I am Butch's son Billy. We have probably met. I was at all the funerals that you mentioned. Grandpa Herman died when I was a boy but I remember him well. He used to give me a piece of butterscotch candy every day when I came over to sit with him. I have some old video of him. We lived next door and I remember spending alot of time with him I've been trying to research the Rhude side of the family but haven't had much luck. Haven't gotten past grandpa hermans parents. I'm somewhat confused on grandma Martha's side. She used to tell me that her mom was Cherokee Indian but I haven't found any trace of it yet. So good to meet family on here. I love my family so much and I miss them dearly