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William Quail

helenecioppa — 2009-08-02 15:45:25Z

I am looking for a William Quail born in 1840 in Maryland. I believe he married Annie Alexander and they had three children: Ula Zue Quail born 1876, Lyle Quail, born abt 1876 and Vere de Vere Quail, born 1878, who married Katie Wills Briggs in 1898. Does anyone have any information on this "William Quail". Thanks

Gerald Quail/Quayle b.1930 German Flatts, Herkimer, NY

knquail — 2008-12-22 17:13:00Z

Hello, I would love to get in touch with relatives of Gerald Quail/Quayle, who was born about 1930 in German Flatts, Herkimer, NY. Gerald is/was (not sure if he is living or not) the son of Harry and Jennie Quail/Quayle. Harry Quail/Quayle was the son of James Quail and Elizabeth Perkins, though James died when Harry was quite young and Elizabeth then married James' brother, William. James and William were the children of Robert Quail and Lydia Elizabeth Van Nort.

My father, Lauren Quail, b. 1953, remembers meeting a Jerry Quail/Quayle at the Herkimer County Fair when he was a kid...Jerry was probably a son of Gerald. I would love to get in touch with Gerald or his descendents, especially any living in the Herkimer County area as I have never had any contacts with any relatives I may have around here.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-09-17 01:08:38Z

Funny you should say that, I'm looking for a Grace too. Grace E. Keech, who married my Robert's son, Daniel Quail. Having quite some trouble finding her until the 1930 census, after she married Daniel. My best chance for finding info on her at home with her parents would have been 1890...and unfortunately a good part of the census records for that year were destroyed in a fire.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

shenthus — 2008-09-16 13:09:19Z

well atleast I have someting. I found a reference to Grace Quail in the New Brusnwick census of 1851, a widow and listed as scotch.

You have no idea how frustrated I am getting with this, can't find any reference to my family othetr than that one for Grace. Such a rare name and so hard to find anything.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-09-05 15:37:48Z

Oh yes, I'm sure there's a common ancestor somewhere! I'm just not having any luck getting beyond Robert coming here in 1837. I know he was English, not Manx like your ancestor, but let's face it...England and IoM aren't all that far away! There probably is a connection somewhere along te line, and if I get back any farther I'll be sure to keep you updated.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

shenthus — 2008-09-05 01:58:25Z

Yeah well we are having the same problem. My GGGrand father sailed over here around 1845 or so from Canada but we can't get back any further than that.

Melbourne, where I live, was only founded in 1835 so we go back a long way out here comparatively. His family originally came from the Isle of Man, he was a master mariner and his father, John, was a shipwright his mothers name was Grace,but thats about all we know. No Idea of family, brothers or sisters nothing.

I find it hard to believe that a name is unique as Quail, everyone bearing that name isn't related in some way, especially when you go back to the 1850's and the much smaller population. I do know it is an old Celtish name but thats about it.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-09-04 03:41:33Z

Oh, my family hasn't been in the US that long. Great great grandfather Robert came over in 1867. I have yet to find out why, though, and I'm not having any luck uncovering who his parents are or anything else about him.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

shenthus — 2008-09-04 01:31:52Z

Hi
there are a few here in Victoria Australia all from the one man who sailed out here from Canada. There are others in other states too but I am not sure how they fit in.

It is interesting that we have the same name isn't it. I am Robert Ray Quail named after my Great Grand Father.

Of course our Quails could have been loyalist who sailed over to New Brunswick after the American Revolution common I believe, and your family could have been the ones that stayed in the US. Don't know how I would find out tho and as we are so far away from Canada it makes it even more difficult.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-09-03 17:57:49Z

I honestly don't know how common the Quails are in the US. Until recently I only knew 4 Quails besides my parents, siblings, and myself...and that was my aunt, uncle and 2 cousins. I know it isn't common in my area, but I can't speak for the rest of the country.

Re: Quail in Australia

shenthus — 2008-09-03 12:35:27Z

Hi
victoria here, Gloria is my sister.
email me rquail@westsidecomp.com love to exchange information

Rob

Re: Quail Family

shenthus — 2008-09-03 12:25:41Z

Hi Lea
Helen and Gloria are my sisters. I live in Melbourne and am involved in the family research as well.
my email is rquail@westsidecomp.com if you would like to correspond, I know I would and have lots of information for you.

Robert Quail

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

shenthus — 2008-09-03 12:22:03Z

Is Quail a common name in the US?

I am Robert Quail from Australia and have traced my ancestor back to New Brunswick in Canada in the 1840's but I don't think he relates to your Quails, just good to see someone else with my surname. He was a Master Mariner who sailed to Australia.

Re: Leonard G. Quail?

knquail — 2008-08-26 06:03:27Z

I forgot to mention a few things...
Lydia's maiden name is Van Nort
Lydia was likely married to a Parker before she married Robert Quail, though I do not know the man's first name. They apparently had 2 children: Lucinda B. Parker and Clara B. Parker. According to one census listing, Lydia had 11 children, though I can only find proof (via birth, death records and census listings) of the Parker girls and 7 Quail children: William, James R., Cora, Mame, Daniel, David, and Edward. So it is possible that Leonard was one of the 2 children that are unaccounted for.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-26 04:29:48Z

Nora,

Sorry it's been so long since I've posted...the research is going very slowly, and is certainly not being helped by the grouch at the town hall. BUT...today I found my grandfather's birth certificate (odd...he was born 1916 but it wasn't filed til 1940...I'm wondering if he needed it on file in order to join the military) and it does indeed list Grace E. Keech as the mother of James Daniel Quail. It says she was born in Fort Ann, NY. I know it isn't much to go on and I wish I had more information to give you, but maybe we can find something from that.

Kristin

Leonard G. Quail?

knquail — 2008-08-26 04:04:36Z

Anyone have any info on a Leonard G. Quail? I was researching some land deeds at the Herkimer County offices and learned that my great great grandmother, Lydia E. Quail, sold some land in Frankfort, Herkimer County, New York, to a Leonard G. Quail. As far as I can tell, Lydia and her husband, Robert Quail, had no children named Leonard, but they did have a grandson named George. I'm wondering if my George is actually Leonard G. and just went by George, or if Leonard is the son of another of Lydia and Robert's children. There are really no other Quails in the area so I'm almost positive it has to be a relative. Any info is appreciated.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-14 02:18:05Z

thank you so much for all that info. I will check it all out, both online and at the town hall. I had no idea that either Lydia or Robert had been married previously or that she had 2 children from that marriage.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-14 00:03:47Z

Just to clarify something I said in my previous message- Lydia Van ort/Van Nort who married Robert Quail or Quayle stated on 2 census's that she had given birth to eleven children total, but by 1900-1910 only six were living.

Of these six I can only identify sons William Quail who died about 1942, Daniel Quail who died about 1946, David Quail who was alive in 1910, and Edward Harry Quail who was alive in Iowa in 1925 in Waterloo, Black Hawk County, Iowa, so there were two living Quail (or Parker) offspring somewhere who belong to (Robert and) Lydia.

Does anyone have a Quail (or Parker) ancestor born at Frankfort, Herkimer County, New York between 1865 and 1890 who might fit?

Thanks from Nora

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-13 20:50:50Z

Kristin the boards were down all morning otherwise I would have posted this sooner.

It sounds as if you have done a fair bit of research already so I apologize if I post things you already know.

You were mentioning you wanted some confirmation of the maiden name of Lydia E. wife of Robert Quail- she does appear as Lydia E. on the 1910 census I think....and I found their son Edward on the 1925 state census for Iowa- on which, bless these people, you had to give the maiden name of your mother, and it is listed as Elizabeth Van Ort. His wife Frances also lists names of her parents as John W. Sly and Margaret and I can't read her maiden name but I am positive it is on Ancestry somewhere, listed by someone who was researching Sly surname.

Now back to Lydia- I knew that she and Robert Quail did not get married until probably about 1870 or 1871 (he emigrated in 1867) so I went looking for her or them together in Frankfort in 1870- and surprise, surprise....it looks like she had been married to a Mr. Parker previously and had two small daughters- Lucinda Parker born about 1865, and Clara Parker born about 1867. I can't find these girls on the 1880 census however, so I wonder if they are two of Lydia's "eleven" total children who died. Did you know she was previously married? I wonder if her husband was killed in the Civil War.

A gal named Paula has the Van Nort or Van Ort family listed with Lydia being married to a Mr. Parker with her sister Julia Ann married to Robert Quayle. Now...I won't rule that union out yet, until I find more info about Julia Ann. Maybe Robert and Lydia had each been prev. married and with spouses both deceased, decided to get married?

On the 1860 census for Frankfort Lydia and family very clearly recorded with surname Vanorder- are they one and the same (surname)?

On that 1870 census at Frankfort, in home of Edward and Lucinda Van Ort/Van Nort/Vanorder is a 32 year old Robert Crail- the surname is very clearly CRAIL, and also says he was born NYS, BUT I am willing to bet this is Robert Quail, newly arrived from overseas.

Nora

Catharine C. Quail, Butler Co., PA

2006-01-09 14:55:13Z

I am looking for Catharine's parents. She was born in Pa. abt 1889, married Harold Micheal STEPP in 1916 in the area of Butler Co., Pa.

Re: Miles J. Quail ( 1878-1934) and Bridget Mary Doherty

2006-01-09 14:54:45Z

Happy New Year

I have no new leads on my grandfather, however another Quail, Mary Quail who died after one year after her birth is burried in woburn . She must have had an illness and was transferred to a boston hospital, because a boston newspaper was the only source of her obit, still following that lead.

I plan to acquire additional information on all the quails buried in woburn. there are only 2 locations and i now have one of the deeds and should be able to figure out who else is burried there.

Most of the places I need to obtain my information from (ie vital statistics office) are not open, when i have the time to research their databases. hope to have a dayoff soon to perform those serches.

will update
thanks tom

Miles J. Quail ( 1878-1934) and Bridget Mary Doherty

2006-01-09 14:54:02Z

8/29/2003

Paula,

I am Myles Thomas Quail (1953) son of Myles T. Quail (1918-1984) and Adelaide P. (Galleni) (1918-2002). My father’s parents, my grandfather and grandmother were My(i)les J. ( 1878-1934) and Bridget Mary (Doherty) (1873-1963). My father siblings confirmed were William J. (1917-1941), Walter J. (1911-1952) and Mary F. (Frotten) (?- 2001). I am still trying to confirm who is Margaret (1913-1914) and William (1908-1908), from the cemetery plot of where they and my father are buried.

As recently as last month I located documents that confirm that my father (Born in Woburn) and grandfather (Born in Woburn or Ireland) were born under the name of Miles. My father when he was married in 1950 used the name of Myles. Currently it is unclear of when the name was changed, however both the grave markers are listed as Myles, that’s how little we knew all these years. Last month I was in New York and checked the Ellis Island records. I was unable to find confirmatory documentation on my grandfather coming over here from Ireland. I now have a strong suspicion that my grandfather was born in the US (maybe Boston or Woburn) and not in Ireland. I plan to check this out shortly. I ‘m pretty sure his father (my Great grandfather) was a My(i)les and immigrated from Ireland who may be your Bridget’s brother. I am in the process of locating the birth certificates of my grandfather and hopefully my great-grandfather which should confirm my suspicion. Hope this helps out a little. Tom

Re: Bridget Quail m. John Quigley

2006-01-09 14:52:43Z

received message
i believe i can be of assistance. my grandmother was bridget quail from woburn. i was born and grew up in woburn and have information you could use. I will be in touch shortly thanks tom q

Donald Quail and Howard Quail

2005-06-14 11:38:09Z

I have a Grandfather and a Great Uncle by the names of Donald Quail & Howard Quail. Don resides in BC Canada., And Howard was last known to reside in Orilla Ontario Canada. I have never met either. However my Step Grandfather is William Owens, and due to a Catholic political situation My father Michael Donald William Owens adopted the Owens surname, and I am Michael Donald Willam Owens II, brother of Ross Allan James Owens (as far as I know, we are the last male Quails in the tree from Don and Howard due to a sterile situation). My email is owensmichael@home.com and I can gather more information. Perhaps we can trade, because I too am interested in my family history..

Re: James Quail s/o John Thomas Quail

2005-06-14 11:37:47Z

I have a John QUAIL born Bn:1832, Father John (birth date unknown)married Jane Flowers Bn:1838,and came out to Aust settling in Brisbane, Qld. One of their Sons was Thomas Quail bn:21/02/1871
Anyone have connections to these Quails?

Re: James Quail s/o John Thomas Quail

2005-06-14 11:37:26Z

Hi Gloria,

This morning my wife (Joy) and daughers (Caitlin and Alene) caught the tail end of the opening ceremonies. If we wanted the watch the whole thing, it would have meant getting up at 3:30 a.m.. The lighting of the Olympic flame was really quite spectacular. You are right about the Quail's being proper, and if you want to see strong minded women, you should meet my sisters and my cousins. Of course my sisters tell me I am not strong minded, just very determined! That's a polite way of saying I'm a little bit on the stubborn side! It is funny that you should mention photos because I was just thinking it would be interesting to see if there are any family resemblances. I do not have a scanner at at the moment, but hope to get one soon. I may be in the midst of a move and a job change. Thank you so much for your e-mail address. I think it will cut the middle-man (Ancestry.com)and allow us to communicate directly. If I haven't given you my address, it is cquail@greynet.net. I must sign off now, it is almost 11:00 a.m., and I have a lot of work to do today. I hope to hear from you soon. Regards, Charles

Thomas Quail & Mary Doyle

pjmcgovern — 2005-08-02 13:23:33Z

Looking for desendents of Thomas Quail and Mary Doyle from the area of Newtownberry (now Bunclody) County Wexford. They had 3 children that I know of: Myles, Catherine born abt 1820 who married Richard Kelly and Bridget born abt 1829 who married John Quigley. Bridget and her family emigrated to Boston in the 1880's. Bridget died in 1894 in Woburn Mass. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bridget Quail m. John Quigley

pjmcgovern — 2006-01-09 14:52:21Z

Myles: My Quail relative was Bridget Quail who married John Quigley. They lived in Boston until John's death in 1891. Bridget died in 1894 in Woburn. I don't know who she was living with. Bridget's brother was named Myles Quail. I know that his daughter,Bridget Quail, immigrated to the Boston area in May of 1884. I believe another daughter, Kate, came sometime after. In an old family leter from 1906 there is a reference to all the Quails living around Boston. I would be interested in any information you have. I will read thru the letters I have to see if I can find out more.
Jim McGovern

Re: Miles J. Quail ( 1878-1934) and Bridget Mary Doherty

pjmcgovern — 2006-01-09 14:54:35Z

Myles:
We exchanged e-mails a while back on this family. Did you find out more information on your Grandfather? My Bridget Quail Quigley was buried in Woburn. I think there is a connection somewhere.
Hope to hear from you,
Jim McGovern

Re: Miles J. Quail ( 1878-1934) and Bridget Mary Doherty

pjmcgovern — 2006-01-09 14:54:22Z

Thanks for the information. I can't make a connection -yet. Please let me know when you find out more. I will continue working on my end. Jim

catherine hoban /michael quail massachusetts

celestekmiecik — 2008-03-09 12:16:53Z

Looking for any information about michael Quail and catherine Quail(hoban). they lived in clinton massachusetts.Catherine's parents Hannah and Patrick came here about 1861.they had 6 children mary born in ireland ,anthony born massachusetts,james mass., bridget mass., hannah mass.,and my greatgrandmother catherine born also in mass.,michael Quail I think came here by himself in 1891? he was born in ireland. his parents are myles quail and margaret nolan I believe they stayed in ireland or went to enland

michael quail born ireland died clinton, massachusetts

celestekmiecik — 2008-03-06 23:32:45Z

I'm trying to find out what town and county michael Quail was born in ireland. Michael was born around 1873 to Myles Quail and Margaret nolan. I got the information from Michael Quails marriage certficate. he married catherine hoban in 1902. it was her 2th marriage,her first husband died. Michael and catherine had 3 children elizabeth, Myles and joesph Quail. Elizabeth married Patrick kirby in clinton massachusetts they had four children Patrick jr my father ,mary ,joesph and gail. does anyone have any information about where they lived in Ireland.

Re: Quail Family

Lea_Quail — 2007-04-19 09:22:38Z

Helen/Gloria

Can fill you in with lots of information about the Quails in Australia. Your Charles married Catherine Bryan and one of his sons, Leander, was my grandfather. Can you email me outside of the BB and we can help each other I'm sure.

My cousin and I have lots of notes etc plus a family tree for Australian Quails.

Regards

Lea (Leander) Quail

Edward Robert Quail, b. Isle of Man abt 1826

LPramana — 2006-01-09 14:55:53Z

Hi listers, is anyone missing an Edward Robert Quail from their family tree?
He says he was born Isle of Man abt 1826. He says his mother's name was Jane Dorey. He says he was a seaman. I can find no trace of this man until he married Johanna McIntosh in Australia 1856. Can anyone help please.
Many thanks, Lynne

John Quail and Elizabeth Lawson

lilboss126 — 2005-08-01 02:22:19Z

John Quail was the 3rd husband of Elizabeth Lawson (the sister of my g-grandfather, Charles Elsworth Lawson). John's children from a previous marriage were Ada Quail, born abt 1913 in Kansas and Leonard Quail, born in 1911, died April 1986 in Cicero, Illinois.

I have John and Elizabeth in the 1930 census for Galesburg, Knox County, Illinois. He is shown as born in England, immigrated in 1892, occupation was coal miner. I believe John died May, 1964 in Illinois. Elizabeth died in October 1974 in East Galesburg, Illinois.

John and Elizabeth were married after 1916. Elizabeth had children from her previous marriages by the names of Lawson Morton, Lilly Leaf, Charles Leaf, John Leaf, and Anna Leaf.

I would like to hear from anyone connected to this family or with information about John and Elizabeth.

Quail, C. Viola (OBIT MD 7-30-2006)

myobituarysite — 2006-08-11 15:44:49Z

source: The Evening Sun - Hanover, PA 7-30-2006
Deceased: Quail, C. Viola (OBIT MD 7-30-2006)
Age: 85
Last Address: Westminster, MD
Death date: 7-28-2006
Birth date: not listed
Birth place: not listed

No relation to the deceased
For a FREE copy of full obit send email to:
rbenjamin@qis.net
(please include date obit posted)

Quail living in MA pre-1950s

mylesquail — 2006-01-09 14:51:42Z

Looking for any information on Quail previously living in either Woburn or Winchester MA prior to 1950s.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-12 21:58:42Z

This may or may not be your ancestor- Ancestry has image of passenger list for ship "City of Paris" which arrived at New York on October 28, 1867...

Robert Quail age 30 England to USA

Ship departed from Liverpool in England and from Queenstown in Ireland.

On 1900 census Robert did state he emigrated in 1867.

Nora

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-12 17:52:26Z

You are certainly right about Robert Quail being your ancestor. I first read the message you posted on the Keech board about Grace and Daniel- I honestly don't think the Grace who is in Pennsylvania is your ancestor, and I think she was born and grew up right in Herkimer County somewhere. I am very interested in knowing who she was, IF she is a Keech, because I have been researching Keech's in NYS for a long time.

Do you have access to any documents at all which would give you her maiden name? (It may NOT be Keech, but your families may be connected to Keech's somehow).

Any birth records? a marriage record for Grace and Daniel?, married about 1915? What about her death record, or death record for her son James who was born about 1916 which might give maiden name of his mother?

I can't find your Grace and Daniel on the 1920 census- I assume they stayed at Frankfort?

Found them on the 1930 census at Frankfort with spelling "Quayle". Only one son listed, your James.

Exact date of birth for your Daniel W. Quail or Quayle was given as March 30, 1885 when he enlisted in WW One at Herkimer County. Worth going after any military papers or files that may exist for him.

Daniel is listed with his parents Robert and Lydia and another brother (Edward Harry Quail) on the 1900 census at Frankfort- their surname has been mis-transcribed by Ancestry.com as "Lourie" and I can submit a correction for that, unless you want to do it.

Robert Quail is age 62 years, born July 1837 in England, wife Lidy age 55, born January 1845, born NYS as were both parents, although I think on that 1880 census she was listed as having been born in England and both parents England...(NYS is most likely correct for her)....Daniel is listed as age 16 years, born March 1884, brother Edward H. is age 11, born May 1889.

There is a marriage listed for your Edward Harry Quayle or Quail online to Genevive Frances SLY on Feb. 21, 1914 at Rock Island, Illinois, with names of 2 sons for them as Edward Harry Quail Junior born April 17, 1916 in Illinois, and Robert Quail born Aug. 29, 1917 in Iowa. You may be able to contact the woman who posted that info to see if she is a desc. in that line or if she knows someone who is.

On that 1900 census at Frankfort, Robert and Lidy or Lydia were listed as being married 31 years, which puts their date of marriage at about 1869. Robert emigrated from England in 1867. You should be able to find him therefore in 1870 in USA.

On same 1900 census Lydia stated she had given birth to 11 children but that only 6 were still alive- so you will have to hunt for the other children. Possibly William, James and Cora were still living from that 1880 census. They would have been born about 1871, 1874 and 1876 respectively. That leaves one other living sibling to your Daniel.

Hope this info helps you, please keep us posted about Grace's maiden name? If I can help you further please let me know.

Nora in Alberta, Canada

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-13 02:49:02Z

No I am not related, I was just curious about your Grace. Was scrolling through the boards when I saw your messages.

Don't give up on finding info- because the records you want are from later on you will no doubt find some answers. And don't leave any stone unturned- sometimes the answers are found in the strangest places. And I am sure you know about looking for records in as many spellings as possible and Quail could be spelled so many ways (or mis-spelled).

If someone is adamant that you are connected to Keech's, there must be some substance to that. Keep me posted.

Was trying to remember when Daniel and Grace were married...prob. not until about 1916...so you should be able to find her on 1900 and 1910 census. It was recorded that she was born in NYS with both parents born NYS on the 1930 census. I would be very surprised if she didn't come from Frankfort herself, or at least from Herkimer County.

Nora

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-13 01:15:00Z

Libbie or Elizabeth was the daughter of William W. Perkins and his wife Mary Catherine nee Lonas or Lonis. Check Ancestry database for a woman who has put together Lonis family info. The reason I could not find Catherine Perkins and 3 kids in 1880 is that they were recorded as Lonis surname. Look under 1880 Frankfort for Mary Perkins and brother Solomon LONIS.

Found them in 1870 again at Frankfort, Mary Catherine is with her 3 kids and her parents and brother Solomon, no sign of her husband. Perhaps he died prior to the 1870 census.

It is always a roundabout way of collecting info, but if you get stuck one place keep going with relatives and gather everything you can find.

There was a Robinson Keech who lived and died in Herkimer County, no kids that I know of but he had two brothers who did (but not in Herkimer County). No Grace though. Also I see that Gilbert Lehr lived at Frankfort with his with wife Nellie nee GUE, whose mother was a Keech.

Again, if you ever figure out who Grace was, please let me know.

I tried to find a spinster Alice Keech on the census's who would fit to be Grace's sister, with no luck. Do you know anything about Alice? DOB? Where she was on any particular census, say 1900, 1910 or 1920?

Thanks from Nora

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

NoraMcL — 2008-08-13 00:35:47Z

Well this is coming together nicely....

I can't help with the "Ella Hall" puzzle- you are correct in that it may be a mistake.

On the 1910 census at Frankfort I found William Quayle/Quail and wife Elizabeth and positive that I was reading he had been married only once but she twice, and they had only been married 7 years, so that put marriage at about 1902-1903. I guessed then that Harry and Elsie were children from her first marriage but had no idea when I copied this that she had been married to William's brother James Quail!!!!

1910 Frankfort in Herkimer County, NYS:

William Quail 39 born NYS, ditto for wife and kids, md once 7 years
Elizabeth Quail 39 looks like married twice, 4 children 4 alive; md. now 7 years
Harry J Quail 15 (abt. 1895)
Elsie M Quail 11 (abt. 1899)
Robert W Quail 7 (abt. 1903)
George A Quail 3 (abt. 1907)

So now here is the 1900 census info for her; she is living with her mother and a married brother- I have just looked everywhere for them (Perkins) on the 1870 or 1880 census and no luck yet- if you do find them, please let me know?

1900 Frankfort in Herkimer County, NYS:- the surname was mis transcribed as "LENAIL"- again, do you want me to submit the correction?

Libbie Lenail 30 Head WF Born Jan. 1870 Age 30 Widow 2 children/2living Born NY Father NY Mother NY
Harry Lenail 5 Son born April 1895 in NYS Age 5 years
Elsie Lenail 2 Daughter born April 1898 NYS Age 2 years
Catherine Perkins 60 Mother born May 1840 Widow Born NYS Father NYS Mother NYS
Adelbert Perkins 35 Brother age 35 born Jan. 1868 NYS NYS NYS Married
Jane Perkins 34 Sister in law age 34 born Sept. 1865 Md. 12 years NYS NYS NYS

Robert and Lydia are on the 1900 census right at Frankfort in Herkimer County with sons Daniel age 16 and Edward age 11, surname is mis-transcribed on Ancestry.com as "Lourie".

Your Daniel and Grace are on the 1930 census at Frankfort under surname "Quayle".

Nora

Re: James Quail

dhoeffler76 — 2007-06-20 16:02:13Z

I wonder if there is a connection. My ggf, James Quail was born in 1819 in Belfast. Residence was in Downpatrick. He died in 1895 in Greeley, Ontario, Canada. He emmigrated to Cornwall, Ontario in 1836 with his widowed mother and sibs. He married Mary McGovern/MacGovern in 1839 in Corwall, Ontario. They had 6 children. In 1843 he and Mary moved to North Osgood Township and took a Crown Land Grant and built a home. Mary died at about 30-32 years of age and James remarried Anne Bradley, daughter of William Bradley of Goldbourne, Ontario. They had 8 children, one of whom was my grandfather, Thomas Alfred Quail, who was born in 1869 and died in 1905. The farm is still there, outside of Greeley. Most of the Osgood Twp Quails are buried in the cemetary of All Saints Anglican Church in Greeley.

So,
Any ideas?
Dennis

Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-09 02:39:47Z

I am looking for information about Robert Quail, b. ~1836 in England. He immigrated to Frankfort, NY. His wife was Lydia, and they had at least 3 children that I can see...William (b. ~1871), James (b. ~1871, d. Nov. 30, 1898), and Cora (b. ~1876). I am exploring the possibility that he is also the father of my great grandfather, Daniel W. Quail (b. 1884, d. 1946). So far I've been unable to find any birth certificates, census records, etc that support this theory, but he is the only Quail I can find in Frankfort that is the right age to be Daniel's father. If anyone can prove or disprove this relationship, I would be very greatful.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-13 04:31:44Z

Well, my grandfather, James, was born in 1916, so they may have been married a year or two before that. My dad doesn't know (Daniel and Grace both died before my father was born and, like I said, almost no info has been passed on to him) but that at least is something I will almost certainly find at the town hall. I have only been through their earliest books there so far but will go back soon to continue my research.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-12 23:24:19Z

I do not have any documents for Grace thusfar, but I still have work to do at the town hall. IF they were married in Frankfort (as opposed to Litchfield) I should find a marriage record, at the very least, as well as records for my grandfather James.

I did find a death record for James at the town hall. It says he was died Nov. 30, 1898 at age 22, he was a laborer, he was born in Litchfield, his father RObert Quail was born in England, the cause of death was shock produced by injury of the brain, and the place of death and burial was Frankfort. There is one piece of information that puzzles me, though...it lists his mother as Ella Hall of Frankfort. It has to be some sort of mistake, though, because William is older and on his marriage records, Lydia is listed as his mother, and she was definitely the mother of the younger children so it doesn't make sense for him to have a different mother.

A little more info I'm pieced together from the few records I could find...maybe you can confirm it for me. It looks like after James died, his wife Libbie married his brother William.

Where did you find the census records for 1900 and 1930? I have found other ones that list Robert, Lydia and the other children, but Daniel is never listed. I assume that's because they were done either before he was born, or after he moved out of the house. I'd love to see the 1900 and 1930 ones.

One bit of info my dad did find in the county hall (he didn't copy it so I haven't seen it yet, but I will go down there soon to see what else I can find) is land records, showing Robert passed his land down to Daniel, who passed it down to my grandfather, and then when he died my grandmother sold it to someone outside the family.

I wish I could find records for all the Quail children. In the 1900 census, 2 of the deceased children were James and a girl possibly named Mame (could be Marie or something of the like though) who died of scarlet fever. There were 2 other children I found birth records for, born in 1898 and 1902, but no names were given for them. I thought perhaps they died shortly after birth and weren't given names, but there's no record of their deaths so I'm at a loss there.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-12 23:24:00Z

Yes, I have found that New York Passenger List, which states Robert arrived in NY Oct. 28, 1867. The fact that Lydia did not arrive with him certainly supports the belief that she was born here in NY...I don't know any VanNorts from the area, but in the old cemeteries in Frankfort Hill and Litchfield there are loads of them, so I figure she was born there.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-12 22:37:06Z

Thank you for all your information. I agree that the Grace E. Keech I found is questionable. I know that Daniel's wife was Grace E. because their graves are right here in Frankfort. The Keech part we are guessing at right now, because he remembers having a great aunt Alice Keech who never married, whom he and his sister thought was Grace's sister. Alice lived in Glen's Falls, though it's not known if she was born there or not. I have yet to find any records about Daniel at the town hall, though I still have a good number of books to go through there yet. There's no record of his birth, but there may be records of his marriage and death. Sadly, a number of records have probably been lost. From the looks of it, before Robert and family came to Frankfort, they were living in nearby Litchfield. Litchfield is, even now, a very rural area, and doesn't even have a town hall, just one person who keeps what few books there are. We have contacted him and he didn't have any of the info we were looking for and said that is pretty typical for the time period. We are now at the point of searching through every little old cemetery we can find in the area in the hopes of turning something up, but so far no luck. I will keep you posted if we turn anything up on the Quails, Keeches, and VanNorts. (We're fairly certain Lydia was a VanNort, but can't confirm it yet.)

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-13 01:05:17Z

Oh yeah, and William and Libbie married Nov. 18, 1900 and it looks like Libbie's father's name was William.

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-13 00:55:23Z

Nora,

Thanks so much for your help! I would appreciate it if you submitted the names for correction. The misspelling explains why I couldn't find them, as I've been looking on ancestry.com exclusively.

Thanks for giving me the names of William and Elizabeth's (in the Frankfort Town Hall records, she's always listed as Libbie) children. There were two listed without first names, born 1898 and 1902 that I am sure now are Elsie and Robert. You have George's year of birth as about 1907...I can verify it as being June 27, 1905. Also, they had a daughter, Libbie, who was born prematurely and lived only 4 days - May 31 to June 4, 1901.

Yes indeed, Libbie Perkins was married to James Quail. I think Harry and Elsie were his children. It looks like James died when Elsie was about 7 months old...how sad!

Let me know if there are any records you are interested in, and I will see if I can dig them up at the town hall or county offices.

Kristin

P.S. if you'd like to contact me outside this board, my e-mail is knquail@yahoo.com

Re: Robert Quail, Frankfort, NY

knquail — 2008-08-13 01:31:20Z

OK thanks, I will check out those names!

I do not have any info at all on Alice or Grace. Prior to setting out to create a family tree about a week ago, the only family I knew on my father's side was an aunt, an uncle, 2 cousins, and a grandmother who died when I was 10. James Quail died when my father was only 13 and left him with no information about the family, and my father's and aunt's memories of "Aunt Alice" are very vague. No official records to be found anywhere. We may be at a dead end on that branch of the family.

Oh, and are you related to the Quails, or another branch of the family?