Roach - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Roach Clan Delaware to Ga. to Texas

bbraune — 2013-05-19 21:35:16Z

Karen,

It has been a week now since I offered to give you info on this reunion contacts. I have had no reply from you. I will keep the info on my desk unti Wednesday morning. After that, it will no longer be available.

Betty

Roach Clan Delaware to Ga. to Texas

bbraune — 2013-05-13 09:21:18Z

Karen,

I am not related to this Jonathan Roach that I know of, but I received invites to their reunion for about 10 years. I think the last time I received an invite was for April 2011.

If you will send an email to me at bjrb@hotmail.com, I will give the names and phone numbers on that last flyer to you.
Use subject line Jonathan Roach Reunion, Groveton, TX.

Betty
Austin, Texas

Re: John Joseph Roach

jayneedmonton — 2013-05-11 23:42:22Z

Is this the family? Information from 1910 and 1920 Censuses

1. Frank Roach was born about 1854 in Germany.

Frank was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey.

Frank married Barbara about 1879. Barbara was born about 1855 in Germany.

Barbara was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey.

They had the following children:

+ 2 M i. Martin Roach Sr. was born about 1887 in Germany.

+ 3 M ii. Frank Roach was born on 11 Nov 1890. He died on 21 Feb 1921.

4 M iii. Bernard Roach was born about 1894 in New Jersey.

Bernard was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey.

5 F iv. Annie Roach was born about 1895 in New Jersey.

Annie was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey.

6 M v. Albert Roach was born about 1898 in New Jersey.

Albert was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey.

Second Generation

2. Martin Roach Sr. (Frank) was born about 1887 in Germany.

Martin was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey.

Widower at time of 1910 Census.

Martin had the following children:

7 M i. Martin Roach Jr. was born about 1907 in New Jersey.

Martin was counted in a census in 1910 in New Jersey.

3. Frank Roach (Frank) was born on 11 Nov 1890 in New Jersey. He died on 21 Feb 1921 in Bloomingdale, NJ.

Frank was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey. He was counted in a census in 1920 in Bloomingdale Borough, Passaic County, New
Jersey.

Frank married Mary Edna Dewey Ball McKeever daughter of John McKevis and Eliza. Mary was born on 20 Oct 1898 in New York, NY. She died on 21 Feb 1970.

Mary was counted in a census in 1910 in Pompton Township, Passaic County, New Jersey. She was counted in a census in 1920 in Bloomingdale Borough, Passaic County, New Jersey.

Birthplace according to censuses was New Jersey. Birth year may be as early as 1896.

Frank and Mary had the following children:

8 F i. LaVera Roach "Vera" was born on 4 Feb 1916 in Butler, NJ. She died on 2 Aug 1967.

LaVera was counted in a census in 1920 in Bloomingdale Borough, Passaic County, New Jersey.

9 F ii. Natalie Roach was born on 20 Mar 1917 in Butler, NJ.

Natalie was counted in a census in 1920 in Bloomingdale Borough, Passaic County, New Jersey.
Natalie married Fred Robinson .

10 F iii. Anita Roach was born on 10 Apr 1918 in New Jersey.

Anita was counted in a census in 1920 in Bloomingdale Borough, Passaic County, New Jersey.
11 F iv. Lucea Francis Roach was born on 15 Dec 1921 in Butler, NJ. She died on 16 Jul 1976 in Butler, New Jersey.

Re: Pulaski CO Ill Roachs

rachelbackus1 — 2013-05-08 06:45:23Z

Hi All,

My father was born with the surname Roach, and is the son of the late John Roach, son of Daniel Roach, who I understand hails from the Grand Chain area (Olmsted?). John Roach, my paternal grandfather, died from tuberculosis in the early 1950s. My father was re-named when my grandmother re-married, and the story ends there! John's mother (Daniel's wife) was Ruth Inman (nee Lewis, prev. Roach).
I was wondering if this is the same family?
Thanks,
Rachel

Roach family, Grand Chain, IL

rachelbackus1 — 2013-05-08 06:39:58Z

Hi All,

My father was born with the surname Roach, and is the son of the late John Roach, son of Daniel Roach, who I understand hails from the Grand Chain area (Olmsted?). John Roach, my paternal grandfather, died from tuberculosis in the early 1950s. My father was re-named when my grandmother re-married, and the story end there! I was wondering if this is the same family?

Thanks,
Rachel

Re: Roach Clan Delaware to Ga. to Texas

kbelknapbecken — 2013-05-07 17:25:02Z

I am a descendant of Jonathan Roach and Mary W. Boone. They were my 3rd great grandparents. I know your post is a few years old (I just discovered it), but I would love to attend a Roach reunion. I have never met any of my Roach family, and I would love the opportunity. My line is: Jonathan Roach to Francis Marion Roach to Sarah Frances Roach to Johnnye Frances Robbins to Marion Elizabeth Ware to me, Karen. Can you please tell me when the next reunion is?

Thank you,

Karen Matheny Belknap

Re: KANSAS, Oberlin seeking Daniel Roach info

mark_corcoran42 — 2013-05-01 18:24:21Z

I knew Mike @ his wife Faye well years ago. I Was born in '49 & grew up right next to them. He was an insurance agent as I recall. He was always nice to us kids on the block. Sorry I don't have any information about his father. Try The Oberlin Herald. A weekly paper with archives.

Roach Baby in South Dakota

barryroach20 — 2013-04-28 22:00:42Z

Am looking for a baby born in Grand Rapids, South Dakota in the spring to fall of 1963. The baby was born in the Cathalic Hospital there. Mother's name was S. Roach. Baby has 2 half brothers and a half sister that want to meet and get to know him/her very much. Mother also wants very much to connect with the baby.

Re: Powers/Roach in Orange Co, NY

nanablue2007 — 2013-04-28 15:50:04Z

even thos dates off do you think Patrick and Michael are siblings

Name: Michael Powers
Age in 1870: 21
Birth Year: abt 1849
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1870: Chester, Orange, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Bellvale
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Powers 25
Margaret Powers 22
Edmund Powers 4
Ellen Powers 2
Kate Powers 1/12
Michael Powers 21
Kate Powers 55 widow [probable mother]
Edward Powers 23
Margaret Powers 25

Name: Patrick Powers
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1846
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1880: Chester, Orange, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margaret Powers
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Name: Kate Powers
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Powers 34
Margaret Powers 28
Edward Powers 14
Ellen Powers 12
Katie Powers 10
Michael Powers 9
Mary Powers 7
Mggie Powers 5
Patrick Powers 3
Johnnie Powers 2
Michael Burns 33
Kate Powers 55
George Barlon 45
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Chester, Orange, New York; Roll: 910; Family History Film: 1254910; Page: 48A; Enumeration District: 003; Image: 0097.

Name: Michael Powers
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1880: Chester, Orange, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Mary Powers
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Powers 28
Mary Powers 24
Kate Powers 6
Edward Powers 4
David Powers 3
Michael Powers 6m
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Chester, Orange, New York; Roll: 910; Family History Film: 1254910; Page: 36A; Enumeration District: 003; Image: 0073.

Name: Michael Powers
Age in 1910: 56
Birth Year: abt 1854
[1854]
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1910: Goshen, Orange, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1869
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Powers
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Powers 56
Mary Powers 51
Edward Powers 29
David Powers 27
James Powers 23
William Powers 21
Ella Powers 18

there are a couple of trees that have Catherine "kate" Powers as Catherine/Katherine Lunn

new york state census
Name: Micheal Powers
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1875
Event Place: Chester, Orange, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Relationship to Head of Household:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851
Family Number: 17
Page: 3
Line Number: 28
GS Film number: 834639
Digital Folder Number: 004858102
Image Number: 00158
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Micheal Powers M 24
Wife Mary Powers F 22
Child Kate Powers F 1
Mother Kate Powers F 52
Servant David O Gready M 20

I am not related

Regards,

Connie

Re: Mary Roach 1897 Manchester NH

catherinecorless1 — 2013-04-14 08:35:12Z

You may have the following info, but here goes:
Mary Anne Roache is on the 1911 Irish census for Ballytrasna
Co.Kerry, living with her grandparents John and Katie Greaney.
John and Katie's oldest child Ellen was born in the States in
1900, and the others, Lizzie, Nora and Katie were born in Ireland, so the grandparents took Mary Anne home with them
when they returned to Kerry sometime after 1900. Mary Anne is on the shipping records as going to 31 Hillcrest Ave, Manchester New Hampshire from Ireland in 1920. A Mary A.Roache is listed on the 1937 and 1938 voters list for New Hamshire. Hope this helps.

Powers/Roach in Orange Co, NY

dfuller121 — 2013-04-03 17:42:11Z

I am looking for more information about Michael & Mary (Roach) Powers of Orange Co, NY. (They lived in Chester & Goshen - both in Orange Co, NY.) I am able to find information about Michael (1855-1923)& Mary (1859-1929)& their 10 children when living in NY.(My grandmother, Ella E. Powers, was one of their 10 children.) I do not know the names of either Michael's or Mary's parents, so I'm unable to trace their family trees further back. I believe Mary Roach Powers emigrated to the USA in 1872 & married Michael the following year. If anyone has any information that would help me, it would be much appreciated. Thank you!!

James Marcus Roach and Mary Elizabeth Thompson

ericthered75040 — 2013-04-03 02:26:32Z

Hi,

My great-great grandfather was James Marcus Roach. He was born 27 Nov 1881 in Randolph County, Arkansas. He married Mary Elizabeth Thompson on 16 Nov 1905. Mary was born 23 Feb 1890 in Warm Springs, Arkansas. Together James Marcus and Mary Elizabeth have three children (that I know of): Pearl May, Emil Leonard, and Celia O'Gean.

James Marcus died 26 Aug 1958 in Pocahontas, Randolph, Arkansas, United States. Mary Elizabeth died in September of 1975, but I don't know the exact date. I don't know anything else about Mary's family.

James Marcus was the son of Franklin Alexander Roach and Abbie Malinda Slate. Franklin was the son of William Franklin, who was the son of William, who was the son of Francis. I don't have anything passed Francis Roach.

Does anyone else share this line?

Re: Roach Family Carribean/Newfoundland

agenge — 2013-03-24 02:01:38Z

You may by this date have sorted this out? Did your A Genge marry twice? I have Alice Genge b. 1860 d 1936 dau. of George and Catherine (Stokes) she marr. Victor Roach (1857-1933) they had a family of 8 that I know of all appear to be NFL. Could Alice have marr. Abel as a 1st or 2nd husband?? The only Rowena I have is the dau of Samuel Roach 1894-1976 and Margaret Arnold. Samuel being the son of Victor and Alice.

Re: WILLIAM AND MARY ROACH/ ILLINOIS

rahturner — 2013-03-08 20:34:18Z

my william roach married a catherine harrell and the nane fredonia was not one of her children sorry i can't be of more help

Re: WILLIAM AND MARY ROACH/ ILLINOIS

bantry11 — 2013-03-08 05:34:47Z

I have Roach's from Cairo in my family. John and Catherine (O'Callahan) had Mary Ellen Roach born in Cairo, IL 7/23/1862. I believe John died and Catherine remarried John O'Connell and they had two children that I know of John and Cornelius. They are buried in St. Mary's Cemetery, Cowley, KS. Looking for where John Roach was from in Ireland and where/when he died.

Re: Rudd Fell

northarm — 2013-03-04 03:43:34Z

Hi Carol

Great, my paternal grandmother was Agnes Rudd, born in the Falklands and was the eldest child of Ann Mac Call and John Edward Rudd. They had thirteen children.
I have some material, but not much of John Rogers generation and before.
I live in New Zealand now, but most of my family are in Chile.

Re: Rudd Fell

jgillert78 — 2013-03-03 17:33:57Z

Carol,
My Father's mother was Louisa Rudd. I have been in contact over the last few years with descendants of John Rogers Rudd and Ellen Roach. One who lives on the island of Cypress is from their first child, a daughter. Another is of Scottish descent and lives in York, Enland. She is descended from John Rudd. Ellen married William Roberts after the murder of John Rogers in 1864 and had about a dozen more kids. I have been in contact with a Roberts descendant in Norfolk, England.

You can take a look at my Family tree, "The Gillert Family." I have quite a bit of information.

Gellert or Gillert

kelpercarol — 2013-03-02 22:21:19Z

Hi Peter,
I noticed your reply to Cathering and was interested in your story. I would love to hear from you as you have ties to the Falkland Islands. I am trying to put together information. I would be grateful if you could get in touch
Cheers
Carol

Rudd Fell

kelpercarol — 2013-03-02 22:16:38Z

Hi only just saw your post, would be delighted to hear from you.
Please contact via the message thing

Look forwrd to hearing from you
Carol

ROACH Franklin M and Lodie M

t42Bluebonnet — 2013-02-22 23:38:38Z

ROACH Franklin M and Lodie M

I photographed this gravestone in the Blue Bonnet Hills Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 229,522 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Looking for more info

northarm — 2013-02-22 09:21:07Z

I too am a great great grandson of John Roger Rudd Falkland Islands

Jack L. Roach of Tulsa, OK 1943

drbrownlee — 2013-02-20 23:36:55Z

Jack is pictured in the Gosport, yearbook of the 43-E class at Morton Air Academy in Blythe, CA. He is a flight cadet. I'm not kin, but thought this might help someone researching the family.

James L. Roach - b. Medina County, Ohio

Contribution — 2013-02-19 12:51:18Z

COSHOCTON: James L. Roach, 68 passed away February 17, 2013 in Coshocton, Ohio.

He was born in Seville, Ohio to Elmer and Beulah (Johnson) Roach.

Jim worked at the Akron Products in Seville; Saup Roofing in Zanesville, Ohio as a roofer and at the A.I. Root Candle Co. in Medina, Ohio in maintenance and retired from Amerigas in Lodi, OH.

Jim enjoyed fishing, hunting, and bowling.

He is survived by his children: Eric Roach, Vanceboro, NC, Kelly Roach, Zanesville, OH, Jacob Roach, Danville, IN, Cory Roach, Adamsville, Oh; and six grandchildren; brother: Jerry Roach of Murphy, NC; and a sister, Joyce from Burbank, OH.

Jim was preceded in death by his parents.

Service will be Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm at the Armstrong Funeral Home SR 3 in Seville.
Family and friends may call Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5-8 pm at the Armstrong Funeral Home. Don Tripp will be officiating and burial will be in the Mound Hill Cemetery, Seville.

Memorials may be given to one's choice or the Adamsville Community Fire Department, 5345 Mollies Rock Road, Adamsville, Oh 43802.

ROACH John L and Lucille K

t42Bluebonnet — 2013-02-12 16:21:17Z

ROACH John L and Lucille K

I photographed this gravestone in the Blue Bonnet Hills Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 229,522 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Roach Family Charlotte and Pittsylvania, VA

shirleyroach64 — 2013-02-08 23:55:16Z

I wish our family fit into your tree but I don't know anything pre-1849 with Ausberry Roach living in either Pittsylvania co, VA or Charlotte co, VA. I have no father or siblings for Ausberry. I have been on his track for years. It is like he dropped out of the sky. I will follow your research with great interest. Shirley

Re: Roach Family Charlotte and Pittsylvania, VA

shirleyroach64 — 2013-02-08 23:48:27Z

I wish our family fit into your tree but I don't know anything pre-1849 with Ausberry Roach living in either Pittsylvania co, VA or Charlotte co, VA. I will follow your research with great interest. Shirley

family histrey

robroach29 — 2013-02-04 04:23:04Z

my grandfather was albert roach, born 1881 in bendgio vic aus, moved to NZ aged 20 years. had three children in NZ, my father william josith roach, jimmy who died as a child, and mertle who married bob hodson. my grandfather died when I was 6 or 7 1954 or 5. my dad use to write to family in aus from nz.

Re: Roach Family Charlotte and Pittsylvania, VA

shirleyroach64 — 2013-01-17 00:46:12Z

My interest in the Roach family is also via my husband's family. His great-grandfather was Asberry (A.B, Augsberry) Roach. I know nothing about parent counties in Virginia since I am a native Iowan. Therefore, I am searching in the dark. Asberry was supposedly born in Campbell county (?) , VA in 1849 and died in Pittsylvania county, Virginia in 1934. His wife was Mary Ellen Holland who preceded him in death. I was wondering if Asberry could be a son of Reverand Eljah White Roach? Our information is very vague. Supposedly, Aberry left home after a significant feud with his father. Asberry's son, my husband's grandfather, James, also had a fight with his father and had little to do with his father after James' mother's death which he blamed his father for.

Re: Roach Family Charlotte and Pittsylvania, VA

shirleyroach64 — 2013-01-17 00:46:11Z

Re: Roach Family Charlotte and Pittsylvania, VA

shirleyroach64 — 2013-01-17 00:46:07Z

Re: REPLY TO DEBBIE FEHR

angsal61 — 2013-01-10 01:09:21Z

i knew a Billie Louise Roach, in Strawn, TX. and she had a sister named Carolyn Roach, in which i am looking for, we went to school together from 1st grade to 10th grade. if this is the correct person. there were not too many families of Roach, that i know of. The parents of Billie Louise and Carolyn had brothers and sisters. They were older than me.

Re: Update on the Roche / Roach DNA project

OurFamiliesUSA — 2013-01-06 05:19:34Z

Peter,
I read your post on the FTDNA updates,and I want to caution people of copying anything from the Price & Associates Website the Natahn Murphy who did that Roach research made some mistakes, Richard Price has not been able to/ or doesn't care to correct any of them, a few Long time Roach researchers sent him correction,that have been ignored, Nathan is no longer with them,the work on Roach lines stopped with his leaving, so take that websites info with a grain of salt

Update on the Roche / Roach DNA project

RocheFamilyTreeDNA — 2013-01-05 05:43:05Z

Hello Everyone,

The Roche / Roach DNA project group at Family Tree DNA has been in operation for many years and I thought an update would be beneficial given that we have made substantial progress. We have had considerable success in revealing the ancestral histories of the group members. We have identified one major ancestral lineage and numerous minor lineages.

The major ancestral lineage comprises over 30% of project members. The lineage dates from approximately 1200 AD and none of these branch members have a known ancestor based on traditional paper genealogy. In addition, the spelling of the surname varies for these related families (Roach, Roche, and Roache are found within this branch). This confirms that the spelling of the name is not important for your family tree research.

The details of these latest developments can be found on the following website:

http://rochelineages.wordpress.com/

The site has additional background information on the DNA project and the connections that have been revealed between many family groups. If you are interested in joining the group, specific information can be found on website.

Best regards,

Peter Roche
Administrator: Roache DNA Project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Roache/

Re: Asberry Roach

lapin25 — 2013-01-03 15:26:14Z

I remember you grandmother, I even have a few pictures. Asberry was married to Mary Holland. His tombstone lists his name as A. B. Roach, which would suggest Berry might have been a middle name (I don't know for sure). I have seen a misprint of his name and it appeared as Osberry.

Re: Asberry Roach

tburton1999 — 2013-01-01 22:37:09Z

Ruth Roach Weatherford was my grandmother. She was married to Archie Weatherford.

I would love to find out what you know about the Roach side. I haven't done any research in awhile but when I did I had trouble finding info on the Edwards side.

Happy New Year!

Re: Asberry Roach

lapin25 — 2013-01-01 15:41:22Z

Asberry Roach is my great grandfather. Norman and Ellie Virginia Edwards are my grandparents. I have some information on the Roach side of the family and lots of questions about the Edwards.

A friend has been helping me with the research. Who is your grandmother?

William Arthur Roach 1871-1964

mousetale85 — 2012-12-31 21:01:23Z

I am looking for any information on his parents and children. He was married to my Great Aunt Lu Vena Luttrull , daughter of Allen Talbert and Pricilla Lay Luttrull. They are my great grandparents on my father's side. Lawerence Elmer was my grandpa. Please contact me at mousetale85@hotmail.com .

Thanks,
Rhonda Luttrull Jeffery

Re: James L Roach, Nancy C Forehand (Roach), Samuel Moody Roach

r1o9a4c3h — 2012-12-30 19:48:42Z

Adam, email me directly to doncher3102r@att.net and we can discuss the documentation of the Roach line I have.

Elmer Ray Roach

erineroach — 2012-12-30 01:30:18Z

Hi! I am looking for more information regarding Elmer Ray Roach, my great-grandfather (his parents, grandparents, siblings, etc.) I would appreciate any help or direction!

I know that he had a farm in Mason County, WV. His first wife, Amanda M. Edwards had 12 children: (all of the boys, except Sam, went by their middle names).

Ray Roach, of Weirton, WV
****My grandfather Charles Ralph Roach, of Sistersville, WV
Rev. Rankin Roach, of Ravenswood, WV
Robert Roach, of Mason, WV
Sam Roach, of Lancaster, CA
Alice M. Roach Tripp, of Mason, WV
Betty Roach Lavender of Mason, WV
Peggy Roach Hutton, of Bradbury, OH
Lorna Roach Forsee, of Batavia, OH
Russell Roach
Rex Roach
Randall Roach

Thank you so much! You can reach me at erineroach@yahoo.com.

Re: James L Roach, Nancy C Forehand (Roach), Samuel Moody Roach

adammichaelroach — 2012-12-29 20:13:26Z

I'd love to be able to contact you for more information about this. It would be very helpful.

Re: Roche's from Ireland to NY and NJ

ldroche — 2012-12-21 18:38:28Z

Mellisa,

The father of Edw. C Roche is James Roche of Dublin according to a bible which I just discovered.. I posted more about the bible under James ROCHE.

Wesley A Roche b.1935

Re: Roche's from Ireland to NY and NJ

ldroche — 2012-12-21 18:34:43Z

George Washington Roche is written into our family Bible, along with many or all of the decedents mentioned as children of John Wilson Roche, who is my great grandfather. I am not at home now but will try to research when we get back to Minnesota.

Albert P. Roach Manchester England

dstanley51 — 2012-12-21 14:42:25Z

Looking for information on Albert P. Roach, married Marie Rose Unsworth in Lancashire, England abt 1925 and had two sons Terry and Tony born about 1932 and 1927.

George, Caroline Roach/Marshall Texas

phylkirkpatrick — 2012-12-18 04:58:12Z

I am looking for decedents of George and Caroline Roach a Black family from Marshall Texas. They had 4 children one of their sons was name Lewis Roach my paternal grandfather who died in 1927. Lewis had a brother name Otha and 2 sisters Mattie and Mamie (I think those are their names.) Their was a nephew name Spurgeon Strickland. If someone knows of this family, please contact me!

Re: Carlow, Ireland to Ontario, Canada

mgrace_briggs — 2012-12-11 21:05:33Z

Hi Chris,
Sorry, I misread..it was Gerry from Ontario that I should have addressed.
I am not into ancestry but now understand that my ggg grandmother Catherine Brennan and your ggg grandfather Patrick Brennan were brother & sister.
Mom, Ellen (Ella) Cremmen born 1913 youngest daughter of Mary Sullivan and John Cremmen did speak of her Uncles. They would be the children of John Sullivan (1817-1901) and Mary Roach and grandchildren of Catherine Brennan (1812-1870) and John Roach.
Jeremiah Sullivan.. bachelor, lived with us for awhile in Owen Sound and is buried in Dornoch.
Jack Sullivan?
Owen Sullivan.. stories were that he was an exceptionally good person.
Pat Sullivan.. made his way to the USA and family stories and laughs were that he walked all the way. He was a tailor and had his own tailor shop. He married and had four daughters and two sons all of whom are deceased.
He eventually settled in Hollister, Calif. His grandson is Loren McClure and may still be living.
My email address is: mgrace-briggs@sympatico.ca.
Cheers,
Cousin Mary

Re: Littleberry Roach

underwood_jones — 2012-12-11 18:09:59Z

For John Wiley Jones, per his death certificate I have mother's maiden name is Bryant, father's name is W. R. Jones. His obituary states he died in 1922 and his mother survived him. Samuel Earl Jones is Cherokee and listed on the Dawes Roll, thought John Wiley Jones does not look Cherokee and neither do Nancy McDaniel's parents (and neither John Wiley nor Nancy are on the Dawes Roll)...I am still researching to see if there is any possible question of paternity?

Re: Carlow, Ireland to Ontario, Canada

mgrace_briggs — 2012-12-11 16:18:10Z

Hi Gerry in Canada.
I too live in Ontario and Mary Sullivan and John Cremmen were my grandparents, both of whom were dead before my birth. They had three girls, Alice, Irene and Ellen. Ellen (Ella) was my mother and she died June 1st 2006. Mom never spoke much about her childhood but she did mention that her grandmother did live with them in her later years. Mary Sullivan was known for her care of the poor. She was a teacher and I have a book of hers from students who sang her praises. I have been up to the Dornoch cemetery several times in the past year as my dear bachelor brother, Patrick John Grace died suddenly last year and requested to be buried there. I guess Angela Roach would have been Mary Sullivan's sister. I can't see how Mary & John could be your ggparents although it would be wonderful to find another close family member. Please feel free to contact me at mgrace-briggs@sympatico.ca
Sincerely,
Mary Grace-Briggs
p.s. Mom's bachelor uncle, Jerry Sullivan, Mary Sullivan's brother lived with us for a few years. As kids we called him "Jeremiah the Prophet.' I found his tombstone in Dornoch, St. Paul's Catholic Cemetery, Glenelg Township, Grey County. (He never married).

Re: Carlow, Ireland to Ontario, Canada

thestarfires — 2012-12-11 02:05:00Z

Hi Mary,

It's wonderful to meet another cousin! If my records are correct, we're third cousins twice removed.

I may have been unclear, and for that I apologise. Mary Sullivan and John Cremmen were not my g grandparents; Mary was my second cousin three times removed. (John Cremmen's uncle, who was a different John Sullivan, married Catherine Brennan, one of the daughters of John Brennan and Mary Rice whom I mention below.)

According to my records Mary Sullivan (1872-1938), was the daughter of John Sullivan (1817-1901) and Mary Roach (1836-1921).

Mary Roach was the daughter of Catherine Brennan (1812-1870) and John Roach (birth and death dates unknown; Catherine was widowed on the 1851 census).

Catherine and John's marriage and the baptism of 8 children (including Mary Roach Sullivan on 21 Feb 1836), are recorded at St. Lazarian's RC Church in Leighlinbridge, Co Carlow, Ireland.

I believe that Catherine Brennan Roach, Mary Roach Sullivan's mother, was the sister of my ggg grandfather, Patrick Brennan. My ggg grandparents' marriage is recorded at the same church, as is the baptism of their oldest daughter, Margaret. I believe another sibling was John Brennan who married Mary Rice. Their marriage and the baptism of several children (including Catherine, the aunt-by-marriage of Dennis Cremmin) are also recorded at St. Lazarian. All three families farmed first in Beckwith, Lanark Co., Ontario, before moving to Grey County. Patrick and John both farmed 100 acre lots in Holland Twp; Catherine Brennan Roach had a 50 acre lot literally across the road in Glenelg.

Thank you for the information on Mary Sullivan and John Cremmen's children; I had only Alice and Irene listed and only their years of birth as 1908 and 1909.

I look forward to hearing from you, Mary. My direct email is chris (at) brennan-families.com, if you'd like to contact me directly.

Re: Carlow, Ireland to Ontario, Canada

mgrace_briggs — 2012-12-11 01:28:53Z

HI CHRIS,
Mary Sullivan and John Cremmen were my grandparents, both of whom died before I was born. They had three children, Alice, Irene and Ellen. Ellen (Ella) was my mother and she died June 1st 2006. Mom married Raymond Grace from Ottawa. I was up to the Dornoch cemetery last Summer and visited their grave. I can't understand how Mary & John could be your g grandparents. Do you think you have the right couple? Keep me informed re. your search. Mary

Re: my father's real father (Roach)

OurFamiliesUSA — 2012-12-10 09:16:42Z

Was it the y-DNA or the Family Finder type test? and your results match other Roach men ? and where is Angela's family from?