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SALE William H 1872-1941

t42MountOlivet — 2009-10-26 15:56:46Z

SALE William H 1872-1941

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SALE Margaret S 1875-1946

t42MountOlivet — 2009-10-26 15:56:36Z

SALE Margaret S 1875-1946

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AMHERST CO., VA Mary Sale who married Curtis Cross

duncan105 — 2009-10-09 21:22:14Z

I am looking for parents of Mary Sale who m. Curtis Cross (b. 23 June 1815, d. 23 Sep 1881) on 21 Aug 1838 poss Amherst Co., VA? Their children were Elmira, John and Agnes Cornelia all believed to have been born in Amherst Co., VA. My ancestry subsc expires soon. Please reply to kdkantorik@verizon.net Thanks! Kimberly

Re: Sale & Brooke 1700s Essex Co. VA

genealogy126126 — 2009-09-08 19:27:05Z

7 Sept 2009
Cal Sale added this ancestry:
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Some comments about Thomas Sale and Mollie Brooke-Sale.

First, Mollie did not marry Thomas Sale until after 1736 when her fathers will was written listing her as Mollie Brooke. This is how it is spelled in Robert Brooke's will. No mention of Thomas Sale. She was a minor at that point giving her a birthdate of between 1715 and 1736.

Second, the information about Mollie Brooke's death date is apparently erroneous. There is a lot of bad information on Familysearch .org. Deed records from 1788 list Thomas Sale and wife.

Third, Will Book 14, p.175, the will of Thomas Sale, he lists his wife, Molly. This is how it is spelled in the will. He lists his son Humphrey and daughters Susanna and Mary. Susanna is married to Alexander Saunders at this time, but they have no children as of the date of the will. Dated 4 December 1789. Probated, 18 June 1790. However, it should be noted that it was the January Court that issued the order for the appraisement of the Estate of Thomas Sale and therefore he died between 4 December and the January court which probably met beginning around the 10th to the 20th of January. I will have to verify this...

Lastly, I have set a birthdate for Thomas Sale of about 1716. This is based on the fact that he and his brother John were the last siblings surviving. John was born on Feb 24, 1717/1718.

More later.

Cal Sale

Sale & Brooke 1700s Essex Co. VA

genealogy126126 — 2009-09-03 18:29:07Z

3 sept 2009
THANKS for all the colonial VA info. on Sale and Brooke family that y'all posted!

this morning I was able to find your information on Sale surname board at rootsweb.com and on Brooke surname board
So after those improvements, I am posting what I could find so far at
(in hopes that you and others will make more corrections)
Thanks again,
Warren Forsythe, compiler of database moseley1
my best contact for these families: genealogy171 (at) FAIRPOINT.net
specific site
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&d...
where it currently says:
1. Lucy Brooke SAUNDERS was born 24 JAN 1793 in ,,VA, and died AFT 1821. She was the daughter of 2. Alexander SAUNDERS and 3. Susannah Susan Susanna SALE. She married Allan Allen Alan MCRAE, son of Christopher Rev. MCRAE. He was born 9 SEP 1785 in probably either,Cumberland,VA,Powhatan, and died AFT 1821.

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2. Alexander SAUNDERS was born ABT 1740 in Farnham Parish,,VA, and died ABT 1793 in probably,,VA.

3. Susannah Susan Susanna SALE was born ABT 1755 in of,Essex,VA,John's1749Susan?, and died 31 MAY 1820 in Manchester,Chesterfield,VA,one assertion. She was the daughter of 6. Thomas SALE and 7. Mollie Molly Mary BROOKE.

Child of Susannah Susan Susanna SALE and Alexander SAUNDERS is:

1. i. Lucy Brooke SAUNDERS was born 24 JAN 1793 in ,,VA, and died AFT 1821. She married Allan Allen Alan MCRAE, son of Christopher Rev. MCRAE. He was born 9 SEP 1785 in probably either,Cumberland,VA,Powhatan, and died AFT 1821.

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6. Thomas SALE was born ABT 1706 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died ABT 1789. He was the son of 12. Cornelius Sr. SALE and 13. Mary SAMUEL.

7. Mollie Molly Mary BROOKE was born ABT 1713 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died BEF 20 DEC 1748 in St Ann's Parish,Essex,VA,28Feb1738aserted. She was the daughter of 14. Robert KnightGldHorshoe Jr. BROOKE and 15. Phoebe Phebe SALE.

Children of Mollie Molly Mary BROOKE and Thomas SALE are:

3. i. Susannah Susan Susanna SALE was born ABT 1755 in of,Essex,VA,John's1749Susan?, and died 31 MAY 1820 in Manchester,Chesterfield,VA,one assertion. She married Alexander SAUNDERS ABT 1761 in probably,Essex,VA. He was born ABT 1740 in Farnham Parish,,VA, and died ABT 1793 in probably,,VA. She married "a_Major" Fowles FOWLER ABT 1794 in probably,,VA. He was born ABT 1740 in probably,,VA, and died BEF 1800 in probably,,VA. She married "a_Major" Fowler FOWLES ABT 1794 in probably,,VA. He was born ABT 1740 in probably,,VA, and died BEF 1800 in probably,,VA. She married Edward MOSELEY ABT 1795 in ,Richmond Court,VA, son of Francis (according_to Warren_Forsythe) MOSELEY and Martha WATKINS. He was born BEF 1751 in possibly,Chesterfield,VA, and died BEF 9 JAN 1815 in Will Bk 8:289-91,Chesterfield,VA.
ii. Humphrey SALE was born ABT 1760 in of,Essex,VA, and died AFT 1812 in "Millwood" area,Caroline,VA.

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12. Cornelius Sr. SALE was born ABT 1675 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died JAN 1741 in of Champlain,Essex,VA,Nr Rev Robt Rose. He was buried 3 FEB 1741 in Champlain area,Essex,VA,by Rev Robt Rose.

13. Mary SAMUEL was born ABT 1685 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA.

Child of Mary SAMUEL and Cornelius Sr. SALE is:

6. i. Thomas SALE was born ABT 1706 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died ABT 1789. He married Mollie Molly Mary BROOKE ABT 1742 in probably,Essex,VA,~1740:SheWidowed, daughter of Robert KnightGldHorshoe Jr. BROOKE and Phoebe Phebe SALE. She was born ABT 1713 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died BEF 20 DEC 1748 in St Ann's Parish,Essex,VA,28Feb1738aserted.

14. Robert KnightGldHorshoe Jr. BROOKE was born ABT 1689 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died ABT JAN 1744 in St Ann's Parish,Essex,VA.

15. Phoebe Phebe SALE was born ABT 1700 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA.

Child of Phoebe Phebe SALE and Robert KnightGldHorshoe Jr. BROOKE is:

7. i. Mollie Molly Mary BROOKE was born ABT 1713 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died BEF 20 DEC 1748 in St Ann's Parish,Essex,VA,28Feb1738aserted. She married Thomas SALE ABT 1742 in probably,Essex,VA,~1740:SheWidowed, son of Cornelius Sr. SALE and Mary SAMUEL. He was born ABT 1706 in of St Ann's Par.,Essex,VA, and died ABT 1789.

Re: Paul L. Sale family- AZ

jamialyn — 2009-08-17 18:24:57Z

hi. I sent you a note a little earlier today. I ran across another one of your posts in my search for info on Ferd Taylor. I will forward your message on to my grandmother in AZ. Ferd and (Cora) Effie are her grandparents. Maybe she can remember her aunt Margaret. Margaret's brother, John W. Taylor(1895-1962)married Marie Griffin(1900-1982). They also migrated to the Mesa/Tempe area of AZ sometime prior to 1922. They had two daughters, Madge Catherine Taylor (my grandmother, still living) and Fairy Ann Taylor (deceased), named after John & Margaret's sister (Fairy). I am really interested in getting more info on the parents and grandparents of Ferdinando E. Taylor b.1865 KY.

Re: John Sale b. abt 1537 of Bucks, England

patriciaann_hughes — 2009-08-04 15:07:39Z

my grandfather - john sales b-1874 - overseal linton derbyshire -his father-william sales -mothers name not know
john sales- married emiy beatrice cowen
from riddings derbyshire nov 27-1898 -she died 17-oct-1907 in mansfild woodhouse notts where they moved to. and in 1897 they had a son john charles born battersea london ,i know she had family that moved to battersea from riddings derby her father charles cowen was a school head master. her husband john was in the grenadier guards. mybe she stayed with her perents for the birth wilst he was in the army.(what i need his johns mothers name ) i hope this info is of any help to anyone .would like to hear from you if we are researching same familys

Re: Cornelius Sale of Essex County, Virginia

CalSale — 2009-06-27 08:59:56Z

In a previous post I had stated that I thought that Sale's Church had stood until the new church was built, however; later research revealed that the church had indeed been torn down between 1843 and 1855. The 1855 processioners return has no mention of Sale's Church in it. Previous returns had mentioned the church in relation to other property owners in the area.

Re: Sale from Barrow, Suffolk, England

John_Brine — 2009-06-07 12:57:42Z

Hi David, i don't know if you will get this message, as you posted it in 2005, but my Sale relatives come from Barrow, Suffolk.
I have gone back to James(b=1796,Dalham) and Mary(b=1791, Barrow)Sale. The next few generations were all born in Barrow, Suffolk.
Please let me know if you are also related through them
Amie Brine

Re: Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

annbanks50 — 2009-05-06 13:45:07Z

Hi Ian, hmm, not sure at the moment if our Sales are related. Our John Wade Clinton Sale was born to (we believe) to John Bernard Sale (b.1779) and Ann (no surname or birth date at present). John Bernard Sale had 3 other children: Mary Ann Sale b 1804; Lydia Sophia Sale b 1806; and Laura Sale born about 1807. John Bernard Sale and his Father and Grandfather were all young choristers who became lay vicars at St. George's Chapel Windsor, Westminster Abbbey, and the Chapel Royal. John Bernard Sale was also an organist at the Chapel Royal. John Bernard also became the Musical Instructor to the Princess Victoria in 1826. So John Wade's father, grandfather and great grandfather all had strong connections with the church. His grandfather John Sale was also an Almoner and master of choristers at St. Paul's Cathedral and his funeral took place at St. Paul's. They were a very musical family! But having said all that, until we can find for sure our John Wade Clinton Sale's birth record, we are not sure. But still maybe there is some connection with your Sales through a brother, as early this year we found another child that was missing from the family tree.

I'll pass all this information onto my brother and sister-in-law who are researching the tree as well, I'm sure my brother who has also put messages on the Ancestry Site (he is a Clinton) will have had these message alerts from you through ancestry.

Thanks again for replying, I will let you know how our research is going and keep in touch, Thanks.

Re: Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

iansale — 2009-05-06 12:57:06Z

Hi - James and his household lived in Hammersmith for many years - Weiltje Road. He reached the age of 82, dying in 1919; not sure about Frances (Reeve), but she was still alive in 1911; James was born in Chelsea 1836, son of John James Sale and Mary Eliza Beamish; John was born in Stepney, but lived for some time in Ealing; he was the son of John Sale and Mary Barden, about whom I know almost nothing; James' children were Fanny, Helen, James,Kate, Alice, Edith and Harold; James had a sister Eliza Eleanor who married a John Beamish.
Not a very fertile family - some of the women were spinsters, the younger James went to Melbourne in 1910; Harold had 2 marriages, one child by each - I'm a descendant from his second effort, and like the younger James, also in Australia - but no idea what happened to the younger James.

regards

Ian

Re: Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

annbanks50 — 2009-05-06 12:28:54Z

Hi Ian. Yes. We are trying to find the birthplace and date of birth of our Great Grandfather John Wade Clinton Sale, born we believe between 1804-1811, he is the son (we believe) of John Bernard Sale and Ann. John Wade married a Caroline Rogers in 1851, unfortunately he dropped the name of Sale at some point in time and called himself John Wade Clinton, and his children were all given the Clinton surname. We know that his sisters were baptised in Middlesex and are in the process of looking at all the parish records in London Middlesex along with Census records, there isn't a mention of a James Christopher Sale on the records we have so far but he could be a cousin or a member of the Sale family we have'nt unearthed yet. Or maybe he was married twice. Do you know if Frances Sale - James' wife's death date?

Thanks for getting back - and please keep in touch. Because this is all proving very interesting.

Re: Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

iansale — 2009-05-05 13:10:40Z

Hi - I noticed that you are doing something of a one name study of Sale. My forebears lived in Middlesex, at least for a while. James Christopher Sale (b 31/5/1836, son of John Sale) and wife Frances (nee Reeve) lived in Brentford, then Hammersmith. A number of children - youngest was Harold, my PGF, who married Maud Burton Norwood, one daughter Kathleen in 1906; he then married (or partnered) again c 1920 to Lilian. Have not, to date, been able to find out what happened to Maud or Kathleen.
An older brother of Harold, James Christopher, left England 1910 to go to Melbourne - not sure what happened to him then.
Happy to provide more info

Looking for the book:The life of Charles " Chic " Sale:by Marie Bishop Sale

48th-il — 2009-03-23 18:00:12Z

I'm searching for a copy of the book The life of Charles " Chic " Sale: by his wife Marie Bishop Sale. It was published in 1981 by C.S Brown publishing. I would appreciate any help I could get.

Thank you
Don Aikman

Re: Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

LewisSale — 2009-03-14 13:05:38Z

Hello

I have been looking at your Sale postings and the family tree attached to them.

I have been doing a one name study of SALE and variants for some time but am a long way from being an expert on this. I have a record of your grandmother Ethel Violet SALE's birth being registered in December quarter of 1907 indicating a birth date of 20 November 1907 (not 1908) in your tree.
I have a Tom Sale marrying an Alice WATKINS in St Mary Magdalene Church at Holloway in Islington on 21 May 1899; he 26 a Labourer of 5 Chapman's Cottages Willesden; she 24 of 29 Ringcroft Street the daughter of Edmund Evered WATKINS.
This Tom I think died at 71a Southfields Road Chiswick on 18 JUNE 1951 and Alice died in Hastings in March quarter 1963 (4 January )
Tom was born in Barrow but to Thomas and Mary Ann (WISEMAN) and is a different individaul to the Frederick Thomas born in 1877 to Arthur James and Maria (CRACK)

As far as I know they had three daughters and 1 son.
1 Alice Margaret b 1899 married Frederick YELLAND in Brentford RD Jun qtr 1928
2 Your grandmother Ethel Violet
3 Florence Mary b 1910 married a Mr HARRIS in Brentford RD Sep qtr 1925
4 Thomas E b 1914 married Ivy E LITTLE in Brentford RD Sep qtr 1942

Is this the same family as yours please. I appreciate you are doing the BALL line mainly but confirmation, one way or the other, would help me greatly.

Thank you

Re: John Robert SALE

Rboulden1972 — 2009-03-06 23:02:26Z

Hello Patrick - My Grandmother was Selina Sale and she had brothers called Dick (Richard) and Bob (Robert) Her mother was born Selina Shellard who married John Sale and subsequently married John Parsons. I believe there was a connection with Milwaulkee as my grandmother used to get the most beautiful Christmas cards from the USA in the 1950's when I was a kid. I never established, or even thought about, a connection at that age.
We lived in Bristol in a suburb called Shirehampton. My grandmother, Selina, had sisters called Nellie and Daisy. I am the daughter of one of Selina's daughters - Frances.
I hope this is of help to you - after such a long time.
With very best wishes - Ros Boulden (Email - Rboulden @aol.com

JACKSON Jessie Mae SALE RUTLEDGE WILLIAMS

t42CrownHill — 2009-02-13 13:52:21Z

JACKSON Jessie Mae SALE RUTLEDGE WILLIAMS

I photographed this gravestone in the Crown Hill Memorial Cemetery, Dallas, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 201,088 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

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Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

PaulGottschalk54 — 2009-02-09 17:37:06Z

Cal- I was able to find the 50+ year old typed copy of the inscriptions in the Sale bible. The distant Campbell cousin to whom I referred in my prior posting,in a letter from Lynchburg dated 1/16/1955says,"I am enclosing a copy of our copy of the record from the Sale Bible."
"Record out of the Old Sale Bible
John, son of Anthony Sale by Anne, his wife, was born on Monday, the 30th day of December,1730.
Frances, daughter of Philip Sanders and Mary, his wife, was born the 27th day of November, 1740.
John Sale and Frances were married December 31st, 1762.
Molly, daughter of John Sale and Frances, his wife, was born on Saturday, January 28th, 1764.
Anthony, son of John Sale and Frances, his wife, was born on Sunday, Oct. 31,1765.
Thomas, son of John Sale and Frances, his wife, was born on the 3rd of November, 1767.
John, son of John Sale and Frances, his wife, was born on Monday,April 24, 1769.
Anne, daughter of John Sale and Frances, his wife was born on Friday, April 5th,1772.
Cornelius, son of John Sale and Frances,his wife,was born on Monday, March 29,1773.
Samuel, son of John Sale and Frances, his wife,was born on March 24,1776.
Elizabeth, daughter of John Sale and Frances, his wife was born on Saturday, February 7th,1778.
Alexander, son of John Sale and Frances, his wife,was born on Saturday,6th of May,1780.
Robert, son of John Sale and Frances his wife, was born Tuesday, February 3rd,1784.
Martha, daughter of John Sale and Frances, his wife,was born Sunday, May 18th, 1788."
I hope this will be helpful. I wonder if you know much about the Sanders family beyond Philip. Paul Gottschalk

Re: Pleasant Allen Sale b.1864 in Parke Co, Indiana

EarlJerryWoodin — 2008-09-28 16:32:00Z

I am not a direct descendant of Pleasant Allen but of his Uncle Pleasant H.(possibly Hawkins) 1842 - 1905 also born in Parke County. I have enjoyed information on your family and have tried to incorporate in in to our history.

David Parke Sale

Shabibi1 — 2008-08-17 17:31:15Z

I am looking for the grave or information on the final resting place of my great great grand father, David Parke Sale, he did in 1880's in Plainsville Nebraska area. Anthing anyone can tell me would be great....

George W Sales & Annie Carroll

UptonOK — 2008-06-03 04:37:24Z

Looking for the marriage date and place for George Washington Sales brn 2-23-1871 Sebastian cty, Arkansas and Annie Carroll brn 11-19- 1879 Texas

Re: Pleasant Allen Sale b.1864 in Parke Co, Indiana

cmposey60 — 2008-01-21 07:35:07Z

My Grandmother was Rose Sale daughter of Thomas B. Sale. I would like to share infomation on our family

Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

Neal_ball — 2009-02-01 17:29:16Z

My Grandmother (Ethel Violet Sale b. 1907) was born in Acton, Middlesex. Gt Grandfather lived in Willesden north London (1901 Census)with his wife (Thomas and Alice Sale) he was working on the LNWR as a Railway Labourer.

Thomas was born @1872, with Alice @1876 (She was born in Kentish Town)

Turns out Thomas Sale was Frederick Thomas Sale and came from Barrow in Suffolk.

His parents were Arthur Sale and Maria both b. 1848

As far as I am aware there is no connection to the USA.

I have only just started on this side of teh family, so would welcome any comments / common people.
Thanks, Neal

Re: Need information on Granville T Sale and Mary Sale m. Curtis Cross

CalSale3180 — 2007-11-27 23:40:31Z

Additional information on where Granville S. Sale is buried. Wares Gap Road is an unpaved road off of Route 635.

The grave is located 11 paces off the the road at an AEP Power pole. The poles are numbered and the number is 1016-64.

This and the other information that I posted is verified by Granville and Susan Sale's pension records.

Re: Need information on Granville T Sale and Mary Sale m. Curtis Cross

CalSale3180 — 2007-11-23 23:32:05Z

Remember, there are two Granville Sale's. One is Granville Thomas Sale the other is Granville S. Sale. Both were born to Benjamin Sale's. Granville S. Sale was the son of Benjamin Sale and Mary Lane. Granville Thomas Sale was the son of Benjamin Sale and a Frances J. LNU.

The irony is that Benjamin Sale who married Frances was the grand nephew of Benjamin and Mary Sale.

Benjamin who married Frances was the son of James and Alice Sale. Both James and Alice were niece and nephew of Benjamin. Alice being the daughter of John Sale and James was probably the son of Thomas Sale, Jr.. Benjamin, John and Thomas all were the sons of Thomas and Clara Sale.

James Sale and Alice, along with her siblings came to live with Benjamin in 1808 in Amherst County after John Sale died in 1807 in Caroline County and Thomas had also apparently died between 1798-1808. James and Alice were married in 1808 in Amherst County. James and Alice's first child was named Benjamin, probably to honor of there uncle who took them in.

Ganville Thomas Sale would rise to the rank of Lieutenant in the Civil War, while Granville S. Sale, who was a private would desert not once, but twice during the Civil War. We do know however, where Ganville S. Sale is buried. His grave is located off Route 635 and Wares Gap Road, Route 636, in Amherst County, Virginia. He was born Feb. 4, 1832 and died Sept. 9th, 1904. Granvile's father, Benjamin Franklin Sale was born 1776 in Caroline County and died November 9, 1859 in Amherst County, Virginia.

Granville S. Sale married first, Mary Frances Ann Ware on December 21, 1853 and Susan F. Morgan on December 15, 1864 in Amherst County Virginia.

Granville Thomas Sale moved to Halifax County Virginia and died there is August 26, 1905. Benjamin, whose son was Granville Thomas Sale was born 1813 in Amherst County and died 1893 in Amherst County, Virginia.

I invite comment.

Woodson P. Sale and Nancy Burks

ZorinaSale — 2008-02-20 05:54:00Z

Still trying to find out where these two came from and who their parents, etc. were. SOMEONE has to have seen them. They are on fag.com. Cannot find any new info past that.

Tero Sale of Caroline Co Va

oclarke11 — 2008-01-27 02:05:42Z

Need parents & siblings for Tero & his wife Dorothy Morgan. They were b abt 1880. Have the following children for them:
Forest Claude b abt 1917 marr Lula Corbin Eubank 25 Jun 1938. She was the dau of Robert Sample Eubank & Luvenia Howard.
Angeles b abt 1913 marr Wesley Carter 22 Feb 1930. Wesley was the son of Henry Clay Carter & unknown wife.
Vina b abt 1915 marr Lonnie Toombs 31 Jul 1934. Lonnie was the son of Jordan Toombs & Virginia Howard.
Ollie

Re: Dunn family relation to the Sale family

oclarke11 — 2008-01-27 01:43:13Z

Cal I am also working on the Sale & Dunn family. I have a William Dunn b abt 1740 in Essex. Have not been able to find out who his wife was. I have a dau Nancy Anne who marr Carter Croxton . Is this the William you are refering to in your query?
Ollie

Re: First wife Anthony Sale, son of Anthony

oclarke11 — 2008-01-27 00:27:59Z

Is the Anthony sale b Essex Co Va abt 1725? I have this Anthony as the son of Cornelius Sale Sr. & Mary Samuel who was the dau of Anthony Samuel Sr. & Ruth. I have not been able to sort the Sale family out & did not have a wife for this Anthony.
Ollie

Re: Rebecca Sells in TN, Kingsport, Bristol

BUNKY1947 — 2007-07-16 01:38:30Z

I have a Rebecca Jane Sells who married a John Henry Owen of Washington County TN (KingsPort). John and Rebecca had 12 children, one of which was Nicholas Fain Owen ( 23 Mar 1885 ).

John Henry Owen was born May 1862 & died 11 June 1944 in Mendota, Va. Rebecca Jane Sells was born Apr 1866 in Washington Co, TN and died 1934 in Bristol, TN. Rebecca Jane is said by the Owen Family to be Cherokee Indian (1/2) and her relatives were from the Quallah Boundary Reservation in Cherokee, N C.

Please contact me @ Zopelote@AOL.COM

Hubert

Re: John Sale b. abt 1537 of Bucks, England

annbanks50 — 2009-02-02 10:56:52Z

Hi, Our family are researching Sales in England. We have a John Sale born 1666 in Nottingham his daughter was Elizabeth Sale born in 1692 Nottingham, this John Sale moved to Ireland with his daughter at some point as he was a Registrar in Dublin and Elizabeth married Richard Colley Wesley, their son was Garret Wesley, first Earl of Mornington, whose son Arthur Wellesley was The Duke of Wellington. Our Sales were from Lincolnshire, and London Westminster, working as Lay Vicars and Almoners and organists, at Lincolnshire Cathedral, Westminster Cathedral, Windsor - Royal Chapel and St. Paul's Cathedral, from 1766-67 onwards, apart from John Wade Clinton Sale who was born in 1811 and became an actor. Don't know if this ties up with any of your Sales

Re: Sale family in Middlesex and Suffolk, England

annbanks50 — 2009-02-02 10:18:22Z

Hi, thanks for replying to my message. Our Sale family hail from Lincolnshire starting 1716 and then move to London - Westminster in 1766/67. These are John Sale and Alice, married 1746, his son John Sale born 1758 London married Mary Mudy? 1778 Westminster, John Bernard Sale born Windsor 1779 married Ann (not got date), and a John Wade Clinton Sale born 1811 Rochester Kent. All of the Johns' were Lay-Vicars at Westminster (St. George's Chapel), Windsor and Eton, Westminster Abbey and the Chapel Royal, apart from our John Wade Clinton Sale who became an actor. Not sure if these are any relation to your Sales. If you do find any of them are please could you let me know.

Thanks again annbanks50

Re: Need information on Granville T Sale and Mary Sale m. Curtis Cross

Gayle689 — 2007-11-22 00:34:02Z

Hi. Take a look at this and see if this is the Granville Sale you are talking about. If this is accurate, I have information on the Morgan's. Susan F. Sale asked for pension on Granville in 1902. Let me know. Thanks Gayle

Descendants of Benjamin Sale

Generation No. 1

1. BENJAMIN1 SALE was born 1779 in Virginia. He married POLLY LAYNE December 16, 1812 in Virginia, daughter of LITTLEBERRY LAYNE and MARY SANDRIDGE. She was born Abt. 1789.

Notes for BENJAMIN SALE:
Source: Julia Phillips (Layne cousin) Florida residence

Child of BENJAMIN SALE and POLLY LAYNE is:
2. i. GRANVILLE2 SALE, b. February 1831, Virginia; d. Bef. 1910, Virginia.

Generation No. 2

2. GRANVILLE2 SALE (BENJAMIN1) was born February 1831 in Virginia, and died Bef. 1910 in Virginia. He married SUSAN F. MORGAN Abt. 1855 in Virginia, daughter of DANIEL MORGAN and FRANCES AKERS. She was born February 10, 1841 in Lynchburg, Virginia, and died Aft. 1910 in Virginia.

Notes for GRANVILLE SALE:
Source: 1880 Federal Census

Notes for SUSAN F. MORGAN:
Source: Mattie May Ramsey Reavis.....She had auburn hair.

Children of GRANVILLE SALE and SUSAN MORGAN are:
i. LAWRENCE3 SALE, b. 1856, Virginia.
ii. ELON D. SALE, b. 1862, Virginia.
iii. MARIE (MARY) F. SALE, b. December 1866, Virginia.
iv. BETTIE D. SALE, b. 1869, Virginia.
v. ANNIE SALE, b. 1872, Virginia.
3. vi. EDWARD DANIEL SALE, b. November 03, 1874, Virginia.
vii. WILLIAM SALE, b. 1877, Virginia.
4. viii. TIPTON GORDON SALE, b. February 24, 1879, Amherst, Virginia; d. Aft. 1930, Virginia.

Generation No. 3

3. EDWARD DANIEL3 SALE (GRANVILLE2, BENJAMIN1) was born November 03, 1874 in Virginia. He married VERDIE L. 1896 in Virginia. She was born in Virginia.

Notes for EDWARD DANIEL SALE:
WWI Registration
Verdie L. Sale is wife
farmer at same address as Tipton
RFD 2 Sandiges, Amhurst Virginia
medium height, medium build, blue eyes, gray hair

1920 Federal Census living on Swan Hill Road Temperance District, Amherst Virginia
Carroll Stimmett living in household as Nephew
Next HH is Stimmett, (Stinnett?) Gordon 26
Mable wife 18
Louise Daughter, 8

Children of EDWARD SALE and VERDIE L. are:
i. EMMETT L.4 SALE, b. 1903, Virginia.
ii. ELSIE B. SALE, b. 1907, Virginia.
iii. GRACIE E. SALE, b. 1910, Virginia.
iv. FOREST E. SALE, b. 1912, Virginia.
v. CORRINE SALE, b. 1917, Virginia.
vi. SUSIE SALE, b. 1918, Virginia.
5. vii. OSCAR M. SALES, b. 1900, Virginia.

4. TIPTON GORDON3 SALE (GRANVILLE2, BENJAMIN1) was born February 24, 1879 in Amherst, Virginia, and died Aft. 1930 in Virginia. He married LUTIE BELLE DODD 1903 in Virginia, daughter of EDWARD P. DODD. She was born 1880 in Virginia, and died Bef. 1930 in Virginia.

Notes for TIPTON GORDON SALE:
1910 Federal Census
Tipton, Lutie and children in HH with Susan F. She is 68 and widowed
living in Amherst, Peddlar district

WWI Registration
Lutie Belle is wife Tipton is a farmer in Amherst Viriginia,
Short in height, medium build, blue eyes, brown hair
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Source: 1920 Federal Census
Home in 1920: Pedlar, Amherst, Virginia
Image: 245
Household
Tip G Sales 40 head VA
Ludia B Sales 38
James E Sales 15
Jessie M Sales 13
Sallie L Sales 10
Tipton G Sales 8
Stella I Sales 6
Virginia M Sales 5
Susan F Sales 4
Percy G Sales 4/12

Notes for LUTIE BELLE DODD:
On WWI registration for Tipton, it is Lutie Belle
On 1910 Federal Census, it is Lutie D.
Could be error on census taker??

Children of TIPTON SALE and LUTIE DODD are:
i. JAMES E.4 SALE, b. 1904, Virginia.
ii. MORGA J. SALE, b. 1907, Virginia.
iii. SALLIE L. SALE, b. 1909, Virginia.
iv. JESSE M. SALE, b. 1917, Virginia.
v. STELLA I. SALE, b. 1914, Virginia.
vi. VIRGINIA M. SALE, b. 1915, Amherst County, Pedlar District, Virginia.
vii. SUSAN F. SALE, b. 1916, Amherst, Virginia.
viii. PERRY G. SALE, b. 1919, Amherst, Virginia.
ix. TIPTON G. SALE, b. 1912, Amherst County, Pedlar District, Virginia.

Generation No. 4

5. OSCAR M.4 SALES (EDWARD DANIEL3 SALE, GRANVILLE2, BENJAMIN1) was born 1900 in Virginia. He married NETTIE LOIS STINNETT. She was born 1900 in Virginia.

Children of OSCAR SALES and NETTIE STINNETT are:
6. i. OLEON MYERS5 SALES, b. October 28, 1926, Amherst County, Pedlar District, Virginia; d. July 26, 2005, Lynchberg, Amherst, Virginia.
ii. EDNA M. SALES, b. 1921, Virginia.
iii. OSCAR JR. SALES, b. 1923, Virginia.
iv. ROY C. SALES, b. 1925, Virginia.
v. JEAN SALES, b. Virginia; m. HARRIS GARDNER.

Generation No. 5

6. OLEON MYERS5 SALES (OSCAR M.4, EDWARD DANIEL3 SALE, GRANVILLE2, BENJAMIN1) was born October 28, 1926 in Amherst County, Pedlar District, Virginia, and died July 26, 2005 in Lynchberg, Amherst, Virginia. He married IRIS ESTELLE KREGER.

Notes for OLEON MYERS SALES:
Oleon Myers Sales
Oleon Myers Sales, 78, loving husband and father, died Tuesday, July 26, 2005, at Lynchburg General Hospital. He was the husband of Iris Kreger Sales for 57 years.
Born Oct. 28, 1926, in Amherst County, he was a son of the late Oscar and Nettie Lois Stinnett Sale. He was a U.S. Army veteran having served as an M.P. in Iceland during the Korean War; was retired building and grounds supervisor for VDOT after 44 years and has been working for Reed’s Saw and Tool for the past 14 years.
He was a faithful member of Randolph Memorial Baptist Church for the past 47 years and loved his church and everyone in it. In 1962 he became a deacon and in 2001 was honored as a life deacon. He has been serving as chairman of ushers for a number of years.
He was preceded in death by a brother, Roy C. Sales.
In addition to his wife, he is survived by a daughter, Deborah Kay Sales Kirkland of Lynchburg; a son, Gary S. Sales and wife, Nancy, of Lynchburg; a brother, Oscar Sale Jr. of Dinwiddie; two sisters, Margaret E. Hendrick of Woodbridge, Mrs. Harris (Jean) Gardner of Madison Heights; three grandchildren, Matt H. Sales, Melissa D. Sales and Lindsay S. Kirkland; four aunts, Eleanor and husband, Warren Davis, Lyndell Sale, Corinne Coffey, Nell Sale, all of Amherst County; a number of loving nieces, nephews and cousins.
A funeral service will be held at 11 a.m. Thursday in Randolph Memorial Baptist Church by the Rev. Mark Beck officiating with burial to follow in Briarwood Memorial Park.
The family will receive friends from 6 to 8:30 p.m. today at Heritage Funeral Service.
Memorial contributions may be made to Randolph Memorial Baptist Church Organ Fund, 4246 S. Amherst Highway, Madison Heights, VA 24572.
Heritage Funeral Service and Crematory, 427 Graves Mill Road, (434) 239-2405, www.heritagefuneralandcremation.com.

More About OLEON MYERS SALES:
Burial: Briarwood Memorial Park, Lynchburg Virginia

Re: Need information on Granville T Sale and Mary Sale m. Curtis Cross

Gayle689 — 2007-12-08 14:16:17Z

PS: I don't think that was very clear. I am off the Daniel Morgan line, and Susan F. Morgan was his daughter. Daniel had a son John Henry Morgan, and John's daughter, Cornelia Morgan (Ramsey), was my Great Aunt Mattie's mother. I have a few photos of John Henry Morgan and his wife, if you would be interested in a scan of that.

Re: Need information on Granville T Sale and Mary Sale m. Curtis Cross

Gayle689 — 2007-12-08 14:09:18Z

Thanks so very much for the information. I am the Morgan line off Susan F. Morgan. There is one Census where Daniel Morgan is living with Susan and her husband Granville Sale. That is where I began, and I did see the pension records, but couldn't read them very well. I am searching for Daniel Morgan's parents. If you would like what I have on the Morgan line, feel free to ask. My Great Aunt Mattie Ramsey worked for years on the family history I have, when there were no computers to help. Thank you again, and if I didn't have something correct on what I posted, let me know.
Gayle

Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

PaulGottschalk54 — 2007-09-23 03:10:07Z

Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

PaulGottschalk54 — 2007-09-21 23:18:32Z

Cal- First, my connection. One of my maternal grandmothers is Mary Ellen Campbell. She is D/O George Washington Campbell, S/O John Sale Campbell, S/O Elizabeth Sale and Wiley Campbell.Elizabeth Sale is D/O John Sale. John
Sale Campbell migrated to KY in 1818, but maintained contact with his family in the Amherst Co., VA, area and , in fact, the two branches maintained some contact into the early 1950s at which time as a high school student, I visited with a distant Campbell cousin in VA with my parents.This individual was living on or near the original Campbell land. It was my impression that this land was part of the original Crown grant to John Sale for his colonial service. We were shown a grave on the land purported to be that of John Sale. This individual gave me the information from the inscription in the Sale bible to which you refer. I do not recall for sure, but I believe it was typed and was not a certified or a photo copy, but if it would be helpful, I can try to find find it in my "basement files". It started with: "John, son of Anthony Sale by Anne, his wife...", and, later,"Elizabeth, daughter of John Sale and Frances his wife, was born on Saturday, February 7th, 1778." At that time I was told that the bible was in the possession of Nell Sandridge, but we did not meet her.This Campbell cousin also gave me a copy of a compendium of Sale family information collected by a John W. Sale of Fort Wayne, IN in 1905.This describes John Sale's Colonial service and Revolutionay war sevice, some Sales on opposite sides in the Civil War and the family of Wiley Campbell and Elizabeth Sale in some detail.John Sale was one of my mother's supplementary DAR lines.

Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

PaulGottschalk54 — 2007-09-21 23:18:30Z

Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

PaulGottschalk54 — 2007-09-23 03:10:09Z

Seeking info on a George Sale m. Mary Ann Ryder

carsyng1979 — 2008-08-04 02:41:15Z

Seeking info on a Mary Ann Ryder (or Rider) and her husband George Sayles (or Sale or Sales). Mary was from the NJ area, possibly Brunswick. George was from either Massachussets or New Jersey. They had at least one child, an Edward Augustus Sayles b. 8 Jun 1852 in Shelbyville, KY (my line).

Any help appreciated!

R. A. Sale, Private 21st Alabama Infantry

Greg_Bova — 2008-05-11 14:23:30Z

I am seeking information on R. A. Sale, Private 21st Regiment Alabama Infantry who was captured at Mobile Bay in August 1864. He was imprisoned at Ship Island, Mississippi and died there on November 22, 1864 of Pneumonia at the age of 26 years.
I would like to know about his life before joining Company G. Where he lived and any family he may have had?
Confederate service records also list him as R. A. Sales, but all the information I currently have is based on R. A. Sale.
Many thanks,
Gregory Bova

Elizabeth Sale and Richard Clark

JohnClinton18 — 2009-01-14 00:31:55Z

Elizabeth Sale, daughter of John Sale 1734 -1802 (gentleman of the Chapel Royal) married Richard Clark in Datchet 1775.(details on Clark Music antiquary tree) I think I may have found her Birth details but cannot find anything about her death despite numerous searches. If anyone can help Please?

Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

Marolyn37 — 2009-02-07 18:43:09Z

I know that Lewis Campbell inherited the land of Cornelius Sale. He was also a trustee for Permelia Sale Floyd and her children. She was the wife of Samuel B Floyd. This would indicate that Permelia is of the immediate Sale line, but I cannot find her parents. Any help? M B Johnson

Jonh Sale

jpearce20 — 2007-10-11 22:19:15Z

I am looking to find any information regarding John Sale b.1851 Pancras London. He married Annie Molloy b.1857

I have been trying to trace his ancestry for over a year without any joy.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Julia Pearce

Re: Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

CalSale — 2007-09-22 04:41:53Z

Paul,

It would be great if you could find that information. You are right, Lewis Campbell inherited the original Sale land grant. As far as the grave goes, if it was John Sale's grave that would be something new that I haven't heard about. The grave of Cornelius Sale, his son, is supposed to be on the farm as well. That may be the grave you saw. However, they should all be buried in the same family graveyard, but no one to my knowledge has seen that grave or graveyard in recent year. It may have been destroyed.

I just yesterday posted another message about the true identity of Anthony Sale's wife. Anne. She was Anne Goode, daughter of John Goode and Anne Jones.

Thanks for the help. My email is kmikes1066@aol.com

First wife Anthony Sale, son of Anthony

CalSale — 2007-10-18 05:17:35Z

Does anyone have the maiden name of Sarah (Sally) Rennolds, who was the first wife of Anthony Sale, son of Anthony, son of Cornelius Sale? This was the Anthony who moved to Louisville, Kentucky in 1785. Sarah married first William Rennolds of Caroline County, Virginia.

Anthony's other wives were Agnes Hord and Mary Stewart. The Alexander history stated he was married three times and had nineteen children, which is correct if you and in all of the step children.

Anthony Sale Married Ann Goode, NOT Ann Bristow

CalSale — 2007-09-21 04:43:18Z

I wanted to post this today to try and put a stop to those who continue to perpetuate the erroneous information that Anthony Sale married Ann Bristow. The Seal and Sale families are two separate families who have, on occasion, been confused in court records in Essex, Richmond and Caroline Counties in Virginia. And here is the proof.

1742, March 15, Anthony Sale is administrator of the estate of John Goode in Essex County, Virginia.

1743, March 30, Anthony Sale and Thomas Parker are listed as administrators of the estate of John Goode on the appraisal of the estate by Elias Newton, William Taylor and Samuel Davis. Returned and recorded 17 May 1743.

1743, May 17, the division of the estate of John Goode as follows: Wife, Ann Jones-Goode to have received one third of the estate of John Goode. Thomas Parker, who is known to have married a daughter of John Goode, either a Sarah or Mildred Goode, also received one third of the estate. Anthony Sale, administrator, to receive the other third of the estate.

Also, Thomas Parker was made guardian of his son, Robert, this indicating this Sarah or Mildred was dead by May 1743.

1767, October 5, Robert Parker, (son of Thomas), and Robert Sale, (son of Anthony), enter into an agreement whereby the division of the estate of John Goode, deceased some years age, possessed of sundry slaves and left a widow, (Ann Jones-Goode)(who is since dead), and two daughters, (who are also dead), vitz: Ann Sale of whom the said Robert Sale is son and heir at law. Also, stating that Robert Parker is son and heir at law, (implying he is the heir of Thomas Parker and Sarah or Mildred Goode). Robert Parker to get the slaves named Milley, Sam, Patty, Jenny and Pheobe. Robert Sale to get George, Amy, Alice, Betty, Winny, Janney, and Andrew.

This shows that Anthony Sale Married Ann Goode, NOT Ann Bristow, who married Anthony Seal.

Anthony Sale had died by September, 1763, his eldest son, Robert, was summoned to the Courthouse to give testimony about the death and will in the month. He died in Caroline County after living his entire life in Essex County. This probably due to a boundary change between Essex, Caroline and King and Queen in 1762, which probably moved Anthony into Caroline County near Daniel's Mill, now White's Mill. However, Anthony deeded land to his son, Leonard on October 17, 1761 in Essex County, which could also indicate that he sold his land and moved in with other family members in Caroline County. Additional research will have to be done on this issue. Of course the will of Anthony has been lost due to the destruction of court records in Caroline County in the last year of the Civil War. His will was admitted to the court record in May 1784, being omitted from the record in 1763, and is lost to history.

Bible Record of John and Frances Sale, of Caroline and Amherst, Virginia

CalSale — 2007-08-10 04:54:37Z

Does anyone have a copy of the Campbell/Sale bible record that lists the family of John and Frances Sale back to Anthony and Ann Sale? This bible was last known to be in the possession of Nellie Campbell-Sandidge of Amherst, Virginia. She was married to Forrest Sandidge. She died in 1958.

Cal Sale

Re: Anthony Sale Married Ann Goode, NOT Ann Bristow

CalSale — 2008-01-02 20:51:12Z

Three corrections need to be made to this post. First, Thomas Parker did marry Sarah Goode. There was another Thomas Parker in the county that married a Mildred LNU. Second, Anthony was not moved into Caroline due to the boundry change in 1762. He evidently moved there of his on accord between 1760 and 1763 when he died. Lastly, Anthony deeded a slave named, London, to his son Leonard in 1761, not land.

Re: sarah clementine sale

RBrown1301 — 2008-01-01 03:48:33Z

Sharon,

Sarah Clementine Sale was my great-grandmother. She married Charles Monroe Patton. Please let me know if this is the same Sarah Sale you are researching. If so, I have a lot of information I would be happy to share.

Thanks,
Rhonda Brown