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Deborah Reamey Steed (View posts)
Posted: 6 Nov 2003 4:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Reamey, Ramey, Reamy, Remy, Remi
This is a wonderful, well documented and very professional article by a professional genealogist that puts an end to much of the misinformation concerning Elizabeth Reamy Jones (or any of the Henry Co., Virginia Reameys.) The Reamey's of Henry Co., Virginia decend through this Remy line and I believe that Sanford Reamy Sr., Elizabeth Reamy Jones, and Col. Daniel Reamy (all died in Henry Co., VA) were all siblings and the children of this Thomas Reamy who is referred to at the end of this article. Unfortunately, I haven't typed in the whole article but would like to post this much. Thank you, Deborah Reamey Steed

THE REAMEY FAMILY
By
Charles Hughes Hamlin, Professional Genealogist
Richmond, Virginia

The French people, as a nation are an enthusiastic, romantic cheerful and lively race of extroverts. They are also realists with a strong love of the good things of life, and of home and country. They have an abiding ambition to seek out and to attain a better position in life; a love of thrift and orderliness; and a continued desire to make progress.

The French also are noted for their generosity and have a fiery courage in battle, which makes them a redoubtable foe. With this, they face life with the ability to absorb torturous punishment and to suffer martyrdom if necessary.

These are all qualities greatly to be admired and those of us who can boast of a strain of French Huguenot blood can feel justifiably proud of our ancestors.

During the period of the persecutions of the Huguenots (Calvinistic Protestants of France), several hundred thousands of the best educated, most highly skilled and trained artisans of that nation, who were of both noble and middle class origin, were forced to flee to save their lives. This mass escape to England, Holland, Germany and Switzerland and from these countries to the Colonies of the Americas greatly enriched this nation, and contributed substantially to its moral, civic and industrial life.

Jacques Remy de Ivoy, of Picardy, in Lorraine, France, is the original emigrant to Virginia arriving on these shores in 1654 or 1655 as an “Indentured Servant” of Nicholas Spencer, Esquire (d. 1689), who was secretary of state under several Governors in the period 1679-1689 and was President of the Council in 1683.

Jacques Remy eventually took the name of Jacob Ramey in Virginia, probably because of the inability of his American compatriots to pronounce it in the French manner. He was a member of a French family of noble birth and was forced to flee from France in 1650 or 1651, when his father, Pierre Remy, was killed or died.

He escaped to England and some of his brothers reached Alsace, then a part of Germany. It is interesting to note that some of the descendants of the German branch finally reached Pennsylvania almost a hundred years later and were known to some of the members of the Virginia branch.

Jacques Remy I (Jacob) is estimated to have been born in 1630 and reached a ripe old age, his will being probated in Westmoreland County, December 5, 1721. After escaping to England, it is evident that he must have suffered many privations and hardships. To escape these he indentured himself and his young wife for passage to Virginia in the hope of attaining freedom from “want” and of religion.

It has been established by an eminent genealogist in France that Jacques (Jacob) Remy married in France, Françoise, daughter of Antoine Haldat 2nd, Seigneur de Bonnet and his wife, Madeline Marchand. Hotten’s List of Emigrants, Vol. I p. 271, proves that “Fra: (Françoise) Rame to Westmoreland County, Virginia 1654,” was bound to Roger Drayton and evidently did not survive the trip.

The above-cited genealogist in France has established that Jacques (Jacob Remy) was a son of Pierre Remy who was a son of Jacques Remy de Ivoy (1545-1586) and his wife, Magdalene (last name unknown). This Jacques Remy, grandfather of our “Jacob,” the first, was the fourth son of George Remy who was ennobled, 1560, in Lorraine and who had married Beatrix de Rosieries, a descendant of th4e Marquis de Busancy de Rosierres, who died in 1357 and whose estates were still being fought over in law suites almost 200 years later. The above-cited Beatrix was finally adjudged the sole heiress about the time she married George Remy.

George Remy was the son of Didier Remy (ennobled, September 13, 1554) and is stated to be the grandson or great-grandson of Didier Remy de Chalons, sur Marne et Vetry en Porthois, Lorraine, who was very probably the great grandson of Pierre Remy, Treasurer of King Charles IV from 1322 to 1328. An industrious research of the records in France of this noble family could possibly prove the pedigree to great antiquity.

Jacques (Jacob)( Remy, the Huguenot refugee, acquired his first land in Westmoreland Co., Va., on July 21, 1671, which consisted of 400 acres in Cople Parish, in nominee Forest, by a deed of purchase from William Pierce (D. B. 1, p. 401) and , in the same year, married for the second time. His two sons are the progeny of this union.

The wife of Jacob Remy was named Mary (last name unknown) but some historians have claimed that she was a daughter of Nicholas Spencer, the former “master” or “patron” of Jacob; while others state that she was the daughter of Miles Marmaduke. This compiler has seen no actual proof of either of those theories.

There is extant (Westmoreland D & W No. 3, 1701-1707, pp. 93, 94) the Naturalization Papers of Jacob Remy, “A natural born subject of the French King,” in which is shown that he took the Oath of Allegiance on September 29, 1680, before Sir Henry Chicheley, Knt., His Majestie’s Deputy Governor, etc., and the same was recorded, October 8, 1702.

Jacob Ramey I (1630-1721) dated his will in July of 1702 and lived 19 years longer when it was probated, December 5, 1721. His legatees were his “loving wife, Mary…oldest son, William, and youngest son, Jacob,” to whom he left 200 acres of land “being the land I now live on,” etc., (WB 7, p. 254). From these two sons have sprung descendants, which number in the thousands and are settled in almost every State of the Union. The Henry County, Virginia, “Reameys” are descended from the younger son, Jacob Ramey, Junior. Incidentally, it may be well to note here that the name is spelled variously, in Virginia records as “Rame, Ramey, Remy, Remie, Raimy, Raimey, Reamy, and Reamey.”

This family is a notable example of how family tradition and the injudicious inventiveness of irresponsible genealogists, family and county historians, can distort and positively mutilate beyond all recognition the true facts and the true lineage of a family.

We will not cite, in this record, any of the aforesaid distortions of fact and fanciful fiction that have been published concerning this ancient and illustrious family, but offer proof of each and every generation to the present and with abstracts of the original records as the proof.

Issue of Jacques I (Jacob) Ramey, Sr. and his wife, Mary:

I. William Ramey (1672-1737) married Catherine, daughter of Henry and Mary Asbury and had issue: James, Daniel, John, Catherine, Mary, Asbury, Jacob and William. (Westmoreland WB 8-2, p. 543)

II. Jacob Ramey, Jr. (1675-1727) (of whom more later) married, about 1700, Ann, daughter of Robert and Ann Sanford, and which Ann (Sanford) Ramey married 2ndly, before 1735, Richard Omohundro. Her will probated in Loudon County, Virginia, September 13, 1763.


THE FAMILY OF JACOB RAMEY II (JACOB I)

Jacob Ramey, the second, made his first purchase of land in Westmoreland County, May 30, 1699 (D & W 2, p. 186), which consisted of 30 acres bounded on the lands of his father, Jacob Ramey, Sr., Nicholas Spencer, and Thomas Collingsworth. This land was purchased from Edward Ransdell and one of the witnesses was his brother, William. It has been shown that he was later bequeathed 200 acres by his father.

Jacob, Junior, did not long survive his father and his will dated 23rd February 1726-7, was proved the 31st of May 1727. (WB 8, p. 83). He made his loving wife (Ann Sanford) and his son, John, his executors and gave the following legacies:

“To my son, John, all my working tools and my halberd (i. e. a weapon in the form of a battle-axe and pike at the end of a long staff).

“To my son, Jacob, 230 acres of land and the hand mill. If son, Jacob, die without male heirs, then the land to return to my son, Benjamin, for want of a male heir to him, to return to my son, Joseph.

“To my loving son, William, my walking cane, etc.”

Ann Sanford, only wife of Jacob Ramey, Junior, outlived him 36 years, and as Ann Omohundro, made her will in Loudon County on January 2, 1752, which was proved, September 13, 1763 (WBA, p. 94) and in which she stated “Being aged and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory…” and “I leave my estate both real and personal to my son, William Ramey,” who is also named her executor.

Issue of Jacob Reamey II (Jacob I) and Ann Sanford:

I. John Ramey, born ca 1701, executor of his father’s will, married 1st – Smith and 2nd Mary, widow of Robert Sanford, who married, as her 3rd husband, Richard Flint.
II. Colonel Sanford Ramy, Sr. (b. ca 1702; d. 1787) married 1st – Sarah – and 2nd Ann, daughter of Robert Carter, Jr.
III. Benjamin Ramey (ca 1705-1752) (of whom more later).
IV. Jacob Ramey 3rd (b. ca 1710, married Sarah – and d. in Loudon Co., Va., 1787)
V. William Ramey, named in the wills of his brother, Sanford, and wills of his mother and father.
VI. Joseph Ramey, named as youngest son in his father’s will.
VII. Mary Ramey (b. ca 1715), married ca 1730 – Carter (b. ca 1710.) She is given in will of her brother, Col. Sanford Ramey, as having married “Carder” and elsewhere as “Cordell”; living in 1787.


THE FAMILY OF BENJAMIN RAMEY III
(JACOB II, JACOB I)

Benjamin Ramey given also as (Ramey), son of Jacob Ramey, Jr., b. ca 1705, Westmoreland Co., Va.; d. 1752, Fairfax Co., Va.; m. Ann _____. She m. (2) (John?) Phillips of Fairfax Co., Va; who made his will in 1755.

In Fairfax Co., Va., 6 Nov., 1744, (Liber “A”, p. 198) is recorded an indenture, in which Anthony Russell of Fairfax Co. leases to Benjamin Ramey of the same county 182 acres of land in said count – “for and during the time and space of three lives, viz, the life of the said Benjamin Ramey and of Ann, his wife and of Daniel Ramey, the son of Thomas Ramey.”

It will be shown that Thomas Ramey of Prince William County (Fairfax County was formed in 1742 from Prince William) was a son of the above-cited Benjamin Ramey and that Elizabeth Reamey who married Dr. Benjamin Jones was a daughter of this Thomas Ramey of Prince William and, therefore, a sister of the above-cited Daniel Reamey. It is also most logical to assume that, in drawing up a lease involving “time and space of three lives,” Benjamin Ramey would select a grandson, who had probably just been born, to furnish him the best chance of involving the lease over the greatest length of time. In this same indenture, Benjamin, very foresightedly, provided that he could add the name of some other person in case one of those named should die.

In Fairfax County, Va., William Ramey and his mother, Ann Omohundro, (name of second husband), in 1747, made a similar lease (Liber “B”, p. 370) and so did his other brother, Sanford Ramey, in 1750 (Liber “C”, p. 139). Prior to this, on the 15h of November, 1739 (before Fairfax County was set off from Prince William County) Jacob Ramey, another brother of Benjamin, “of ye County of Prince William,” had leased land from Willoughby Newton for the duration of the lives of himself, his wife Sarah and their son Jacob Ramey. Joseph Ramey, the youngest of the brothers, witnessed this indenture.

Benjamin Reamey died intestate (or his will has been lost) before June 18, 1752, for on that date (Fairfax County Court Records – Estate Book A-1, p. 520) is an account of the settlement of the estate of Benjamin Ramey, dec’d, by the widow, Ann Phillips, lately Ann Ramey, and which shows that payments were made to 1. Jacob Ramey; 2. William Ramey; 3. Thomas Ramey.

Inasmuch as Benjamin Ramey had two brothers in Fairfax Co., named Jacob and William, it cannot be stated positively and that the above-cited William and Jacob were his sons and not his brothers without further evidence, but the fact that the “settlements” did not sate they were “debts” and the fact that the estate was very small and therefore not likely to be legacies to “brothers” but more likely to be legacies to “sons” would tend to prove this. At any rate, we know that Thomas was not a brother and lived about 36 years longer. In conjunction with the cited lease of 1744 to Benjamin, which included the “life of Daniel Ramey, son of Thomas Ramey,” we believe we can very safely state that the allegation that Thomas Ramey must have been a son of Benjamin is sufficiently and substantially proven. The issue of Benjamin Ramey and his wife, Ann, were: I. Thomas (of whom more later); II. William (possibly); III. Jacob (possibly); probably others.


THE FAMILY OF THOMAS RAMEY

Thomas Ramey IV (Benjamin III, Jacob II, Jacob I) must have been born ca 1724 as he mentioned as having a son, Daniel, in the above-cited lease, 1744, to his father, Benjamin, who is estimated to have been born ca 1705.

It has been discovered by this compiler that there were two individuals by the name of Thomas Ramey living in Virginia at this time and they both died in 1787. One was Thomas Ramey of Prince William County who had a wife named Mary and the other was a Thomas Ramey (origin and parentage unknown to this compiler) who died in Shenandoah County, leaving a wife named Sarah, three daughters not named in his will





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