Roundtree - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: ROUNTREE DNA UPDATE MATCHES US LINES

ginroun_1 — 2009-08-17 10:47:39Z

The Rountree DNA site has been updated. Markers and Pedigrees may be viewed by clicking links at top of page.

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/rountree/

Re: ROUNTREE DNA UPDATE MATCHES US LINES

ginroun_1 — 2009-08-13 16:24:27Z

Ancestral information has been provided by descendants and is not my work. If you have questions on the line of Charles Roundtree b. 1680 Ireland or England please contact me. I have extensive files on the family.

Thanks

Ginny

ROUNTREE DNA UPDATE MATCHES US LINES

ginroun_1 — 2009-08-13 16:22:11Z

ROUNTREE-ROUNDTREE-ROWANTREE-ROWNTREE-ROUNTRY SURNAME

As of yesterday August 12, 2009 five participants whose ancestor came to America are a match. We now know that dispite the many Rountree stories and how these five ancestors arrived in America, we all share a common ancestor.

These lines are:
Assigned Lines:
Charles Roundtree b c1680 England or Ireland m Lydia McMann (67 marker test)
+ Thomas Roundtree b 1733 Co Armagh Ire Orange Co. NC, m. Eva Sturgis
+ Andrew Roundtree b 1772 Orange Co NC m Mary "Polly" Robinson
+ John Jackson Roundtree b 1815 Maury Co TN m Margaret J. McKee
+John Marion Roundtree b 1850-1851 m. Melvina Witherspoon
+Paul Hollis Rountree b. 1878 Maury County m. Sarah Adeline Spivey

John Rountree b c1798 Co Armagh Ireland m Mary Anne (67 marker test)
+ Charles Rountree b 1822 Co. Armagh Ire m Frances Jones
+ William John Rountree b c1858 Co. Armagh Ire m Mary Connolly
+Frederick Rountree b 1883 in Co. Armagh Ire m Margaret Mallon

NOTE: The two males above match 66 markers.

James Vandiver Jones b 1803 SC or VA (67 marker test)
William J. Jones b 1826 Greenville County SC
William J. "Johnny" Jones b 1854 Anderson County, SC

NOTE: James V Jones matches the line of Charles Rountree b c1680 65 of 67 markers.
James V Jones matches the line of John Rountree b 1798 64 of 67 markers.
James Vandiver Jones is a Roundtree by any spelling. If anyone has information
that would help his descendants please contact me and I will get you in touch
with each other. It is believed that this mismatch in markers occured about 1800
but can't be certain.

Turner Roundtree b c1790 Spartenburg SC m Clara "Clarey" Smith (37 markers)
+ John S Rowntree b c1830 Spartenburg SC m Emily Francis Lanford
+ James Turner Rowntree b 1856 SC m Mattie Rowena Bearden
+ Carl Bearden Rowntree b1884 TN m Harriett Vivian Fowler

NOTE: This ancestor matches the lines of Charles Rountree b. 1680 and John Rountree b. 1798 on all 37 markers.

We have another line who has tested with 37/37 markers matching. I do not have access to the ancestral line at this time but hope to have it soon. It is said that this is a line of Richardson Roundtree.

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FACTS IMPORTANT TO KNOW:
There is a sixth participant whose line is of Yorkshire England who is not a match...not even a close one. He matches 30 markers of 37 markers. If tested on 67 markers he would undoubtbly still be unmatched with the rest.

Of course this was very disappointing to a number of Rountree's who have believed that they they were from this line.

Perhaps with further testing on new members we can find other matches for John Rowntree b. 1680 in Yorkshire England.

That line is as follows:
Unassigned Group:
John Rowntree b c1680 Yorkshire, England d 1741 Yorkshire, England m Ann Marton -
+ Robert Rowntree b 1722 Yorkshire, England d c1789 m Mary Halliday
+ Robert Rowntree b 1754 Yorkshire, England m Ann Wood
+ William Rowntree b 1792 Yorkshire, England m Elizabeth Bowman
+ John Rowntree b 1824 Yorkshire, England m Sarah Horn
+ William G. Rowntree b 1850 London, England m Anne J. Kirkby

We beg you to participate in this surname DNA study. A participant should be male, have a proven line to their earliest known ancestor.

To order your kit go to: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/rountree/order

You may also contact me at ginrounATcomcast.net

Happy researching!

Ginny Rountree

Re: Samuel Rountree

mmurf101 — 2009-07-20 03:19:24Z

I have just begun searching for my husband's family. We have found notes and little pieces at a time. Today we found a handwritten note in an old book-Roundtree in Texas was relatives. Margaret Murphy was J Tault Murphy's sister. If she had been married before to an Ingram as on the 1880 census from lauderdale, Alabama, then we just may have a link. We do not have much on our family. Let me know, willing to share
Mary Murphy in TX but of OK-Tenn-Ala

Woodrow Roundtree,born Sept. 19, 1915, in Bristow, son of, John Hamilton and Lucinda (Brown) Roundtree.

KENNELLYMARKA — 2009-07-05 23:27:16Z

2001 ,
Woodrow Roundtree MAUD -- Graveside funeral
services for Maud resident
Woodrow Russell Roundtree, 86,
are scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Sat-
urday at Cummings Cemetery.
Rev. Carl Upton will officiate;
burial will be under the direction
of Knight Funeral Home.
Roundtree died Thursday at his
home in Maud.
He was born Sept. 19, 1915, in
Bristow to John Hamilton and
Lucinda (Brown) Roundtree.
He was employed as an as-
sembly line worker for McDon-
nell Douglas, retiring and moving
back to Oklahoma in 1978.
He was a member of Free
Pentecostal Church in Maud.
Roundtree married Violet
Swarb in Maud in 1997. She sur-
vives him, of the home.
Other survivors include one
son, Carl Roundtree, Maud; one
brother, Leon Roundtree, Mid-
land, Texas; three sisters, Frances
Hodge and Iva Trice, both of
Tulsa, and Flora Webb, Stroud;
and several grandchildren and
great-grandchildren.
2001 ,
Free Pentecostal Church,"
Pentecostal,s Church.

Re: Rowntree/Rountree DNA

ginroun — 2009-06-14 02:47:59Z

I agree with Fred. My husband is of the Thomas Roundtree and Eva Sturgis line. He and Fred match perfectly as does the Turner Roundtree line.

Please! We need more of you to be tested.

Fred if you read this please contact me. I am having a terrrible time with your mail.

67 markers are due back on Monday.

Ginny

Re: Martin Van Buren Roundtree...Hunt Co, TX

AmyWilliamsHenderson — 2009-05-23 13:29:52Z

First of all, this is Becky...not Amy. I'm using a friend's computer.

Secondly, please accept my apology for taking so long to reply. I didn't see the notice until this morning.

To answer your question, I have little/no information about about Martin Roundtree. My UDC (United Daughters of the Confederacy) chapter placed a military marker at his gravesite last fall. I was trying to find any descendants that I could...just to let them know about our ceremony. I have pictures from the ceremony, if your MIL is interested. Also some paperwork (his pension application, I believe...testing my memory here!) I can scan in for her.

My email is historyluvr@hotmail.com

Becky

Re: Martin Van Buren Roundtree...Hunt Co, TX

balshrl1 — 2009-04-26 04:48:11Z

Martin's son Perry is my mother in law's Grandfather on her Mothers side. Do you have alist of all Martin and Mary Roundtree's Children

Rowntree/Rountree DNA

Fred_Rowntree — 2009-04-19 20:20:43Z

There is a Rountree/Rowntree etc. project site on Family Tree DNA. So far, there are 4 participants.

I am one of the participants and my father and his ancestors lived in Co. Armagh, Ireland. Prior to that is pure guesswork, but it is rumoured that the family came from Yorkshire, England.

Another participant is descended from Thomas Rountree and Evy Sturgis, who immigrated, in 1760, to, eventually, Orange County, North Carolina. Thomas, who was born in 1733, came from the same place in Co. Armagh as my family, so I am certain that we are related, but, I know for certain, at least, 8 generations apart.

A third participant is descended from Turner Roundtree, of South Carolina. Turner was born about 1796, and it is possible that he is a grandson of Richardson Rountree, but there is no evidence other than his name Turner.

I think that it usually assumed, in the States, that Richardson Rountree was a descendent of immigrants who came directly from England. But did they?

Why the query? Well, all the three participants above have identical y-DNA across 37 markers. According to FTDNA, there is a 99% chance that all three of us have a common ancestor around 10 generations ago. Now, the Rountree family was in Co. Armagh in 1660, which would be about 11 or 12 generations ago. Does this indicate that Richardson Rountree's ancestors came from Co. Armagh?

What was wanted was a Rountree/Rowntree who is directly descended from a Yorkshire family. Well, we now have one whose forefather was
John Rowntree, born around 1680.

This Rowntree's DNA results for the first 25 markers were promising, there being two mismatches. This could lead to the possibility of 90% that we had a common ancestor around 800 years ago. This is around the time that surnames were starting to be widely used in England. However, on the next 12 markers there were a further 6 mismatches, which really precludes any relationship in the last 2000 years, if the line from father to father is 'legitimate'.

What is needed is more Rountree men to be tested, especially those descended from the Richardson Rountree line, and from the Georgia family, whose ancestry, I believe, is unknown, in spite of their 'trees'. But at least 37 markers need to be tested, and preferably 67. As can be seen from above only 25 markers are almost certainly a waste of time.

ROUNDTREE Flora Lee and Alva B

t42Smithfield — 2009-04-04 15:40:04Z

ROUNDTREE Flora Lee and Alva B

NormanGuiling photographed this gravestone in the Smithfield Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 202,518 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Obit: Fay Edna Roundtree b 1897 Chewelah, WA d 1987 Roseburg, OR

saraweythman — 2009-03-15 01:00:59Z

Late reply, but since Betty Weythman (nee Roundtree -- 1920-2007, of Chewelah, WA) was my grandmother, I figured I'd reply that yes, she was married to Vernet Weythman ( 1919-1993, of Monitor, WA) in 1941.

Vernet is the only son of Elmer Weythman (1897-1957), who was the son of George Washington Weythman (b.1860), who was the brother of Charles J. Weythman (b.1853).

Genuine family tree?

Fred_Rowntree — 2009-01-01 11:01:35Z

I know that this might come over as boring to some members of the Rountree/Roundtree/Rowntree family, especially regular readers of the message boards, but can I, once again, make a New Year plea, please? I know there is no very much hope, as I have not received an answer over the past few years, but I don't want to give up and I am always hopeful that a new reader of the message boards might come up with the truth.

I, and I would think lots of other members of our family, would very much like to find the original source(s) of the family tree of the Rowntree/Rountree/Roundtree family from Moses Rowntree (b.1550) through William, Joseph and John, to Frances (sic) Rountree (apparently born 1649), if such source(s) exist.

The earliest date that I have been able to find of when this tree first 'surfaced' was in 1963, in a book 'The family of Ebenezer Durden Rountree' by W.E.Rountree, without any references, and similar information was sent to the Church of Latter Day Saints, for their records, by Frances La Merle Cochrane in the 1970s.

La Merle Cochrane’s notes said that the information was gathered by I.W.Rountree (d. 1979), of Swainsboro, Georgia, during a visit to the British Isles. A nephew of I.W. told me that I.W. never visited the British Isles, and the nephew did not know of any references for the tree. W.E.Rountree, who was I.W.Rountree’s son and also lives in Swainsboro, never acknowledged my letters.

If any one of the Rountree/Roundtree/Rowntree family, or any one else, does know where the data originated, e.g. in a family bible or church records, will they please let me, and other members of the family, know. I know that a number of American family members have this as part of the tree in their genealogy and I am sure that they would like to believe that it was based on solid records, rather than some possible guess work by person(s) unknown, or even the false work of a rogue genealogist. Surely, at least one person who has included it in their tree must have records to show the origin. I must say that I find it inconceivable that they continue to keep it as part of their family history without any proof at all. The first five generations from Moses to Frances (sic) are said to be in England, where no evidence exists and no one in England appears to use it. The sixth generation, Charles, who did exist, appears in Armagh, Ireland, and is my family. Again, there is no evidence or tradition of Moses to Frances in Ireland. I will never include it in my tree unless the sources can be shown to be valid.

Thank you.

Fred Rowntree

Family of Celia Roundtree & Elijah Hanes - Blount Co. Ala.

Judy0743 — 2008-11-27 13:59:31Z

Celia Roundtree
Daughter of Cader Rabey Roundtree and Penelope Renfrow
b. abt. 1801 - Wayne County, North Carolina
d. August 22, 1862 - Blount County, Alabama
m. Elijah Hanes - abt. 1819 - Georgia

Elijah Hanes:
b. August 1798 - Georgia
d. aft. 1870 - Blount County, Alabama

Children
Martha R (Patsey) Hanes
Sarah R. Hanes
Elijah Roundtree Hanes
Theresa R. Hanes
Raby Rountree Hanes
Hettie Hanes
Joshua Andrew Jackson Hanes
aka: J.A.J. Hanes - Joshua Hanes - Andrew Hanes

Joshua Andrew Jackson Hanes
b. abt. 1832 - Georgia
d. aft. 1880 - Blount County, Alabama
m. Margaret Haden - October 6, 1857 - Blount Co. Alabama
Civil War: Private - Company C - 28th Alabama Infantry, CSA

Children:
Josephine (Fenie) T. Hanes
b. February 1861 - Blount County, Alabama
d. Unknown (Jefferson or Blount County, Alabama)
m. Joseph Watson Self - March 6, 1888 - Blount Co. Ala.

Joseph Watson Self:
Son of William Self and Sarah Taylor
Grandson of Vincent Garner Self and Louisa Loggins
b. April 7, 1860 - Blount Co. Ala.
d. March 10, 1930

Children:

George L. Self
William / Will Jackson Self m. Thelma Edwards
Thomas E. Self
Mattie L. Self
James E. Self

Re: Roundtree, Elizabeth

meshalle — 2008-10-31 17:55:50Z

My grandmother name is Gertrude Roundtree. She lives in Dade City, FL. Her parents names were John W. Roundtree and Joella Roundtree. I don't know if were any kin , but please reply back soon. Trying to find out my family tree.

Re: Roundtree, Elizabeth

meshalle — 2008-10-31 17:55:48Z

Re: Roundtree, Elizabeth

meshalle — 2008-10-31 17:55:20Z

William ROUNDTREE m. to DANSBY

kimdewald — 2008-09-29 05:54:11Z

searching for the correct line of ROUNDTREE. I have Elizabeth DANSBY b. in 1836 in Barbour Alabama. She was m to William ROUNDTREE on 23 Oct 1860. I have been able to locate one child W.T. b.1859. From what I have heard William was killed during the war and Elizabeth would later remarry. I'm trying to locate his family line. I have came across 2 that might be his Seaborn or Calvin. Hoping someone out there might know.
thank you
kim

Re: Richard Roundtree

JHLH004 — 2008-09-18 18:28:45Z

I know this post is really old. I just happened to pull this site up again. We are talking about the same family. Thomas is my Grandfather. Uncle Jack is my Great uncle, and so is Uncle Richard. Please reply if you have any other info. My Uncle Jack also brother my Great Grandmother Alta Johnson to Californai when they came. If you have any info on her, please reply.

LC (Leonidous) Roundtree

LINDAHAINES — 2006-11-27 21:16:11Z

I am interested in information on Leonidous Roundtree. Located on the 1850 TX Census records for Walker Co. He
Married Ann Eliza Smither in 1851 in Walker TX. Is he related to anyone out there?
Linda

Re: Roundtree bible

BettyHorne35 — 2007-04-23 00:35:30Z

I descend from Jesse Rountree (Roundtree) of NC through is daughter, Prussia Ann Rountree, b. abt. 1800, who married Jordan Leggett. Prussia and Jordan both were b. in Robeson Co., NC. They moved to Appling Co. Ga. Do you have this family in your bible?

Many thanks!

Betty Horne

Re: Family Tree plea

rlbatty — 2008-01-04 00:54:50Z

I know this is way off base, but do you have any listing for a Elizabeth Roundtree, born in 1789 in North Carolina who married a Kinchen Ammons?
Thanks for any info
Darlene

Roundtree as middle name

rlbatty — 2008-05-01 01:46:27Z

I am trying to find a connection with my family line - I have a James Ammons who has his mother listed as Elizabeth Roundtree - however other info shows her actual name was Elizabeth Roundtree Bryant. Is there anywhere to search for people with the middle name of Roundtree? Thanks for any help

Roundtree, Elizabeth

rlbatty — 2007-10-16 08:04:49Z

Looking for anyone who might recognize the name of Elizabeth Roundtree, she married Kinchen Ammons,

Elizabeth Roundtree was born about 1789 in North Carolina
She married a Kinchen Ammons and they lived in Georgia, Florida, Georgia. Does anyone know of this name or a connection with Roundtree and Ammons families?
Thanks for any info
Darlene

Sarah Roundtree of VA

ght72 — 2006-06-14 17:31:06Z

I have Sarah Roundtree m Jan 21, 1719/20 to John Hollowell Jr. in Va. They were Quakers. Sarah b 1698 in VA. I have them having 5 children, 3 girls and 2 boys. The youngest boy, Thomas m Mary Peele is my ancestor. If anyone has information on this line I would like to hear from you. I have her parents as Moses and Sarah, but haven't been able to prove it yet. My e-mail is ght@3rivers.net. Thanks.

Martin Van Buren Roundtree...Hunt Co, TX

pita08 — 2008-06-24 21:15:33Z

I am looking for information/descendants for Martin Van Buren Roundtree (1836-1906). He is buried at Shiloh Cemetery.

We are planning a ceremony to honor Civil War veterans and I am trying to confirm what unit he was with. I think it was Co I, 40th MS Infantry, but I'm not positive. I also need to have contact with some of his descendants, if possible.

Thanks!
Becky

Re: Roundtree & Richardson (1704-VA)

nabors165 — 2006-08-30 01:00:25Z

you may be interested in my posting on Henry Roundtree and Wealthy Richarson go to Heart co. Ky. I just posted to day june 8 2003.
nadine nabors

Re: JOHN S ROWNTREE and THOMAS ROUNDTREE

ginroun — 2007-03-27 12:06:44Z

We now have a perfect match of 37 markers between John S Rowntree and Thomas Roundtree line. We are going to wait for more to join the project before upgrading to the 67 marker testing.

JOHN S ROWNTREE and THOMAS ROUNDTREE

ginroun — 2007-03-24 14:26:59Z

My husband has been involved in the Rountree (any spelling) DNA study. His first 25 markers are returned with 13 remaining markers to be tested. He is with the Family Tree DNA project. There are only two to three members in the project.

The project also has ties to the Huxford study (Wiregrass GA area)and Clan Fraser in Scotland.

Information is available at this link:
http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/r/rountree/index.html

He is a perfect match to John S Rowntree b. 1830 of Spartanburg SC and his descendant.My husband is of proven line of Thomas Roundtree and Eva Sturgis Orange County NC.

This line now has solid proof to a SC connection. Any information on John S Rowntree would be greatly appreciated. If you know of or are connected to him please contact us at ginrounatcomcastdotnet. Remember to change the word at and dot to the correct form.

Thanks, Ginny

Re: Native American

AlishaELovern — 2007-09-30 11:58:36Z

Hello Sherry, My name is Alisha Lovern and I was wondering if you had any more information on Inez Lovern. My family is from the Kansas area and think there may be some Native American Connection as well. I am having such a hard time locating any information about my family before 1880.

Thank you!

Re: Family Tree plea

DaleKersey51 — 2008-01-09 00:54:35Z

Thanks for the reply and your thoughts on what you have found from reading this book. I havn't got all the way through it, yet! I will keep you comments and try and register some of mine. Yea, some coindience, isn't it!

Dale

Re: Family Tree plea

DaleKersey51 — 2008-01-06 23:46:59Z

Fred, have you read the book Rowntree and Rountree Family History 1521 -1953? Here is the site below. Beware, it's some 140 pages but a lot of sources. Good Luck! and, Please share if you find anything.
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/FH6...

Re: Roundtree

BettyHorne11 — 2008-04-26 16:53:19Z

Rose pls let me know the Rountrees you are searching. I decend from Jesse Rountree of NC through his d. Prussia Ann Rountree who m. Jordon Leggett of Robeson Co., NC. They and Jordans four brothers moved to Georgia from NC. They were known in Ga as the Robeson Five. All sons of John Legat or Legget. They used name LEGGETT.

Betty

Re: Jesse Roundtree Maybe NC

fallnanjel_1 — 2007-02-22 23:51:12Z

Hi:

I saw your offer and would like to ask you about my great-grandmother, Virginia (Jennie) Roundtree. I think she was born 1861/1865. She married Andrew Owens and lived in Texas and Oklahoma. I'm sure about Texas but not about Oklahoma. Her father was born in South Carolina and her mother in Alabama. She also married her son, William A. Owens' father in law, Jesse Springer in Arkansas. She was living with my grandmother, Sarah Owens, and my grandfather, William Owens during 1910 and 1920 in Oklahoma.
If you have any information, would you be willing to share with me? I would sincerely appreciate it.

Thank you,
Patricia Brown

fallnanjel@msn.com

Re: Jesse Roundtree Maybe NC

fallnanjel_1 — 2007-02-22 23:50:00Z

Photos_Roundtree/Rountree

dderen0124 — 2007-02-07 20:29:24Z

Does anyone have a photo of a Roundtree/Rountree ancestor in their military uniforms (whatever they might have been?) I am looking for photos first, then will see where or if they fit into my family lines (extensive!). My son just joined the Air Force, and I would like to present him with photos of past ancestors as far as I can go! Thanks in advance!

Re: Roundtree

rose_sinclair — 2006-12-07 03:32:45Z

There was a Jesse Roundtree listed on an early census for the 1700's in Pitt Nc. He was a son of Francis who also owned land in Virginia.Some of these descendants came to Georgia. Are there any references to this in the Bible you have?

Re: Roundtree

rose_sinclair — 2006-12-07 03:27:26Z

Do you have any info on William? This could be connected to the line of Francis Roundtree or any of his sons. Is there a way to list all bible entries?

Rebecca Roundtree married Cyrus Sullivan

maryachtrh — 2006-11-03 23:01:54Z

Looking for family of Rebecca Roundtree born 1839 Arkansas died 1914 Texas married Cyrus Sullivan born 1832 Illinois died probably New Mexico.

Known children..

1.) James Lafayette born 1859 Texas
2.) Daniel Rice born August 1865 Texas married Christina and had the following children..Birdie May, Julia R. and William F.
3.) Emma born 12 March 1869 died 1960 Lampasas County, Texas married W. H. Green.
4.) George Melton born 1871 Texas died 1955 Bosque County, Texas
5.) Minnie Alice born 1874 Texas died 1961 Lampasas County, Texas
6.) Ada Laura born 1876 Texas died 1961 Lmapasas County, Texas married Jonathan S. Gibson and had the following children..Claud S., Joshua Sullivan, Minnie Joda and Page J.
7.) Patrick Ronzo born 1880 Texas died 1938 Tarrant County, Texas.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please contact me at machterhof@sbcglobal.net.

Re: Family Tree plea

DavidRountree1954 — 2008-01-06 00:20:37Z

Fred,
I have tried desperately to trace down the source of this information, and it simply doesn't exist to my knowledge. From what I can tell, there were Rountree's in York but that is all I can confirm

Re: Jesse Roundtree Maybe NC

valeriedeberry1 — 2008-02-18 18:31:35Z

I am just beginning the process of reasearching my family tree. My families surname is Roundtree and they are from Anderson, SC. My grandfather's name was Robert but everyone called him Polly. My grandmother, his wife, was named Lois. They moved from Anderson or Iva, SC to Bridgeport, Ct. in the 1930's. They are the African American Roundtrees. I would like to hear from anyone who may have known them or know of their familiy connections in SC. I had the pleasure of knowing my grandparents and was very close to them. I would like to hear from anyone who knows of this Roundtree connection. Thank you!

Re: Jesse Roundtree Maybe NC

valeriedeberry1 — 2008-02-18 18:30:01Z

I am just beginning the process of reasearching my family tree. My families surname is Roundtree ab=nd they are from Anderson, SC. My grandfather's name was Robert but everyone called him Polly. My grandmother, his wife, was named Lois. They moved from Anderson or Iva, SC to Bridgeport, Ct. in the 1930's. They are the African American Roundtrees. I would like to hear from anyone who may have known them or know of their familiy connections in SC. I had the pleasure of knowing my grandparents and was very close to them. I would like to hear from anyone who knows of this Roundtree connection. Thank you!

Re: Obit: Fay Edna Roundtree b 1897 Chewelah, WA d 1987 Roseburg, OR

nancyknut — 2007-10-04 19:00:55Z

I saw your message you posted on 2006.you listed a Surviving child Betty Weythman . I am wondering about her. My family comes originally from Myrtle Creek. I am wondering if Betty married a Weythman or was born a Weythman. I am related to the Charles J. weythman line.
Please let me know.

John J.

mygenes178 — 2006-06-24 02:57:46Z

Still researching the Kentucky lines. Just a new address. Please only genealogy, no spam or junk.

Re: Family Tree plea

Fred_Rowntree — 2008-01-06 19:14:09Z

David,

Thank you for replying. Yes, I am aware that the Rowntree/Rountree family came from Yorkshire; that was the 'tradition' in Armagh, Ireland, according to my father, who was born in Armagh. It was understood that my family came over from Yorkshire, to Armagh, around 1650.

Like you, and several other researchers, I have tried for a number of years to find the source of the tree from Moses to Frances. This is why I believe that a rogue genealogist tricked someone in the family, who had asked him to trace the family origins. It is well known that such people existed; as long as a tree was produced which satisfied the client and the genealogist got paid, that genealogist knew there was no way his work could be verified.

I will keep seeking information, but I feel it will effort wasted.

Fred

Re: Family Tree plea

Fred_Rowntree — 2008-01-06 19:04:55Z

Darlene,

I am sorry but I do not have any information on your Elizabeth.

Fred

Re: Family Tree plea

Fred_Rowntree — 2008-01-08 19:59:24Z

Dale,

Yes, I have read Joseph Gus's book,around five years ago. The LDS site has it on film and I ordered a permanent copy to be held in their London centre. I think it is a valuable contribution to our family history, but I do have some serious reservation about some of it.

The first five or so pages are virtual copies of a book by Charles Brightwen Rowntree, of Norfolk, England, the book being 'The Rowntrees of Risborough' first published in 1940.

As for the rest of the book, it is basically a collection of 'stories' from America, which Joseph then embellished somewhat. What is, however, missing, is the tree from Moses to Frances (sic). Now Joseph contacted many of the Rowntree/Rountree family in America, including those in Georgia, which is where, I believe, the so called tree originated. There is not one mention of it by Joseph and remember his book was published in 1959. The 1521 date in the title comes from the first date mentioned in Charles Brightwen's book, this being the earliest date that Charles had found a mention of the name. However, we now know that the earliest mention, that I, and others, have found, is in 1301, of a Robto Rountre, in Yorkshire, England. I have photographed the original document in the National Archives, in England.

Joseph does speculate about the member of the family that went to Ireland and suggests that it could be Francis Rowntree, who had land in Yorkshire in the 17th. century. I think that this was the starting point of the 'rogue' tree, as Frances (sic) appears in that as the grandfather of the NC Thomas Rountree.

Frances, of course, is a girl's name, and the above Francis had, among his children, Francis (a boy) and Frances (a girl). Unfortunately, the boy died around the age of 3. I think whoever dreamed up the tree didn't realise Frances was a girl and used the name. However the Quaker registers clearly show her as a girl.

As I said, Joseph's book was published in 1959. As far as I can ascertain the Moses to Frances tree first surfaced in the early 1960s. A coincidence?

Fred

Family Tree plea

Fred_Rowntree — 2008-01-01 21:01:56Z

Can I, once again, make a New Year plea, please? I know there is no very much hope, as I have not received an answer over the past couple of years, but I don't want to give up.

I, and I would think lots of other members of our family, would very much like to find the original source(s) of the family tree of the Rowntree/Rountree/Roundtree family from Moses Rowntree (b.1550) through William, Joseph and John, to Frances (sic) Rountree (b. 1649).

The earliest that I have been able to find when this tree first appears was in 1963, in a book (The family of Ebenezer Durden Rountree) by W.E.Rountree, without any references, and similar information was sent to the Mormon Church, for their records, by Frances La Merle Cochrane in the 1970s.

La Merle Cochrane’s notes said that the information was gathered by I.W.Rountree (d. 1979), of Swainsboro, Georgia, during a visit to the British Isles. A nephew of I.W. told me that I.W. never visited the British Isles, and the nephew did not know of any references for the tree. W.E.Rountree, who was I.W.Rountree’s son, never acknowledged my letters.

If any one of the Rountree/Rowntree/Roundtree family, or any one else, does know where the data originated, e.g. in a family bible or church records, will they please let me know. I am sure that there are many family members who have this tree in their genealogy and they would like to believe that it was based on solid records, rather than some possible guess work by person(s) unknown, or even the false work of a rogue genealogist. I will not include it in mine unless the sources can be shown to be valid.

Thank you.

Fred Rowntree

Family tree

Fred_Rowntree — 2007-01-02 20:07:46Z

Can I make a repeated New Year plea, please?

I, and I would think lots of other members of our family, would very much like to find the original source(s) of the family tree of the Rowntree/Rountree/Roundtree family from Moses Rowntree (b.1550) through William, Joseph and John, to Frances (sic) Rountree (b. 1649).

The earliest that I have been able to find when this tree first appears was in 1963, in a book (The family of Ebeneezer Durden Rountree) by W.E.Rountree , without any references, and similar information was sent to the Mormon Church, for their records, by Frances La Merle Cochrane in the 1970s.

La Merle Cochrane’s notes said that the information was gathered by I.W.Rountree (d. 1979), of Swainsboro, Georgia, during a visit to the British Isles. A nephew of I.W. told me that I.W. never visited the British Isles, but had no references for the tree. W.E.Rountree, who was I.W.Rountree’s son, never acknowledged my letters.

If any one of the Rountree/Rowntree/Roundtree family does know where the data originated, e.g. in a family bible or church records, will they please let me know. I am sure that there are many family members who have this tree in their genealogy and they would like to believe that it was based on solid records, rather than some possible guess work by person(s) unknown, or even the work of a rogue genealogist. I will not include it in mine unless the sources can be shown to be valid.

Thank you.

Fred Rowntree

Emily Roundtree Clark

KarenS70 — 2006-09-23 00:19:23Z

I have learned that the niece of my ancestor had the middle name Roundtree and I don’t know why.

Emily Roundtree Clark was born October 31, 1833 in Pulaski County, Kentucky and died January 22, 1901 in Christian County, Missouri. On August 27, 1851 in Montgomery County, Illinois she married Ezra Thomas Bostick.

Emily’s parents were Allison or Allenson Clark and Margaret Reid of Pulaski County, Kentucky. Allenson is probably the son of John C. and Rachel Clark and they probably lived in Warren County, Tennessee for several years.

Trying to solve the puzzle of “Who is John C. Clark.” He was born between 1780 and 1790 and died December 29, 1837 in Montgomery County, Illinois.

Karen
Illinois

Turner Richardson Roundtree (1795-1868)

JohnRichardson35 — 2006-06-25 01:38:39Z

David, email me at jrichard@edge.net and I will send you a picture of Turner Richardson Roundtree and his wife, Mary Adeline Ferguson. T R Roundtree is buried in the old Boistfort Cemetery about 15 miles from Chehalis, Lewis Co., WA. His wife should be also but the gravestones were all removed by the farmer who owned the land who then plowed it up for crops. email and I have muchmore for you.