that is not the greatest joy in the world to the subject may be enormously interesting to the reader."

He left the magazine in 1944 to join the military — serving with the American Field Service in Italy and then as a photographer in India — but returned to Vogue in 1946, taking travel assignments in addition to his fashion work.

Penn relished the chance to work in foreign locales, recalling in his 1974 book, "Worlds in a Small Room," that he had often daydreamed "of being mysteriously deposited (with my ideal north-light studio) among the Aborigines in remote parts of the earth."

In the 1950s, Penn moved into portraiture. He photographed not only the famous — actors, musicians and politicians — but also ordinary people. He published a series of pictures in 1950-1951 featuring plumbers, salesmen and cleaning women in New York City, Paris and London. The Getty Center in Los Angeles currently is exhibiting some of the photos.

His celebrity portraits included closely cropped images of Miles Davis, Spencer Tracy, Georgia O'Keeffe and Pablo Picasso, the last peering apprehensively from beneath a wide-brimmed hat. He once said that his formula for capturing meaningful portraits was to photograph his subjects relentlessly, often over a period of several hours, until they were forced to let down their guard.

A 2000 exhibit organized by the Art Institute of Chicago on his portraiture work said, "Penn's manipulation of formal design elements such as light and shadow, and his ability to capture a significant gesture, expression, or mood, ultimately reveal something intriguing about his subjects."

An exhibit of 14 large prints of cigarette and cigar butts at the Museum of Modern Art in 1975 was more controversial. It was lauded by some critics as a powerful elevation of the banal to the monumental, but criticized by others as self-indulgent.

"A beautiful print is a thing in itself, not just a halfway house on the way to the page," he once said.

Accordingly, he spent countless hours in his studio creating prints with costly platinum salts — a process that had been mostly abandoned at the turn of the 20th century, but favored by Penn because of its glowing results. (Most photographic prints use a solution of silver on the paper rather than platinum.) He would paint the platinum solution on the paper himself to create the effects he sought.

"Over the years I must have spent thousands of hours silently brushing on the liquid coatings, preparing each sheet in anticipation of reaching the perfect print," Penn wrote in his 1991 book "Passage: A Work Record."

Penn donated photographs to the National Portrait Gallery and the National Museum of American Art in Washington, and his archives are at the Art Institute of Chicago.

Born in Plainfield, N.J., in 1917, Penn studied at the Philadelphia Museum School of Industrial Art from 1934 to 1938, and worked as an assistant at Harper's Bazaar in 1939.

Penn married fashion model Lisa Fonssagrives in 1950, and for decades afterward she remained one of his favorite subjects. She died in 1992. One of his 1950 photos of her sold at auction in 2004 for more than $57,000.

Penn was the older brother of filmmaker Arthur Penn, who directed "The Miracle Worker," ''Bonnie and Clyde" and "Night Moves."

He had a son, Tom, with Fonssagrives. His wife also had a daughter, Mia, from a previous marriage.

Richard H. Penn Ill 1913

sharonasmarr — 2009-10-03 19:30:38Z

Searching for Richard's father who married Grace Story. Grace's family is from Glastonbury, Conn. Grace's mother, Adelaide Hale Story lived with them during the 1920s. The family was in Ill and then back to Conn. Found the Hale bible with this family and would like to connect with them...The bible was found in Tallmansville, WV. Please email sharona.bailey@gmail.com

Re: Penn Family in Indiana

vabookkeeper — 2009-10-03 04:39:15Z

I think I may be related. My grandfather was Charles Walter Penn. His father was Riley Wesley Penn. Riley was married to Ella BAKER until her death, then he re-married. Does any of this sound familiar ? Ella worked for over 15 years at the Howe Military School as a seamstress and Riley was a farmer. I am pretty sure, without looking this up, that Charles' brothers were Harold and Donald. The three boys did not get along. Riley Penn lived with Ella in Howe, LaGrange County, Indiana. Riley and Ella also had one son that lived only a few months. I think his name was Ronald S. Penn. I have several "Birdie" Penn's in my line. One's real name was Armeda Penn. My grandfather, Charles Walter Penn was born in 1905, I think and he married Helen Mae WENDEL.

Re: William Penn families in Wisconsin

WilliamPenn13 — 2009-10-02 17:04:37Z

Not related to Penn that i know of in Lincoln or Marathon counties

Re: William Penn families in Wisconsin

dbrengosz — 2009-10-02 16:57:23Z

Any relation to Penns in Lincoln or Marathon counties?

Re: PENN CONNECTION

WHART37 — 2009-09-24 02:25:18Z

Nancy,

Your great grandfather Salem and by husband's grandfather Ralph were brothers. Sarah is from Indiana and is buried in the same cemetary along with her parents Salem Clendennen and Elsie Prouty Clendennen and her grandparents. She re-married and became a Schaefer after David Huston Hart died. David is in a different cemetary along with his parents. (we have photos of the head stones) Write back if you wish to know more.

Barbara Hart

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

SpookiestRider — 2009-09-21 23:41:49Z

Hi!

I'd be glad to help you but I need a little more information. You can e-mail me privately and give me your Penna line as far back as you have it. I would also be interested in your Daniel Boon line as he is also in my tree. (Are we cousins or what???) LOL And if you could go back on your Boon/Boone/Bowne/Bowen, etc. line as far as you could, that would be great. I'm pretty sure that I have Jensen & Gottard/Goddard in my trees, too! You probably live in PA, WV, VA, OH, KY, MI or IN, right? Maybe we can get together sometime in Paris, KY if everything is as I'm thinking it is. Yay!

Bev

BRUCE CALVIN PENN FAMILY

lisanel2006 — 2009-09-04 23:44:29Z

I am searching for any imformation on the Bruce Penn family,possibly from or located at KY.or the Ohio area.
I am a relative.Please contact me at
lisanel2006@yahoo.com

thank you

PENN Anthony Edward 1920-1947

t42MountOlivet — 2009-09-03 00:07:00Z

PENN Anthony Edward 1920-1947

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Eudoxia Penn

KDoanStarr — 2009-08-29 16:44:27Z

Ron, do you have any further information on the parents of Greenberry Penn since your post of 21 Feb 2007? My husband is Great Great Grandson of Greenberry through his daughter Eva Cornelia Penn Reniker.

HARR Doris PENN 1903-1991

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-20 13:09:12Z

HARR Doris PENN 1903-1991

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 205,850 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Ohio Penn's

ms_deedee — 2009-08-17 00:10:01Z

I am researching the Penn's who came from Maryland to Monroe and Belmont Counties in Ohio. Please advise who Joseph is connected to (wife, parents, siblings, children). I want to see if my Penn line is connected to yours. Thanks!

African American Penn from Alexandria, VA

ctyler06 — 2009-08-14 19:42:51Z

I looking for information on the African American Penn's of Alexandria, VA. My father was name Charles Penn, DOB 3/13/32, his parents were Bessie and Soloman Penn. Soloman Penn DOB is 1/1/1892 and Bessie M. ( unknown maiden) DOB 1896. Bessie was born in North Carolina. I would love to find out Bessie maiden name as well what county in NC that she was born. Soloman Penn parents are Sidney and Mary Sophie Penn. Sidney was born circa 1870 in Alexandria, VA. Mary was born in Virginia but I not sure what county. I heard from family members that Mary Sophia maiden could have been Ford. Any information that anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

kjg_0210 — 2009-08-13 07:26:23Z

Hi,
My name is Kate Gray, and I, too, am a decendant of William Penn. My grandmother's maiden name, on my mothers side, was Penn, and originated from Tunbridge Wells, Kent - England. I was born in Australia, as Jennifer moved to Australia in the 60's to marry my Grandfather, Frank Walshe. Jennifer's father's name is Douglas Own Penn.
Perhaps this is meaningless information, but thought that you should know that there are descendants all over the world, and the stories that travel through hundreds of years of family is stronger than records.
Cheers.

Re: NJ Penn's

nanwalton1939 — 2009-07-20 03:08:53Z

I grandmother Mary Elizabeth Penn Foster was direct descendent of William Penn, and was in possession of the piano he gave to his bride. One of the first of seven pianos brought to the United States. Am looking for more information on Fosters and Penns....

Re: William Penn (Quaker)

ms_deedee — 2009-03-31 12:11:44Z

Thanks for this offer of information! Please contact me at ms_deedee@hotmail.com for mailing info.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

ms_deedee — 2009-03-27 11:26:32Z

Vicki, we are already in contact with each other. This is Debbie in Ohio. :0) Looking forward to the gedcom file and more collaboration!

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

papafrankh — 2009-03-30 19:15:02Z

Here is a little help
Frank Hatton

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/#...

Missouri Death Certificates, 1910 - 1957
Name Date of Death County City Certificate Number
Lincoln Elsworth Penn October 30, 1917 Wayne 37320 view image
Luke F. Penn January _, 1945 Wayne 3891 view image

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

papafrankh — 2009-03-30 19:02:13Z

I do not find any help for you in my files
Frank Haatton

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

papafrankh — 2009-07-14 17:44:14Z

The book is available at Heritage Quest. If you wish what I have downloaded, will need you e-mail address
send a message to papafrankh@aol.com
and I will send it to you

Re: Penn Families - England and America

rosemary_gatt — 2009-03-20 02:43:46Z

Dear Jenny,

I received both your messages; I just hope you receive the other one I sent through Hotmail. I'm sure it's my end, not yours. I found a letter/dictation given to my aunt, Gladys Bradly by Alice Gray, talking about the Bradlys. It's nothing terribly new, however, I will ask Lorry to photocopy it at work and send it to you. There is also a letter written to the Melbourne Age by Mrs Maud Bradly Pascoe, who talks about the ship "Julia" and a great-grandfather marrying a descendant of William Penn; I will also send this to you. It's just a bit more to add to the story.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Rose.

Re: Penn Families - England and America

rosemary_gatt — 2009-03-19 22:15:18Z

Dear Jenny,

I keep getting notifications from the postmaster at Hotmail to say that the emails I am sending are not getting through. Do you have a new one? If so, could you let me know as I have some interesting stuff I would like to share. Hope you are well.

All the best,

Rose.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

Beaker0024 — 2009-06-28 22:49:53Z

I found your blog and I have been looking for more information regarding the Penn descendants. My great grandmother Miriam Irene Penn, I was told was a descendant of William Penn, The Founder. However our own family tree has been lost. I am trying to build my own and of course have had trouble researching for information. Could you please give me some helpful suggestions on where to start? Thank you

Re: NJ Penn's

cvthompson — 2009-07-08 23:28:00Z

William Penn was the son of James Penn Sr., who married Elizabeth Judith Alloway. This is as far back as anyone has gotten with any certainty on the Penn line.

Charity Bennett Penn married him in 1785. They had five children:Ann Elizabeth, Joseph, Hester and Isaac.

DICKSON Millie PENN 1891-1959

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-18 12:38:43Z

DICKSON Millie PENN 1891-1959

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 204,880 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

PENN Julia A and Ezekiel A

t42Smithfield — 2009-04-05 12:31:54Z

PENN Julia A and Ezekiel A

NormanGuiling photographed this gravestone in the Smithfield Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 202,518 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

PENN Gordon Fay 1916-1981

t42Smithfield — 2009-04-05 12:31:16Z

PENN Gordon Fay 1916-1981

NormanGuiling photographed this gravestone in the Smithfield Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 202,518 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

1965nason — 2009-03-27 05:06:56Z

Thank you dear person!! I can write on forever too!! -- must be in our genes! anyway its taken me a bit of time but here's some of what I have
Fanny Maude Murphy b.29 Sep.1878 at Md d.28 Nov 1967
Married 18 Jun 1902 to
Harry Vinson Penn b.1 Aug 1873 at Montgomery County, Md
d.12 Aug 1962
They had 4 daughters
Emma Jane Penn b 6 Jul 1903 Md, d. 20 Feb 1984 married to
Joseph Fulton Snouffer

Lottie Bell Penn b 11 Aug 1904 in Md d. 11 Jan 2000 at DC
married to George Washington Goldsborough

Mildred Elizabeth Penn b. 2 Nov 1906 in Md d. 22 Sep 2001
married to Carroll Vincent Jones

Frances Lucille Penn b.22 Oct 1910 in Md d. 12 Aug 197Married to Robert Elliott Copes JR.
I have a good bit of info on the Murphy side but not much on the Penn side. Fanny Maud Murphy was my great grandma- she married Harry V. Penn (Pap) and Frances Lucille Penn was my grandma. As you can see I have some info, but not that much on the Penn side of my family! As to when the name change from Copas to Copes-- I haven't got a clue-- but I'm working on it :) ! Turns out that something similar is on my dad's side of the family-- we write our name "Nason" but in the 16oo's it was actually spelled "Nasson" Fun, fun-- oh well no rest for the wicked! :) Anyway, any help you can shed on the Penn side of the family is very much appreciated. Take care,
Charlotte Nason

Re: Penn Families - England and America

Ciaobella1007 — 2009-05-13 19:59:03Z

My great grandmother was Sarah Penn, born 5/4/1837 to George Penn and Helen Bunt in Northampton, England. I have tried to trace both parents back with no success. I do believe George Penn was still alive on 11/4/1860 when Sarah married Thomas William Latten in London because under father's name and occupation it is noted "George Penn, laborer". Does anyone have any information on either of these parents?

Re: Penn Families - England and America

anneatistic — 2009-04-25 00:53:18Z

hi my dads mothers last name was penn and i just wanted to know more about my family history . my grandmother died when i was young so i dont know much about my history . i just know that i am german and british.annie laurie penn was my grandmother and she named my father penn because when she married my grandfather she had to give up her name for my grandfathers last name . so thank u for ur time.

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

Caryn47 — 2009-03-30 19:25:03Z

THank you so very much. This stuff really gets frustrating. I FINALLY found something on my grandmother after searching for a long time. She was Nora Elmira Collins and she married my grandfather, David McHenry Penn (youngest son of Joshua)... Caryn Penn Sullivant

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

Caryn47 — 2009-03-30 18:31:00Z

I too would like an "invite" to the site. There has to be a lot more to my Penn group that I haven't been able to locate..... Caryn You can e-mail me at MOCHEETA@aol.com..
Thanks

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

Caryn47 — 2009-03-30 18:27:37Z

My family of Penn's migrated from Ann Arundel County to Missouri. My grandfather was David McHenry Penn. His father was Joshua Penn whom I was told was married 3 times and had several children per wife. His last wife was Mary Hester Hopkins. Prior to my father's death, I was shown a copy of a deed to the mineral rights under Belmont Race Track. Would you happen to have any info on this line? Caryn Penn Sullivant

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

Caryn47 — 2009-03-30 19:11:05Z

Thank you for checking. My Joshua was born 1813 in Ohio. In 1880, he was living in Wayne County, Missouri with wife No. 3, his children - Margaret, Elsworth and Caleb from previous wife(s) and current children along with step-children named Hechey (sp.).. He and this wife are buried in Piedmont, Wayne County, Missouri in the Masonic Cemetery for which the property was donated by his daughter Mira's spouse's family (Durham) donated the land..

Re: Penn Families - England and America

jenv11 — 2009-03-20 00:27:13Z

Dear Rose,

Have sent you an e-mail from my normal address - let me know if you didn't get it -I'm home for the day now.

Best Wishes,

Jenny

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

vbhull1 — 2009-03-27 05:00:47Z

Owen Penn and Emmiline Reed are my great grandparents. The Penn line, as you have probably discovered, in one that makes you want to pull out your hair in frustration! I have considerable information back to Owen, suspect that Higgison was his brother OR father. There are "some" sho think Owen's father was William G. Penn. If you want to send me your e-mail address, I can see what info I have that might be useful to you; I can send a gedcom file (I think I remember how). Have lots of misc Penn info - trying to find connections. Let me know more specifically which direction you are heading....Vicki Hull (vbhull@msn.com)

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

sabrinasmith761 — 2009-03-16 18:07:00Z

That is great! Question: I have a surname Penn and haven't claimed at this point to be a direct link to the Founder of PA. The reasoning for this is proof/documentation; My ggg grandfather was born in Switzerland according to his immigration papers.. I haven't done to much research but I am not sure if any penns traveled from Switzerland back in 1824. Have you came across any of this? His name was John B. Penn and his father was John and his mother was Elizabeth settled in Lebanon, PA.

Re: Penn Families - England and America

jim87_1 — 2009-05-02 10:52:50Z

Hello there Robert,
I am not sure if you are still using this site but i thought id contact you anyway. I am researching a line in my family tree that my grandmother suggested leads back to William Penn. She even claims to have lived, up until they were bankrupted, at the Penn home. will my research so far would suggest this last claim is a bit conviluted the first my have grounds. Her name was Violet Francis Kate Eastmure, i was wondering if you could if at all possible check to see if the eastmures conect anywhere to the penns. her vitals are:Birth date: 10/09/1889
Birth place: Brockley, Kent, England
Residence date: 1891
Residence place: Lewisham, London, England
Im not sure of her date of death, but i hope that you can find something with information. thanks for all your help.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

MuirnBeathaDan — 2009-03-16 17:51:27Z

Excuse me, I was wondering, since i saw that you found information on another persons family line,if you could perhaps verify mine as well.
My name is Kate Penna, and my Uncle toldme that he researched our family history and it led back to William Penn and Daniel Boon as well.
Some useful information about my family:
Father'side:
My great Grandfather's surname is Jensen.
My grandfather's surname is Penna.
Another of my great grandfather's surname's is Gottard.
If you could research anything of use, could you please let me know?
Thank You for your time,
Katie.

Re: want to id PENN's who married in Elbert Co GA 1815-1840

tunnelm1 — 2009-03-20 13:49:28Z

Since the Penn family was apparently out of Caroline Co., VA, one POSSIBILITY for Thomas A. Smith is the Thomas Augustine Smith who was a son of James Smith and his second wife Elizabeth Bowie. James Smith had first been married to Sarah "Sally" Apperson, and he fathered children with both wives. James died by Oct 1819 in Caroline Co., VA. I have traced this Smith family back to the John Smith who died in Middlesex Co., VA in 1669 (married to a Margaret Unknown).

Note: Even if the above should be correct, I am not sure who the OTHER Smiths who also married into the Penn family in GA could have been.

If there are any living male Smiths out of this line in GA, they should be encouraged to take the Smith DNA test. It APPEARS that there are three existing DNA donors who are part of the above-referenced Smith family back in VA.

PENN Ellen M 1909-1936

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-12 19:56:07Z

PENN Ellen M 1909-1936

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,355 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

ShirleyMiles60 — 2009-07-14 17:26:22Z

I would like to have an invite to your website. Thank you Shirley

Re: Will of William Penn, Found of Pennsylvania

ShirleyMiles60 — 2009-07-14 17:21:32Z

Is there a possibilty of getting a copy of this book? I would really like to have it.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

Bradhutchinson_1 — 2009-05-11 21:21:29Z

Hi all, I am currently researching my family history on my mothers side who is a Penn. I am a fourth generation New Zealander and have been able to trace my family back to 1797 to John Penn, born in Northamptonshire, England.
The reason I have been reading this forum is because I am researching info on the descendants of William Penn 'the founder'. My late grandfather Derek Penn (son of William) believed that we were also descendants of William 'the founder'. After spending hours trying to research William Penn's genealogy I am not so convinced that this is true. It doesnt sound as though any of William's descendants moved back to England?
The thing that interests me is the fact that many of my ancestors I have discovered have the names William or Thomas (son of the founder).
Can any one help me here? Feel like Ive hit a wall.
Thanks.

Re: looking for family

SassaRooch — 2009-06-16 05:21:14Z

Uncle Burt?

Re: Will of Joseph Penn

JerryScott12 — 2009-06-01 18:26:08Z

Hi, Some research done in the 1950 lead me to believe that
Elizabeth Penn and Joseph Russell were the parents of my
Lettice Russell that married Thomas Scott in Burke Co. NC
ABT 1775. Lettice birth was 1757 North Carolina.

No Sources with this research only the names of Joseph and Elizabeth Penn Russell. Do you know if there is any kind of connection here I believe my Lettice is to old for a connection. Thanks, Jerry W. Scorr

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

Steven_Schulman — 2009-05-03 16:55:37Z

I am starting my mother's paternal mother's side. Her name was Velma Merle. She died very young. My mother tells the same story of descending from The William Penn. As she died so young, I have had trouble finding information until recently.

This is what I have:

Velma Merle PENN 1907-1939 married to John Lester WORTHINGTON (descendant of Capt John Worthington of England/Anne Arundel Co, MD)

Velma's parents were Caleb & Louise Penn. Caleb's parents based on US census records were Enoch & Eliza Jane. Enoch's parents, also based on census records, were Joshua & Elizabeth.

I have not been able to do as much research on this side recently as I have moved to Johannesburg, South Africa and can't get to the archives as before until I make it back to the states.

I am wondering if there is any connection to what anyone else has. I would love to be able to tell me mother either way. Also, if anyone has suggestions on how to go as far back as I can, I would greatly appreciate it. One day I would love to dedicate all my time to genealogy, until then...

Thanks in advance,
Adiva