Jack, I now remember the difficulty regarding the Shields of Indiana Co. Pa.There where several brothers.(ref.-biographies of Indiana Co.)J.W.Shields of Rayne twp. Son of John and Elizabeth (Speedy) Shields who was from Ireland settled in Blacklick twp. appx. 1800 was in the war of 1812 and was employed by the goverment as an Indian spy. J.W. Shields was born 1835 in what is now Rayne twp. , formely WHITE twp. The John S. from Ireland was J.W.'s paternal grandfather. So I'm missing a whole generation J.W. m. Mary Tompson in1861 6 children Annie M, Wilmer w. ,Lawrence t. ,Carlotta, mary B. ,and Robert C. .All members of the Washington pres. Church. there was a Shields school dist. in Rayne twp. I have an old map of the area. and more. Kinter and MYERS all all surnams on that map. got to go i'll be replying thanks mark