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Re: Rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-07-23 18:05:48Z

that will be great.

Re: Rabia

Lura21 — 2007-07-23 16:19:54Z

Wonderful, we need all the help we can get. I hope that someday you will be able to meet Anne and her husband. He works at Nasa. Anne is not practicing Law anymore since the birth of her children and her recovery from Breast Cancer. She has decided to stay home and raise her children and research the family.
I live about 3 miles from the 640 acers of land that was granted to Santiago Rabia. I go over there from time to time and just walk across parts of it. They built and new lake right in the center of the land.
Amanda Alamon is such a mystery, and an anigma to all of us who are searching for her. At one time my grandmother thought she was her mothers mother but then the dates of Mary Florences birth did not match and the census proved otherwise. Mary Florence talked about her brother William Riley and her sisters, and her father, Joseph Rabia/Ravia but my grandmother and my mother can never remember her saying anything about her mother. Strange, but Mom said the older folks would shew the children out of the room when they spoke in low tones about anything that would have explained many of the mysteries we have today about the family. Anne sent Joyce and I copies of some letters that were very informative a little over a year ago. We found out in those letters when Santiago's wife Rebecca died and was buried and that he shd been married to Mr. Theo Wald , her third husband and possibly her 4th we are not sure about that. Theo Wald married Aunt Emm, Rebecca and Santiago's daughter after Rebecca died. My mother new Aunt Emm and Mr. Wald, when she was a girl.Their house burned down and that is why the Alamo has her fathers papers. She gave them to her next door neighbor and he gave them to the Alamo.
Lura. If you want to email me directly you are welcome to. lhyatt2@aol.com

Re: Rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-07-23 15:34:05Z

The one thing in Tishamingo I am looking for is my gggg grandmother Amanda...there is a book Joyce and I are looking for with poss info in it that may give us a lead on Amanda. I have been working with Joyce on my end doing research...As Anne I have good research skills and think out of the box because I am a Paralegal.

Re: Rabia

Lura21 — 2007-07-22 14:33:30Z

Thanks Alice, for the vote of confidence. My Great Grandmother acually started my research before I was born by telling my grandmother a few things about the Spaniard who came from Spain and then became a Texas Ranger. My grandmother was Mary Florence's daughter and one of 14 children. Of course Mary Florence's father was Joseph Ravia who was the son of Santiago Rabia from Spain. Back in the 60's and 70's the research was slow because of the fact that we did not have computers and had to rely on letter writing. But when I got my first computer in 92 things started to open up. Around 2000 I found Anne, Peter Celestine Rabia's ancester. Peter and Joe were brothers. We have been researching together since then. Anne is an attorney and is a real good researcher. Last year we found Joyce and she is real good too so now there are three of us from the same family searching together.
Tishamengo has been researched by all of us very completly and when we started in Tishamingo they had alot of the basic info comfused. My mother went up there and tried to get the basic info to them but I am sure they still have some wrong. There is one place that we are still trying to get to to find the prayer book that belonged to Santiago Rabia from Spain. He wrote notes in the prayer book and we would love to see that. It is in a museum up in the panhandle. I can't remember the name of it off hand, but Anne has that info on the tip of her tounge. I will ask her and then post it. Maybe someone lives up in that area and go by and look at it.
Lura Hyatt
lhyatt2@aol.com

Re: Rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-07-21 17:09:11Z

Laura is on top of our family history. I got most of my info from her and another cuzin Joyce...I have been researching Amanda for a short time thanks to my new family members and she is a tuff one....I am going to try to do some research in Tishamingo soon to see what I can find. These two ladies have spent much time on our family and if you want history and would like to pitch in and research they are the ones to talk to.

Re: Ravia

aliceryder1 — 2007-07-21 16:58:51Z

What do you know about her mother...that is where we are in our research trying to locate gggg grandmother Amanda Almon.

Re: Rabia

Lura21 — 2007-07-21 02:59:28Z

Hi, My name is Lura Hyatt and I am the great great granddaughter of Joseph Rabia/Ravia and Adeline Parrish. Grandpa Joe and Adeline had children by the names of Emily, Amanda, Mary Florence and William Riley. census reports prove that these children lived in their house hold while growing up and my g, grandmother Mary Florence remembered all of them in her house growing up before her death in 1945.
Adeline divorced Joe and he married Molly Moore in 1880. They had no children. She divorced him and he married Lottie Green. A white woman who had at least two children, maybe more. I can't recall their names but I have them written down in my files. Grandpa died in 1916 from Pneumonia after having taken care of Lottie's children through a Small Pox episode. He was immuned. My cousin Anne and I have been reasearching for a very long time and have so many documents to prove all of our findings. In fact we have corresponded with Catherine, William Riley's daughter up until her death last year. We found out a lot from her. Mary Ida is the daughter of Joe and Amanda Almond. We know she and he were married by the rights of the Cherokee tribe but we can't find any records of her. We think she might have been married before she married Joe. If there is something you would like to know please let me know and I will try to help.
Lura Hyatt
lyatt2@aol.com

Re: Rabia

Lura21 — 2007-07-21 02:58:21Z

Hi, My name is Lura Hyatt and I am the great great granddaughter of Joseph Rabia/Ravia and Adeline Parrish. Grandpa Joe and Adeline had children by the names of Emily, Amanda, Mary Florence and William Riley. census reports prove that these children lived in their house hold while growing up and my g,g, grandmother Mary Florence remembered all of them in her house growing up before her death in 1945.
Adeline divorced Joe and he married Molly Moore in 1880. They had no children. She divorced him and he married Lottie Green. A white woman who had at least two children, maybe more. I can't recall their names but I have them written down in my files. Grandpa died in 1916 from Pneumonia after having taken care of Lottie's children through a Small Pox episode. He was immuned. My cousin Anne and I have been reasearching for a very long time and have so many documents to prove all of our findings. In fact we have corresponded with Catherine, William Riley's daughter up until her death last year. We found out a lot from her. Mary Ida is the daughter of Joe and Amanda Almond. We know she and he were married by the rights of the Cherokee tribe but we can't find any records of her. We think she might have been married before she married Joe. If there is something you would like to know please let me know and I will try to help.
Lura Hyatt
lyatt2@aol.com

Re: Ravia

stormy8890 — 2007-07-21 00:46:12Z

i believe she is my ggg great grandma too.

Re: Ravia

aliceryder1 — 2007-07-20 21:24:22Z

Who was Mary Ida's mother? Mary Ida Ravia Harkins is my ggg grandmother.

Re: Rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-07-20 21:10:19Z

Her name was Mary Ida Ravia and she is Joseph Ravia and Amanda Almon's daughter. Mary Ida is my ggg grandmother.

Re: Ravia

stormy8890 — 2007-07-20 19:55:20Z

Hello,
Ida was my grandfathers grandmother. He called her granny Harris. She was prev a Speaks, Harkins, Shelton and Ravia. I would love to share info. Stormy8890@yahoo.com

Re: Rabia

stormy8890 — 2007-07-20 19:27:35Z

Hello Lura,

I'm just trying to find out info on my background. I see you mentioned Molly Moore. I believe she was married to Joseph Ravia, had a son named william Riley. I hope we are talking about the same people.I am trying to find out who Joseph married in Oklahoma on an Indian reservation. I'm also trying to find out information on a lady by the name of Ida Ravia who is supposed to be joseph's daughter. Someone said Ida could have changed her name from Ravia to Harkins,to Shelton to Speaks.I would love any info you have on the Ravia's.
Thank you,
Stormy Macdonald, OKC

Re: Rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-06-18 14:46:51Z

Well, I will get with Joyce and get her info she has and also see what and where she has looked and find out where I need to go next. You spoke of a testimony from the five civilized tribes when you were talking about the Ravia Cemetery. What were you ref. to? I am just trying to find out what and where I need to jump in on my research that has not already been researched. My e-mail is alice_ryder@sbcglobal.net, can we talk this way.

alice

Re: Rabia

Lura21 — 2007-06-18 13:45:25Z

Joyce has been doing the same resarch at the library many times. I think that all has been gone through there. It won't do you any good to check with Christina Kennedy, she seems to be a little illiterate and has gotten most of her info from me. She has been confused about a lot of info. for years and I can't seem to make her understand the connections. However if you want to try, have at it. Tommy Wood is hard headed and still insist that Molly Moore is Mary Frances's mother even though I have sent him absolute proof possitive that it was Adeline. Joyce is your best bet. She works very hard on the research. Let me know if I can help.
Lura

Re: Rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-06-18 02:52:07Z

well this is funny b/c I have been talking to Joyce, I was hoping that I could give her new info...what a small world...I know that there was a posting of a Chritina Kennedy from TommyWood34 and she was also from our line has anyone been able to talk with her? I am going to try to locate the historian of the news papers on US Gen and see if she could check out the new papers to find out about the dedication you spoke about...I may even take a trip to do research at the library in Ravia.

Alice

Re: Rabia

Lura21 — 2007-06-18 02:40:21Z

I am going to put you in tough with Mary Ida's granddaughter, Joyce. She has been in touch with me and my cousin Anne for a long time. She has been research Mary Ida for a very long time and has learned as much as we know about her. What ever you can't learn about this family from her,my cousin Anne and I can fill you in on. But Joyce will be so happy to learn of you. Her email address is jarvisbill@msn.com. Please email me and let me know how you make out with Joyce. I am going to email her and tell her to expect an email from you. Good luck,
Lura

Re: thanks for the reply to ravia/rabia

aliceryder1 — 2007-06-17 23:53:39Z

I noticed that you talked about a Christine Kennedy of Trenton Texas who was from Mary Ida's Line. Do you still know how to reach her...I would like to talk with her and the e-mail address that u listed is no longer a good addr. I guess....Thank you for ur help...I find this to be exhausting and exciting all at the same time.

Re: Virginia Katherine (Kate) Warrick/Wyrick

2003-08-25 21:28:59Z

The page with the picture of Molly is unavailable. Could you please e-mail it to me. I am a decendant of the Ravia's and have photos of others.

Re: Joe Ravia/Rabia

2003-08-23 04:05:08Z

i really need to get in touch with lura hyatt, my great grandmother (ehtyl hawkins speaks) was the daughter to amanda almon or molly moore one. we need records that lura has to prove our kinship to the ravias and hopefully a roll number, if amanda left him the land and she was cherokee and she was the mother to my g granny then we can get our roll number that weve been searching for for 15 yrs. we just cant prove that link cause of circumstances that have happened over the past 100 years. i also heard that jospeh gave the land to the town, thats a story ive heard since i was a kid, im 31 now. and that he had a 100 year lease on it and that theres a contract somewhere but i heard it burned in the courthouse in ravia in late 1800s or early 1900s. anyone who knows lura or can give me info , id appreciate it and ill share all i have w you.

thanks keith smith
atoka oklahoma.

ps, whats the deal again with the mayor in ravia, is he trying gain wealth or something or this, if so someone needs to do something about it, cause thats not right, he has no right and if i prove it and the lease does exist thats theres a 100 yr lease on the town, then we need to get rid of him and take back our town. heheheh jk

Re: Ravia Family

2006-04-23 22:00:23Z

Most likely the names were Maurice (Arise) and Anselmeif they were from France. I am French/American and I do not know of any first French names like the ones in your email. Good luck

Re: Ravia - Netherlands, 1600's

2002-12-29 00:38:28Z

Norm, do you have any further information regarding the family Ravia or de Ravia. If it were Spanish, it should have another name in front as Spanish names normally do not begin with de?

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