Probst - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Joachim "Jack" Probst '51 NYC (Greenich Village Artist)

jtroy2003 — 2009-10-11 17:17:22Z

Hello,

I just returned from a visit with some relatives in NY state, and I decided to Google my uncle Jack. That's how I found this post. My dad's sister, Mary, was married to Jack Probst, so Jack was my uncle.

At one point my family (I was 13 at the time) almost moved to Limerick, Maine, to buy the house next to theirs (Jack and Mary's). Long story short - Jack and Mary bought it and my dad's parents lived in the small house next door.

Jamie

Re: Probst, Iseli, Blattner

Donnag248 — 2009-07-12 20:19:52Z

I don't know if this is a link or not, but my great grandmother was Anna Maria Blattner born 30 Nov 1861 in Bern and died in Cleveland in 1890. She was married to Joseph Vogt, and her mother's maiden name was Iseli or Iselin. I don't have any more information than this. She may have had a brother Frederick who was born in 1859 and also died in Cleveland, but we have not been able to confirm whether he is related or not.

Re: Emma Probst

Link_Davis — 2009-05-17 15:24:55Z

no problem -- good luck in your search

Link

Re: Emma Probst

Link_Davis — 2009-05-17 15:24:23Z

No sarah

Re: Emma Probst

BeEliza — 2009-05-17 15:24:06Z

Do you happen to have a Sarah?

Re: Emma Probst

Link_Davis — 2009-05-17 15:23:52Z

No one with a first name of Emma

Re: Emma Probst

BeEliza — 2009-05-17 15:23:33Z

Well do you have a Emma Gillespie/Gillispie? I'm not quite sure if it's Probst or not. It could be Props also. I found the last name on a web site while looking for something else and came across the Probst last name. Who knows my uncle may have said Probst and my cousin just thought he said Props.

Re: Emma Probst

Link_Davis — 2009-05-17 15:22:47Z

Don't believe I have an Emma PROBST in the family -- sorry.

Emma Probst

BeEliza — 2009-05-17 15:22:26Z

Looking for info on a Emma Probst. Just found her maiden name. She may have been married to someone by the last name of Gillispie/Gillespie (I have 2 different spellings for that last name). Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Emma Probst

BeEliza — 2009-05-17 03:52:49Z

Ok thanks anyway.

Dr. Charles O. Probst (died 2 Apr 1933)

LeonaLGustafson — 2009-01-18 17:34:44Z

NOTE: I am in no way related to this family, and I have no additional information.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
THE COLUMBUS CITIZEN, Columbus, Ohio, Monday, April 3, 1933, page 2

Dr. Probst, Sanatorium Head, Dies of Pneumonia
Active in Ohio Health Work Since 1866--Funeral Will Be Held Tomorrow

Dr. Charles O. Probst, 75, superintendent of the Franklin County Tuberculosis Sanatorium, died Sunday afternoon at his home, 1410 Oak street. He had been ill a week of pneumonia.

Dr. Probst, since 1886, had been active in Ohio health work.

He was born at Middleport, O. [Meigs County], and acquired his early education in the schools of that city. He was graduated from the Miami Medical College at Cincinnati [Hamilton County] in 1882.

He practiced medicine for two years at West Columbia, W. Va. [Mason County], and then opened an office in Athens, O. [Athens County]. In 1886, he was appointed secretary of the State Board of Health, serving in this capacity for 25 years.

Was Medical Professor.
Dr. Probst was professor of hygiene at the old Starling Medical College for many years.

He was secretary of the American Public Health Association for more than 10 years a also was a former president of this organization.

Dr. Probst was a former president of the Ohio Society for the Prevention of Tuberculosis and the State Board of Health.

He was a member of the Ohio State Medical Association, the American Medical Association, the National Association for the Study and Prevention of Tuberculosis, and the American Climatological and Clinical Health Association.

Funeral Tomorrow.
The doctor also was a member of the Sons of the American Revolution and an honorary life member of the Columbus Club.

Besides his widow, Dr. Probst is survived by two sons, Karl Probst, Toledo [Lucas County], and Leighton Probst, San Francisco, Calif.; a brother, Earl Probst, Middleport, O., and a sister, Mrs. Lelia Hudson, Columbus.

Funeral services will be held at 10:30 a. m. Tuesday at the Schoedinger Co. chapel and will be conducted by Dr. E. F. Chauncey, rector of Trinity Episcopal Church. The body will be cremated.

Re: Barbara Probst m. Corpening born in Pennsylvania

brobst — 2008-12-07 20:07:19Z

Merry Christmas!

I am very familiar indeed with that family. I did a lot of research into those early Probst families some years ago, and all of the information is shown in the Brobst Registry on-line data base, rootsweb address below. Just go to Albert Corpenning's name and go from there.

Her parents were the immigrant Johann Michael Probst and his wife Anna Maria Kerr. Michael was born in Kandel, Germany, on 13 mar 1701 and immigrated in Philadelphia with his brother (my ancestor) Philip Jacob Probst and his sister Elisabetha Margaretha Probst Vossellmann in 1732.

There are some early erroneous records showing her name as Propst, probably because of a coincidental immigration of a Johann Michael Propst and his sister Barbara who immigrated in Phila a year later and founded the Pendleton Co, WV, Propst families. I have researched them, also, and those records are online at the Propst Registry on-line data base, rootsweb address below.

Feel free to contact me if you would like any further information.

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor, The Brobst Chronicles
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068 Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=propst1

Re: Barbara Probst m. Corpening born in Pennsylvania

rayfrey — 2008-12-07 20:05:29Z

According to the Brobst Family Historical Registry:

Barbara Brobst b. 2/1/1754 in Lynn Twp., Lehigh Co., Pa. d. abt 1829 in Caldwell Co., N.C. married Albert Corpening b. 3/16/1747 in Youmpts, Netherlands d. 10/30/1827 in Caldwell Co., N.C. on 6/23/1774 in Lynn Twp., Lehigh Co., Pa.

Her parents were Johann Michael Probst b. 3/13/1701 in Kandel, Der Pfalz, Germany d. abt. 1771 in Lynn Twp., Lehigh Co., Pa. and Anna Maria Kerr b. bet 1710-1715 d. aft. 1754 in Lynn Twp., Lehigh Co., Pa.

Albert & Barbara had 8 children; John, Abraham, Mary "Polly", Jacob, George, Elizabeth, Catherine &
David.

For more information contact me at rayfrey@ptd.net or the Brobst Family Registry at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brobst/

Barbara Probst m. Corpening born in Pennsylvania

kiradevin — 2008-12-06 22:50:55Z

Does anyone know who her parents are? I know that her last name is commonly spelled wrong such as Propst or Brobst. Has anyone searching for this name or a variation of it found a Barbara Probst born in Pennsylvania on Feb. 4, 1754? The date and place of her birth is recorded in her bible at the Ashville, NC library. The bible is written in German so she is of German descent. She married Albert Corpening on June 23, 1774 in Lynn Township, PA. The marriage info also comes from her bible. I'd appreciate any extra info.

Ella Mae Probst of Mason, TX 1924

drbrownlee — 2008-11-29 17:28:29Z

Ella is pictured in the 1924 Branding Iron, yearbook of Mason High School, as a junior. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone else.

Betty Jane Probst, age, 86, Born , in Castanea, " daughter of, Alvin Hanna and Marie Schadt Hanna.*( Lock Haven, PA, )

KENNELLYMARKA — 2008-11-15 20:59:58Z

Betty Jane Probst,

Betty Jane Probst, 86, of 557 German Rd., Lock Haven, passed away Monday, Oct. 27, 2008 at Robert Packer Hospital in Sayre.

Born Oct. 22, 1922 in Castanea, she was the daughter of the late Alvin Hanna and Marie Schadt Hanna.

She married Lester H. Probst, who survives, on Jan. 14, 1946.

Betty retired from Lock Haven Savings & Loan after 30 years.

She graduated from Lock Haven High School and was a member of Swissdale United Methodist Church.

In addition to her husband, she is survived by a sister-in-law, Grace Hanna of Lock Haven; an aunt, Kathryn Schadt of Rauchtown;
and nieces and nephews.

Funeral services will be Thursday, Oct. 30, 2008 at 11 a.m. at the Donald G. Walker Funeral Home Inc., 231 High St., Flemington, with the Rev. Ginger Baker-Betz officiating. Visitation will be this evening from 6 to 8 p.m. Interment will be in Swissdale Cemetery.

Memorial contributions may be made to Swissdale United Methodist Church.

Rev. Ginger Baker-Betz,"
Swissdale United Methodist Church.
"

Joseph Probst

katp169 — 2008-09-26 22:10:38Z

I am trying to confirm that Joseph Probst b Mar 2 1888 in Scottdale, PA was the son of Christian b Apr 1847 in Germany and Sophia b Aug 1858 in Germany. I am trying to find out Sophia's maiden name.

Thank you.

Re: Birthplace Of Anna Schissler

santinosmom333 — 2008-09-17 13:52:51Z

Did Anna Probst ever live in Colusa, CA? It is about 60 mi north of Sacramento, Ca. I found a black and white dated photograph of a woman dedciating it a Myrtle signing it Anna Probst, also writing "Colusa" on it. Colusa's population is about 5,000 today. I found it an antique dealer shop about 100 miles west of Colusa. It turns out that a Benedict Probst is buried in a Colusa cemetery and he fought in WWI. Anyone? I know there is also Schissler last name in the cemetery as well as other Probst's and I know some local Ottenwalters (if it is the same famimly...spelling is a little different)

Please feel free to email me at santinosmom333@yahoo.com

Probst of Swissdale area of Clinton Co PA

2008-09-14 17:33:21Z

Would like to know if anyone is researching these Probst/Brobsts? Will exchange info

Re: Probst/WV/OH - Can anyone ID these photos?

2002-01-22 01:22:59Z

I do not recogize the photos, but I appreciate
their value to the Probst family that is tuning in to your query.
Thank you for sharing your photos.
What year are they taken, do you know?
David Calvin Probst

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

chicoles — 2008-02-23 20:27:08Z

Hi,

I'm descended from the Probsts of Finsterhennen/Siselen. Where did you get the CD's? I'm interested in solving a family mystery which revolves around an apparent brother-sister marriage, and which I believe is likely to be the result of inaccurate record-keeping by the church or because of errors by customs officials who recorded the families of Probsts who arrived in New York on board the "Jupiter" on Aug. 29, 1833. The ship sailed from Le Havre, France with the ship's captain Michael Wells. The ship's passenger list contains heads of families and the names of members, but the descendents believe that the families were not listed correctly, thus resulting in errors of kinship and the mistaken brother-sister union.

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

chicoles — 2007-05-19 22:43:13Z

Thanks so much for looking this up. I'll go over the information you
sent and see how it agrees with what I have. I'll let you know ASAP.

Les

Re: Need Ship List 1832, Probst Family, 11 Children

chicoles — 2008-04-09 05:16:14Z

Here are some notes about who I think is the same Johannes Jacob Probst you're looking for:

"The Probst/Brobst family lived in and around Siselen and Finsterhennen, Commune of Erlach, Canton of Berne, a low-lying agricultural area of Switzerland. Though the Probsts apparently were primarily German-speakers, the area they came from is adjacent to a French-speaking area of Switzerland, so they may have spoken French and intermarried with ethnic French. My intuition leads me to believe that Maria, the wife of Johann(es) may have been French-speaking as she apparently called her youngest son "Benoit" instead of Benedicht as he was christened.

"Johannes Jacob and his wife Maria and at least some of their children left Switzerland in 1833 for Pennsylvania. The name Probst was quite common in the area, and there seems to have been some confusion when the ship which brought them landed in New York Harbor. The official who recorded their names and the families they belonged to probably made some errors, but it seems to me to be clear that family #2 with Johann and Maria as heads was the family from which my family is descended (LEF).

(From notes made by Ethel E. Probst given to me by Helen C. Waterbury.)
"From Switzerland to Pennsylvania, on the ship, Jupiter, Master, Michael Wells. Sailed from Le Havre, France to New York. Arr. in N.Y. Harbor on Aug. 29, 1833.

The Probst Names as they were listed on the ship's list of passengers:
age sex occupation from to

PROBST, Johann 32 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania
Anna 23 f
Jean 1-1/2

PROBST, Johann 61 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania
Maria 46 f
Catharine 20 f
Jacob 18 m
Maria 10 f
Elisa 6 f
Benoit 3 m

PROBST, Jean 28 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania
Elisa 12 f
Magdalena 11 f
Johann 8 m

PROBST, Jean 26 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania
Anna 24 f
Abraham 4 m
Johan 3 m
Frederick 1 m

Ethel Probst: "The ship's list may not be correct. I think the children listed for #4 should be listed for #1 and jean, age 1-1/2 should be with #4.
The #4 Jean corresponds to the passport for Johannes, and to the dates of birth for John, Anna, and John, Jr. as they are listed on the markers in the Swissdale Cemetery.
I also think the children listed for #3 should be with #2 and the 2 youngest children with #2 should be with #3.
The wife's name for #3 is missing. It may be that the children from #2 and #3 should be been listed for #2 and the #3 Jean Probst might not have been married. "

Johann Probst/Bropst was reported to be 5'2" tall with black eyes (dark brown?).

The first schoolhouse in Woodward Township was built on land owned by the Probst family, so it was probably donated by the elder Probsts, such as Johann Jacob, since in 1883 the land was listed as belonging to Benjamin Franklin (aka Benoit, christened Benedicht) Probst."

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

chicoles — 2008-02-24 05:08:33Z

Thanks for the info. on the CD's. I am certain that the marriage which appears to be brother-sister really isn't That group of Swiss immigrants were very devoutly religious and several of them were ministers, including some of the women. Because so many of them had the same name it is almost certain that someone made an error in the record. It's also possible that the man or the woman in that family was adopted from another Probst/Brobst family, etc. The mysterious marriage has been noted by the owner of the site and he has yet to unravel the puzzle.

Thanks again for your help.

Les

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

DCroak4636 — 2008-02-24 04:08:39Z

The CDs can be purchased in America,from "Picton Press", which can be found on the internet........their address is PO Box 250,
Rockport, ME. 04856-0250.
They are NOT in english, they are all in the old German Script type writing & if you can read it or can train your mind to read it, they are a gold mine!
And That was NOT a brother & sister marriage, there are lots of Probst & Bropst in that area, probably all stemming from one common ancestor, way back there.

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

DCroak4636 — 2007-05-19 22:03:12Z

Hi Les,
That might be Johannes Probst & Maria WAGNER, who were married in Finsterhennen before 1808......I evidently have not ran across their marriage.
I have listed for thier children:
1.Johannes, baptism date 2 Oct 1808 (pg. 201, book 4 babptisms 1752-1836, Siselen, Canton Berne Church records.
(Johannes married on pg 4 of marriages 1752-1836,Siselen, Canton Berne Church records, on 30 May 1831, to Anna Laubscher, daughter of Bendicht Laubscher & unknown wife.)
2. Maria Probst, born bef 1812. (haven't found her baptism, but she was listed on the baptism of her brother, Samuel's baptism as his sister on pg. 220 book 4 baptisms.
3. Catharina Probst, born 19 Mar 1812 Finsterhennen, bapt. 29 Mar 1812 Finsterhennen, Pg 207, book 4 baptisms.
4. Jacob Probst, born 3 Jan 1815,Finsterhennen, baptised 15 Jan. 1815, page 215, book 4 baptisms.
5. SamuelProbst, born 29 Jan 1818,Finsterhennen, baptised 8 Feb. 1818 Finsterhennen, pg.220 book 4.
6. Anna Probst, born 14 Jul 1821 Finsterhennen, bapt. 22 Jul 1821,pg.229, book 4. Anna had a cross by her name in church records, which often indicates that the person died, but I do not have her death date as of yet.
7. Anna Maria Probst, born 14 Jul 1822 Finsterhennen, bapt. 21 Jul 1822 Finsterhennen, pg. 234, book 4 baptisms
8. Elisabeth Probst, born 1 Jul 1826 Finsterhennen, bapt. 9 Jul 1826 Finsterhennen, pg. 246 book 4 baptisms.
9. Bendicht Probst, born 2 Jul 1830 Finsterhennen, bapt. 18 Jul 1830 Finsterhennen, baptism on pg. 260, book 4.

When I have time, I will go back into the baptisms and double check the mother's maiden name on the children listed above.

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

DCroak4636 — 2008-02-25 23:14:47Z

Hi Les & others,
Thought I'd add this, which might help any of you who have the Church record CDs of Switzerland.....or other German written documents that you cannot completely decipher on your own. There is a group of volunteers who will help you.
The group is a part of yahoo groups, & it is called transcribe@yahoogroups.com . I think all the particulars of how it is done will be on the yahoo groups home site.
It has been so long since I joined it, I have forgotten just how you upload pictures of your documents, etc. They are a great bunch of people and have helped thousands of records & documents be transcribed and or translated for many researchers & it is all FREE! :)
Dianne

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

brobst — 2007-05-21 19:39:17Z

Just to clear up the Probst/Brobst confusion.

Let me clear out one confusing factor right away. We are not related in any way to the Propst families of Germany and America. The Propsts come from northern Germany, the Probsts from southern Germany and Switzerland. The names mean the same thing -- a provost or administrator of a diocese or synod. The name Brobst is strictly American.

Anyone named Brobst descends from one of two Probst brothers who immigrated in Philadelphia in 1732 -- Philip Jacob and Johann Michael. They came from Kandel, Germany, in the Palatinate just west of Karlsruhe. Earlier, they had come from Kanton Berne or Kanton Luzern Switzerland in the 1600s into Bavaria, then down the Rhine to Kandel. In the case of Philip Jacob, the English clerks changed the spelling to Brobst; Johann Michael retained the spelling Probst. In the interests of family unity, some of Johann Michael's descendants changed their spelling to Brobst, too. Other Probsts came to America in the 1800s, including the bunch from Finsterhennen, Switzerland. They settled largely in north central Pennsylvania. Practically all of them retained the name Probst.

Now, for those of you Probst/Brobst descendants who trace back to the Probsts and Brobsts of Berks and Lehigh Counties, PA, in the 1700s. Philip Jacob Probst, one of the two immigrant brothers in 1732, married Anna Catharine "C'erine" Christ in Oberseebach, Alsace, France. She was French. Oberseebach is only about 20 miles southwest of Kandel, where the Probsts had earlier settled. I have bicycled all through that area while I was doing my Probst research many years ago. All of their first three children, all boys, were born in France, and so were French citizens when they arrived in America. In German, their names would have been Johann Michael, Johann Valentin, and Johann Martin. However, in France, their names were actually Jean Michel, Jean Valentine, and Jean Martin. Because Philip Jacob's brother was German only, and named Johann Michael Probst, I chose to use the French spellings in the archival records for two reasons -- (1) accuracy and (2) to avoid confusion with their uncle Johann Michael Probst. That was all done back in the beginning of Brobstology research, of which I was the primary contributor. And, yes, once in America, they used the German spelling, not the French spelling.

But genealogical protocol requires the listing of the birth names and spellings, not later-acquired ones. Now, to make things even more confusing, the three daughters of Philip Jacob and C'erine were all born in Berks Co, PA, and their baptismal records clearly show Brobst, which by then was their American spelling. So PJ and C'erine had six children, three named Probst at birth, and three named Brobst at birth. (Actually, they had one other daughter Anna Marie Probst born in France who died as an infant.)
I would be happy to explain all this further to anyone who wishes. Or you can contact Art Holmes, the present Curator of the Brobst Family Historical Registry: Arthur W. Holmes, Curator, National Brobst/Probst Family Historical Registry 304 Woodridge Dr, Peninsula, OH 44264 holmesaw@yahoo.com
All of this is explained in great detail in the book "The Brobst Chronicles".

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor, “The Brobst Chronicles”
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068
Brobst-Hager@mindspring.com
Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~brobst/

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

brobst — 2007-06-13 14:47:41Z

April, thanks for your comments. All quite valid. My intention was to record in the data base the birth name, whether it be Probst or Brobst. If the subject changed the spelling of the name from Probst to Brobst before he married, then I probably showed his children as Brobst also. But some of them didn't change until after they were married, and some of their earliest children were recorded in the church records as Probst, and the later ones as Brobst. That's the way I recorded them in the data base. I made no arbitrary changes on my own volition. And, yes, some birth records differ. In one place it is shown as Brobst, others as Probst. I went by the best information I had at the time, and I'm pretty sure Art Holmes does the same now that he is maintaining the data base.

In "The Brobst Chronicles", I identified the family members pretty much by the names they actually went by in their adult lives. Again, records differ, and I went by the most reliable ones I could find.

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor
The Brobst Chronicles
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068 Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~brobst/

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

brobst — 2008-02-23 22:58:18Z

I have done extensive research on the Probsts on my side of the family, but not much on the ones who settled in Swissdale, Clinton Co, PA. I got some info from the various ships' lists, a lot of info from others who did research those families, and some from the internet. If you will go to the Rootsweb address below, and look up some of those Probsts, you will find the names of some of the researchers who gave me info. Start with Johann Jacob Probst b 1772 who married Maria Laubscher.

That's the best I can do. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor, The Brobst Chronicles
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068 Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~brobst/

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

brobst — 2008-02-27 20:17:34Z

Those immigrants named John back in the 1700s and early-to mid-1800s who came from Switzerland would have been shown as Johannes if they had come from one of the Germanic areas of Switzerland, and Jean if they had come from one of the French areas of Switzerland. My own ancestor, Jean Michel Probst, came from Alsace, France, with some of his German cousins who lived just across the border in Kandel, Germany. In America, he quickly became Johann Michael Probst because he was living in a German area, not a French one. Caused some confusion of names early on in genealogical research.

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor, The Brobst Chronicles
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068 Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~brobst/

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

brobst — 2008-02-25 16:09:19Z

There were five different Probst families who immigrated from Finsterhaven to PA in the mid-1800s, all about the same time. One, or perhaps two of them, settled in Swissdale, Clinton Co, and the others settled in the area of Williamsport, PA.

Bill

New E-Mail address

brobst — 2008-05-06 14:52:51Z

My old Brobst-Hager@mindspring.com e-mail address is gone. I have a new one, shown below.

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor, The Brobst Chronicles
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068 Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~brobst/

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

BOBVOLL — 2008-04-23 10:30:04Z

This is about Kentucky Brobst/Probst: My ggrandfather John Brobst ~1807-aft.1880 apparently used both Brobst as well as Probst surnames during his adult life. I've located his wife's as well as his first son's graves. John's first son, Jacob Brobst 1840-1862 was born in Ky and buried as a Brobst. He may be the only American Brobst not in William Brobst's line. John's wife Margaretha A. Osborne Brobst 1822-1867 was also buried as a Brobst, but John is listed in the 1860 Census as a Probst. John was most likely buried as a Probst since his later sons were buried as Probst but his grave has not yet been located. John repeatedly stated in the U.S. Census that he was from Bavaria. If John had not stated he was from Bavaria but from Pennsylvania this may be much simpler. Joseph Frank Probst was named Brobst for awhile too according to U.S. Census data. Its also possible that Jacob Probst, 1810-1861 may have also been named Brobst but he was actually buried as a Propst! bob voll

KENTUCKY PROBST/BROBST, JOHN 1807, JACOB PROBST 1810, JACOB BROBST 1840

BOBVOLL — 2008-04-06 04:23:48Z

John Brobst b.~1807 who lived in Ky was my ggrandfather. I found his wife Margaretha Osborne Brobst and son Jacob Brobst 1840-1862 gravestones but have not yet found John. His five other children all died well after 1861 and were buried as Probst. It is likely that John was also buried as a Probst (he shows up in 1880 Census as Probst). His name when he married and for many years afterward was Brobst. All these Brobst/Probst were buried in Ky as far as we know.

In reviewing Probst/Brobst records I reread the following valuable narratives written by Bill Brobst and have a few questions:

“Probsts Across the Atlantic:
Following the example of other Alsatian families, some of the Alsatian Probsts left their native soil to emigrate to the United States, hoping to find a better life. Thus, Joseph Probst (~31 years old rwv), born on October 20, 1812 in Rouffach, made his request for a passport in the year 1843 for the destination of the land of Thomas Jefferson. [Note: Jefferson had a few decades earlier been the envoy to France, and was well respected there.] The same year (1843, rwv), Jean Probst, then 18 years old (b.~1825 rwv) and a farmer, left Rouffach for the State of Kentucky. (Other Probsts also emigrated to America in the mid-1800s and settled in Kentucky, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.)” This quote is from Probsts Families of Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France Translation by Bill Brobst July 4, 1999 (Published with the permission of the CDHF) This information was found on the world wide web in the URL, published by the Archives Departementales du Haut-Rhin.

1. Does anyone have specific information on hand regarding those immigrants to Ky mentioned above that they would care to share? i.e. What were their names, when and in what part of Ky did they settle?

From Bill Brobst:

“The American Brobst family traces back into the 1500's near Bern, Switzerland, where Rudolph Probst was born in 1595. His father may have been Niklaus Probst b. 1554, and his grandfather Hans Probst b. 1531, although those two earlier generations are not certain, Yes, the name "Brobst" was originally "Probst." Propst means 'Main Pastor.'

Others of the larger Probst family lived in northwestern Switzerland also, from Siselen in the northwest of Kanton Berne to Lutzelfluh in the northeastern part of Kanton Berne. Many of these Probsts also emigrated elsewhere in Europe -- into Germany and into southern Alsace, France. Some of those who moved to southern Germany had moved further north into Saxony by the 1800s. (Note: John Frederick Probst, b. 13 Aug 1824 in Hanover, Germany came to America and attended Gettysburg Seminary.) Many Probsts came to America from Switzerland, Germany, and France later in the 1700s and 1800s. These families are not the primary focus of the Brobst Family Historical Registry, although there is some information on the other American Probst.

In the early 1600's , Rudolph moved to Wangen, Germany. In the mid-1600's, his only son, Barthel, floated down the Rhine to Kandel, in the German Palatinate, near the border of Alsace, France. Barthel had a large family, one of which was Christophel b.1661. Because living conditions there were so deplorable, three of Christopher's children came to America -- Philipp Jacob b.1692, Johann Michael b.1701, and Elizabetha Margaretha (Vossellmann) b.1703. These three were the first Probst's to come to America. They arrived in 1732, the year George Washington was born.

The three children of Christophel Probst arrived in Philadelphia in October 1732, after a horrible voyage on the ship "John and William." Philipp Jacob came with his wife, C'erine, and three young sons -- Jean Michael, Jean Valentine, and Jean Martin. Johann Michael was unmarried, but married Anna Marie Kerr shortly after his arrival. Elisabetha Margaretha came with her husband, Hans Erhardt Vossellmann. The English-speaking clerk misspelled their name phonetically as had the ship's captain. The Brobst then settled in the area now known as Berks and Lehigh Counties, PA, about 50 miles northwest of Philadelphia. All American Brobst descended from one of those three children of Christophel.”

2. My ggrandfather was John Brobst, born in Germany, but his son Jacob Brobst was born in Ky, thus Jacob was an American Brobst not descended from the children of Christophel.

Recall the mystery of the three brothers Probst who emmigrated from Germany/France ostensibly to avoid military service? I wish I knew the source of this information?? Are we just guessing here? These brothers were (perhaps) John b.~1807, Jacob b.~1810, and Joseph Frank b.1818. Joseph Frank immigrated in 1852 and his family's stated destination was Louisville, Ky. Joseph Frank was listed as a Brobst in the 1860 Census while John and Jacob were both listed as Probst. (This in itself is a bit strange since John's son Jacob b.1840 was buried after 1860 as a Brobst and John's wife was buried even later as a Brobst.) Jacob b.1810 was listed in the 1850 Census in Ky. as a Probst and this goes along with what has been stated before, that Joseph Frank arrived in the U.S. after John and Jacob. We still haven't figured out why Jacob 1810 was buried as a Propst. In any case the confusion would be partially cleared if we could find the parents of these folks.

William Brobst notes:

“On the other hand, the records of Mark. W. Thomas, well documented, show that they (Jacob Probst 1810 and Antonia Kraft, rwv) were married in Jefferson Co, Kentucky, in 1849. Their Kentucky marriage is well documented in "Jefferson County, Kentucky, Marriage Book V, Part I", pp 20 and 34. So they must have come to America prior to 1849. If so, could he have been the son of Johann Jacob Probst, b abt 1774, who came to America in 1832 with his wife Maria, b abt 1883 (should be 1783. rwv), and eleven children, one of which was Jacob age 21, therefore born abt 1811?”

3. Does someone have the name of the ship that Johann Jacob Probst, b abt 1774 came over on? I haven't been able to turn that up yet. This is important since the list of passengers may implicate Jacob b.~1810, who married Antonia, as relative of John b.~1807 both ending up in Jefferson County, Ky in the 1800's. If you also have the list of passengers that would be most helpful. bob voll

(Already posted on the Brobst message board)

Need Ship List 1832, Probst Family, 11 Children

BOBVOLL — 2008-04-04 07:40:10Z

"Johann Jacob Probst, b abt 1774, came to America in 1832 with his wife Maria, b abt 1783, and eleven children." I got this information second hand from a trusted source but the ship they came on and port is unknown at this time and the list of names is missing. Does anyone have a copy of the list and any other information they can post? thx a bunch, bob voll

Re: Need Ship List 1832, Probst Family, 11 Children

BOBVOLL — 2008-04-09 10:12:16Z

If you're going to make a mistake why not make it on the World Wide Web where everyone can see it? In my last message I attempted to calculate the ages of some of the ship's passengers and misread the m for months instead of for gender. Here is a correction. This is the second mistake I've made this month!

Need Ship List 1832, Probst Family, 11 Children
Replies: 2
Re: Need Ship List 1832, Probst Family, 11 Children New
BOBVOLL (View posts) Posted: 9 Apr 2008 3:54AM
Classification: Query
Surnames: PROBST,BROBST,KRAFT,PROPST,VOLL
Your 1833 ship certainly has a passel of Probst folks, alright. Here they are listed with some of the approximate birth years:

PROBST, Johann 32 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1801, rwv)
Anna 23 f
Jean 1-1/2 (b~1831, rwv)

PROBST, Johann 61 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1772, rwv)
Maria 46 f
Catharine 20 f
Jacob 18 m (b~1831, rwv) (mistake! Should be b~1815 rwv)
Maria 10 f
Elisa 6 f
Benoit 3 m

PROBST, Jean 28 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1805, rwv)
Elisa 12 f
Magdalena 11 f
Johann 8 m (b~1832, rwv) (mistake! Should be b~1825 rwv)

PROBST, Jean 26 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1807, rwv)
Anna 24 f
Abraham 4 m
Johan 3 m (b~ 5/1833, rwv) (mistake! Should be b~1830 rwv)
Frederick 1 m

The following are the Probst/Brobst folks I'm looking at in Ky:

Jacob b.~1810, who married Antonia, alleged to be a brother of John b.~1807. We found Jacob's grave and he was buried as a Propst in Ky. John't wife and son were both buried as Brobst but John is listed as Probst nearly 20 years later in the 1880 Census.

There are a couple of good candidates on this ship for John b~1807 but none for Jacob b~1810

I'm still hoping for a ship full of Probst folks from 1832, if Bill Brobst is correct but its unlikely there would be another like the one you found. Thank you for sending this information. Do you know if the John Probst's b~1805 and ~1807 burial plots have been accounted for? thx, bob voll

Re: Need Ship List 1832, Probst Family, 11 Children

BOBVOLL — 2008-04-09 07:54:39Z

Your 1833 ship certainly has a passel of Probst folks, alright. Here they are listed with some of the approximate birth years:

PROBST, Johann 32 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1801, rwv)
Anna 23 f
Jean 1-1/2 (b~1831, rwv)

PROBST, Johann 61 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1772, rwv)
Maria 46 f
Catharine 20 f
Jacob 18 m (b~1831, rwv)
Maria 10 f
Elisa 6 f
Benoit 3 m

PROBST, Jean 28 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1805, rwv)
Elisa 12 f
Magdalena 11 f
Johann 8 m (b~1832, rwv)

PROBST, Jean 26 m farmer Swiss Pennsylvania (b~1807, rwv)
Anna 24 f
Abraham 4 m
Johan 3 m (b~ 5/1833, rwv)
Frederick 1 m

The following are the Probst/Brobst folks I'm looking at in Ky:

Jacob b.~1810, who married Antonia, alleged to be a brother of John b.~1807. We found Jacob's grave and he was buried as a Propst in Ky. John't wife and son were both buried as Brobst but John is listed as Probst nearly 20 years later in the 1880 Census.

There are a couple of good candidates on this ship for John b~1807 but none for Jacob b~1810

I'm still hoping for a ship full of Probst folks from 1832, if Bill Brobst is correct but its unlikely there would be another like the one you found. Thank you for sending this information. Do you know if the John Probst's b~1805 and ~1807 burial plots have been accounted for? thx, bob voll

Re: probst

dpankey54 — 2008-09-14 00:53:24Z

That would be great if you could do that for me.
d_pankey@hotmail.com

thanks alot
Donna McAlister Royston

Sophia Probst

new1vpopssis3n3uq9scpv714tkt9bof — 2008-05-28 15:38:35Z

I am trying to find out the maiden name of Sophia Probst b 1858 in Germany and died in Summit County April 3, 1929. She had lived in Pennsylvania many years with husband Christian who was a coal miner and had 3 children, Christian, Sophia and Joseph. She was demented as noted in her childrens' marriage records and I cannot find an obituary. Her death records show no parent names. Thank you in advance.

Looking for info on Alonso Propst m. Stella Iris Shrout

scsunlimited — 2008-04-23 15:12:55Z

The info I have is Alonso Propst (1883-1914) m. Stella Iris Shrout (1890-1945), homesteaded in Parsons, WV. Had 1 child, Mahlon H. Propst (1909-1996). Mahlon was married to Alice, and was my grandmother Dora Dale Burkey's half-brother. Would like to share info with any other relatives from this line.
Thanks, Candy

Anna Mae Probst, 92, Born in Booneville,1916, daughter of Isaac Home and Edna Mae Hartman Karstetter.

KENNELLYMARKA — 2008-05-21 02:22:47Z

Anna M. Probst

Anna Mae Probst, 92,
formerly of 334 W. Church St., Lock Haven, passed away at the Susque-View Home on May 18, 2008.

Born in Booneville on Jan. 29, 1916, she was the daughter of the late Isaac Home and Edna Mae Hartman Karstetter.

Anna was preceded in death by her first husband, Howard Lester Goodman,"
and her second husband, Kenneth Armstrong Probst,"
and three children, Allen
and Dennis Probst
and a daughter, Karen J. Kulak.

She attended Sugar Valley schools and worked at the Carey McFalls in Montoursville,
also Piper Aircraft in Lock Haven, and at the Woolworth’s Five and Dime Store in Lock Haven.

Mrs. Probst was a member of the First Baptist Church of Lock Haven and enjoyed teaching Sunday School. Her hobbies were selling Avon, crocheting, taking walks and solving The Express cryptoquote.

She was also preceded in death by two sisters, Myrtle and Mabel, and three brothers, Richard
and twins Clarence and Torrence.

Survivors include three sons, Jack and his wife, Janice Goodman of Williamsport,
Daryl G. and his wife, Becky Probst of Lock Haven;
and Gary K. and his wife Linda Probst of Lock Haven;
seven grandchildren, Keith, Todd, Joshua, Zack, Chris, Elizabeth and Matt.

Funeral services for Anna M. Probst
will be held on Wednesday, May 21, 2008,
at 11 a.m. at the Yost-Gedon Funeral Home, 121 W. Main St., Lock Haven, with lay minister William Felmlee of the First Baptist Church, officiating. Interment will be in Booneville Evangelical Cemetery.

Family and friends will be received in the funeral home Wednesday from 9 a.m. until the time of service.

Memorials will be accepted to the First Baptist Church through the funeral home. Arrangements are under the direction of the Yost-Gedon Funeral Home.

First Baptist Church of Lock Haven PA,"
REV, William Felmlee"

Re: Robert Probst from Kentucky

baprobst — 2008-02-19 18:08:25Z

Hi! I have Probst family in Louisville KY, also. Not sure if we are related. I descend from Sebastian Probst. Anyway, I'm curious about the "family cemetery" in Louisville ... where is it? Thanks,Betty baprobst@hotmail.com

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

BrobstHager1 — 2008-04-23 14:34:53Z

Bob, I'll take a look at this, but perhaps Art Holmes would be better suited to try to sort all this out, along with your requests for the 1832 ship's lists.

Bill

William A. Brobst, Editor
The Brobst Chronicles, 2006,
6072 Currituck Road, Kitty Hawk, NC 27949
252-261-3068 Brobst-Hager@embarqmail.com
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=brobst

Re: Probst/Brobst Confusion

AprilSlipsager — 2007-05-21 19:59:58Z

Hello Bill!

I am familiar with your research and have read through your website many times. I also spoke (via email) with Art Holmes.

My ancestry is traced back to Johann Michael Probst, son of Christophel. Strangely enough, the surname Probst has been kept all the way down to my father with only one exception "mid-lineage".

I felt disheartened to continually find my recent ancestors listed as "Brobst" in your files, particularly because I know that many Probst/Brobst researchers rely heavily upon your records as it is clear much effort and research of primary sources had been done.

I provided Art with as much information as I could and he was a wonderful help -- he was very interested in researching this line because he noted as you did, that the retention of the Probst surname this far down the line is uncommon.

While I understand your desire to keep records as accurate as possible (I thank you for this and have much respect for your research!!) it seems that on occasion, when a choice is given between Probst/Brobst -- Brobst is chosen.

I have found many records of births and baptisms recording the individuals as Probst, yet they are listed as Brobst in the Chronicals (my own family can be used as an example, but they were not the only ones).

Another bit of confusion would be cases like Matthias George Probst. He is one of my Revolutionary Veterans (I'm a member of DAR; my other direct ancestor is from my mother's lineage). Matthias is recorded on birth records, property records, inside of at least 4 books, and on the birth records of his children as "Probst" however, his headstone very clearly reads Brobst and he is listed with the DAR as Brobst.

It makes researching confusing at best, though I do understand the basis of the interchangeable P & B :)

What I have done, personally, is this:

I will find an individual born as Probst and note that his offspring are listed as Brobst, assuming that this is a generation that chose the latter spelling, I make an effort to locate their birth records -- which are not always available. I also try to order estate records, wills, death certificates, etc -- any original document I can locate. Occasionally it turns up that the individual was never a Brost at all -- in many cases, he was and it is indicated on said documents. I have found the very same person recorded as BOTH sometimes... our family was most definately struggling for a permanent name and like you mentioned, I am certain kinship and unity played a role.

I do not intend to disrespect or refute your research, I only urge you to not be quick to name us all Brobst... in some cases, the name Probst was retained, even in the Christophel lineage; it might be uncommon, but it does happen.

Again... I do not intend any disrespect and would like you to know that I deeply appreciate all of the research and work that you have done.

April (Probst) Slipsager

Probst, Iseli, Blattner

Mastiff70 — 2007-07-24 03:02:04Z

Does anyone have any information on a Peter Probst, his wife Elesabeth Iseli, their son John Rudolph Probst or his wife Suzanna Blattner or their children Ferdinan, John and Emma? The family began in Bern Switzerland and ended up in Cleveland Ohio.

Re: Probst/WV/OH - Can anyone ID these photos?

ChristineMcLean99 — 2007-09-22 20:36:58Z

Just saw this last night and was surprised to see a likeness to a Susan Probst that I know. Probst being her maiden name and her brother is John Michael Probst - how's that for similarities?
John is my son-in-law.
Christine McLean

Re: Probst/WV/OH - Can anyone ID these photos?

ChristineMcLean99 — 2007-09-22 20:41:30Z

I tried to print off the young womans' picture but the older lady kept printing. I want to give a copy of it to Susans' parents to see what they think. Her parents are in their 80's and one is in nursing care at this time.
C.McLean

Re: Probst/WV/OH - Can anyone ID these photos?

ChristineMcLean99 — 2008-01-20 23:53:11Z

The young girl looks very much like Susan Probst Frank but I've been unable to print her picture. The older woman prints every time I try to get the younger girl. Susan is a sister-in-law to one of my daughters. I wish I could copy her picture to send to Susan ( don't know her e-mail address). I can at least get a mailing address for her. If you e-mail me back with your e-mail address, I'll write to her and see if she is interested in looking at the picture.
Christine McLean
crisbiss_8@hotmail.com

Re: Propst/Deecke: Pennsylvania

560driver — 2008-01-12 21:03:26Z

Hello,

Curious if you where successful finding decendents of Peter and Anna Propst.

Thanks