Loretta/Joseph/George Schutz, 1900- 1975, (Watertown, WI) and Shutz family from Bavaria?
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Loretta/Joseph/George Schutz, 1900- 1975, (Watertown, WI) and Shutz family from Bavaria?
 stevecorning
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Posted: 2 Nov 2008 8:42PM GMT |
Classification: Query
Surnames: Schultz, Schutz, Appenfeldt, Adna, Heinzman, Bornstein,
I have a lot of information on this family, and am trying to verify details. I would appreciate any help if you have Schutz information from the Watertown, WI area, (especially if they originally came from Bavaria).
Main question is verifying the arrival date of George Schutz, in America, and the hometown in Germany, (Bavaria). If you look at the dates below, they don't match up for the arrival times versus Joseph's birth.
George and Mary were married in 1860. My current speculations is Mary might have been pregnant with Joseph when they left Bavaria in 1861/62/63. It would have taken them several months to arrive in the U.S..
Joseph was born in May of 1862,Bavaria and the best ship list I have is arrived in December 1863, New York?
All of the family lived in the Watertown, WI, (Jefferson and Dodge County), area on various farms, or sometimes in Watertown.
I first find George(39)/ Mary(35) in the 1870 census under George Schuls, with 6 children living on a farm in LeRoy, WI.
This becomes George(49)/Mary Schutz(46) in the 1880 census on the same farm in LeRoy.
And finally in the 1900 census George(69)/Mary(64). Says they have been married for 40 years.
The family:
Loretta Ann Sarah Sadie Schutz is my grandmother born in Hubbleton, WI, (1900-1975), and married to William Schultz.
She had three brothers, George, Raymond, and Louis.
Her mother/father were Joseph Schutz and Rose Appenfeld(t).
Jospeh was born February 8, 1871 in LeRoy, WI and died in 1935. His gravemarker says, "Sofe J. Schutz". Here is his obituary:
Obituary Watertown Courier 5 September 1935
Joe Schutz dies suddenly Tuesday
Funeral services will be held today at ST. Henry's Church Watertwon on Friday morning. Septmeber 6th for Joe Schutz, age 64, who died of a heart attack on Tuesday September 3rd.
Joe Schutz son of George and Catherine Schutz, was born February 8, 1871 at LeRoy, WI where he resided for several years. The family then moved to Neosho where he remained for four years and learned the blacksmith trade. Later he moved to Watertown to continue his Blacksmith trade and was married there on February 16, 1898 to Rose Appenfledt at St. Henry's church. A few years after their marriage they moved to a farm near Sun Prarie where they resided for 25 years, and then moved to the Foley farm, north of Waterloo, and later to Hanke farm south of here , for seven years.
Besides his wife he is survived by four children, one daughter Mrs Wm. Schultz Jr, and three sons, George, Raymond, and Louis; five grandchildren; one brother, Louis Schutz and a sister, Mrs. Herman Schoechert.
Mr Schutz dropped dead while working in a corn field at the Tom Fenney farm south of here, one of his neighbors. He was helping fill silo and suffered the attack shortly after dinner. There were other men working in the same field.
Joseph's parents were George Schutz and Mary Adna(sp?).
My best dates are George Schutz, born May 1831, Bavaria Germany, and died September 23, 1901, Wisconsin.
Mary born December 1835 Bavaria, Germany.
I have two possible ship lists, with the most likely being
December 7, 1863, showing barely readable names just using initials. C/G Schutz- 32, M Schutz-28, J Schutz- 2.
Here is what I have on George:
George Schutz- He was born May 1831 in Bavaria, Germany. Immigration Mar 1862 in from Bavaria. He died on 23 Sep 1901 in Wisconsin. Cause of Death was Appendicitis.
Notes for George Schutz: General Notes:
According the the 1900 census they were married for 40 years (1860 married).
Indicated they both arrived, (with Joseph), in the US in 1861, but says living in US for 29 years which does not make sense. Also indicated Joseph Schutz was born in Germany in 1862, again this does not match above? Maybe she was pregnant when they left Germany so he immigrated in 1861 but was born in May of 1862. Immigration would then be between Sept. and Dec. of 1861?
George listed as Pa.
Declaration of intent obtained. Dodge County, 29th Day of October 1867.
Born in Bavaria, 1838(?) which does not match all census of 1831. Landed at Port of New York, May,(or March) 1862. Since the birthdate is wrong, and he just signed with "X", I am just using this document as an indicator of what happened.
(George Schutz WI vital records request for Death Certificate. (need to also look for wife Mary) Searched pre-1907, 1900 to 1904 and 1907 to 1910, with negative result.
Mary Adna. She was born Dec 1835 in Bavaria, Germany. Immigration 1862 in from Bavaria.
Notes for Mary Adna: General Notes:
may also be Mary or Catherine? most of census has as Mary
From Joseph Schutz marriage certificate the mother's name is Mary Adna (hard to make out spelling but starts Ad for sure).
George Schutz and Mary Adna. They were married 1860 in Bavaria, Germany. They had 9 children.
1) Joseph Schutz. He was born on 16 May 1860 in Bavaria. Immigration 1861. He died on 23 Sep 1901 in Maryville, Wisconsin.
2) George Schutz. He was born Feb 1863 in LeRoy,WI. He married Anna. They were married 1883.
3) John Schutz. He was born on 06 May 1869 in LeRoy, Wi. He died in Wisconsin.
4) Barbara Schutz. She was born 1868 in LeRoy,WI. She died in Wisconsin.
5) Kathrina Schutz. She was born Oct 1869 in LeRoy,WI.
6) Sarah Schutz. She was born Oct 1869 in LeRoy, Wi.
7) Joseph Schutz. He was born on 08 Feb 1871 in LeRoy, Wi. He married Rosa Appenfeldt. They were married on 16 Feb 1898 in Watertown, WI St. Henry's Church. He died on 03 Sep 1935 in Watertown, WI. Burial in Watertown, WI, St. Henry cemetery.
8) Olga Maria Schutz. She was born Oct 1874 in LeRoy, Wi. She married Herman Edward Schoechert. They were married 1904.
9) Louis Schutz. He was born on 23 Dec 1875 in LeRoy, Wi. He married Jenny. They were married 1903. He died in Milwaukee, WI.
Main question is verifying the arrival date of George Schutz, in America, and the hometown in Germany, (Bavaria). If you look at the dates below, they don't match up for the arrival times versus Joseph's birth.
George and Mary were married in 1860. My current speculations is Mary might have been pregnant with Joseph when they left Bavaria in 1861/62/63. It would have taken them several months to arrive in the U.S..
Joseph was born in May of 1862,Bavaria and the best ship list I have is arrived in December 1863, New York?
All of the family lived in the Watertown, WI, (Jefferson and Dodge County), area on various farms, or sometimes in Watertown.
I first find George(39)/ Mary(35) in the 1870 census under George Schuls, with 6 children living on a farm in LeRoy, WI.
This becomes George(49)/Mary Schutz(46) in the 1880 census on the same farm in LeRoy.
And finally in the 1900 census George(69)/Mary(64). Says they have been married for 40 years.
The family:
Loretta Ann Sarah Sadie Schutz is my grandmother born in Hubbleton, WI, (1900-1975), and married to William Schultz.
She had three brothers, George, Raymond, and Louis.
Her mother/father were Joseph Schutz and Rose Appenfeld(t).
Jospeh was born February 8, 1871 in LeRoy, WI and died in 1935. His gravemarker says, "Sofe J. Schutz". Here is his obituary:
Obituary Watertown Courier 5 September 1935
Joe Schutz dies suddenly Tuesday
Funeral services will be held today at ST. Henry's Church Watertwon on Friday morning. Septmeber 6th for Joe Schutz, age 64, who died of a heart attack on Tuesday September 3rd.
Joe Schutz son of George and Catherine Schutz, was born February 8, 1871 at LeRoy, WI where he resided for several years. The family then moved to Neosho where he remained for four years and learned the blacksmith trade. Later he moved to Watertown to continue his Blacksmith trade and was married there on February 16, 1898 to Rose Appenfledt at St. Henry's church. A few years after their marriage they moved to a farm near Sun Prarie where they resided for 25 years, and then moved to the Foley farm, north of Waterloo, and later to Hanke farm south of here , for seven years.
Besides his wife he is survived by four children, one daughter Mrs Wm. Schultz Jr, and three sons, George, Raymond, and Louis; five grandchildren; one brother, Louis Schutz and a sister, Mrs. Herman Schoechert.
Mr Schutz dropped dead while working in a corn field at the Tom Fenney farm south of here, one of his neighbors. He was helping fill silo and suffered the attack shortly after dinner. There were other men working in the same field.
Joseph's parents were George Schutz and Mary Adna(sp?).
My best dates are George Schutz, born May 1831, Bavaria Germany, and died September 23, 1901, Wisconsin.
Mary born December 1835 Bavaria, Germany.
I have two possible ship lists, with the most likely being
December 7, 1863, showing barely readable names just using initials. C/G Schutz- 32, M Schutz-28, J Schutz- 2.
Here is what I have on George:
George Schutz- He was born May 1831 in Bavaria, Germany. Immigration Mar 1862 in from Bavaria. He died on 23 Sep 1901 in Wisconsin. Cause of Death was Appendicitis.
Notes for George Schutz: General Notes:
According the the 1900 census they were married for 40 years (1860 married).
Indicated they both arrived, (with Joseph), in the US in 1861, but says living in US for 29 years which does not make sense. Also indicated Joseph Schutz was born in Germany in 1862, again this does not match above? Maybe she was pregnant when they left Germany so he immigrated in 1861 but was born in May of 1862. Immigration would then be between Sept. and Dec. of 1861?
George listed as Pa.
Declaration of intent obtained. Dodge County, 29th Day of October 1867.
Born in Bavaria, 1838(?) which does not match all census of 1831. Landed at Port of New York, May,(or March) 1862. Since the birthdate is wrong, and he just signed with "X", I am just using this document as an indicator of what happened.
(George Schutz WI vital records request for Death Certificate. (need to also look for wife Mary) Searched pre-1907, 1900 to 1904 and 1907 to 1910, with negative result.
Mary Adna. She was born Dec 1835 in Bavaria, Germany. Immigration 1862 in from Bavaria.
Notes for Mary Adna: General Notes:
may also be Mary or Catherine? most of census has as Mary
From Joseph Schutz marriage certificate the mother's name is Mary Adna (hard to make out spelling but starts Ad for sure).
George Schutz and Mary Adna. They were married 1860 in Bavaria, Germany. They had 9 children.
1) Joseph Schutz. He was born on 16 May 1860 in Bavaria. Immigration 1861. He died on 23 Sep 1901 in Maryville, Wisconsin.
2) George Schutz. He was born Feb 1863 in LeRoy,WI. He married Anna. They were married 1883.
3) John Schutz. He was born on 06 May 1869 in LeRoy, Wi. He died in Wisconsin.
4) Barbara Schutz. She was born 1868 in LeRoy,WI. She died in Wisconsin.
5) Kathrina Schutz. She was born Oct 1869 in LeRoy,WI.
6) Sarah Schutz. She was born Oct 1869 in LeRoy, Wi.
7) Joseph Schutz. He was born on 08 Feb 1871 in LeRoy, Wi. He married Rosa Appenfeldt. They were married on 16 Feb 1898 in Watertown, WI St. Henry's Church. He died on 03 Sep 1935 in Watertown, WI. Burial in Watertown, WI, St. Henry cemetery.
8) Olga Maria Schutz. She was born Oct 1874 in LeRoy, Wi. She married Herman Edward Schoechert. They were married 1904.
9) Louis Schutz. He was born on 23 Dec 1875 in LeRoy, Wi. He married Jenny. They were married 1903. He died in Milwaukee, WI.