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Re: sias family book

rsias_1 — 2009-10-16 04:27:24Z

As I stated before, I don't feel comfortable releasing the data base file in its entirety as it stands. I actually have been contacted by several whom were concerned about ID theft, etc., of living people.

I will be happy to search the file for any information you might request, but cannot simply post the file without the permission of many, many living people - which I now am positive that I would not receive.

Ask what you will - except for a copy of the DB.

Russell Sias

Re: sias family book

greenwithdesire — 2009-10-16 00:38:08Z

I am interested in the data base file. We have the second and third book and am interested in the first one our family had one and its missing.

Re: Sias family tree

dawood01 — 2009-10-11 21:21:20Z

Do you have any more information on your grandmother, Barbara Browne? By any chance, is Jeffrey B. Sias your father?

Thanks,

David Woodward

Re: Sias family tree

dawood01 — 2009-10-11 21:20:04Z

Do you have any more information on your grandmother, Barbara Browne? By any chance, is Jeffrey B. Sias your father?

Thanks,

David Woodward

Re: sias family book

rsias_1 — 2009-09-13 14:59:27Z

Lance,

I have completed putting vol 1 (and now started on Vol 2) into a searchable DB. Will look for whomever, if you want to give details.

I considered putting the DB out on the web, but have decided against it, for there are many still living people in the DB. At present, there are 12,711 names in the file.

Later,
Russell Sias, descended from the Michigan line.

Re: sias family book

greenwithdesire — 2009-09-13 05:56:00Z

My name is Lance Sias, my father is Steven Charles Sias, and his father Ronald Charles Sias, Evelyn Sias, we live in MI. My grandpa has been telling me about these books since i was in middle school, im 22 now, he had a copy but loaned it to his sister who passed it on to her children, we believe she lost it, but im desperate for a copy of these.. Is there any way that you could help me?

Re: New England Sias's

BarbaraNelson57 — 2009-07-13 21:39:40Z

Anyone know the late Ralph Sias, his daughter the late Rosemary Sias Condon. also Rosemary's cousin Mary Ellen Sias. ?
Rosemary and Mary Ellen were classmates of mine back in the 1950's.

Ralph Sias worked at Stone & Webster Engineering in the Personnel Dept I think. I knew him from there.

Thank you

Barbara

Sias family of MA

BarbaraNelson57 — 2009-07-13 21:35:54Z

I am hoping someone can help me find two obituaries .
(1) Ralph Sias who lived in Reading Ma.
(2) His daughter Rosemary Sias Condon.
I unfortunately don't have a clue when either of them died.
Rosemary would be about 67 or so today if living. We were clasmates at RMHS.
Rosemary and her husband ? Condon had twin boys back around 1960 or so. I think they were living in Reading MA at the time.
She(Rosemary) also has/had a cousin named Mary Ellen Sias, that was also a classmate of ours.

I just learned of Roseamary's death recently, and it was for some reason a real shock.

If anyone knows this information, and they would rather, they can e-mail me directly at barb19401@verizon.net.

Thank you so much

Barbara

Re: sias family

pkirk48 — 2009-05-12 16:26:10Z

I have the Hunter line. Email me and I'll send it to you.

Re: sias family book

rdillard129 — 2009-05-12 15:47:11Z

Fred, I am interested in purchasing Vol. II and III. Please submit total cost for the two plus shipping cost to zip code 72687. Many Thanks.

Sias Family in AMERICA

rdillard129 — 2009-05-12 15:09:05Z

Fred Sias Jr. I am still interested in purchasing Vol. II and III. Please email price including shipping cost. Thanks,
R. Chapman

Re: Hattie Sinclair Sias, b. 1863, Midland, MI

rsias_1 — 2009-04-19 22:57:05Z

Sorry! Second sentence should have read:

They had 6 children, Frank, Myra, Charles, Wilbur, Harriet, and Harry.

Re: Hattie Sinclair Sias, b. 1863, Midland, MI

rsias_1 — 2009-04-19 22:54:04Z

I show a Harriet Sinclair SIAS, b. 18 Apr or May 1863, Midland, MI, m. 23 Jun 1888 to Frank Albert TOWNLEY. They had 6 children, Frank, Myra, Charles, Wilbur, Harrier, and Harry. Her parents were Samuel SIAS Jr. and Mary Elizabeth SINCLAIR. She was the third of eight siblings. She was a teacher in Midland, MI.

Charles TOWNSLEY (above), b. 24 Jul 1894, Midland, MI, m. Fawn BROWN, abt 1918. They had 4 children, Frank Ellsworth, Roderick Bruce, Nancy Fawn, and Justen Dean. His parents were Ellsworth BROWN and Caroline HOFFMAN. He was the third of six siblings.

Later,
Russell SIAS
RussellSias@gmail.com

Re: Hattie Sinclair Sias, b. 1863, Midland, MI

AmericaTortures — 2009-04-19 18:31:15Z

Thanks for your reply. Since 2002 or whenever that message was posted I have learned that I was mistaken about Frank. He was no relation to the Hattie Sinclair Sias I am seeking.

Sias Family in America, A. B. Sias, Vol 1, (1953) entered!

rsias_1 — 2009-02-05 18:05:23Z

I have completed entry of Volume 1 into a DB of the Sias Family in America by A.B. Sias. I do have the other two volumes, and will consider entering those as well eventually. This has a sizable project, and so I may take a few days off! Dr. A.B. Sias did us all a HUGE favor by publishing his genealogy work. We owe him big time for his fantastic effort!

Presently, the DB has 12,503 names in it, with only a few pages of personally collected names in it given to me by Mary Sias that I put off entering till I finished Vol 1. I will search the DB by name for whomever might ask - as time permits.

Hopefully, shortly, I can get the file onto a web site so that all whom are interested may have access to it. Will keep you posted on that effort. This will be the next step in my efforts, before I begin with Vol 2 & 3 - which I do have.

In this DB file, is my own earlier personally collected information. My line is largely from the Pacific Northwest. I added approximately 7,000 names, extracted from Vol 1 that I added to my own information.

I use Ancestral Quest, ver 12.1, so you might have an idea of how it can be searched of you are familiar with it. I tried to enter in the notes section what I considered pertinent information. More details could be entered than what I did.

Having the volumes, I can always go back are review the page in the original volume, verify my typos, or add further notations.

Later,
Russell Sias
RussellSias@gmail.com

Re: Correction

bobsher89 — 2009-02-05 00:12:22Z

Any info on Millard Franklin Elkins greatly appreciated
New email address
blelkins@charter.net
Thanks

Re: "The Sias Family In America" Books

rsias_1 — 2008-12-23 04:30:29Z

The following letter is in Volume 1 of A.B. Sias's "The Sias Family in America", 1953. It comprises pp. 408-415. I felt it important enough to post here. (I will proof-read it one more time, but some of the mis-spellings you will see exist in the letter as entered on the pages listed.)

RussellSias@gmail.com
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Letter from Mr. Hattie Sias Hutchings to the numerous family of Sias. 1926

“As a little girl I used to hear my father say that our name was French and was originally spelled Sieyes. He did not know the pronunciation. The spelling was gradually changed first to Cyas, then to Sias, and for over 200 years has remained thus. My father had a drawing of a family tree with the name Sieyes in the trunk. The only names in the branches which I can remember were Solomon and Clement. We came across the tree in 1917 at the time of Father’s death, but laid it away for future reference, and have been unable to locate it since.

I had often thought I would like to trace the Sias family to the first settler, but did not know how to go about it without spending considerable money. Cousin Anna Sias one day wrote that she often thought of writing to the Postmaster at Danville, Vermont, where grandfather was born, and asking if there were any Sias descendants there. So one day I wrote such a letter and was rewarded by receiving a reply from Samuel Currier whose brother was the postmaster. These men are descendants of Archelaus Sias who was great grandson of the original settler. There are so many in this genealogy by the same name that to read this intelligently one must follow the charts. The Roman numerals indicate the generations.

Mr. Currier wrote me that a Mr. H. P. Moore of New York City had been compiling a genealogy of the Sias family in 1910 and gave his address. He also sent some data relating to the 3rd generation of Sias brothers but could go no farther back and was not sure that these brothers, one of whom, Benjamin was his ancestor, were in the Revolutionary War. He knew nothing of Nathaniel, but he sent the data of Benjamin Sias and Achsah, with names and dates that tallied with my father’s. This record was among their family papers but he knew nothing of the antecedents or descendants of this family. I wrote to the Moore address and received reply that Mr. Moore had completed, not a Sias but a Moore genealogy, but that there was much material about thee early Sias family as some of the Moores had married members of the Sias family.

So I sent for the “Ensign John Moor” genealogy and from it have procured much of the early Sias history.

In the reign of Henry IV of France, 1598, the edict of Nantes had been issued. This edict granted full political and civil rights to the Huguenots but during the 100 years following this edict, the persecutions began again and the “puritans of France,” as the Huguenots have been called, were hounded from their homes. In 1685 Louis XIV annuled this edict and with many others the Sieyes family was expelled from France. Many time they allowed the congregations to remain in France but expelled the preachers. This had led me to wonder if some members of this family were not ministers. There seems to be a tendency to that calling in the family. This family spent some time on an island near France, probably the Isle of Jersey, the property of England It has been written of these expulsions:

“The result of the King’s madness was just such as might have been expected . . . The persecuted Huguenots, seeking the liberty which was so dear to them, fled to Holland, Germany, England, Switzerland and the American colonies, giving to those countries the benefit of their superior skill, intelligence and moral worth. What France lost the other countries gained.”

The family of Sieyes was three times expelled and three times recalled but refused to return the third time. Three brothers emigrated to America, two going to New England and bone to the West Indies. Some of the Sieyes family must have remained in France and retained the Catholic faith as in the time of Napoleon the Abbe Sieyes was very prominent, being consul with Napoleon and helping to draft the constitution.

When we first came to Springfield there was a prominent physician here by the name of Henry Seys. My6 husband became quite well acquainted with him. It now develops that he as a sone of Rev. John Seys, missionary, who was a descendant of the West Indies Seys. In the West Indies the name Sieyes became shortened to Seys. Thus we rub shoulders with our own kin all unknowingly. Could we trace back all our ancestry, how many might we find among acquaintances and friends who are related by that distant family tree. Other descendants of this branch of the family are Mrs. J. W. Phillips of New Rochelle, N. Y., and her sons, C. Coles Phillips, artist, and Frank H. Of the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western R. R. Mrs. Mary Ellen Seys Buss, Bakersfield, Calif., is another descendant.

Mr. Moore was able to trace one John Sias who proved to be our ancestor. He could not trace the other. Probably were no heirs in the male line or the name became changed beyond recognition. John Sias married Ann Pitman 1698. They lived in Durham, Dover Colony, N. H. Hew England was but a wilderness then. This was three quarters of a century before the Revolutionary War. Only a fringe of small Settlements were along the coast and the larger river courses. Few trails were blazed through the wilderness. Hostile Indians lurked in the forest. It took stout hearts and intrepid spirits to brave the dangers of an untried world. Ann’s ancestors had been here for three generations, some of the first coming over about 1623. The settlers had block houses, forts, and even caves wherein they took refuge at various times from Indians. Some of the Sias family served as scouts, a necessary occupation at this time.

Ann Pitman was born in 1672. She was the daughter of Wm. Pitman and Ann Roberts and the grad daughter of Wm. and Ann Roberts. Wm. Roberts is the most remote ancestor found. The maiden name of his wife is not known. He owned land on the south side of Oyster River, (now Durham) N. H., near Cutts Hill. In 1664 Roberts gave a deed to Wm. Pitman, his daughter’s husband. The price was 16 pounds. Here the Pitmans lived many years. The southerly end of the farm is still called the Pitman field. Ann’s father was a blacksmith. Her grandfather, Wm. Roberts, was killed by the Indians in 1675, one hundred years before the Revolutionary War, in the first clash of what was known as King Phillip’s War. Her father, Wm. Pitman, was born about 1632, probably in England. Ann had a half sister Mary, and half brother, Ezekiel, and own brothers and sister, nine; John, Frances, Nathaniel, Joseph, Elizabeth, Abigail, Zachariah, Hannah and Judith. The brother Joseph was killed by the Indians in 1704. He left a widow and six children.

Ann was ten years old at the time of her father’s death. At the age of 17 she raked hay on the farm of Wm. Follet. She married John Sias (spelled Cyas then) at the age of 26. Many Huguenots settled in that part of Hew Hampshire. The Oyster River colony was afterwards divided to form the town of Lee. In 1715-16 John Sias signed petitions for the incorporation of Oyster River as a parish so they could have a minister and a school master, the two things which went hand in hand with the New England settlers. He signed by his mark, showing he had not had the advantages which he was now anxious to give the coming generation.

John Sias and John Sias, Jr., were in 1722 grantees of the new town of Rochester, N. H. L. . . . The old Sias homestead was probably close to Turtle Pond, which is north of Wednesday Hill in Durham, less than a mile from the home of the daughter Hannah who married Ensign John Moor. Between the tow places at a corner of the Mast Road is the oldest cemetery in Lee. Undoubtedly there rest John and Ann Sias, the original New England ancestors. So far as known they had eight children. First Hannah who married 1719 Ensign John Moor . . . (Here Mrs. Hutchings gives the history of the first Sias family, which has already been given in similar detail.) Mr. Moore which has already been given in similar detail.) Mr Moore says of the family of Hannah and John Moor: ‘The patient self denying father and loyal thrifty Huguenot mother lived to see each of their children will to do and of high repute in the community.’

The son of John the first, John, Jr., married Hannah Sampson in 1728. In Abers ‘Story of the Pilgrim Fathers’ it mentions among the Mayflower passengers a boy named Henry Sampson. In Gov. Bradford’s notes he says, ‘In 1650 he had seven children.’ I cannot help thinking Hannah, born 1710, was a descendant of his. I hope some interested Sias descendant will some day try to trace this. (Then Mrs. Hutchings has written in pencil” This has been done and Hannah was a descendant of Henry Sampson, the little boy of the Mayflower.)

In the Moore genealogy there is record of four children of John and Hannah Sias . . . (Repetition of material on Abigail, Charles and Capt. Benjamin.)

Mr. Moore records a 4th child of John and Hannah Sias as Nathaniel, with these words” “Of whom nothing is known.” now it is the good fortune of all of us that Uncle Frank Sias, Hillsboro, Oregon, had a record that begins where this leaves off. His record reads:

Sieyes from France about 1700

Benj. Chas. Nathaniel
ch.
1. Jeremiah 1. Chas. 1. Benjamin Jeremiah
2. Sam’l 2. Nathaniel 2. Nathaniel
3. Archelaus 3. John Grandfather-Jeremiah
4. Solomon 4. James Benj. Franklin
5. John & others Wm.

So this Nathaniel of whom not much is known is our ancestor. Mrs. Mathewson (Mrs. Amelia Sias Mathewson) is corresponding with Mr. Moore, wrote that he disappeared and was never hear from. Uncle Frank has the same tradition. As New England was a wilderness except in settled spots, infested with many savage Indians, it is easy to conjecture what might have become of him. It is also useless. This much is known. He lived in Lee, New Hampshire. His wife was Abigail, perhaps Sherburne, and they had two sons, Benjamin and Nathaniel. Nathaniel was born Sept 10, 1770, in Lee, according to the Pinkham genealogy. Mr. Cheswell, writing from Newmarket, H. H., says Nathaniel’s daughters lived in the neighborhood where he was born. (Nathaniel, Jr.’s)

We can conclude that he (National, Sr.) Admired his brother Benjamin, he of the Revolutionary fame, and named his first son for him, giving his own name to the second son. After the father’s disappearance and probably the mother’s death, the two boys much have gone to Danville, Vt., to be with or near his good uncle.

We find in the record of Mr. Currier and also Mrs. Mathewson the data that corresponds with my father’s concerning the marriage of Benjamin Sias and Achsah Whittier; Mr. Currier and Mrs. Mathewson did not have the sir name of Achsah. From Mrs. Joyner Whittier, descendant of Adams, N. Y. , I obtained the data concerning Achsah. She was the daughter of Capt. David Whittier and Abigail Morrell. He was born in Methuen, Mass., was captain in Jeremiah Blanchard’s Co., Col. Thomas Poor’s regiment. Discharged Oct 12, 1778. There were ten Whittier children. All descendants are eligible to the D. A. R.

Benjamin and Achsah had five children: Jeremiah, Abigail, Achsah, Wm. And Benjamin Frank. (See Chart.)

From Everett Stackpole genealogy, Bradford, Mass., 1913, letter to Moore, occurs this:

Children of John Sias, Jr.

1. Abigail.
2. Benjamin, lived in Canterbury, N. H., Danville, Vt.
3. Nathaniel, married Abigail, lived in Lee, N. H., having son Major Nathaniel.
4. Charles, lived in Canterbury, had son Samuel.
Now this Major Nathaniel was brother of our great grandfather Benjamin. Of his descendants I am not sure, but there is an old man named Alfred Sias, living in Pittsburgh, 5225 Dyke St., who wrote to Uncle Frank some years ago. He had two brothers, George and John, now dead. All three were in the Civil War. Alfred writes me that his family records are lost. He says his father’s name was Nathaniel and grandmother’s name, Hannah. His father had three brothers, Daniel, Lovell and William. William had a daughter, Margaret, who married a Civil War veteran named Kepple. Azariah Sias came in contact with George, brother of Alfred, some years ago and George said that all he knew of his ancestry was that his father and grandfather were named Nathaniel. Alfred says his father came from Vermont. He was lumber man on the Genesee River.

Now putting the dates and names together, it would seem that Nathaniel Sias, (brother of Benjamin who married Achsah Whittier) was the grandfather of this Alfred, George and John (see page 2 in genealogy) and that this Nathaniel (born 1770) got his rank as Major in the War of 1812, as he would have been 42 years old then. I cannot verify this. Perhaps someone can at some future time.

John C. Sias of Pittsburgh, brother of Alfred and George mentioned above, wrote Azariah B. Sias in 1904 that, “My Grandfather Nathaniel Sias had two brothers, John and Charles. My Father’s name also Nathaniel (dead), his brothers Lovell, William and Daniel, Sister Eunice.” This would make their grandfather Nathaniel a son of Charles Sias, Sr., brother of Nathaniel, Sr., and Capt. Benjamin, and not Major Nathaniel, who had no brothers, john and Charles.)

In the History of Canterbury, N. H., we find our Nathaniel signs a petition in Lee in 1765 with (his uncles) Solomon, Joseph and Samuel. In “Landmarks of Ancient Dover” it says” “A spring about 30 rods from the Sias house is still called the Sias spring, 1892.” Capt. Benjamin Sias was dark haired, dark eyes, strong, lean frame. In deed of Chas. Sias to John Sias, (his son) dated July 1, 1803, Orleans Co., SS. Derby, Vt., appear these names as witnesses, Charles Sias, Jr., Nathaniel Sias. (This is the Nathaniel who is the grandfather of John C., George and Alfred of Pittsburgh, and right here in this one deed you have the three brothers, John, Charles, Jr., and Nathaniel as given in the letter of John C. Sias of Pittsburgh back in 1904.) Charles Sias, Sr’s old home overlooked Lake Memphremagog.

I find most of our ancestors are every day, dependable sort of people, fitting into the life of the community and bearing their share of the community responsibility. Few were great or distinguished. Achsah Whitter was a cousin of thee poet, John G. Whittier. Of course her descendants are proud of that. All of us are proud of the war record of Benjamin, brother of our ancestor, also of his legislative work.

Going back to the first generation, we find the immigrant, John, leaving the disrupted, religious torn France and coming to the new world, the wilderness which they called New England. In the first generation we find him helping to build churches, schools and roads; helping to lay the foundation for stable Government. In the second generation we find them in the French and Indian War. Later in the third generation we find two (at least six in all) in the Revolutionary War. In 1812 several were in the war, and later, in thee Civil War, there were many of the Sias name and descent engagd therein. We know there were several in the late war. (World War 1.) There was an aviator, Donald Sias, who is a teacher in Ypsilanti High School. His descent I am not able to trace. (Later he was in the Legislature in Michigan and was burned in a hotel fire. There was also another Donald Sias, an aviator from California, in this war.) Many occupations are represented among thee Sias Descendants; farmers, preachers, factory hands, teachers, doctors, engineers and tradesmen.

Not much is told of John Sias, Jr. Of Nathaniel, who disappeared little is known. Of Benjamin and Achsah scarce any tradition comes down. There children early left the state of Vermont. They, themselves, are probably buried in Danville in unmarked graves. Grandfather was tall, with brown eyes and strong build. Of our grandmother, Mary Chapman, we know she was born in New York City. Her parents came from England and were married on the way to this country. She was a blue eyed blond. She died at the age of 38, being the mother of eight children and stepmother of five.

Of the present generation I have given addresses and occupations where known. You will notice by the addresses that the Sias family has been a migratory tribe. From the time the first John sailed across the ocean for the new and almost unknown world, down tot he later generations, the Sias people have pushed on to new country. In the third generation we find Benjamin and Charles pushing into the wilderness of Vermont. Nathaniel’s children followed, and their children, too, felt the urge, and so to Pennsylvania went thee Nathaniel, Jr., descendants and to the eastern shore of Lake Ontario came our grandfather, Jeremiah. Thus it was that the descendants of one lost all track of the descendants of the others. Thus it was that the record went to Mr. Moore, “Nothing is known of Nathaniel.”

Henderson, N. Y., must have been very wild and primitive in grandfather’s time. I have heard my father tell of the Indians who sometimes came there. My father attended the little school at Stoney Creek, District No. 11. We also went there until we left the farm and moved to Ellisburg, N. Y. Uncle Jerry, Uncle Frank, Uncle Daniel, Uncle Charles, Uncle Holland and Aunt Puella all felt the urge toward the West, some of them changing residence many times before settling. Uncle Frank is now living in Oregon and Uncle Daniel in Michigan. Uncle Jerry is buried in Dakota. His large family is scattered in many states. When these uncles first followed thee western Impulse, the country was then quite primitive, few or no good roads, soil unbroken, and a vast stretch of unpopulated country. The descendant should be proud of these sturdy, courageous pioneers.

I should have been glad to have told in my genealogy, the occupations, offices and schools of the descendants, but it would require too much letter writing, too much asking for information, too much making a nuisance of myself to my kin. Some other descendant may find time, opportunity and finance to go deeper into this work and supply the missing links in the chain, all of which would be very interesting. I have felt an impelling desire to let the other descendants share in what I have accumulated. If any of the Sias family have more information, it will be gladly received by me at any time. I shall be glad to make my individual history complete. Azariah Sias, a descendant of Charles (third generation), who was in Stanford University, California, last year, is thinking of sometime getting up a real genealogy. Luck to him.

Sincerely your kindred,
Hattie Sias Hutchings
518 West High Street
Springfield, Ohio"

Re: "The Sias Family In America" Books

rsias_1 — 2008-12-13 21:23:28Z

I am now entering the information from volume 1 into a DB. I am about half way through, pp. 355 of the first volume. All three volumes are about the same size.

I do have two Giles so far entered, although neither connect as you have described.

Keep it touch, perhaps as my effort goes along, I will find more info for you.

Russell Sias
RussellSias@gmail.com

Re: Origin of the surname SIAS

2006-11-14 00:34:47Z

Re: Origin of the surname SIAS

2006-11-12 06:12:17Z

With kind consideration for everyones feelings, as knowing our lineage (and therefore our duties) is important, I believe you are in error.

The Sieyes of France were ever Roman Catholic's...not protestant/huegenot of any stripe, until relatively recently in the historic sense. The landed gentry knew where their bread was buttered, after all.

Sias is not a version of Sieyes (pronounced see-yez, accent grave on the final 'e'). There are Sieyes and 'de Sieyes' all over the world...and they are not Sias.

You will find a Norman 'John of Sieyes' in the Doomsday Book.

You will find a Sieyes in the roles of the Great Armada of Spain (where you would assume a 'Sias' might be) who washed ashore in Northern Ireland to start the Sieyes clan there...and thence to America (if you would look anywhere, I would look there for your 'provenance' of a Sieyes).

You will find the venerable Abbe Emmanuel Joseph Sieyes, the RC priest and teacher of royalty at Marseilles, before he joined the ranks of the citizenry and wrote 'What is The Third Estate'.

You will find 'Sieyes' and 'de Sieyes' emigrating from the port of Le Havre to New York city and even Canada...but they were never mistakenly renamed or 'anglacized''. The Canadian 'de Sieyes' won't be found as such upon embarkation on the French side of the pond, because he (my grand-father) used his family name only and not his title.

A book, written by a Sias, describing the only link to the Sieyes himself and without any documentation is not proof, but hope.

As such, I leave you in kind regard and hope you find such proof. Knowing where you come from is often the missing key to facets of your personality you can't otherwise account for. :~)

"The Sias Family In America" Books

Dharr55 — 2007-01-20 07:33:34Z

I just purchased all three volumes of the books written by Azariah B. Sias from timelessgen.com if anyone is interested. They are copies made from the books.

Re: nationality

emaress_nova — 2008-10-26 20:37:20Z

I believe, from the research I have done on the family, that the original spelling was Sieyes and it was French. They came here as French Huguenots in about 1697. My husband was about the 10th direct generation from John Sieyes. Some people pronounce it as Sayess and others pronounce it as Sigh-yes. He pronounced as the latter.

Mary Sias

Sias Family in Minnesota

jimcook402 — 2007-02-10 20:18:18Z

I am looking for anyone researching the Solomon S. SIAS family. Solomon married Esther Ann Ricker in 1851 in Maine and had at least one son before leaving Maine for Minnesota in about 1870 to 1875.

The son, Deforest Jeremiah Sias married in 1877 in Minnesota, my gr grandaunt Lucy Ann Mitchell. She died shortly after and Deforest ended up in Oregon.

Jim

Re: Origin of the surname SIAS

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2006-11-12 11:30:13Z

I never mentioned religion, and you've missed the point of my message: that you can't know the origin of a SIAS in the U.S. until you've identified the immigrant.

As for "hope," I can't imagine why anyone would "hope" they were French SIEYES. It's most likely my Maryland SIAS'es are English, and that suits me fine.

P.S.
It's biologically absurd to believe that any one person who is (for example) ten generations back has anything to do with your personality when they've contributed only 1/1024th of your genetic endowment.

off topic

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2006-11-14 12:20:30Z

I have a graduate degree in biology, so I'll stake my knowledge of genetics against yours any time. Your statements about genetics are nonsense, but it's not my job to educate you and bring you out of the 19th century and into the 21st.

Re: Family link

johnct_1 — 2007-11-20 21:55:37Z

Well, I found an Andrew married on Decemebr 18, 1905 in BKLYN. Could be Grandpa's father or I also found a Andrew Sias born 1875 living in BKLYN. But this guy's father was born in Ireland (married Ann Grady). I thought I always heard that Grandpa's father was born/lived in the Boston area. But I do think that his father and his father's father was named Andrew. No one seems to know anything concrete beyond Grandpa. I also found an Andrew born in Rollingsford, Stratford, NH 1875 - this sounds more promising. His Father was Sylvester Sias, b. 1842/43/44 born in Dorchester, Norfolk, Mass

Re: Hattie Sinclair Sias, b. 1863, Midland, MI

nehilamy — 2008-03-12 21:50:43Z

I am descended from Hattie Sinclair Sias and Frank A. Towsley, who actually was a doctor in Midland. I am curious as to where you have gotten your information as I can not verify the connection between Hattie and Ella Blanche, finding no birth record for her in Midland. Thanks--

Bill Gilliam ~ Frances C C Sias

DustStorm21 — 2008-05-22 19:23:16Z

I'm trying to obtain information on my father-in-law but the family knows very little of the family history. I can find a lot of Gilliams but nothing matching with Sias. Below is the information I have been given but unable to find a match with so far. (the Sias connection is at the bottom)

John Gilliam (b. 5 June 1915 d.15 April 1977 Hewett, West Virginia) m. 1932 Grace Matney (b. 16 August 1917 Princess, Kentucky - d. 6 December 1968)1968 daughter of John Matney (1882- ) and Nancy "Nannie" Sammons (1880)
Children:
Paul Gilliam (b.21 March 1935 - died infant)
Robert Gene (b. 3 April 1936 - 1987)
Virginia Eileen (b. 2 ??? 1937 - died infant)
Gus "James" Thomas (b. 27 ??? 1938 - died infant)
Living male Gilliam (1940)
Living male Gilliam (1945)
Living male Gilliam (1947)
Living female Gilliam (1948)
Living male Gilliam (1950)
Living male Gilliam (1952)
Living female Gilliam (1955)

Parents of the above John (as I have been told):
Bill Gilliam
Frances Cornelius Clementine Sias

This is were I hit the road block. No dates or places are known, but is beleved to be all Logan County, West Virginia. If anybody has information on Bill and Frances pleased let me know through this thread.

Thanks,
Michael Lampe

Re: sias family

smars008 — 2006-11-16 05:04:51Z

Has there been any progress on Vol 4?

Re: nationality

rsias_1 — 2008-11-28 02:34:58Z

Like Fred, I also have all three volumes of A.B. Sias, published in 1953. Like Fred, I also have no further documention than the first volume sets forth - as a theory.

However, when in Italy a couple of years ago, I ran into several Sias surnames. They were from Sardinia. I have not had an opportunity to research this avenue for the origin of the surname in the U.S., however.

In that A.B. clearly stated that he was working with an unproven theory that has yet (still, as of this date) to be documented, I thought it should at least be investigated.

So far, I have located a museum, owned in part by a Sias.

Their web site: http://www.barbagiamandrolisai.it/english/atzara.html

I find it partially suspect that when A.B.'s French Hugunot came to the U.S. that he would within that generation, change the spelling of his name. It is entirely possible, but nevertheless, suspect, at least in my mind.

When I ran into the proper spelling in Sardinia, appearing to be quite prevelent in that area, I thought it was worth a little investigation.

I hope to put the three volumes of A.B.'s in a data base and on the web. The first volume has 666 pages, the second and third are about the same size, and I presently am on page 295 of the first volume.

If anyone is in the process of doing this as well, please contact me! This is a huge undertaking, and we DO NOT need to duplicate our efforts.

Russell Sias,
RussellSias@gmail.com

Re: Esteban Avalos Sias (snack)

quepecs69 — 2008-06-12 08:57:05Z

Hi Esteban, my girlfriend was born in Raymondville. Her last name is Sias and she wonders about her last name. Maybe you guys are related? Her name is Alma.

Re: Sias from Vermont

douglaslloyd68 — 2007-02-16 08:49:52Z

Contact me. I have some information for you Loni Taylor. Your email is "down" and I cannot get this danlady99@aol.com to go through. Hoping you get this email message. David Darius Taylor and Nancy Runnels or Sias is running into my Runnels family. Enoch Runnels married to Frances....in Lee, NH or Canterbury, NH and went to Barnet, Vermont, then to Deweyburgh (West Danville near Keiser Pond), then up to Goshen Gore Hardwick Vermont, then up to Bolton Quebc and back down to Vermont into Berkshire, etc.

And yes this pertains to our mutual hunt for the Abenaki ancestry....

NEED you to communicate with me asap. Douglas Lloyd Buchholz

nationality

pwhritner — 2008-10-04 01:50:03Z

I am trying to find out what nationality Sias is. I was married into the Sias family and would like to tell my daughter what nationality she comes from.

Re: "The Sias Family In America" Books

maryjane1934 — 2008-05-01 23:31:47Z

I have just come across your message and was wondering if you had any interest in the books.
My great great grandfather, John Sias Giles was born in Maine, 1795. His parents were Joseph Giles & Mary Kimball, New Hampshire. His grandparents were Joseph Giles & Mary Sias.
Is there an index in any of the books?
I am interested in the books. Please advise me as to whether you will be printing the books and the cost.
Thank you.
Mary Jane Swartz

Re: nationality

frsias — 2008-10-26 22:03:21Z

Mary:
Volume one of "The Sias Family in America" by A. B. Sias, includes the theory that John Sias in America was a French Huguenot. He was probably a sailor who jumped ship because he does not appear on any known passenger manifests. Dr. A. B. Sias has a large picture of John Sieyes in the front of Volume one.
Do you have any new documentation that would tie the Sias family in America to John Sieyes? I have been to the Geneaology Library in Boston to review the source documents used by A.B. Sias, but I found no additional data. I have scanned some Mormon index CD's that show a Sias in London in 1600 and others elsewhere in England during the 1700's.
I hope to reprint Volume one sometime.
Fred Sias
frsias@gmail.com

Re: nationality

frsias — 2008-10-26 22:02:21Z

Re: nationality

frsias — 2008-10-04 14:35:32Z

I was working on a long email post on this subject and the computer "ate it." I have the three-volume set titled "The Sias Family in America" by A. B. Sias. Please contact me directly and I will post it using software that is more forgiving than the email interface provided by this board.
Fred Sias
fredsias@gmail.com

Re: "The Sias Family In America" Books

frsias — 2007-11-27 02:27:18Z

I own all the remaining books from the three volumes of "The Sias Family in America." The author A.B. Sias was my great uncle and I was given these books by his son when he cleaned out his attic. Vol. 3 is the only volume of which I have a significant number.

I am interested in reprinting Volume 1 and any other volume for which there is sufficient interest. The reprint will be a perfect bound copy scanned from the original. I am currently investigating the quality of scan that I can obtain so that I do not have to typeset the book again.

I will be interested in hearing from members of the Sias family who may be interested in buying a reprint. This will tell me how much I can afford to have the book professionally scanned.

Fred Sias
Woodsmere Press, LLC
Pendleton, SC
www.woodsmerepress.com

Re: "The Sias Family In America" Books

dsias1 — 2007-07-09 02:30:58Z

Where did you get them. Is there any info on the WV Sias's?

Thanks

Damien

I was wondering if anyone found any new info on WV-James Sias

dsias1 — 2007-07-09 02:29:45Z

Its been a while since I seen any active posts on the threads and I thought i would see if any new info has been discovered on the Sias roots in WV? Like if he come over from France or any thing? Every one agrues that he is not the same james in the NH line so I just wondered if anyone had any new info.

Thanks in Advance.

Damien
You can email me directly at $Dsias
@
woh.rr.com$
pardon the extra lines but didnt want anyone to just pull the email address out of the page AND REMOVE THE DOLLAR SIGNS :)

Native American SIAS of Hope Valley, RI, 1881

storknurse — 2006-12-04 12:09:47Z

These names are from: Final List of the Members of the Narragansett Tribe Entitled to a Share of the Purchase Money 1881

Elizabeth Sias 50 Hope Valley, RI
Nellie Sias 15 Hope Valley, RI
Ann Sias 9 Hope Valley, RI
George G Sias 38 Hope Valley, RI

Posted as an act of genealogical kindness by an unrelated volunteer.

Re: sias family

raptercat92 — 2007-12-11 07:41:13Z

also, can u email me a pcopy of the sias book, i wanna know more of my history, son of shawn t sias, not the criminal shawn t sias the one with all kinds of racing tickets lol

Re: sias family

raptercat92 — 2007-12-11 07:41:09Z

also, can u email me a pcopy of the sias book, i wanna know more of my history, son of shawn t sias, not the criminal shawn t sias the one with all kinds of racing tickets lol

Re: sias family

raptercat92 — 2007-12-11 07:39:34Z

bah , sias is black and white, im white, and im shane sias, columbus ohio there is a black sias family as well

Re: "The Sias Family In America" Books

JerryNanRasnake1 — 2007-07-25 18:10:21Z

I would love to buy these books. Can you tell me where I can order them. Jerry Nan

Hattie Dial Sias

bloobird1 — 2007-11-29 05:01:44Z

Hi, I happen to run into your post on Hattie Dial Sias. If you look at this website you will find a lot of information about the Dial family.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvcccfhr/index.htm

Hattie Dial was a friend of my mother (Hattie Barbour) and they lived on Route 1 now called Malcolm Road in Barboursville, WV. It was in an area called Inez at one time and also Ousley Gap. My mother was born in 1905 and Hattie Dial was a few years older. They were very good friends.

The Dial family was large and a lot of them lived on Route 1 for years.

Hattie Dial married my father's cousin, Melvin Sias. They lived in Ohio in the 1940s and I would assume they stayed there. Melvin's brother, Millard, lived in Milton, WV. After Melvin and Hattie were married my father asked them if there were any more pretty girls there. Hattie gave him my mother's address and they corresponded for awhile before they met. That was in 1922.

Here is another website for George Swann who lives on Malcolm Road and he is kin to the Dial family.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swannfamily/

Both of the websites are wonderful.

Re: sias family tree

bigshrimp806 — 2008-01-11 05:06:58Z

Here are some names of sias family members: Marcos Sias (Me), Jesus Sias, Domingo Sias, Maria Sias, Miguel (Mike) Sias, Esteban Sias Jr, Juan Jose Sias, Jaime Sias, Mage Sias, Gabriel Sias, Patricia Sias, Alejandro (Alex) Sias, Margarita Reyna Sias, and Esteban A. Sias. Well, that's all I know. Hope It helps.

Esteban Avalos Sias (snack)

bigshrimp806 — 2008-01-11 04:34:38Z

Anyone Related To Esteban A. Sias? Which is my father. Born in August of 1941. Now he is married to Rafeala H. Sias (My Mom). My name is Marcos Sias. I am the 2nd youngest of 4 children (Jesus Sias, Domingo Sias, Marcos Sias, and Maria Sias). We have an aunt in Raymondsville whose name is Margarita Reyna Sias. If you are related PLEASE reply ASAP.

Re: Esteban Avalos Sias (snack)

bigshrimp806 — 2008-06-20 03:13:01Z

Who is your girlfriends parents and grandparents names

Re: Esteban Avalos Sias (snack)

bigshrimp806 — 2008-06-20 03:12:55Z

Who is your girlfriends parents and grandparents names