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Re: Indian Piatt

jeanmiell  (View posts) Posted: 5 Dec 2004 6:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Piatt Berry
Thank you! She married Peter Berry in 1852 Marion co, Ohio. In 1860 she is in Filmore, Iowa co, Iowa. In 1880 she is a widow in Elm Creek Morris co, Kansas with kids and grandkids.

Re: Indian Piatt

Laverne Ingram Piatt  (View posts) Posted: 6 Dec 2004 2:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
It appears that your Tabitha Piatt Berry was the daughter of Stephen Piatt and his wife Mary McConnell. The Piatt Family Newsletter, Volume 4, 1989, published this 1850 census with approximate birth years added:

1850 Marion Co OH, p 44
Prospect Twp, 328/331

STEPHEN Piatt, 60, VA (1790)
Mary, 64, NJ (1786)
Dabitha? [sic], 22, OH (1828)
Hannah, 21, OH (1829)
Mary A, 17, OH (1833)
Susan DORN, 39, OH (1811) [married daughter?]

Neighbors to this family were the families of Tunis and Patten. Tunis is a New Jersey name. Also in the same census in the household of Josiah Tunis was SARAH PIATTE, 34, OH (1816). We wonder if Sarah was also a daughter of Stephen and Mary.

Stephen's family was a large one as the 1840 census for Marion Co OH, Green Camp Twp, indicates a household of 10 individuals:

1840 Marion Co OH, page 123
Green Camp Twp

STEPEN [sic] Piatt, 40-50
female, 50-60
male 20-30
female 20-30
male 15-20
2 females 15-20
2 females 10-15
female 5-10

Neighbors are Tunis families, but next door to Stephen was:

ANDREW Piatt 20-30
female 20-30
female 0-5

Andrew was likely a son.

In 1820 Stephen Piatt was in Muskingum Co OH, Hopewell Twp. That census, when compared to the 1840, suggests that there were four more daughters older than the oldest son at home in 1840.

Early Marriage Records of Muskingum Co OH...by Irma B Gobel, Roseville OH, 1946 shows:

29 June 1813, STEPHEN PEATT [sic] and Mary McConnell, by Joseph Tharp, Book 1. Other Piatt marriages in this book may be those of Stephen's sister, brother, and children.

We don't know any more of Stephen's origins other than he was born in VA about 1790. At that time VA included all of WV. We suspect, however, that he is a distant cousin of the Piatts of the castles of West Liberty, and also a distant cousin of the Piatts of Montgomery and Darke Cos OH. We would welcome a male Piatt of this line to participate in our Piatt Surname DNA study.

There were a couple of other Piatts in Muskingum Co OH before 1820--John who married and separated from Maria Carroll. This John was also in Marion Co OH, Green Camp Twp in 1840. And also there was an Amos Piatt who married Susannah Hawkins somewhere in VA. However, Amos died about 1815, leaving a young family, and missing the first Ohio census in 1820. I suspect that John and Amos were close relatives of Stephen, if not brothers.

In my research in Marion Co OH I discovered an "insane" file for Stephen Piatt. The term "insane" may have referred to what we call Alzheimer's, but the file was sealed and I could learn no more about it.

From a list of marriages in the Marion Library is this:

23 May 1852, GABITHA PYATT and Peter S Berry, by James Gunes, JP.

So, Tabitha, Dabitha, Gabitha---no wonder she moved away.

So, is there Indian blood in this line? Well, if Stephen is a distant cousin to the other Piatt lines, the answer is no, at least concerning the male line. Those males we have tested all have a DNA haplogroup of R1b which is Northern European origin. If Mary McConnel was born in New Jersey, the she would not be a Shawnee or Cherokee. But I can't speak to what other females in later generations may have brought to the family.

Hope this helps a bit.

Re: Tabitha Piatt Berry

jeanmiell  (View posts) Posted: 6 Dec 2004 4:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Piatt Berry Wiggins
I am so grateful for the time you spent helping me. This is wonderful information, and several others in my branch of the family (Wiggins) will also be very happy to hear the answer to this mystery at last! Poor Tabitha with her misspelled name, which I have also seen as Abitha and Tobitha. I will spread the word about the DNA study too. Thank you very much.

Re: Tabitha Piatt Berry Dates

jeanmiell  (View posts) Posted: 6 Dec 2004 4:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
For anyone interested in this Tabitha, her birthdate was Feb 10 1828, and she died 1891. She had 11 children, 9 were still living at her death. My cousin got this much from her obituary. Family lore says she was part Cherokee. The Berry family history gives her name as Tobitha Aloiria Piatt, and she perhaps married later Waide, then Kyle.

Re: Indian Piatt

Jean  (View posts) Posted: 26 Dec 2005 5:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
How interesting! On the 1880 census mine said born Ohio (age 52). If she really is the daughter of Stephen Piatt as was suggested to me, that particular marriage occurred in Muskingum county OH 1813. The 1880 census indicated her father was born VA and mother NY. She herself was married in OH to Peter Berry of PA in 1852 in Marion co OH.

Re: Indian Piatt

Karen  (View posts) Posted: 26 Dec 2005 4:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Barker, Piatt, Pyatt
My husband is desceded from a Tabitha Piatt but older than yours. Maybe the same family though. Do you know where your Tabitha was born? Do you know her parents or siblings? Many of the Piatt's in Ohio were Shawnee. Hoping to link more of them.

Re: Indian Piatt

Sandra Adams  (View posts) Posted: 22 Jun 2006 6:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Here is a website that says some of Tabitha Alviria Piatt's ancestors were Quakers. Let me know what you think?

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&...

Tabitha Alviria Piatt Berry

Sandra Adams  (View posts) Posted: 28 Jun 2006 7:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Tabitha Alviria Piatt Berry was my great-great grandmother. At
www.adamsm.ws
there is a list of her descendants.

Re: Indian Piatt

delmottp  (View posts) Posted: 1 Dec 2006 1:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: PIATT
Thanks for all the valuable information on Tobitha PIatt and her parents Stephen PIatt and Mary McConnell.

I am a descendant of Tobitha (pronounced To bi' tha) PIatt and Peter Stephen Berry. I was at a Wiggins reunion this summer, and visited with a great granddaughter of Tobitha. The great granddaughter is now 92 years old and in excellent physical and mental shape. I asked her about Tobitha (who died before the g granddaughter was born), and asked if she knew if she could have been part Indian. She heartily agreed that Tobitha was part Indian because she apparently did know Tobitha's brothers and said they all looked Indian. I have a photo of Tobitha, but can't really tell her heritage from that. Her cemetery stone is in Council Grove KS.

Thanks! If you know any more information, I'd love keep informed.

Re: Indian Piatt, Wiggins

Jean  (View posts) Posted: 1 Dec 2006 2:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Patty, I was at the Wiggins reunion in WA this summer. Did you mean the one in WA or KS? I am interested in your photo. Jean
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