Mia:

About the meaning of "ov",it doesn't mean automatically that you are of "noble" (what does it really means?)ancestry. You see,on those times there were no nobility and people had to have a reference when referring to someone. Population was scarce,and people often repeated their names.How would you differenciate two Georgys on those days?.Simple;by connecting them to an intrinsec characteristic like being from one place,profession,family relation etc. etc.In my case, Georgy,means that I'm the son of Georg.My grandmother was Lydia Ivanovna because she married with Ivan (Popov).. Now,it seems that my family belonged to a group of families that lived on what was called the Murom region.These families were known or called as "the ancient nobility".Later, some of them received noble titles,others not so,and others were awarded with but refused them.I suppose that with the "von" is the same. About the "koi":I have no idea. Since Poland once ruled in Moscow maybe it came from them.But I heard as a boy that we were related to some Swedish and Danish people too. And in fact I saw an old picture of my uncle Yura and his wife and they looked physically different from the "normal" russians. I saw some of my "uncles" that went to Chile with my father. The majority were, it seems, from the same region as my father and all looked the same.Big forehead,round head,long stoney cold faces and very very pale skin with icy steely blue-grey eyes..My father said that his and the others nose were byzantyne. Amongst them were the Ivanov's,Frolov's,Svietaev,Emelianov etc. I have a list with all those families and I'm going to search for the names that appear on your messages. I have to found the list first. I'm very sorry but I couldn't find your photograph. What I found is a lot of messages. It seems that you are in a frantic chase. Good luck. If you need any help I can give you,I'm just here. Bye. Georgy.