Hi!

I noticed your posting when researching the KUMNICK surname. Many of the names you mention are in thgis tree and I am descended from Friedrich August KUMNICK one of the ons to come out on the "Godefroy" in 1849. I notice a Schaefel in there: could that be your Shapel?

Here is some of the info I have:

The details of this family that I have are as follows

1. Friedrich Ludwig August ("Augie") KUMNICK b. 3 May 1815, Prussia, d. 28 Jan 1898, Lobethal, South Australia (also known as "Brandy" KUMNICK)
m. 1. Johanne Dorothea HOLTZENBACHER b. ? d.3 Jul 1869
m. 2 Catherine Beck
m. 3 Wilhelmine Johanne Juliane SCHUBERT (nee SCHMIDT) b.? d. 12 June 1902
2. Carl Gustav b. 1844, Prussia
m. Marie KRAMER
3. Alma Rosalia Helene KUMNICK b. 22 Apr 1873
m. Carl Friedrich Ludwig KOEHNE
4. Laura Alwyne KOEHNE
m. George Alfred Dyer (?)
5. Lois Dorothy m. ? NAGEL
6. Phyllis m. ? KRETSCHMER
7. Maxwell George KRETSCHMER
4. Edgar Daniel KOEHNE
m. Catherine DOYLE ( they had 4 children)
3. Ida Bertha Anna or Ida Anna Maria b. 1875 or 1877
m. Ernst Alfred SCHAEFEL in 1899
3. Gustav Rudolph b. 14 Oct 1879
m. Amanda Maria DROGEMULLER in 1905. She died 1907
m. 2 Amy Selma SCHUBERT
3. Emma Ottilie b. 6 Sept 1884
2. Emilie Mathilde b. 1847, Prussia
2. Heinrich Otto b. 15/06/1849, South Australia d. 1850
2. Ida Ottilie, b. 9 Sept 1851, Lobethal, South Australia
m. Anton von WIADROWSKI (First wife)
3. Alfred von WIADROWSKI b. 21 May 1879 d. 17 Jan
1940
m. Gertrude Eliza TYLER at NORWOOD
3. Antonie von WIADROWSKI b. 17 May 1880, d. 29 Jan
1969, Adelaide, South Australia
m. George Carl Francis KOCH
3. Herbert von WIADROWSKI b. 27 Jan 1882 d. 8 Mar
1957
m. Emily Mary HEYNEN St Lukes Anglican Adelaide,
South Australia
m. 2. Emma THAMM b. 10 Dec 1868 d. 11 May 1938 (2nd
wife of Anton von WIADROWSKI)
3. Elwyn b. 17 Mar 1901 d. 16 Oct 1992
3. Elsa "Peggy" b. 20 August 1902, d. 15 Oct 1992
m. Jack LESCHEN
3. Vernon b. 11 Dec 1903, d. 26 Oct 1984
2. Ernestine Marie b. 2 Dec 1853
m. Johann Carl Friedrich DOHNT (They had nine kids) on 6
April 1880
2. Hulde Beate KUMNICK b. 6 Jan 1857, South Australia
m. Bernhard ROTHE in 1881
1. Carl Ferdinand "Carpenter" KUMNICK b. 8 Dec 1824, Flatow, Prussia d. 23 Jul 1918, Lobethal, South Australia, (half-brother of above Friedrich Ludwig August KUMNICK.
m. Johanne Eleonore "Hanlor" SEIDEL 31 Jul 1851 in "zum Weinberge Christi" Lutheran church Lobethal, South Australia.
b. Schloin, Germany 29 Dec 1830
d. 24 Jul 1910, Lobethal, South Australia
Father: Christian SEIDEL
Mother: Elisabeth SEIDEL
2. Karl "Charles" KUMNICK b. 19 June 1952, Lobethal, d. 13 Mar 1922, Adelaide
m. Marie Helene "Amalia" ELSHOLZ 27 Mar 1879, Freeling, South Australia
b. 22 Jul 1858, Rosenthal (now Rosedale), South Australia, d. 5 June 1936,
Adelaide, South Australia
Spouses Father: August ELSHOLZ
Spouses Mother: Amalie OEHME
3. Clara Gustave Alma KUMNICK b. 7 Feb 1880, d. 1 June 1919
m. Patrick Joseph MINOGUE b. 10 Jul 1873, d. 15 Oct 1957
3. Gertrude Amalia KUMNICK b. 24 Dec 1880 d. 11 June 1964
m. William SAINSBURY b. 24 Jan 1878 d. 22 Dec 1960
4. Rita Flora SAINSBURY b. 31 Jul 1906
m. George SCHELL
4. Doris Gertrude SAINSBURY b. 1 Aug 1907
m. John BOURN
3. Agnes Louise KUMNICK b. 25 Feb 1882, d. 15 May 1944
m. 1 Joseph TUCK
m. 2 Edward MEINICKE
3. Ferdinand Rudolph KUMNICK b. 16 Dec 1883, d. 13 Apr 1884
3. Oscar Erich KUMNICK b. 16 Sept 1892. d. 17 Jul 1956
m. Ivy Irene THOMAS b. 12 Mar 1899
-2. Otto Berthold KUMNICK
m. Johanne Marie Anna BAUMGUERTEL
b. 22 Oct 1856, Bugle Ranges, South Australia d. 23 Aug ?, LENSWOOD
(buried Lobethal)
Spouses Father: Heinrich Christian Conrad BAUMGUERTEL
Spouses Mother: Mary Anne BANFIELD
3. Eleanore Maria Anna KUMNICK b. 19 May 1882, d. 19 Sept 1974
m. Richmond HALE b. 5 Aug 1880, d. 5 Mar 1959
3. Otto Carl KUMNICK b. 2 Sept 1884 d. 6 Apr 1967
m. Meta Sophie SICKERDICK b. 11 June 1899
3. Norman Edgar KUMNICK b. 2 Aug 1887, d. 24 Aug 1858
3. Antonie Bertha KUMNICK b. 18 June 1888, d. 12 Mar 1959
m. Gustav Alfred REU b. 26 Sept 1882, d. 25 Aug 1961
3. Albert Oscar KUMNICK
b. 2 Jul 1891, d. 3 Sept 1891
3. Elsie Clara KUMNICK
b. 10 Aug 1897 d. 25 Mar 1970
m. Hugh MACLEAN
b. 3 Oct 1886, d. 30 Jul 1953
2. Auguste Eleonore KUMNICK b. 6 May 1856, Lobethal, South Australia, d. 6
Jan 1876, Lobethal, South Australia
2. Ferdinand Gottwald Richard KUMNICK b. 7 June 1858, Lobethal d. 9 Sept,
1939, Warracknabeal, Victoria
m. Pauline "Emma" Schwarz at Minlaton, South Australia on 17 Aug 1883
b. 6 Nov 1862, Woodside, South Australia, d. 17 Dec 1939, Warracknabeal,
Victoria
3. Wilhelm KUMNICK b. 1855 d.?
m. Florence APPLEBY
3. Alma Eleanore KUMNICK
b. 6 Jul 1886, d. 18 Jan 1951
3. Ferdinand August KUMNICK b. 15 Aug 1888, d. 25 Mar 1954
m. Myrtle Olive ATKIN b. 3 Nov 1886, d. 17 Mar 1958
3. Nelda Emma KUMNICK b. 12 Nov 1890, d. 29 Dec
1967
m. John Gordon SHAW b. 9 Apr 1899
3. Elsie Ida KUMNICK
b. 16 Jul 1893, d. 30 Mar 1950
3 Vera Amalia KUMNICK b. 2 Apr 1900, d. 14 Feb 1961
m. Joseph MURRAY b. 20 Sept 1900
2. Ewald Paul KUMNICK b. 14 Dec 1862, Lobethal, South Australia, d. 17 Nov
1948
m. Katherine EARLES in 1887
b. 16 Mar 1859, Warrnambool, Victoria, d. 15 mar , 1941, Lobethal
Spouses Father; John EARLES
3. John Charles KUMNICK b. 24 Jan 1888, d. 7 Apr 1975
3. Elvira Clara KUMNICK b. 28 June 1890, d. 11 Oct 1922
3. Lillian Anne Mary KUMNICK b.4 Feb 1893, d. 28 Aug 1957
m. Cecil Vivian BACKHOUSE b. 31 Jul 1893, d. 28 Aug 1957
3. Irene Beatrice KUMNICK b. 9 Jul 1896, d. 27 Feb 1967
2. Anna Helene Mathilde KUMNICK b. 21 Feb 1865 d. 28 Aug 1945
m. Joseph LOSCHY 13 May 1907 St Paul's Lutheran Church Lobethal
b. ? d.? just before WW2 in Ballarat, Victoria
2. Philip Friedrich "Heinrich" KUMNICK b. 13 June 1867, Lobethal, d. 9 June
1941, Gawler, South Australia
m. Marie Elisabeth EY 13 Jan 1898 in "zum Weinberge Christi" Lutheran
Church, Lobethal
b. 20 mar 1876, Carlsruhe. d. 25 Mar 1940, Gawler, South Australia
Spouses Father: Pastor Rudolph EY
Spouses Mother: Anna Victorias OSTER.
3. Frieda Alberta KUMNICK b. 15 Nov 1908, d. 6 Nov 1965
m. Richard Carl BESSEN
2. Johanne Maria "Bertha" KUMNICK b. 16 Mar 1869, Lobethal, d. 4 Nov 1950,
Adelaide, South Australia
m. Charles Frederick OATES 30 Apr 1891 in KUMNICK home
b. 21 Sept 1862, Bendigo, Victoria, 28 June 1941, Adelaide, South Australia
Spouses Father: Henry OATES
Spouses Mother: Katherine COX
3. Charles Harold OATES b. 10 Aug 1892
m. Agnes Louise MALEY
b. 16 Jan 1882, d. 19 Jul 1965
3. Dorothea Eleanor Katherine OATES b. 2 Feb 1896
m. Maxwell James SMITH b. 16 Apr 1898, d. 10 Feb 1968
Helene Louise OATES b. 20 May 1898, d. 22 Aug 1973
3. Edith Agnes OATES b. 18 May 1900
m. Arthur Putland b. 11 Jan 1896
3. Gertrude Bertha OATES b. 27 Feb 1902
m. Reginald Killmier b. 23 Mar 1901
3. Albert Richard OATES b. 5 June 1903
m. Elsie Holyoake b. 16 Apr 1908
3. Frederick Eric OATES b. 1 Sept 1905
m. Kathleen PENNINGTON b. 9 Mar 1906
8. Clara Millicent OATES b. 1 Dec 1907
m. William Duke b. 10 Sept 1903
8. Jack OATES b. 28 Nov 1909
m. Avis Nelson b. 5 Feb 1913
2. Albert Johannes Paul ( "John" KUMNICK) b. 24 Aug 1871, Lobethal, d. 3 June
1955
m. Florence Jessie MCDOUGALL 6 Apr 1904
b. 10 Feb 1882, d. 3 Jan 1967
Spouses Father: John MCDOUGALL
Spouses Mother: Anna Maria BARTLETT
3.John Albert Carl KUMNICK
3. Jean Eleonor Bartlett KUMNICK
3. Donald Kerr KUMNICK
3. Majorie Helene KUMNICK
m. Robert Aldsworth BARRIE
3. Paul Allan KUMNICK
2. Clara Christina KUMNICK b. 17 Nov 1874, Lobethal, South Australia, d. 1. May
1951, Lobethal