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Charlotte Scotland

amcgregor1947 — 2009-09-16 22:13:12Z

I am looking for more information on Charlotte Scotland, born c. 1815 in Clackmannanshire. She married Andrew Paterson in Clackmannan on 5th Mar 1835 and later married John Fife in Clackmannan on11 Jul 1853.

I particularly need information on Charlotte's parents, and on Andrew Paterson's parents.

Re: Thomas SCOTLAND born in 1894, Alloa, Clackmannanshire.

flowergirl1781 — 2009-02-01 23:51:22Z

Greetings Karen :

You can get ahold of me at flowergirl1781@yahoo.com thank you and take care

Re: Thomas SCOTLAND born in 1894, Alloa, Clackmannanshire.

karenj_jamieson — 2008-10-23 15:37:53Z

Hello Kevin
I am distantly related to the Scotland's in your tree. I have tried to contact you at your email address but this no longer exists. Please get in touch and I will share what information I have.
Karen

Re: John Scotland

robertscotland — 2008-10-22 17:26:46Z

Hi John,

Well, just to add to the conversation you were having with Maggi, I think I belong to another branch of the Scotland family, although some of the similarities are striking.

My father, John Scotland was born in Birmingham (England, not alabama!!), son of Archibald Scotland who moved to England from Stenhousemuir in Scotland, where he married Catherine McGregor.

Archie was in turn the son of John Scotland and Margaret Dow Taylor (a coincidence?) who lived in Larbert, Stirlingshire.

John was (reputedly) the son of William Scotland and (presumably more definately) Helen King.

Obviously anything before this is a little speculative, but I can trace William back another 2 generations to John and Andrew (b1787).

For your information, during my searches I came across a lot of Scotlands involved in the shipping trade (owners, masters, warehousemen etc) living in the same region. I still have most of this info if it may be of any help to you. It does seem that there were a few families called Scotland living near the east coast, and there probably is some conection somewhere along the line. Have you heard the theory that the name originates from a small village called Scotlandwell near Stirling?

Thanks for setting up the board. There dont appear to be many of us left in Britain now. Mostly in the US and Canada like yourself.

Regards,
Robert Scotland

Re: Thomas Scotland

lucyharding — 2008-08-03 13:49:27Z

Hello
Do you have any details on Sarahs parents?
I am looking for a Sarah Harrison too that fits birth date.
Thanks Lucy

Thomas Scotland

2008-08-03 13:46:41Z

Hello: I am looking for any information on a Sarah Harrison born in Stoke-on-Trent,England. She married Thomas Scotland of Alloa Clackmannashire. She might have been born any where from 1870-1880. Thank you for your time. Anne Marie Scotland

Re: Thomas SCOTLAND born in 1894, Alloa, Clackmannanshire - Wm. SCOTLAND

2000-09-03 12:00:00Z

Hi Kevin

My grandfathers name was Wm. Scotland born around 1820. He married Isabella Mcginnes or Cochrane. I dont know where he originated from.The only known address i have is Wellington Lane Glasgow around 1903.I only know of two daughters-my mother Catherine And sister Helen (Nellie) Perhaps there may be a link to the Thomas Scotlands son William that you mention.
Good hunting

Alex. C.

Thomas SCOTLAND born in 1894, Alloa, Clackmannanshire.

1999-03-04 12:00:00Z

I am looking for information on Thomas Scotland born in 1894,Alloa,Clackmannanshire.He married Jessie Henry Roy. His father's name was also Thomas Scotland and mother's name was Sarah Harrison. His father died at age 40 registered in Alloa. I need information on Thomas Scotland from 1855-1894. Children were Jessie,Thomas,James,Herbert,John and William.

Re: John Scotland

@@smswstoner@alltel.net — 2008-04-30 06:56:23Z

Tom - Sorry; it seems that "your" Catherine [Kate] Scotland and "my" Catherine [Kate] Scotland are two different ladies. According to information from her g-dau and g-son-in-law, "my" Catherine [Kate] Cameron Scotland was born in Dunfermline on 12 November 1873. She married a fellow named Thomas Young. All the information shared between her g-dau/g-s-i-l and me coincides spot-on for parents, siblings, dates, birth and home locations, family lore, etc., and was confirmed by my mother, Kate Scotland's now-90 y-o niece.

I wish you luck in finding "your" Kate - I hope you'll keep the board members posted on your results as I'm sure there are many others out there looking for the same Catherine "Kate" Scotland (>Gardiner) family you are. Again, sorry. maggi.

SCOTLAND family

kerencallaghan1 — 2004-02-26 08:02:55Z

Hi, I have just found my Gr Gr grandmother, Phoebe Scotland, born in Liverpool in 1845. She married John Patrick Callaghan around 1865 to 1974, if they got married! cannot find a trace of wedding cert.

Looking at this list I take it that there are not that many "Scotland"s around?

would be interested in a brief history of the scotland family name if any one has the time.

Am tied up searching the Callaghans at the moment, but would love the notes for my future research.

Thank you
Keren Callaghan

Re: scotland family

kerencalalghan — 2008-01-20 13:14:32Z

Cheers.

Now I just need to find the real name of her father!

Seems to be lost in the damaged paperwork on the Liverpool slums.

Re: John Scotland

tomthompson53 — 2008-01-14 20:34:11Z

Maggie,

Just discovered at ancestry.com

That sometime before 1925 Catherine (Scotland) Gardiner age 36 born 1889 Scotland and her son John Haige Gardiner, age 7 born 1917 in Illinous, USA. Went to Scotland to stay with her family for a year or two because of finicial burdens in the US. And returned in 1925.
Tom

Re: John Scotland

@@smswstoner@alltel.net — 2008-01-14 18:46:56Z

Tom:
The "solid" information I have from Marjorie Stuart (Small) Scotland -wife of John Scotland- for the branch is:

Thomas Scotland married Martha Dow.

Their son, Robert Scotland, married Margaret Gibson (dau of David and Catherine Cameron Gibson).

Robert and Margaret (Gibson) Scotland’s children were: Thomas Scotland, Catherine Scotland, David Scotland, Martha Scotland, Robert Scotland, Margaret Scotland, and John Scotland (b. “Kingsbarns, near St. Andrews” 11 December 1884 and married Marjorie Stuart (Small) Scotland 5 March 1913.)

I have a photo of John Scotland and his birth family – I’m guessing he is between 8 and 12 in the family portrait. It looks as if the three girls are older than he – although one might be about his age…she does not have her hair pinned up as do the other two girls. The notation on the back of the photo says it was “taken about 1895.” Also from the notation, Kate’s location in the group shows Kate as being one of the 2 daughters with ‘grown up’ hair; from the looks of it, I’d guess Kate (Catherine) to be at least 17 or 18 years old – Meg/Margaret, with ‘little girl’ hair in the picture, would be the one closer to John’s age.

If Marjorie Stuart (Small) Scotland listed the children of Robert and Margaret Scotland in their birth order (in the information she gave me,) the family picture I have of them would coincide with the ‘ages’ they appear to be “about 1895” … but that would place Catherine having been born well before 1887. From the picture, and with John Scotland being about 10 in the photo, I’d guess that Catherine/Kate would have been born around 1875-1879 – a full decade earlier than you have on file for her. On the other hand, possibly the notation of which child is which on the back of the photo has Catherine/Kate and Margaret/Meg switched…in which case, Catherine/Kate would be the one looking more of an age with John, but still much older than she could possibly have been if she had been born in in1887.

Do you have confirmation that Kate/Catherine Scotland was born in 1887 and not in the decade prior?

Hmmm – this is turning into a real puzzler… maggi.

Re: John Scotland

tomthompson53 — 2008-01-14 16:12:45Z

Maggie,
I just got off the phone with my Aunt Betty Gardiner.

She told me a little she remembered from a conversation with James A. Gardiner her husband John Gardiner's father.

James Andrew Gardiner born 1883 in Dunfermline along with his brother John Gardiner boarded a ship and left Scotland about 1905, I'll learn more about that story at a later time.

Just thought it might ring a few bells.

Tom

Re: John Scotland

tomthompson53 — 2008-01-14 15:34:53Z

Maggie,
I agree with you we are connected somehow.
Perhaps this additional information will help Margaret remember something?

Here is a query I posted at the rootsweb.com site for Fife, Scotland, several years ago.

James Andrew Gardiner
born; 25 Feb. 1883 in Dunfermline,Fife
died; Feb. 1972 in Florida, USA

Catherine Scotland
born; 14 Jan. 1887 in Cowdendarth, Fife
died; Jan. 1951 in Michigan, USA
Husband and wife;
Their son John Gardiner is my Uncle he is now 84 he is looking for any information on his parents or relatives.
Thanks for any and all information

You can email me direct at ttcarverfl@aol.com

Tom

Re: John Scotland

@@smswstoner@alltel.net — 2008-01-14 15:03:59Z

Tom:
The John Scotland (dau. Margaret) I am related to never, to my knowledge, lived anywhere but in 'the old country' (Kingsbarn, Dunfirmline, Edinburgh) and along the North American west coast - specifically: Vancouver, BC. Canada; the Yukon Territories, Canada (John and dau. Margaret); and the Seattle, Washington area (dau. Margaret.)

Margaret Gibson Scotland was born at "Rose Cottage" in Dunfirmline in Nov 1917 while her sister, Rosina Cant Scotland, and mother, Marjorie Stuart Small Scotland, stayed with Marjorie's folks there. (Marjorie and Rose had been in Vancouver prior to the outbreak of The Great War; Rose having been born in Vancouver.) John Scotland, Marjorie's husband and the girl's father, was in the Crimea when Margaret was born, an engineer on a military ship plying the Euphrates River. (He was not notified of Margaret's birth until March of 1918 - it took that long for the telegram to get to him!)

John 'picked up' Marjorie, Rose, and Margaret from Dunfirmline in 1919-20 and they all headed back to Vancouver where a 3rd daughter, Marjorie (May) was born in, I believe, 1921. John also had a son by a woman in the Yukon Territory - I do not know when the son was born but Margaret mentioned (in the only time -that I know of- she has discussed it) that the boy was about her (Margaret's) age [although, I think he might have been a couple of years younger]. I believe the child was born in Skagway, the city where John stayed over the summer months as he worked as a paddle-boat engineer on the Yukon River.

In talking with Margaret last evening, apparently John's brother, David Scotland (and his family), made it to the Dallas, Texas area years and years ago. Margaret said neither she nor her immediate family ever visited the 'David Scotland' branch when she was growing up and she doesn't know if they are still in Texas or if they've all scattered (...travel and communications certainly were not what they are now.)

I'll have to check with Margaret to see if she ever actually "met" her Aunt Kate after leaving Dunfirmline/Scotland at 2 1/2-years old, or if Aunt Kate -like her Uncle David- were part of the fabric of her life after (her) leaving Scotland only through letters, family stories, and tales of kinship related to her by her parents.

All this by way of saying: Margaret Gibson (Scotland) Bennett (dau. of John Scotland) never lived in Michigan. It seems, though, that if all the Scotland given-names of my branch and your branch are the same, and if the dates, locations, and whatnot are the same, we are probably talking about the same folks...and are related through the same folks. We just have to figure out *how*. I'm game; are you? maggi.

Re: John SCOTLAND

tomthompson53 — 2008-01-12 14:18:51Z

Catherine Scotland, born 14 Jan 1887 in Cowdenarth, Fife, Scotland

Married James Andrew Gardiner born 25 Feb 1883 in Dumfermline, Fife, Scotland.

Catherine (Scotland) Gardiner died 1957 in Michigan, USA.

Thanks
Tom Thompson
Bradenton, FL.

Re: John Scotland

tomthompson53 — 2008-01-14 12:53:21Z

Maggie,

Nice to hear from you.
I am Betty's (Thompson) Gardiner's nephew. I live in Florida. Uncle John had me search for his father's family several years ago. I got nowhere back then. I reciently noticed that rootsweb.com had started a new surname list for Gardiner. Uncle John may me gone but I haven't forgotten his desire to find his family tree. Does Margaret still live in Michigan? I remember going to a couple of family get to get togethers while I was living in Michigan with my father Joe Thompson, Betty's oldest brother.

I think we may beable to find quite a few connections in the Dunfermline area.

Tom Thompson
Bradenton, FL.

Re: Abigail Scotland nee Allicocke

2002-08-16 07:05:31Z

Hi Marilyn, Very nice to hear from you. No I do not have more information on Thomas Scotland right now, but I hope to have more within a few weeks. Rich. Toronto.

The Scotland Family from Burntisland

2003-02-02 13:32:06Z

I have just recently became interested in geneology and I am keen to hear from anyone who has a connection with the Scotland family, from Burntisland, Fife. My Grandfathers name was Robert Scotland who married Helen Boyack, but I don't have many more clues yet.

Re: Family name Scotland

2003-12-22 07:38:05Z

Thanks for the info. I don't think there is a connection, but I will check anyway.
Cheers, Merry Christmas!

Abigail Scotland nee Allicocke

2002-08-07 08:57:53Z

Looking for further info. on Abigail Allicocke who married Thomas Scotland on 4 May, 1782, in New York.

William Scotland

kalotac — 2003-02-13 18:55:02Z

23 May 1960 Tonawanda News
SCOTLAND-William Scotland, 67, of 32 Fletcher St., Tonawanda, died unexpectedly Saturday (May 21, 1960). Born in Hamilton, Ont., Mr. Scotland had resided in Tonawanda for the past 40 years, and had been employed at Spaulding Fibre Co. Inc. more than 15 years. He is survived by his wife, Minnie (nee Marohn); a brother, Fred Scotland, and two sisters, Mrs. Roy Stivers and Mrs. Duncan Miller, all of Niagara Falls, N.Y.; several nieces and nephews also survive. Friends may call at Hamp Funeral Home Inc., 37 Adam St., Tonawanda, where services will be at 2 p.m. Wednesday. The Rev. Karl H. A. Rest of Salem United Church of Christ will officiate. Burial in City Cemetery, Tonawanda.

Re: scotland family

johnsvendsen_1 — 2006-09-20 13:17:37Z

Keren,

Phoebe Scotland married John Patrick Callaghan q4 1865
district West Derby
County Lancashire
vol 8b
page 963

source freebmd via ancestry.co.uk

Phoebe's parents were William Scotland b 1825 Liverpool and Emma Dunton b 1831 Birmingham

William's parents were Patrick Scotland b 1785 Scotland and Phoebe Salts b 1785 Liverpool. they were married in 1804 in Christchurch Hunter St. Liverpool

both William and Patrick describe themselves as mariners in the 1851 census of Liverpool. later they were dock workers

regards

John

Re: scotland family

kerencalalghan — 2007-02-14 17:48:57Z

Hi John, could you let me know where you got the info from about the scotlands?

There are 2 Phoebe Scotlands, the first one Phoebe Charlotte, B Dec 1844 is the daughter of William and Emma,and she shows up in the census', sometimes twice!! as her mother books her down as living with them while she is married and with her husband, mine unfortunatley was born July 1845 to Margaret Critchely and what looks like James or John Scotland. I have never been able to get any info on them.

I have followed the Phoebe Saults / Alexander Scotland family, and wondered if you had any different info apart from what is in the cenus' and on the IGI?? I have seen Alexander and Phoebe, but not the Patrick, where does he fit in?

My Phoebe's father is shown as Mariner on her birth cert, then deff as a John Scotland rope maker, deceased, on her marriage cert. sadly her spouse John Patrick Callagahn's father was also called John, so it could be a mistake......but I am struggling to find any John SCotlands in and around Liverpool that fit the bill! The closest I have is in Manchester he is a merchant in the 1841 census.

Any help you can offer would be much appreciated as i have hit one big brick wall with this now.
Cheers
Keren

Scotland family name- Liverpool england

kerencalalghan — 2005-08-24 23:23:02Z

anyone out there with Scotland family in Liverpool from 1800 to 1860???

Re: John Scotland

@@smswstoner@alltel.net — 2008-01-14 03:39:34Z

Tom: Thanks for the information. I was talking to John Scotland's daughter, 90-year old Margaret, this evening and mentioned that you'd posted Catherine Scotland Gardiner's dates and spouse information. She was wondering if -or how- you are related to her "Aunt Kate"?

And she was really tickled that someone 'out there' knew about her Aunt Kate ... I, too, marvel at the advances in electronics allowing such a sharing to be made. Ain't the Internet 'bout the neatest thing since sliced bread?)

Again, thanks for the information on Catherine. maggi.

Scotland family in Newcastle

purpleheather1 — 2006-06-30 13:06:55Z

My great grandmother was Charlotte Scotland born Newcastle upon Tyne. Scotlands in Newcastle from early 1600s. Did they come from North of the border? And if so when? Anyone else with Geordie Scotlands?

Re: William Scotland

marpatsco — 2002-08-15 00:56:48Z

Hello, I read your posting and am quite intrigued. My grandfather was David Scotland and he married my grandmother, Mary Imlach, who's mother was a Miller. My grandparents settled in Saskatchewan. David Scotland was a circuit jugde and police officer there. The Millers are related to the Moires chocolate family. We traced the Scotland family name back to William Wallace and cousined to Robert Bruce, but cannot get any further. David Scotland had four sons, David, Donald, William, Keith, and a daughter, Jean, diceased at childhood. My grandfather's sister, Jean, married a Captain William Rose in Scotland.If you have any connections to us, I would love to hear from you.
Sincerely, Marilyn Scotland

Re: Abigail Scotland nee Allicocke

marpatsco — 2002-08-15 01:03:04Z

Hi, I am a Scotland and am interested in the Scotland family history. Do you have information on Thomas Scotland? My grandfather was David Scotland, who settled in Saskatchewan from Scotland. He had a sister, Jean, in Scotland who married a Captain William Rose. We traced the Scotland family name back to William Wallace (and cousined to Robert Bruce), and that is as far as we got.
Very pleased to hear about you and
Interested to hear from you!
Sincerely, Marilyn Scotland

Please Help FInd Information, Census and Other Help on Scotland/Donald/Rennie

F_Laffin — 2003-05-14 23:26:19Z

I seem to cant find any information on these family members of mine any help would be great.

James Scotland b:? Died: Jan 15 1933 in Toronto Ontario Canada. Married June 11 1873 in Dundee Scotland a Margaret Rennie. She died in 1910 in West Croydon, Surrey England.
Remarried a Louisa Ruth Tidder, Formaerly Hickey. Born or death Unknown.

His children where:

William Walkie Scotland Born about 1879 died in London England in 1945.
Margaret (Maggie) Scotland b: ?.
James Scotland born in 1890

William Married a Sarah Little.
Margaret Married a ? Barber
James Married a Isobel/Isabella Donald

No I have some other children but I dont know if they belong to William W Scotland Or His Father James Scotland.

Margaret Rennie Scotland
Charles Scotland
Arthur Scotland

* Donald Information Looking For.

Father and Christine ?. Died about 1908 in Scotland

There Children Where:
Isabel Grey Donald Borin in 1890
William Donald
Christine Donald born about 1900
John (Jack) George Donald born in 1903
Henry (Harry) Donald
Alexzander Donald

Any help on any of these familys would be great, Thank you so much for your time you can reach me at dreamchild_69 @hotmail.com

James Scotland From Sandhurst England

dreamchild69 — 2002-10-08 18:49:34Z

James Scotland from Sandhurst England who Married a Isabelle Donald From Abredeenshire Scotland, they moved to Canada.

Isabelle had 1 sister and 2 brothers. that I know of.
William Donald, Christine Donald, John (Jack) Donald, Any information can help, Please e-mail me at dreamchild_69@hotmail.com

Julia Scotland, b. abt. 1870, Scotland

kaycee1234 — 2003-05-23 02:58:48Z

Looking for info on Julia, married to Robert Clydesdale of Crosshill, Ayr, Scotland.

Re: scotland family

scottmcmartin — 2008-01-13 18:52:09Z

The majority of Scotland's originate from Fife in Scotland. My Mum is a Scotland, I have traced my tree back the Fife around early 1700's.

Scott

John Scotland

smswstoner — 2004-07-25 02:37:50Z

I'm so glad we finally have a board for the surname Scotland! How much easier it will be to search for our kin.

My grandfather was John Scotland. He was born in Kingsbarns (near St. Andrews) 11 December 1884. He was the son of Robert Scotland [s/o Thomas Scotland and Martha Dow Scotland] and Margaret Gibson Scotland [d/o David Gibson and Catherine Cameron Gibson]. His siblings were Thomas Scotland, Catherine Scotland, David Scotland, Martha Scotland, Robert Scotland, and Margaret Scotland.

Grandfather John Scotland married my grandmother, Marjory Stuart Small, 5 March 1913 in Dunfirmline, Scotland. They moved to Vancouver where their 1st and 3rd daughters were born (29 Dec 1913 and 30 Oct 1920 respectively) - their 2nd daughter, my mother, was born 20 Nov 1917in Dunfirmline. The family lived in Vancouver, BC, Canada and Grampa John worked on the paddle-wheel ships that traveled up the Yukon. He died in Vancouver on 22 July 1954 and Marjory died on 8 October 1979, also in Vancouver.

Surnames on my maternal side are: Dow, Gibson, Scotland, Small, Stuart, Motion, Cameron, Cant, Leach, Walker, and Young. I have a listing of family members compiled by my grandmother Scotland, starting with the 29 Nov 1800 marriage of her gggrandparents Peter Small and Mary Walker Small in Scotland, and will be happy to share what I have. m.

Alexander SCOTLAND

Karen_Steel — 2006-05-13 18:08:53Z

Looking for information, connections, or other descendants of Alexander Scotland, born around 1815 somewhere in Scotland. He married Janet Cram(b) in Auchtergaven in 1836. Their daughter, Jessie, is my gr. gr. grandmother. Their son, John, was the proprietor of Scotland's Hotel in Pitlochry. Would love to hear from anyone out there also researching these folks!

Karen

Re: Family name Scotland

teched — 2003-12-22 07:31:33Z

Hello Marilyn

Searching the Scotland surname and find very little. Margaret Scotland is my wifes GG Grandmother. We believe she was born abt 1828, perhaps in Falkirk Stirling, Scotland. On April 16 1848 she married William Witherspoon in Falkirk Scotland and they had 6 children - Margaret, Catherine, John, William, Alexander, and Walter.
William Witherspoon, born May 1865 married Jane Raynolds and they had a daughter Margaret Scotland Witherspoon, born Dec 05 1888 in Dyke Head Lanarkshire, Scotland. Margaret married a William Davidson in Vancouver BC in 1909 (this is my wifes grandmother).

Does any of this fit in the Scotland family you have been researching? If so would love to hear from you.