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SAYER (s) in Scotland

oakham61 — 2009-11-07 01:49:26Z

am still looking for Lionel Percy Sayer He has lead a colourful life and I would like to know where he died and fill in the missing years This is what I know so far
Lionel was born 1893 in Wales to Emmanuel and Sarah Sayer
In 1908 They are living in Doncaster with 3 other siblings
Also in 1908 Emmanuel is killed in a coaching accident
In 1909 Sarah marries again against the wishes of her famuly andthe family of Emmaunel
She marries Harry Carr and the family move to Lincolnshire
Lionel at this time joins the Navy per the 1911 census
In 1914 he is in the Army
Approx 1920 he marries Margaret Christie Gibson in Ireland The family moves to Scotland
Where he has two children Then approx 1922 Lionel Desets the Family and the army
I have found him on a ship using the name Leonard Percy Sayers In 1932 he marries again but never got a divorce from his first wife He used the name Lionel Percy Robson Sayers Used on the marriage certificate his uncles name as his fathers
From there the trail goes cold ..... I know the second marriage did not last as I found his 2nd wife married to some one else and she dies in 1945
I would love to know where he ended up with another family/children
PLease I have been searching for 10 plus years Thanks

Karen

Big Brick wall

oakham61 — 2009-11-07 01:40:15Z

I am still looking for Lionel Percy Sayer He has lead a colourful life and I would like to know where he died and fill in the missing years This is what I know so far
Lionel was born 1893 in Wales to Emmanuel and Sarah Robson Sayer
In 1908 They are living in Doncaster with 3 other siblings in 1908 Emmanuel is killed in a coaching accident
In 1909 Sarah marries again against the wishes of her famuly and the family of Emmaunel
She marries Harry Carr and the family move to Lincolnshire
Lionel at this time joins the Navy per the 1911 census
In 1914 he is in the Army
Approx 1920 he marries Margaret Christie Gibson in Ireland The family moves to Scotland
Where he has two children Then approx 1922 Lionel Deserts the Family and the army
I have found him on a ship using the name Leonard Percy Sayers In 1932 he marries again but never got a divorce from his first wife He used the name Lionel Percy Robson Sayers Used on the marriage certificate his uncles name as his fathers
From there the trail goes cold ..... I know the second marriage did not last as I found his 2nd wife married to some one else and she dies in 1945
I would love to know where he ended up with another family/children
Please I have been searching for 10 plus years Thanks

Karen

Brickwall

oakham61 — 2009-09-28 01:07:00Z

I am still looking for Lionel Percy Sayer He has lead a colourful life and I would like to know where he died and fill in the missing years This is what I know so far
Lionel was born 1893 in Wales to Emmanuel and Sarah Sayer
In 1908 They are living in Doncaster with 3 other siblings
Also in 1908 Emmanuel is killed in a coaching accident
In 1909 Sarah marries again against the wishes of her famuly andthe family of Emmaunel
She marries Harry Carr and the family move to Lincolnshire
Lionel at this time joins the Navy per the 1911 census
In 1914 he is in the Army
Approx 1920 he marries Margaret Christie Gibson in Ireland The family moves to Scotland
Where he has two children Then approx 1922 Lionel Desets the Family and the army
I have found him on a ship using the name Leonard Percy Sayers In 1932 he marries again but never got a divorce from his first wife He used the name Lionel Percy Robson Sayers Used on the marriage certificate his uncles name as his fathers
From there the trail goes cold ..... I know the second marriage did not last as I found his 2nd wife married to some one else and she dies in 1945
I would love to know where he ended up with another family/children
PLease I have been searching for 10 plus years Thanks

Karen

Jane Ann SAYER

Debergso — 2009-09-11 19:56:53Z

I am looking for any information regarding Jane Ann SAYER.

I have that she was born abt. 1849 in Crook, Durham, England. She married David CLOSE 1872 in Haile, Cumberland, ENGLAND. They have four children: David, John, Gertrude & Herbert.

Any information regarding her SAYER line would be appreciated. Thank you very much. Dee

SAYER family

annfor1 — 2009-08-04 19:42:58Z

George SAYER (b. Norwich) married Eliza Ann FREESTONE (b.Framlingham) Q4 1876 in St. Geo Han Sq. London. I am trying to trace their daughter b.1889 Elizabeth Eleanor; she seems to change her name at various times:Ella Elizabeth/Eliza Ella and variations. I believe the 1911 census shows her in service with the HENRY family in Muswell Hill, Hornsey. I can see three possible marriages: SAYER/HAMMOND Q4 1914 Norwich; SAYER/HEARD Q3 191 Gravesend, Kent; and SAYER/BAKER Q2 1920 Medway. If anyone has any information which would enable me to narrow the choice I would be very grateful.Many thanks, annfor1

Re: sayer family essex and norfolk

dianajones227 — 2009-06-16 07:50:25Z

Hello Robert,
My name is Diana Jones (nee Sayer) I am presently researching my family tree. Would you have any informatin for me
Regards
Di Jones

Re: SAYER

annieOBG — 2009-06-07 12:37:02Z

Hi there--I am also a descendant of Antonia Sayer, if you are still out there would you like to share info?

Lionel Sayer Update continue search

oakham61 — 2009-05-31 01:20:02Z

Looking for further information on the following in particular the marriage and Lionel Why did Lionel lie about his past where he was from?
Lionel was born Feb 1893 ( I have the certificate) in Wales His parents were Emmanuel Thomas Sayer and Sarah A Robson
Emanuel died in 1908 Sarah died in 1918 (she remarried after Emanuel's death)
Lionel was in the Army Surrey regiment I found a Lionel P Sayers who was in the Surrey Regiment and as of 1916 he was listed as a deserter
I believe the Lionel I found on on the marriage certificate to Nancy to be the Lionel I am searching for can anyone help me find more information on this family

Lionel Percy Robson Sayer age 32 Married Nancy Gibb age 19
in Kirkmichael in 1931 Lionel stated his parent were George Burton Sayer ( actaully this was an uncle) Eileen Margaret Fergusen ( this was the fist name of a cousin I tnink he made up the name Fergusen)
Seaman is a possiblity He put Robson in his name which is the maiden name of his mother No he was not from Australia
Nancys parents are listed as Daniel and Martha Gibb
Why did Lionel lie was it due to a bad record in the Army?
He was last seen in England in 1932/1933
Where was Nancy at this time ? Nancy in 1945 died with the married name Jennings

After finding the above I found and heard from another relative searching the above person Lionel was married in Ireland to a Margaret Christie Gibson They move to Scotland where they had 2 children Then in the early 1920's Lionel left deserted the family and know one knows where he went too
I did find a record of a Leonard P Sayer same age same place of birth on a seaman's record going back and forth from England to NYC
I did find a Leonard Sawyer living in NYC with a woman from Russia in 1930 I have not confirmed there is a connection with this person
Any connections or clues to what happened to Lionel after 1930's would be appreciated

Karen

Re: Henry Sayer

joeannhohn — 2009-04-22 18:28:04Z

I am related to henry thru george sayers, verginia was my ggrandmother married to edward mccouy. They were from the blind river area, i believe the mississauga reverve #8 email me at jamdah@shaw.ca or check out the mccoy, sayer family tree. joe ann

Re: George Mahoney SayerRe" message from

annieOBG — 2009-03-29 06:22:43Z

I know this is an old message but i'm hoping you still have this email address. I am a descendant of John Jackson Blalock and Antonia Sayer and would love to find any information on the Sayer line. Thanks so much, Annie
anniego@mac.com

Re: info on sayer name or percy L sayer of NY relatives

trevsay — 2009-03-26 20:44:59Z

Ran across this post I beleive you are looking for me. Woould like to see what nformation you have

continuing search

oakham61 — 2009-02-22 03:29:31Z

I am still searching for Lionel Percy Robson Sayer I believe he might have fled the country as i cannot find him in the death records for England
This is what I know about him:
Born in 1893 Wales ( I have the birth certificate)
Joined the army... Suffolk regiment
Married in Ireland in the 1920's to Margaret Gibson moved to Scotland had two children
Then deserted the army and his wife /children
Think he might have become a seaman as I found a Leonard Sawyer his birth place and year is the same
In 1930 he married again in Scotland ( there was no divorce from the first wife at this time )
Believe his second wife Nancy Gibb might have found out about the first marriage or he left her also as she died in 1945 married to someone else
From 1933 we have not idea where he disappeared to
Would some one be able to see if he appears on any passenger lists in or out of England
Really appreciated all the help I have had to get this far any further assistance appreciated

Karen

Re: Having trouble finding Alma Sayer in Census record

Michelle_Fogg — 2009-02-10 17:37:55Z

Hi Karen,

Unfortunately Alma doesn't have a middle name, I thought that he would have been easy to trace but he is proving quite difficult.

Thanks

Re: Having trouble finding Alma Sayer in Census record

oakham61 — 2009-02-07 02:26:38Z

Alma Sayer is unusual for a male I see most in the ceneus are females did Alma have a middle name if so could be under that name in the census forms

Karen

Having trouble finding Alma Sayer in Census record

Michelle_Fogg — 2009-02-02 22:40:28Z

Can anyone help please....My grandad Sidney Sayer died in 1997 and didn't really talk about his family, the only details I knew were his place and date of birth (Norfolk 1922), I have since managed to find out his fathers name Alma Sayer and he to was born in Norfolk in 1889, he was married to Alice Brennand in 1914 but i can't find him in the census records. I also know that Alma's father was called Robert Sayer born approx 1850 and he married Sarah Elizabeth Wade (also born in 1850). I am really puzzled as to why Alma is not showing on the 1890 or 1901 census. Please please can someone help me, i have ground to a halt and am not sure how to proceed.

Jack SAYER d. 9 April 1913 - Kansas City, MO

JohnWOBrien — 2009-01-31 01:06:40Z

"The Kansas City Times" (Missouri) Thursday, April 10, 1913

A VETERAN NEGRO FIREMAN DIES.

Jack SAYER, also known as "Black Jack," a negro who
had been a member of the Kansas City Fire Department
since 1891, died yesterday afternoon. He was 45 years
old. He served actively until last October, when he was
pensioned because of ill health.

For twenty years he had a record of never missing a fire
to which his company, No. 11, was called. For several
years before he was retired he was a lieutenant and at
one time refused the rank of captain.

======================================================
(I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate
knowing if you found this posting helpful.)
johnobrien@kc.rr.com
======================================================

neirbo9

Alfred Charles Sayer

oakham61 — 2009-01-17 19:18:16Z

I recieved a email from some one through ancestry asking for more information on Alfred Charles Sayer Unfortunately the email was deleted
Would you please email me back

Karen

Re: sayer family essex and norfolk

salisbury283 — 2008-12-28 09:11:07Z

Hi Sue

I have some info for you regarding the Sayer family.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Robert

Donald L. Sayer, 1/11/1939-5/4/2008

wilsond212 — 2008-05-13 12:00:15Z

http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/obituaries/273/

Donald L. Sayer

Died May 4, 2008

Donald Lawrence Sayer, 69, of Watertown, N.Y., a U.S. Marine Corps veteran formerly of Reston, died May 4 at his home in Florida.

A service will be held May 16 at 11 a.m. at Covenant Funeral Service Chapel in Fredericksburg. Burial will follow in Quantico National Cemetery.

Mr. Sayer was born Jan. 11, 1939, to the late Stanley W. Sayer and Eleanor Donovan Sayer. He lived in Reston from 1979 until about 2002. He retired from Lockheed Martin, where he had been a software manager.

Survivors include his wife, Anna Sayer of Watertown; two daughters, Lynda Francis of Fredericksburg, and Catherine Sayer of Herndon; a brother, Stanley W. Sayer of Williamsville, N.Y.; and three grandchildren.

Memorials may be sent to the American Cancer Society, c/o Trudy Clifton, 113 Tallpines Ave., Locust Grove, VA 22508; American Heart Association Memorial Processing Center, Box 5216, Glen Allen, VA 23058; or the National Kidney Foundation of Virginia, 2601 Willard Road, Suite 103, Richmond, VA 23294.

Joshua Sayer Family Record & Misc, RI, also DUHCEINE, ALMY, POTTER, JAMES, SANFORD, GODFREY, HOWLAND, HATHAWAY

allister — 2008-09-16 16:59:06Z

This is a set of pages in possession. I am not related to them. Digital images will be posted on Bible Records Online as I have time.

These pages were separated from a Bible. I do not know their age, but the ink and handwriting looks contemporary.

[Page One]

Deacon Joshua Sayer’s Family Record
{Elaborate Decoration}
Joshua Sayer was a native of Deal in England, when he
married his first wife Ann Duhceine in the year 1723.
Their son Joshua was born 1st Oct. 1724.
Their son Lewis was born 26th Feby. 1726.
Their daughter Ann was born 7th Augt. 1727.
Their daughter Elizabeth was born 10th March 1729.
Their son Joshua was born 30th May 1738, and his wife died
the 19th September 1738.
He was again married to Anstis Almy of Newport R.I. Sept. 25th 1740
Their daughter Abigail was born 8th July 1741.
Their Son Benjamin was born 20th June 1743.
Their Son Joshua was born 10th Feby. 1746.
Their Daugter [sic] Anstis was born 23rd Sept. 1747.
Their Daughter Ann was born 1st Decem. 1749.
Their Daughter Elizabeth was born 18th April 1753.
Their Son Lewis was born 6th Augt. 1755.
Their Daughter Mary was born 18th Novr. 1758.
{Elaborate Decoration and hand arrow}
Their daughter Abigail married William Potter & by him had Sons & daughters
Their Son Benjamin married Sally James and Rebecca James & by them had Sons & daughters
Their Son Joshua married Rebecca Sanford & by her had Sons & daughters
Their daughter Anstis married James Godfrey & by him had Sons & daughters
Their daughter Ann married Wm. Howland & by him had Sons & daughters
Their Son Lewis married Patience Hathaway & by her had Sons & daughters

[Page Two – written on the last page of Concordance]

Clarissa Sayer a black of Deacon Joshua Sayer’s
Died 26th Jany 1834 in the 93d year of her age.

[Page Three – very faint pencil. This refers to the 2nd
Congregational Church of Newport, R.I.]

The Second Congregational Church was
founded 11th April 1728 – it consisted of 7 members.
Rev. John Adams was 1st Pastor – he added
20 members to the Church.
Rev. James Leven was his successor
He added 40 members to the Church
Doctor Ezra Stiles succeeded Rev. Leven and
added 95 members to the church.
Revd. Doct. Patten succeeded him and added
76 members to the Church previous
to 11th April 1828
The Church at the completion of the Century
Consists of 30 finale members
April 13th Tenbridge Hammond and
Clarke ??? was added to the Church.

Capitulation –
Original members – 7
Added by Mr. Adams – 20
do – by Mr. Leven – 40
do – by Doctor Stiles –95
do – by Doct. Patten – 76
238
???ified deceased 208
?? remain 30 finally

Doct. Patten found 34 members
at his ??collection of whom 3 only
are now living.

[Page Four – This is a page that is marbled on the front over a
page from “The New and Complete Book of Martyrs” [Q. Mary A.D. 1553].
The reverse has some jotted figures, one possibly relating to someone’s
age at death and the possibly other calculating the church members.]

7
40
95
76
278

1843
1783
60

Re: SAYRE/SAYER in NY > PA > MI, 1804 - 1940

lynhinkle — 2007-06-28 02:04:47Z

Thank you for taking the time to send me this information. I appreciate all the help I can get.

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

asay_1 — 2008-06-26 19:30:28Z

forgot to add medal card sayers lionel percy gs/10563 corps regiment east surrey regiment royal field artillery. married my grandmother margaret Gibson married cork 1918. Don't know if this is the same person. disapeared 1920's

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

asay_1 — 2008-06-26 19:20:17Z

I have been serching for a lionel percy sayers married in cork Ireland nov 1918 he is my grandfather. Went awol in 1920's stil trying to find him.

Re: Sayer continued search

asay_1 — 2008-07-27 13:20:34Z

I have information regarding lionel percy Sayers

Re: info on sayer name

JuneMartin17 — 2008-09-18 18:07:25Z

I have information on Percy Lynn Sayer. Contact me if still interested.

Re: sayer uk

JuneMartin17 — 2008-09-11 19:11:51Z

I have an Emily Sayer born in 1860 in Tottenham, Norfolk County, England. Her father was Edward Sayer b. 1835 in Carbrooke, Norfolk Co., mother was Susan. If this is your Emily, contact me I have additional information.

Re: William Sayer, Norfolk

Oreenz — 2008-04-30 13:31:26Z

Hi Debi.Its a while since you posted this but was trawling through St Marys Parish Church East Rudham Norfolk baptisms, while searching for my own Richard Burgess SAYER family, there is a William SAYER bapt 2 June 1837 son of Robert and Sophia SAYER. Fathers occupation Butcher.William had 8 other siblings. Hope this helps

Re: Sayer family in Warwick, NY

jcshane — 2008-04-15 03:18:49Z

Hi, my family is also from Caleb Sayer & Hannah Taylor.Their daughter Sarah married my gggrandfather John Walter Longwell. I would be very interested in any info on Sayer's and Hannah Taylor's parents.Also if you have any info on Caleb Sr's mother,(Betsy Fischer) parents Thanks so much.
Debbie

Irene O Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-06-04 01:59:22Z

Looking for any informaiton on Irene O Sayer she was a witness to Mabel Dorothy Sayer wedding in 1920
Who was Irene was she a younger sister ( i did not know about ) What happened to her after 1920
Mabels parents were Edward and Lucy Sayer from Saltely Warwickshire Both Edward and Lucy were deceased at the time of the wedding

Thanks for any information

Nancy Gibb/Lionel P Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-07-05 00:30:51Z

Irene o Sayer update

oakham61 — 2008-11-29 03:25:06Z

I have found that Irene left for Canada where she married in 1925 to a Harold Phillips
Lived in the Sault St Marie area I believe as this is where they were married
I would like to know if they had any children or where they died Would any one be able to assist me greatly appreciated

Karen

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-10-07 02:04:03Z

hi did not see this post you posted a month before we connected through a diffrent post
the informaiton on this site I obtained are a possiblity
there was no Leonard percy Sayers born in wales in 1893 the only one is our Lionel Percy Sayer so looks like he was trying to hide by using a diffrent name but only discrepency is he states he was a sailor but we know he was in the army
More puzzle pieces

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-10-07 01:58:45Z

Sorry for the delay in replying I have only just found you message appreciate the time I seem not to be notified of messages in response to me postings on this web site
this information has been very useful in trying to track him down all possiblities
Lionel ( Leonard) Percy Sayer(s) apparently was hiding from two wives and the Army
thanks

Karen

LIONEL P SAYER

oakham61 — 2008-06-23 01:44:22Z

I have tied several times over the past 8 years to try and find Lionel P Sayer but no luck maybe this time I will get the answers
Lionel was born in 1893 Wales to Emanuel and Sarah sayer
Emmanuel was a coach driver and Sarah domestic servant
From Wales they went to Doncaster More children born Alexander/Florence and Wilfred I have all there information Lionel remains a mystery
I know he was in he ast Surrey Reg during the war have a photo of Lionel in his uniform
ANY help apprecaited

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-02-02 21:57:47Z

this could possibly be my great uncle his age is correct and so is the nationality but his name was Lionel Percy Sayer Do you have any connection to this person or know any other information I have been trying to locate his for over 20 years and this is the closest I have gotten to a good match
I searched all the death records for him in the UK but nothing
You mentioned a diffrent spelling of the last name owuld it be gpossible to gain this information also
THANK YOU ofr assisting

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-01-26 16:59:01Z

No idea unfortunately i do not I found a Social Security death index for Thomas Sayer with the date of birth I was searching and it stated last place of residence was Canada

Thank you for replying

Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

oakham61 — 2008-01-25 02:50:20Z

Looking for information on a leonard Percy Sayers born 1893 Left Wales to New York in 1930 on the ship Port Napier only informaiton i have found on him was he was last residence was Canada He also could have used the name Thomas Sayer ( doB 27th Feb 1893) Any informaiton would be appreciated

Karen

BURTON-SAYER

oakham61 — 2007-12-14 18:19:24Z

Looking for information on the following family
Margaret BURTON-SAYER daughter of Goerge Burton Sayer and Jeanie Hall She was poss born in China Married in Wesminister Catholic church 1941 Had two children that I am awareof through reseach James and Bridget
Would love to make a connection
Margaret is he daughter of my grandfathers uncle My Grandfather was Wilfred Burton Sayer
thanks you

Re: SAYRE/SAYER in NY > PA > MI, 1804 - 1940

Djellison01 — 2007-06-27 23:17:06Z

There is a biography of John M Sayre born 22 Dec 1836 Warren Co, PA, son of Nathan Sayre and Eliza E Kikendall in Michigan History. He married Eliza Jane Bates 04 May 1863 in Eaton Co, MI. She was born 17 Nov 1846 and children of record are Clarissa S, w/o Charles Armstrong, born 17 May 1864; John N born 14 Aug 1868; Eliza E, w/o John A Kikendall, born 04 Nov 1871; William H A born 19 Mar 1873 and George N born 04 Oct 1877.
I have no family connection here but am searching for data
on Squire Sayre born NJ and was a Lt in the War of 1812. His wife was Eunice Meech born abt 1795 CT and died in Wayne Co, MI abt 1855.

Re: SAYRE/SAYER in NY > PA > MI, 1804 - 1940

Djellison01 — 2007-06-28 11:59:05Z

You are welcome and wish I could be more help.

Did find George age 23 (born 1847) in Eaton 1870 census.
Looks like he was living with his mother, Eliza age 60 NY and a invalid son Cornelius age 30 PA.

Dick

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

jimbob017 — 2008-02-02 16:29:01Z

Leonard Sayers was a sailor working on different ships for at least ten years. The last record has him as a sailor aboard the 'Sir James Bell' sailing out of Constantinople via Algiers arriving in Bridgeport, Connecticut on July 25, 1931. Nationality - Welsh, age 39.

Among other ships that he sailed upon where: SS Cameronia and the Assyria.

There are some later records that could be him, but the surname is spelled differently.

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

jimbob017 — 2008-02-03 17:06:26Z

I have no connection to the Sayers family.

The info I have came from the New York Passenger Lists 1820 - 1957. On 11 occassions between 1924 - 1932, a sailor by the name of Leonard Sayers (born abt 1893) arrived aboard one of three ships - SS Cameronia the Assyria or the Sir James Bell most from Glasgow, but the Sir James Bell from Cuba twice & once from Turkey. The manifest states that this person had between 6 & 10 years as a sailor.

All ships came into New York except the one originating in Turkey. It came into Bridgeport, Connecticut. Info on that came from the Atlantic Ports Passenger List 1893 - 1959.

There is one entry for Leonard Percy Sayers age 39 arriving on the Port Napier on 17 Feb 1930 from Swansea, a sailor with 6 years at sea.

Sarah Waller m. 1804 to John Sayer in London, dau. Sarah Smith to PA

lgvalenti — 2008-06-19 19:37:20Z

Does anyone have any information on this couple? They had a daughter, named Sarah Waller Sayer in 1806. This Sarah married James Gray Smith in Manchester and moved to Philadelphia, PA, USA.

Thank you,

Gail

Re: info on sayer name or percy L sayer of NY relatives

alanesayer — 2007-10-22 23:16:57Z

Don't know if you ever found Trevor or not but I'm his uncle and I think you might be my uncle. tell me what you know. Wife and I are looking for the line past Ira W., I think William was his father but not sure.

Re: info on sayer name or percy L sayer of NY relatives

alanesayer — 2007-10-22 23:14:06Z

Your GGrandfather's father was Ira Ulysses Sayer and his father was Ira W. Sayer all from the same area in NY.

Re: Henry Sayer

buzzno — 2007-10-06 19:20:26Z

Hi Gloria, I am also interested in this family. My G-G-G-Grandfather Joseph Boissoneau was married Oct.11,1844 to a woman named Nancy (sometimes referred to as Annecy / Anne) Mesquabanokwe at Sault Ste Marie. Joseph and Nancy had 3 children, Leon, Lucy and Marie. Prior to this union Joseph was married to a Marguritte Guillmond. Six children, all boys came from this union. Three of these boys married members of Chief Shingualk's ( Pine ) tribe at Garden River, and thuss became members themselves and their families. The 3 children from the second marriage to Nancy, Leon, Lucy and Mary all became mebers at birth to Chief Nebenagooching's ( Sayer's ) tribe, at the Soo. I have been told that this was because Nancy was a relative of Chief Sayer, possibly a sister?? Could the family you are looking for have had a child named Nancy Mesquabanokwe?? Hope to hear from you.
Thanks. Dave Boissineau

Re: Henry Sayer

TerrySweeney46 — 2007-10-10 21:03:09Z

Greetings Dave
The henry sayers I am related to married a mary cameron they resided in Mississaugi on other side of hwy not extactly on the reserve itself. My John sayers married a nancy Obemau-unoqua and had 3 children So I mustsay not the same sayers. If I can be of any help with other info I would gladly give you

Gloria McCoy

Re: Henry Sayer

TerrySweeney46 — 2007-10-10 13:26:42Z

Greetings David
My nancy married John Sayers who came from england My henry married mary cameron which I have not figured where she came from as of yet. So I must say I cannot help you as they are two different nancy's.

Gloria McCoy Sweeney

Re: Leonard Percy Sayer could have been called Thomas Sayer

kellyroad — 2008-01-26 16:13:41Z

Any chance that you might have a place in Canada , he migth have headed to ?

Re: German Sayer Family

tomjlutz — 2007-06-21 14:36:43Z

Sorry
I have no information about any American Sayers