Phillippe - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Is there anyone outthere...?

lugo0130 — 2009-07-01 16:03:29Z

Hello! My name Luke Wayne Phillippe, descendant of Mark Wayne Phillippe. I was just doing a little checking up on my families well being! I've heard that my fathers side was enormous. But I have no clue as to the extent! Our particular branch hails from Indianapolis and Michigan. I will did deeper and recover more useful and older names for a more accurate representation of myself and family. Thanks for any help on the matter! Luke Phillippe

Re: Frank W. Phillippe

Phillippe2 — 2008-11-01 21:26:32Z

Hi Erin,

I am glad you responded. I have attached a run-down of what I have so far ...

Hannsen Benckhardt was born in 1532 somewhere in Germany. I don't have a wife's name, but he had a son, Johan Benckhardt, born 21 September 1583 in Bayern Germany. Johan married Anna Werner, born 1590. They had a son named Hans Joerg Benckhardt, born 16 June 1614 in Neustadt, Coburg, Bayern, Germany. Hans married Ursula Schneider, born 18 November 1609 in Bayern, Germany. She died in 1645 in Bayern. Her father was names Jacob Schneider and her mother was Anna Von Lahr.

Hans and Ursula had a son named Johann Nicolai Benckhardt born 7 July 1645 in Bayern, Germany. He died 30 March 1717. Johann married Anna Maria Kissman September 23, 1669. She was born 16 February 1651 and died 5 September 1710. They had two sons: Johann Benckhardt, born 28 November 1677 in Neustadt, Coburg, Germany. Johan died 20 May 1721. The other son was named George Adam Benckert (note the change of spelling). George was born in February of 1675. He died in 1702. I don't know who George Adam Benckert married, but he had a son, Peter Benckert.

Peter Benckert married Maria M. Scheuring, born 1687. They had a son, George Benckert, born 1727 in Lehrensteinsfeld, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany. He died in 1777.

I don't know who George Benckert married but he had a son named George Frederick Benckert, born 1764 in Bayern, Germany. George Frederick died in 1840 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

George Federick Benckert married Jane Childs, 18 January 1784 in Bermondsey, London, England. Jane's father was Samuel Childs. Her mother's name was Mary, but I don't have a maiden name for her. Jane was born 3 March 1764 in Dorking, Surrey, England. She died 17 January 1842 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. George and Jane had a son named James Matthais Benckert, born 5 July 1798, Swans Mead St, Bermondsey, England. He died 12 April 1859, Marshall, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

James Matthais Benckert married Hannah McDonald in 1822 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Hanna was born in 1804 in New Jersey. She died 26 September 1886, perhaps in Philadelphia, I am not sure yet. James and Hanna had 9 children, all born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Three girls - Catherine Benckert, born in 1826; Amanda Benckert, born in 1830; and Frances Benckert, born in 1845. Their sons were named: John David Benckert, born in 1822 - died 7 August 1876 in Philadelphia; James Mathais Benckert, born 1824; William McDonald Benckert, born 17 November 1827, died 15 May 1900 in Philadelphia; George F. Benckert, born in 1832, died 1 October 1865 in Philadelphia; Jacob Benckert, born in 1838, died 19 April 1883 in Philadelphia; and Thomas H. Benckert, born in 1841.

My part of the Benckert line follows Jacob who married Rebecca Jane Jones, born 1841 in Philadelphia. I don't have a date of death for her. Jacob and Rebecca had a son, Samuel J. Benckert, born 22 November 1862 in Philadelphia. He died in 1905 in Philadelphia.

Samuel J. Benckert married Charlotta B. Shoemaker, who was born in 1861 in Philadelphia. Her father was John Shoemaker, born in 1812. Her mother was named Elizabeth, born in 1822, but I don't have a maiden name. Charlotta had a brother John F. Shoemaker, born in 1860.

Samuel J. and Charlotta had a daughter, Irene Helen Benckert, born 29 June 1888, I think in Philadelphia. She died 17 August 1964 in Philadelphia.

Irene Helen Benckert married Francis Wainwright Phillippe 17 August 1906 at a Methodist Episcopal Church located at Fifth Street and Snyder Avenue, Philadelphia. Francis was born 4 February 1884 in Philadelphia. He died 13 October 1967 in Philadelphia. They had three children, all born in Philadelphia: Samuel Daniel Phillippe, born 11 October 1908; Francis, born 28 April 1910; and Irene Helen, born 17 August 1912.

My father was Samuel Daniel Philllippe. That brings you up to date on what I know so far. I am still looking and double checking information.

Hopefully, you will be able to fill in some blanks for me. If not, maybe I was able to give you some information. In either case, I look forward to hearing from you.

Re: Frank W. Phillippe

clubpeck — 2008-11-01 15:49:54Z

Would love to correspond. I have information dating back to Germany as well, but not much in the way of documentation. I have had to let my Ancestry account lapse and have been in the hospital a few times this fall so I am a little behind in my correspondence. I can be reached at clubpeck@sprintmail.com.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Erin

Re: Frank W. Phillippe

Phillippe2 — 2008-11-01 14:36:05Z

Hi,

I am Frank Wainwright Phillippe's granddaughter. My grandmother was Irene Helen Benckert.

The women you responded to is my niece, Pam.

I would like to compare notes on the Benckert side of the family. I have records dating back to Germany.

Martin J. Phillippe in Oklahoma

MarkArslan — 2008-07-12 16:25:44Z

Martin married 22 February 1894 in Franklin County, Arkansas to Lela Head (a daughter of William R. S. Head and Sarah M. A. Lewis). They settled in Inola, Rogers County, Oklahoma in the early 1900s. He was in the newspaper business. Lela died in 1917, Martin in 1927. They are both buried in Highland Cemetery in Rogers County.

Lela's family (Head) can be found on my Head Genealogy web site at http://arslanmb.org/head/head.html.

Bryan, I would like to hear from you. It sounds like we are 3rd-cousins.

Re: Frank W. Phillippe

clubpeck — 2008-05-19 00:57:43Z

Still here. Related through the Benckert line which goes on forever. Irene W. Benckert married Frank Phillipe on 17 Aug 1906 at 5th and Snyder M.E. Church, Philadelphia, PA. If you would like to contact me directly I can be reached at clubpeck@sprintmail.com.

Re: Frank W. Phillippe

aalderink — 2008-05-18 23:49:49Z

Hello!
I am hoping that you are still around?
I would like to know how you fit into the Phillippe family of Frank and Irene?

Re: Descendant of John Montgomery Phillippe

tjriddle — 2008-03-24 17:29:37Z

Hi Beth,
I am also descended from John Montgomery Phillippe, through his son Jasper Phillippe who is my great-grandfather. My grandfather was Bura Francis Phillippe and my dad was George Eldon Phillippe. I went to High School in Columbia, and am very interested in Phillippe genealogy. Maybe we could get together when you get back to Columbia. I now live about 50 miles from Columbia. Would love to have copies of any photos that you may have. I have a few photos also. Would also love to know where the original house was. You can contact me direct through my e-mail at: prudygreen@hotmail.com

Re: Phillippe in Rural Retreat, Wythe County

Shanel_Phillippe — 2008-02-04 03:57:57Z

My family came from Missouri and then moved down to California. I don't know if this helps but I hope it does.
Sincerely,
Shanel

Re: California /Oregon Phillippe's

Shanel_Phillippe — 2008-02-04 03:13:29Z

Hi, I'm Shanel Phillippe. I'm 17 years old and was cuirous about my family tree. Is there anything you could tell me that would help me understand it more? I know that my grandfather came from france and he was second generation.

LAWSON - PHILLIPPE marriage 1895 IA

grizziesgirl — 2007-12-29 22:49:33Z

Florence G. LAWSON (b. 14 Nov 1872 Steady Run, Keokuk Co., IA d. 21 Jan 1952) married Elmer Webb PHILLIPPE 1 May 1895. Note: this information is taken from family notes and it isn't clear to me if the marriage took place in Keokuk (likely) and/or Florence LAWSON PHILLIPPE died in Keokuk. In the 1930 IA, Wapello, Ottumwa census Webb was 59, Florence 56 and their son Harold W. was 22. The 1910 Wapello Co., IA census lists two sons, Henry 10 and Harold 2. This would put Henry PHILLIPPE as b. abt 1900 and Harold abt. 1908. There is an SSDI listing for Harold L. PHILLIPPE b. 9 Mar 1909, d. 24 Oct 2002 in Temple City, Los Angeles, CA; the SS card was issued IA.

My interest is in the LAWSON line. Florence LAWSON PHILLIPPE was a daughter of Sarah CRAFT LAWSON and Joseph LAWSON of Keokuk, Iowa. Joseph LAWSON was my great great grandfather. I am hoping to locate PHILLIPPE descendants or historians who might have information to share.

Re: Frank Waine Wright Phillippe

aalderip — 2007-05-26 13:45:56Z

Looking for family members of Frank Waine Wright Phillippe, married Irene Benckert,my grandfather was Samuel Daniel Phillippe who married Belle Caggiano (deceased)remarried Dorothy Maxwell, my fathers name is Samuel Louis Phillippe who married Barbara Ann Johnson. Any information would be very well recieved.
Thank you

Lenore LUXTON Phillippe

BFull5680 — 2005-12-08 23:00:59Z

Lenore married John Edward Maxwell
1.Living PHILLIPPE (Lenore)
+ Living MAXWELL
2 Living MAXWELL
+ Living GRADY
2 Living MAXWELL
+ Living CHAPA
3 Living MAXWELL
3 Living JR.

ANY INFORMATION PLEASE! Lenore's father is/was my cousin.

Re: Phillippe

2005-10-30 02:40:31Z

I'm looking for info on Henry Wilson Phillippe, born Germany 1827. Married Susannah Gertrude Bordeau, born Germany 1823. They lived in Canada where they had five children. I do have further info on decendants but nothing on ancestors of either Henry or Susannah. Appreciate any and all help.
Betty

Re: Frank W. Phillippe

clubpeck — 2005-04-04 13:30:10Z

Hi,

I don't know if you are still out there after all this time, but I have Frank Phillippe and Irene Benckert in my family tree. Please let me know if you are still looking for information.

Thanks

Erin

Phillippe ---Brick wall

2005-03-06 01:57:02Z

STILL TRYING to locate someone with more info...
Henry Phillippe, b Germany 1827. m. Susanna Bordeauz, b. Germany 1823. Children: Mary, Catherine, Fertinant, Augusta ( Gussie) Family lived in Canada and USA.. Henry and Susanna were my g-grandparents.

Sandy L (Fox) Kean Phillippe obituary

puppup — 2005-01-01 12:23:11Z

Source: The Sullivan Daily Times, Sullivan, IN Jan. 7, 2004
Deceased: Phillippe, Sandy L (nee Fox) Kean
Age: 56
Birth Date:
Birth Place:
Date of Death: Jan. 2, 2004
Place of Death: Vincennes, IN

Full obituary upon request to
dactackm@jlink.net

No relation to deceased.

James Phillippe obituary

puppup — 2005-01-01 12:22:37Z

Source: The Sullivan Daily Times, Sullivan, IN Dec. 17, 2003
Deceased: Phillippe, James R
Age: 84
Birth Date:
Birth Place:
Date of Death: Dec. 15, 2003
Place of Death: Indianapolis, IN

Full obituary upon request to
dactackm@jlink.net

No relation to deceased.

Re: California /Oregon Phillippe's

2004-03-20 20:40:53Z

Hi Pete, I know this is one of your old queries back from 2002, but i just saw it and lately found out the name's of my grandfather's sibling's. They also were all from Ill. But other than my grandfather, I do not know where the other's went too. My grandfather was Mathias and he was born in 1868. He had 5 other sibling's, Maria,Franz,Catharina,John,Gertruda. Could you please fill me in on a little more of your Philippe/Philippi's Thanks, Julie in alabama

Re: Phillippe family name

2003-03-15 22:53:50Z

Henry Wilson Phillippi and Susannah Gertrude Bordeauz
were my g-grandparetns. How may I help you?
Mary Phillippi maried Andrew Arthur; their son, Henry Wallace Arthur was my father.

Re: Orville Phillippe originally Knox county Indiana

2003-03-02 22:05:43Z

my gggrandfather's sister, Catherine "Lucy" Hooper(b. ca. 1849) married a Peter Phillippe and had a daughter Carry.(1880 knox census) Was that a son to Wythe co. Peter?

Re: Orville Phillippe originally Knox county Indiana

2003-03-02 18:18:47Z

My great, great, great grandfather, Peter Phillippe moved from Wythe County Virginia to Knox County Indiana in 1832. My father, John Gaylord Phillippe grew up in Knox County until he moved to Anderson, Indiana after he graduated from high school. Unfortunately, I do not have any record of Orville Phillippe in my lineage. However, if you can trace your roots back to Peter I would like to compare information.

Re: Phillippe - Wythe Co VA to Bartholomew Co IN

2002-11-12 23:32:36Z

Christopher Phillippi was the father of my Thomas Phillippe b. 1807 Wythe Co. VA and married there to Elizabeth Spraker/Sprecher. Oddly enough they had a son, William Harvey Phillippe, who was my gr. grf. b. 1853 in Hope, Bartholomew Co. IN. and died in Grant Co. IN in 1949.
~ Lou in Indiana

Re: Phillippe - Wythe Co VA to Bartholomew Co IN

2002-11-12 06:17:14Z

I have a Christopher Phillippe born in 1828, son of William Harvey Phillippe. Is this your Christopher? Let me know>

California /Oregon Phillippe's

2002-05-17 04:40:22Z

Keller Phillippe,from Springfield Ill. came west in 1946. Son of Lyle and Maribelle Phillippe . Lyle from Vincences Ind.
Son of Peter Phillippe ,was born about 1893.
Keller had two sons, Peter Phillippe in Santa Rosa ( bodiepete@aol.com) and son Matt in corvallis Oregon
Pete has a son too Evan and a daughter named Heather.
Hey, what does everyone think about a family reunion? Phillippe's all over the place? let me know

Re: Anne Marie Phillippe

2002-04-26 23:59:40Z

Hi! I have the line from Anne Marie Philippe as follows:

Jacques Dupre m. Anne Marie Phillippe
Robert Dupre m. Marie Jeanne Cave
Cecile Dupre m. Pierre Michel (Jarri, Zarichi, Miguel, Michel-Zoriche are all variants I've seen)
Their children were Pierre (m. Marie Adelaide Rachal 1817), Marie Rose (m. Silvestre Rachal 1813), Antoine, Catherine, and Marie Euphrosine.
Marie Rose is my line.

I am also descended from Anne Marie Phillippe through her daughters Elizabeth Dupre (m. Charles Lemoine) and Marie Francoise Poissot (m. Jean Baptiste Brevel).

Re: Roscoe Phillippe

2001-12-29 21:17:17Z

I have records and pictures of Kansas Phillppe's as my mother was Hazel Phillippe Faulkner of Wichita, Kansas. I have Roscoe Phillippe listed as son of Joseph Phillippi and Stella Worley. Glen and Delphia were his brother and sister.. Please contact if this is your family. Sue Hickey

Re: Phillippe family name

BFull5680 — 2003-03-16 18:26:46Z

Roger, your e.mail address of rphillip@smartt.com seems to be out of service.

Re: Phillippe family name

BFull5680 — 2003-03-16 18:26:34Z

Roger, your e.mail address of rphillip@smartt.com seems to be out of service.

Phillippe Alace to Texas

GGibsonDal — 2004-04-30 03:07:26Z

Emil, Frank, Frederick, Pauline Hanze all from Alace region or Germany to Texas (San Antionio), off boat in Indianola, TX in mid 1800's.

Phillippes

BCRAZY — 2004-06-25 09:33:54Z

Hello Lou, I have lots of info on the Phillippes you are talking about and indeed he was a 7th son of a 7th son. Will be happy to share with everyone. Bev
bcrazy@indianvalley.com

Phillippes

BCRAZY — 2004-06-25 09:33:54Z

Send me your email address and I will send you the files. Can you except a gedcom or I can send only the info on theline you want. Let me know the exact line. Bev
bcrazy@indianvalley.com

Email

BCRAZY — 2004-06-25 09:33:54Z

Hi Martha, I tried to email you at martylou@bspinet.com and it came back. Try to email at bcrazy@indianvalley.com
Bev

Phillippe

BCRAZY — 2004-06-25 09:33:54Z

Hello Richard, Well you will make my young female relatives very happy at our reunion this year. They begged me to make the connection to Ryan at our last reunion in 1999. Email me I have your line. Just got it all by the way doing lookup for someone else. Have 12 generations of Phillippes. My mohter is a Phillippe. Bev bcrazy@indianvalley.com

Mothers name

BCRAZY — 2004-06-25 09:33:54Z

Mona Phillippe, Shields

Anne Marie Phillippe

missado — 2001-12-30 01:59:24Z

I am a descendant of Anne Marie Phillippe through three separate lines. I am descended from both Robert and Elizabeth Dupre, from her first marriage to Jacques Dupre, and also from Marie Francoise, one of her daughters from her marriage to Remy Poissot dit Bourguignon. Would like to share information. Please email me at ardotson@hotmail.com.

Re: Anne Marie Phillippe

CharleneGremillion — 2003-07-01 20:43:09Z

Hi, I am also a decendent of Anne Marie Phillipe through
her marriage to Jacque Dupre. My chart shows that they
had a son Robert Dupre, and Robert had a daughter Cecile Dupre who had a son Pierre Michel-Zoriche Jr. and they had a daughter Glocina Michel-Zorich who married Alfred S. Rachal I and they had a son Francois Valmon Rachal who
had a son Alfred s.Rachal II and he is my grandfather & the
father of my father Fred Rachal.

If you have any info on any of these people please let me know.

Thanks.

Re: Andrew Jackson Phillippe

msgoodpasture22 — 2004-03-13 19:46:45Z

Don, I have alot of info on the Andrew Jackson Phillippe who married Dorthula Ann Hall. Which is yours?

Mrs. R.D. Phillippe of Lubbock, Texas - J.B. Patterson Obit

Karengreenwarren1952 — 2004-12-06 17:37:18Z

...I recently found my grandfather's (Jesse Patterson) wallet which had the following obit in it. If anyone recogtnizes any of these people, please contact me as I have run into a brickwall and had never heard of any of these folks except for Alfred A. Patterson, mentioned in the obit. Note also, that there is no year date on this obit, which makes it difficult to track. Here is the obit verbatim:

J.B. Patterson Dies Suddenly

J.B. Patterson, age 76, a pioneer of this section, died Saturday afternoon at 3:30 at the home of his daughter, Mrs. C.O. Woodley, in Devol. Death was unexpected and sudden, and was contributed to a blood clot near his heart.

Mr. Patterson had been a resident of the Big Pasture since 1914, and had resided on a farm near Devol up until ten years ago, when his wife died. Since then, he has been making his home with his children. He was well known and respected in both Grandfield and Devol communities.

He is survived by these children: Mrs. C.O. Woodley and A.S. Patterson of Devol, Mrs. R.D. Phillippe of Lubbock, Texas, Mrs. Myrtle Day of Grandfield, Henry Patterson of Arboles, Colorado, and one brother, A.A. Patterson of Frederick, Oklahoma, as well as a host of friends to mourn his passing.

Funeral services were held Monday afternoon at 4:00 at the Baptist Church in Devol, conducted by Choice L. Bryant, Grandfield Church of Christ minister. Burieal was made in the Grandfield Cemetery.

...again, look forward to hearing from anyone who might be able to give me some dates to put with these people for better tracking... thank you...

Karen Green-Warren

Descendant of John Montgomery Phillippe

bab1970 — 2004-01-29 22:42:25Z

Hi Everyone,
I am a descendant of John M. Phillippe. He was my ggggrandfather on my mom's side. His daughter Lucy Pearl was my gggrandmother. She married John Alspaw/Alspach and they had two children Amy Leo (ggrandmother) and Reuben. Lucy died when Amy was 10 and Reuben I believe was 3 or 4. She was struck by lightening in 1904. She is buried at Dripping Springs Cemetary. I have several old pics from John and Elizabeths family as well as the farm house in Woodlandville, MO. Next time in Columbia plan to go to the actual house. Please feel free to contact me. Thanks. Beth

Anne Marie Phillippe

Elizabeth_McDorman — 2002-03-15 19:53:36Z

Anne Marie Phillippe b. 1707-9, Mainz, Palatinate Germany. Parents: Phillippe Scoup Tedt Anne Marthe. Married 1. Jacques Dupre' who drowned 6/25/1736, Natchitoches Parish, LA. They had 5 children--Marie Catherine, Jean Baptiste, Joseph, Robert Barbe Elizabeth. Robert Barbe were twins born after the death of their father. Married 2. Remy Poisot (1706-1788) in 1737, Natchitoches Parish, LA. They had 8 children--Remy II, Marie Anne, Marie Francoise, Marie Catherine, Christopher Athanase, Pierre, Pierre II, Julien. She died 9/21/1781, Natchitoches Parish, LA.

Andrew Jackson Phillippi

cherishell — 2002-05-13 16:41:43Z

I found extensive info in at the familytree.com web site under ancestors of Hans Phillippe. If you have any info on Missouri Phillippe (Phillippi) please let me know.

Missouri Phillippe

cherishell — 2002-05-13 16:41:43Z

I am from Columbia Missouri and am just starting my search I can remember my father talking about an Aunt Mildred. My fathers name was Bura and his father was Jasper not sure of his fathers name?

Jasper Francis Phillippe...Boone County Missouri

cherishell — 2002-05-13 16:41:43Z

Jasper was my Great Grandfather I am trying to find out his father's name? I have found a posting in the Boone County records of a JM Phillippi but do not know if this is it. I would also like information on Knox County Indiana Phillippe's moving to Missouri.

Michele

Re: Andrew Jackson Phillippe

JoeCameron58 — 2002-07-23 16:29:21Z

Don, is this Andrew, who married the Hall, or Andrew, who married the Hackler, and moved to and died in SD ? Do you have a photo of the Andrew, who died in SD ? email me at cameronnet@naxs.com Thanks ! Joe......

The two Andrew jackson Phillippe men

JoeCameron58 — 2002-07-23 16:29:21Z

To all Phillippi researchers - you need to update your records pertaining to
Andrew Jackson Phillippi, of Wythe County, VA. THERE WERE TWO - at
least.

Andrew Jackson Phillippi, the father of Charles Louis (Deacon) Phillippi,
was the son of John & Magdalene (Wisely) Phillippi, and this Andrew
married Margaret Hackler, daughter of Peter. This family moved to Carroll
County, VA, then to OK, and later some or all of the family moved to SD.

THE OTHER Andrew Jackson Phillippi, was a son of Joseph & Sarah (King)
Phillippi. This Andrew married D.A. Hall, and this family lived and died in
Wythe County, VA. This Andrew was dead by July 2, 1902, because this is
the date his estate was appraised. In December, 1903, a Commissioner, at
the request of Andrew's wife, D. A., settled the lands of Andrew, assigning
plots to each child.

The estate is recorded in Will Book # 18, page 101. The Commissioner's
report is in Deed Book 50, page 69. It would appear to me that this
information, taken from official court records should be enough to settle the
confussion about the Andrew Jackson Phillippi men in Wythe County, VA.

Orville Phillippe originally Knox county Indiana

billhooper11 — 2003-12-11 01:37:29Z

Looking for any info on Orville "Cotton" Phillippe from around Bicknell Indiana.Later Sterling Heights, Michigan.

Phillippe

wjwc — 2003-06-21 15:14:48Z

Searching for ancestors, parents, and whereabouts of Anne Marie Phillipps, b. ca 1715/1720, in des Allemands, Louisiana. Married Remi Poissot of Dijon, Burgundy, France.

Re: Roscoe Phillippe

suehickey1 — 2004-11-17 02:25:31Z

Update: The Rosco (Calvin) Phillipe in my line lived in Osawatome, KS and is listed the the 1930/KS/Osawatomie Census. The entire Phillippi(e) history in on Ancestry. Try Green Phillippi and work from there Green-Joseph Rosco-(Calvin Rosco). My cousin Jan LaMotte has been the submitter of this history. Please email me so I can give you a picture of Joseph Rosco Sr and (Calvin) Rosco born 1909 as a baby. Thank you, Sue Faulkner Hickey
<sue@irandpcorp.com>

Re: Charles Louis (Deacon) Phillippe

MaxineJohnson500 — 2003-11-21 23:48:30Z

I am not Richard Phillippe, but I am looking for birth & marriage records of Benjamin Franklin Phillippi and Anne Marie Boyts; both born in the 1850 census as very young children. Both born in Somerset Co., Pa., married in Somerset Co.; both died in McPherson County , Kansas 1902 and 1926. My e-mail is philmaxj@aol.com