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Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

Novalee12 — 2009-07-30 03:54:38Z

So sorry to hear about your troubles. I don't know why the email came back unless you sent it to an old address. You can reach me @ Smokeymtwoman@sbcglobal.net. Novalee

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

CarolSinesBarton — 2009-07-30 02:07:21Z

I tried to send you a private email but got it back. Your second "batch" Sines are my ancestors. According to a descendant of Henry and Amanda's daughter. Amanda's Married name was Neff before she married Henry?? It was spelled kneff in the 1850 census Columbia County, WI. Amanda, Henry and their daug. was living with Amanda's son from her first marriage. I can't go into much more right now. My husband's brother has hours to live--cancer. My husband has colon cancer that has spread to his pancreas. A very bad time for all of us. Thanks for trying to help me

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

CarolSinesBarton — 2009-07-30 01:23:37Z

Novalee, I don't know if we are related for sure or not.
If any of my info is right I don't think we are.???
Not that I would care, There's always room for a "new" cousin or two!! LOL
If you read the latest post from Kathleen, My family is from the second "batch" Sines'.
I do know that my grandpa Sines was a son of Henry Sines who was married to Elizabeth Brown. Several of Henry's siblings descendants have done extensive research of the family. These multiple Henry Sines' makes it very confusing. Records are so incomplete or non existent. All I want to see if there was proof in writing somewhere that my great grandfather was the son of Henry Sines 1777?75 or not. Not for me but for a distant cousin who needs to know for DAR. Thank You.

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

Novalee12 — 2009-07-30 00:56:20Z

Crap! Now I'm really confused. I'll have to read this again when I get the cobwebs out of my head. Thanks for the info. It will give me something to work on for sure.
Novalee
PS: Are we related?

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2009-07-29 22:34:43Z

Hi there,
I'm afraid you have your early Sines families a bit jumbled...which is extremely easy to do.
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The confusion for Sines trackers arrises from the fact that there were actually three closely related Sines families living in what is now Preston Co. WV in the early 1800s.
While we're still not sure if or how the three husbands were related, we know that their Wolfe wives were.
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(1) "Major" Henry Sines was married to Louise Clara Wolfe, d/o John Jacob Wolfe & Eva Christina Wetzel
They moved their large family over to Garrett Co. MD about 1820, settling in the Sang Run area. He was the Henry Sines who died there in 1842. (This is my husband's line)
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(2) Henry Sines was married 1st to Elizabeth Wolfe, sister of Louise Clara Wolfe Sines. They moved theur large family to Muskingum Co. Ohio abt. 1816-1818. They divorced in 1842 and Henry married his 2nd wife Amanda A. (Alderich) Knell in 1843 Indiana.
BTW Jacob Sines s/o Major Henry & Clara, married his 1st cousin Mary "Polly" Sines, d/o Hnery & Elizabeth
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(3) John Henry Sines was married to Abigail Elizabeth Wolfe, d/o George Jacob Wolfe & Nancy Isabella Cameron. George Jacob was the brother of John Jacob Wolfe, thus Abigail was a 1st cousin to Elizabeth & Clara Wolfe. This is the couple that remained in Preston Co. WV.
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Bye for now,
Kathleen

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

Novalee12 — 2009-07-29 21:46:24Z

All I have is a Henry Sines B:c1784 Culpepper Co. VA D: 1842 in ?Sang Run, Allegany Co., MD. Married to Abigail Elizabeth Wolfe B: 12 Dec 1788 or 84 in Shanandoah Co. VA. D: 1872. They married in 1802. That's all I have.

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2009-07-29 19:42:19Z

Hi there,
I'm afraid I don't have anything new to add on this son Henry other then I list him as born in 1821 in what is now Preston Co. WV. I list his sister Abigail as born 1811 but who knows?
I do know that according to his father's headstone in the Rose Hill Cemetery (in Mechanicsville, Cedar Co. IA) the elder Henry was born Jan.14.1775 and died Sep.04.1863.
Wish I had more to offer on your Henry.
Bye for now,
Kathleen

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

CarolSinesBarton — 2009-07-28 22:18:12Z

Henry Sines 1777 wife Elizabeth Wolfe
Henry Sines 1811/12 wife Elizabeth Brown.
Elizabeth Brown Sines is buried in the Pacific Cem. just south of Portage, WI. No idea where Henry, her spouse is buried maybe even there but no proof. Actually no proof that she is there except for an obit in the Poynette, WI. newspaper. Believe she is buried in her son-in-law's burial plot. No record of anyone being buried there. Very incomplete records were kept back then??

Henry Sines'

CarolSinesBarton — 2009-07-27 23:10:42Z

Henry Sines born 1777 wife. Elizabeth Wolfe
Henry Sines born 1811/12 Wife Elizabeth Brown
Henry Sines 1777 is buried in Iowa--don't have my info handy at this time. Mechanicsville, I think??
Elizabeth Brown Was my great grandmother. She is buried in the Pacific cem. south of Portage, WI. No idea where he is buried. Could be there too but no proof!! Thank You

Re: Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2009-07-27 22:43:27Z

I have a number of early Henrys (c.1770s) with sons named Henry, though none listed with those exact birth years. Could you provide a bit more info on these Henrys? Such as their wives names, where they were known to have lived, etc.
Bye for now,
Kathleen

Henry Sines 1777 & Henry Sines 1811/12

CarolSinesBarton — 2009-07-09 17:15:42Z

A descendant of these two Henrys is trying to get proof that they were father and Son!! If anyone out there can help it would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you

Re: Isaac Sines b 1798 Mendn NY

beamsines — 2009-06-19 16:05:54Z

Hi Barbara. Hello Dan.
Barbara, I believe you and I have emailed each other before a couple of years ago. My husband is a descendant of Isaac and Clarissa Sines. In fact I have information for seven generations after Isaac. Isaac and Clarissa had one son, George Henry Sines who married a Nellie Palmer and had a son, Guerdon Henry Sines and daughter, Edith Sines. Guerdon Henry had two wives. The first wife, Mellie Smith died along with their infant son, Carl perished because of a kitchen fire. Hazel the daughter survived. Guerdon Henry married again to Zoe Blanche Hyatt and had a son Bernard Sterling Sines (my husband's father) who was married 3 times. My husband's half brother (18 years older) and his wife are expecting their 4th great-grandchild right this moment. We are in touch with descendants of Hazel. However, we have no information on Edith other than the fact she married a Lewis T. Smith and had a daughter named Vivian born in 1903. Early census showed that Nellie Palmer lived with Edith and Lewis after George Henry died.
I would love to be able to find descendants of Edith but I am short on time. My husband and I are still working (got to pay for college expenses).
I wish you and your families well. Please let me know if you find any new information.
I have lost my emails from when we were corresponding because of a computer failure. Your Sines married into the Moon family, right?
Regards, Bea Sines

Re: Isaac Sines b 1798 Mendn NY

BWeiler9638 — 2009-06-17 21:00:16Z

Thank you, Dan, for posting the information about Philip Sines and Abigail of Mendon, Monroe county, NY. This is a part of my line going back to Peter Johannes Sines in NY in the beginning years of the 18th century.

Barbara Weiler

Isaac Sines b 1798 Mendn NY

haynes194 — 2009-06-17 00:00:38Z

Hyde genealogy: or, the descendants, in the female as well as in the male ...‎ - Page 1149
by Reuben Hyde Walworth - 1864 - 1446 pages
Clarissa (Stanley) b 17 Nov 1811 at Lisle (NY). She m 31 Dec 1845, Isaac Sines, b 18 June, 1798, at West Mendon, NY, son of Philip Sines and Abigail Hildreth. He was a farmer, and they settled at Canton, Mich., where they were living in 1857m and had one child:
George Harvey Sines, b 12 Apr 1848 at Canton

Note: NOT researching this family, found coincidentally and decided to post. I have no further data on this family. dannyhaynes

Re: Wm. & Geo. Sines, c 1797 Bucks, PA

ddarmiento — 2009-05-15 02:07:25Z

Margaret Wort was margaret Werth-Wirth-Wert. She was the daughter of Jacob Wirth and wife Margaret. Jacob was the brother of Valentine Wirth, my 5/th gr.grandfather. Valentine married Elizabeth Hausswirth. They lived in Hilltown, Bucks Co.,PA.

Re: Howard Sines b ca 1836 PA with son Howard G. Sines b ca 1859

Lala3858 — 2009-03-09 22:40:35Z

I think you are definitely on the right track. I don't know how to prove any of it though. I mean, JOHN and MARY? Geez, how many of those must there be??

Good thought on the Howard/Harvey connection. However, I did notice a Harvey Sines, grown, and with a wife in Bucks Co PA around 1900, so don't know for sure. He was born around the same time as our Howard.

My only guess on why Howard didn't get land from Rachel's estate is that he was already in Delaware. Maybe they couldn't find him, or he wasn't interested since he didn't live in PA anymore.

Any other Sines researchers still checking this thread?

Laurie (laurie3858@cox.net)

Re: Wm. & Geo. Sines, c 1797 Bucks, PA

ajweyer — 2009-03-09 21:11:56Z

Danny,
I have been working on genealogy for over 30 years. Howard Thomas Sines is one of the ones I have been stuck on for a long time. I have 28 of 32 of my Great Great Great Grandparents figured out. According to Howard's death certificate in Wilmington, Delaware his father was John Sines of Doylestown. Several of us have been plugging along for years trying to track down this John. His wife is one of my missing 4.
What I am trying to do is start in the beginning with Peter and work down through the 19th century and try and gather as much information as I can on this family. I have used several of your emails as starting points. Luckily a lot of church records survived so we do have some source records.
I know how people jump from one project to another. I am as guilty as the next guy. If you are up to it I would like to see if you have made any changes on the children of Peter and Barbara Seyn/Sein/Sayn/etc. The last list I found showed 10 possible children or at least people with that surname in the area. You can email me at AJWEYER@aol.com if you are interested. Either way when I come across one of your emails I will send you any new information I come up with. I live 3 hours away and all of a sudden find myself with a lot of time on my hands so I am hoping to find that 29th GGG grandparent. Thanks for answering.
Andy

Re: Wm. & Geo. Sines, c 1797 Bucks, PA

haynes194 — 2009-03-09 20:46:15Z

Thanks Andy, I have not been able to conduct very much research on the Sines of PA/NJ but I continue to plug away in fits, stops and starts. Here is an email from another researcher that leads me to believe we are on the right track. The dates don't exactly match but I have learned this is not a large concern as long as the dates are close. I have looked at primary documents filled out by the person giving the info and sometimes their birth date changes from one document to the next. WWI draft registrations many times differ by one year compared to later documents. danny

Danny,
The Israel Sine that I am researching was born May 26, 1840 in Bucks Co., PA. He served in the Civil War in CO.E. 104 Reg.of PA. His father was William Sine b.Dec.5, 1797 and d. Aug. 3, 1887. William and his wife Sarah Ambers Sine are buried in Plumsteadville Cemetery, Keller's Church Road in Plumsteadville, PA. While in the Doylestown, PA area researching the Sines, I stopped by the cemetery to see their gravesite. I believe that William's father and mother were Georg Seyn and Margaret Wort. I am interested in when they may have immigrated from Germany. I noticed that you have done some research into this immigration. I would appreciate any pointers in this area. Thanks, Janice

Wm. & Geo. Sines, c 1797 Bucks, PA

2006-08-21 20:59:54Z

William Sines was born on 5 Dec 1797 in Bucks county PA according to the Nockamixon church records. I place this William in the family of Johann "George" Sines and Margaret Wirt.

I fail to find a William Sines in the census records of Bucks, Montgomery or Philadelphia counties PA in the 1850 census with a birth year near 1797. However I do find in the 1850 census records for Bucks a George Sines, 52, with wife, Sarah, 51, and children Israel, 8, and Elizabeth, 6. This George and Sarah disappear in the subsequent census records of 1860, 1870 and 1880.

A William Sines now appears with wife Sarah and daughter Elizabeth all of near correct age to be the same as the George, Sarah and Elizabeth of the 1850 census.

I submit based on the records that George Sines in the 1850 census is the same person as William Sines in the 1860, 1870 and 1880 censuses. I also theorize his name was most lilely George William Sines.

Note: I have simplified the surname to Sines to signify all the various spellings. Any thoughts or corrections are most welcomed.

1850 Census Bedminster Bucks PA pg 244
George Sine 52 PA Laborer
Sarah 51 PA
Israel C. 8 PA
Elizabeth 6 PA

1860 Census Plumstead Bucks PA pg 593 PO Doylestown
Sine William 61 PA Farmer indexed as Line
Sarah 61 PA
Eliza 18 PA

1870 Census Plumstead Bucks PA pg 548 PO Lumberville
Sine William 73 PA Retired
Sarah 71 PA Housekeeping
Elizabeth 27 PA Assisting

1880 Census Plumstead Bucks PA pg 517B
Sines William Head 82 PA PA PA Retired Weaver
Sarah Wife 80 PA PA Wales KH

Born: Dec. 5, 1797 Baptised: Feb. 18, 1798 Parents: George Seyn and Margaret. Sponsors: William Seyn and wife Barbara. (Source: Nockamixon Reformed Church, Bucks Co., Pa.; Birth and Baptism Records; Pastorate of Rev. John H. Hoffmeier-June 20, 1796 to May 15, 1805.)

Philip Sines,Priscilla Bangs,b 1787,Delaware Co,NY

BARBARA1925 — 2007-03-09 02:51:57Z

Am seeking information about the parents of both Philip Sines b Clifton Park, Saratoga Co., NY and of his wife, Priscilla Bangs, b 1787. Her father was Lemuel (or Lumuel) Bangs who is mentioned in the history of Stamford, Delaware Co., NY. I believe that Philip's father may have been Peter Sines.
Any information about these two families would be greatly appreciated.
Barbara

Re: Wm. & Geo. Sines, c 1797 Bucks, PA

ajweyer — 2009-03-09 19:26:37Z

According to the Doylestown Democrat newspaper:
Sarah Ambers Sine, wife of William, died at Hinklestown on the 25th of July 1884. Her age was given as 85 years and 1 day.
William Sine died at Hinkletown on the 29 of August 1887. His age was given as 89 years 7 months and 28 days.
Andy

Re: Howard Sines b ca 1836 PA with son Howard G. Sines b ca 1859

ajweyer — 2009-03-09 13:16:19Z

Last Friday I made a trip to Doylestown to see what information could be found on the parentage of Howard Thomas Sines. I found something that will help. In the Doylestown Democrat newspaper there is the following entry ..."on 7 May 1860 Mrs. Lizzie Gilbert Sines 22 died in Philadelphia of typhoid fever. She was the wife of Howard"...
In my research at Bucks County I noticed that the Sines name evolved over the years. It looks like originally it was Seyn, then Sine and later Sines. Numerous other spelling were found, the most frequent mispelling was Sayn and Sign. That has led me to another interesting piece of information which will take a little explanation of how I got there. We have traced John Sines of Bucks County in the censuses.
In the 1850 census of Buckingham Township there are 8 Sine/Sines. John Sines household (household number 511) consisted of John 50, Mary 43, William 7, Lewellyn 3, Mary Elizabeth 1 and Catharine 24. The two other Sines in Buckingham County at this time, Harvey Sine, aged 12, living with John Good in household number 338 and Sarah Ann Sines, 18 years old living in the household of M. Jones Bodine, household number 518 which is very close to John Sines.
In the 1860 census of Buckingham Township again there are 8 Sine/Sines. John Sines household (household number 75) consisted of John 57, Mary 54, William 17, Lewellyn 11, Mary 9. There are three other Sines in Buckingham township. Harvey Sine aged 21 and Annie Sine aged 19 both working on the farm of John Fell, household number 85, again close to John. There was also a Rachel Sines aged 19 working as a domestic in the household of Henry Watson, household number 136.
In the 1870 Census of Buckingham Township there are 9 Sine/Sines. John Sines household (household number 243) consisted of John 67, Mary 64 and Howard G. aged 11. Next door was his son William who's household consisted of William 27, Rebecca 22, Harvey H. 3 and Joseph C. 2. The two others are Anna B. Sines 28 working as a domestic for David Fell, household number 273 and Jenny Sines enumerated with Joseph and Mary Fryling in household number 152. Note: There was a 12 year old Rebecca Fryling in the 1860 census enumerated with Joseph and Mary Fryling in Buckingham Township.
In the 1880 census there are only 6 Sine/Sines in Buckingham Township. Anna B. Sine 38 still working for David Fell. William 38, Rebecca 32, Harvey H. 13 and Joseph C. 12. Lastly Jennie Sines was living at her grandmother's who was Mary Fryling.
My theory is that all of these people listed in Buckingham Township are children or grandchildren of John and Mary. That is Catharine born 1826, Sarah born 1832, Harvey born 1838, Rachel born 1841, Annie born 1842, William born 1843, Lewellyn born 1847 and Mary Elizabeth born 1849. Now all it takes is proving it.
The 1840 census entry of Plumstead Township that we believe is John lists three daughters and 1 son. As shown above we have two daughters and one son born before 1840. We have no proof that Catharine is a daughter she could just as easily be John's niece. One of the three daughters was born between 1830 and 1835 which means she could have been married before the 1850 census.
The only child missing in the 1850 census was Rachel who should have been 8.
The children missing in 1860 were Catharine and Sarah Ann who were probably married.
Three more children show up missing in 1870: Harvey, Lewellyn and Mary Eliabeth. All old enough to be married and out of the household.
What has brought me to this point is a Philadelphia death record. Rachel B. Sines born 4 Jul 1839 in Bucks County and died 3 Sep 1907 in Philadelphia. Her parents were John Sines and Mary Bowden. A search of intestate records found that a Rachel Sines who died 3 Sep 1907 had property that was distributed amongst her heirs. Being she was never married it was divided between two brothers and two sisters. William F. Sines, Wife Rebecca of Buckingham Township, Llewellyns Sines and wife Clara of Lambertsville, New Jersey, Sarah Lear, widow of Buckingham Township and Mary Gaylord widow who lived in Philadelphia.
The property that was probated was 2 acres of land sold Rachel for $1 by Mary Sines on 2 April 1880. Which is the same property that was bought by Mary Sines, wife of John, on 2 April 1860 from Joseph Campbell.

question #1: Does that mean Mary's maiden name was Bowden?

question #2: If Howard is a sister of Rachel how come he didn't get a piece of the property?

question #3: There has been extensive research trying to find a Howard Sines in the the 1850 and 1860 censuses with no results. Could this Harvey Sine born in 1838 actually be our Howard Sines born in 1838?

I am going back to Doylestown this Friday for more research. I would like to know your opinion of what I have so far.

Alonzo Sines 1920 Cols OH

ecky1938 — 2007-02-26 06:37:34Z

Alonzo -age 22 in 1920.
married to Helen Flavan-Flavin-( flavien) born 10 aug 1897
Children
Daughter ,Leota age 4
Son Charles age about 1( looking for charles or his children )
lived @ 644 southwood or southward st Columbus OHio.
Please help me with this info.
E-mail ecky1938@yahoo.com

Re: Jacob Sines

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2007-02-21 03:40:14Z

Hi Danny,
This is the list that Carol gave me:
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1 Henry Sines b: 1821 in Preston County, West Virginia
.. +Elizabeth "Betty" Brown b: 1820 in Ohio d: Feb.29.1896 in Pacific Twp, Columbia Co. WI
2 John Sines b: May.23.1838 in Muskingum Co., Ohio d: Nov.29.1920 in Columbia Co. WI
.... +Emma "Emily" Jane Finch
2 Mary Sines b: Apr.30.1839 in Muskingham Co. Ohio d: May.19.1903 in Columbia Co. WI
.... +Jesse Grey or Gray
2 Sarah Sines b: 1841 in Muskingham Co. Ohio
.... +Henry Reider or Ryder or Reiter
2 Martha Jane Sines b: Feb.28.1845 in Muskingum Co. OH d: Apr.10.1906 in Wyocena, WI
.... +Stephen Richard Eggleston, Sr. b: May.08.1834 in VT d: Jun.30.1916 in Columbia Co. WI Father: Benjamin Eggleston
2 Elizabeth Sines b: 1848 in Muskingham Co. Ohio
.... +John Cunningham
2 Jacob Sines b: Jan.1850
.... +Sarah DeGarmo
2 Lydia Ann Sines b: 1853 in Muskingham Co. Ohio
.... +Elizah Holcomb
2 Samuel Sines b: Nov.1855 in Muskingham Co. Ohio d: Apr.20.1937 in Wyocena, WI
.... +Anna Domstrich
2 Henrietta Sines b: Jan.29.1857 in Wyocena, Columbia Co. WI d: Aug.11.1947 in Pamona, CA
.... +James T. DeGarmo
2 Nancy Sines b: Jun.01.1859 in Columbia Co. WI d: Dec.19.1919 in Arlington Co, WI
.... +Edward A. Holcomb
2 Anthony Sines b: 1860 in Columbia Co. WI
2 Margaret Sines b: 1865 in Columbia Co. WI
.... +Daniel Swartz Jr.
.....
Bye for now,
Kathleen

Re: Death certificates

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2007-05-04 04:10:49Z

Hi there,
You said:
"...I'm looking for death certificates for John Sines 1851 -1897 Williams, Ohio...."
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You're talking about John Sines s/o Simon Sines & Rebecca Bishop, right?
I don't have a copy of John's death record yet, until you posted I didn't even have a death year for him, just a birth date: Apr.07.1851.
Where did you get this death year? Do you know WHERE he died?
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O.K., first I should tell you....the STATE of Ohio did not begin issuing CERTIFICATES for deaths until December 20, 1908, so you can't get a pre-1908 Ohio "death certificate".
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However...
Ohio did make it a law to record deaths in 1867, so COUNTY probate courts did keep death RECORDS between 1867 and December 19, 1908. So, if a death was recorded in a Ohio county AND that record still exists...(wasn't lost to some mishap) you could get a copy of a pre-1908 death record.
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I live in Ohio and pre-1957 STATE (& some early county) death records are kept at the Ohio Historical Society in Columbus.
I can tell you this much though; if John died in Williams Co. in 1897 you can forget about contacting the OHS for his record.
You will have to contact the probate court in Williams Co. instead because
a) there simply isn't a statewide index to death records from 1867 through December 19, 1908.
b) While the OHS does hold copies of some early COUNTY death records, it doesn't have any for Williams Co..... yet.
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If you think John died in Williams Co, you can write to:
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WILLIAMS County Probate Court
1 Courthouse Square
Bryan, Ohio
43506-0000
or call:
(419) 636-2059
.
Bye for now,
Kathleen

Old Sines Cemetery, Upshur Co., WV

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2007-06-28 13:50:02Z

Hi there,
While in WV recently, I visited the abandoned "Old Sines Cemetery". It is located deep into the woods on what was former Sines land near Goshen, in the Banks District of Upshur Co. This particular area has gone back to wild since last timbered some 50 years ago. Bears and rattlesnakes are common among the local wildlife of these woods. Many cell phones will not receive service here for 911 situations. .
This very isolated cemetery can only be reached by foot, mule or ATV the last mile or so, via a rough, narrow steep trail.
Though there is a single wire "fence" enclosing it, the site is usually covered with tall ferns so spotting it and the headstones can be difficult, even using GPS coordinates. Only someone familair with the trails around Goshen and the location of this cemetery should serve as a guide.
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The cemetery consists of at least 14 unmarked graves and 5 marked graves situated roughly on top of a ridge.
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The 5 marked headstones are for:
1) John W. Daff/Daft, b:1837 d:1901, s/o Margaret Showalter & Jacob Daft
2) Boyd Daff, b:1897 d:1898 s/o Lottie E. Lee & Syrus J. Daff
3) Alice L. (Gregory) Sines, b:1861 d:1897, d/o Sarah J. Harris & Wyett Gregory
4) Delia Bell Sines, b:1893 d:1895 d/o Alice L. Gregory & Franklin A. Sines
5) Mahala A. Gregory, b:1895 d:1895 d/o Anna E. Friend & David H. Gregory
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I have attached a drawing of the cemetery's layout and photos of the headstones below.
Bye for now,
Kathleen

Re: Henry Sines b:1781, VA

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2008-01-11 00:45:02Z

I have a "Soloman Sines" listed for Henry & Susannah. Have you determined that he belongs to another Henry?
What info do you have on David these days?I have that he married a Mary Craft in 1837, in Kinderhook Twp, Branch CO, MI and had at least four children as of the 1850 census. The of which were sons (Simon, Ridgeway H. & Charles W.) who all died in the CW and whose names are listed on a CW Monument in Angola, IN. Can you confirm or disprove this?
Bye for now,
Kathleen

John W. Sines

KathleenFitzgerald44 — 2008-01-11 14:58:59Z

Thanks so much Nancy! Didn't have any marital info on this John.
Now do you list "Pulaski, Williams Co, Ohio" as his birthplace? NOt sure where I got Pulaski!
Bye for now,
Kathleen

Denzel Sines obituary

jorusi63 — 2008-05-31 14:00:00Z

This was my uncle, his brother, Loyal is my father.

Sines, Denzel

Denzel E. (Ole Ranger Denny) Sines, 86, of Defiance, Ohio, died May 12, 2008 at his home.

He was born Oct. 25, 1921, in Williams County, Ohio, the son of Earl and Lylla (Brock) Sines. He married Alice Louise Ragan and she survives.

Denzel worked as a ranger at Camp Lakota, a Boy Scout camp serving nine counties, for 23 years. He was scoutmaster in Fayette and for Good Samaritan School in Defiance. He was involved with the Boy Scouts for 56 years and earned many awards for scouting services including the Silver Beaver, St. George, Wood Badge, James E. West Fellowship and Light of Defiance awards.

He was a member of Defiance Christian Church where he served as a deacon, a trustee and a youth leader.

Besides his wife, he is survived by a son, Roger (and Joan) Sines of Leesburg, Fla.; a brother, Loyal (and Corrine) Sines of Stryker, Ohio; a son-in-law, Paul Flathman of Bascom, Ohio; eight grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren.

He was preceded in death by his parents; a daughter, Marlene Flathman; a brother, Reuben Sines; and a sister Berna Deane Hill.

Funeral services are scheduled at 11 a.m. Thursday at Defiance Christian Church with Rev. Ken Mulpas officiating. Burial will follow in Pleasant View Union Cemetery in Fayette.

Visitation is planned from 2 to 8 p.m. Wednesday (today) at Lawson-Roessner Funeral Home in Defiance and from 10 to 11 a.m. Thursday, prior to the service, at the church.

Memorial contributions may be made to Defiance Christian Church or Camp Lakota.

Sines of Wardensville, Hardy County,WV

bgongrose — 2002-06-08 17:00:40Z

Iam looking for information on the Sines from Wardensville, Wv. My great grandfather"s name was Charles Henry Sines. He married Sallie T.{ maiden name could be morgan, but not sure.} They had 4 children. Daniel, John, Harry & Catharine, she married Asher Moucheron of Shamokin, Northumberland County, Pa. If any one has information, please e-mail me.
Rose G.

George Sines Family - Monroe, Iowa

mikem1120 — 2009-02-16 14:04:56Z

Looking to find out more about the George and Dora Sines family that lived in Monroe, Iowa circa 1920. Children I have listed are Sarah, Allan, Wareta, Genevieve and Minnie. I believe that my family is related to Sarah.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

Re: Wm. & Geo. Sines, c 1797 Bucks, PA

ddarmiento — 2007-06-27 01:22:05Z

I descend from the Wirt-Wirth-Wert line of Bucks Co.,PA. They were in the Plumsteasd area early on. They were at the Tohickon Reform Church. They surely moved on to other churches by the 1800's. Seyn was a surname found at the Tohickon in the mid-to late 1700's. My maiden name was Wirt.

Re: Jacob Sines

CarolSinesBarton — 2007-02-21 04:22:28Z

The two youngest. Anthony bd.1860 WI. This is all I have on him. Margaret 1863/65 WI. md. Daniel Swartz JR. 11 Oct. 1888 Lodi, WI. Columbia County They had two children Samuel Sylvester and Emma Lewiza

Re: John + Anna (Fley) Sines, 1761, PA

joan_lukens — 2007-06-25 21:41:02Z

wow!!!! I have been looking around for information on Joseph Sines and today I have been in the 1850 census and just thought I would pull up others working on John Sines and Barbara Fry or Fley and got your information. Any help you can give me I would appreciate it. Joseph and his wife (Ann Campbell - which could be wrong) had a daughter by the name of anna campbell sines who Married a Cornelius Lukens whe was born in abt 1822????? i don't have any more of their children again thank you for putting this information in I will keep on trying to fine more my e-mail is
joan.lukens @verizon .net This is my husband family.

Re: Death certificates

nomelpd — 2007-05-03 21:38:34Z

I'm looking for death certificates for John Sines 1851 -1897 Williams, Ohio. Got any? Thanks, Dee

Re: Death certificates

nomelpd — 2007-05-05 12:53:45Z

Yes, I am talking about the John Sines (Son of Simon and Rebecca) Bd 7 April 1851 in Pulaski, Wms Co, Ohio and dd 1 Feb 1897 in (after I rechecked) Ithaca, Gratiot, Michigan.

My information came from a cousin in Indiana who has Hazel Belle's (daughter of John Sines} papers. She says she has the Death Certificate and he died of Pneumonia. I don't have it. I have tried Michigan with no luck, I will try MI again.
Nancy Sines Schultz posted a lot of good information on this family (She shows John's death in Washington, Defiance, Ohio)so I tried to find her to possibly get a photo of John and/or Death record from Ohio.

Thanks and sorry Dolores

P.S. I do have information on Rebecca Bishop from a descendent of Rebecca McCafferty in West Unity, Ohio who does not use the internet. She says Rebecca's last name was Molton. Any possibility?

William H. Sines, Frederick Co., MD

WendyMammoliti — 2007-05-15 14:03:49Z

Does anyone know what family William H. Sines, born about 1841 in Maryland or Virginia, would belong to? From 1880 to 1920, he was living in Frederick Co., Maryland. He was married to Loretta Bertha Stockman and they had 8 children. William died between Oct. 1920 and March 1927.

John + Anna (Fley) Sines, 1761, PA

haynes194 — 2005-10-23 13:26:52Z

Re: Jacob Sines

haynes194 — 2007-02-21 02:46:45Z

Hi Carol, I have only ten children for Henry and Betsy Sines. I have John, Mary, Sally (Sarah), Martha Jane, Lizzie (Elizabeth), Jacob, Lydia Ann, Samuel, Henrietta, and Nancy Luyza.

Who am I missing? dannyhaynes

Re: Sines in Ohio, late 1800 to present

haynes194 — 2003-02-16 04:51:35Z

Hi,
I have a Henry Sines b ca 1787 with a spouse of Susannah b ca 1791 Susannah died in Endicott, Jefferson, NE on 11 Dec 1876. That is the only data I have on this Henry Sines. Do you have the parents of your Henry Sines? Would the Henry Sines b ca 1825 in Blakesie, Williams, OH who married Catherine Warner ca 1845 be the son of your Henry Sines?
Do you have all the children of Henry Sines and Susannah? Any additional information would be most helpful as I have 27 Henry Sines in the 1800's that I am trying to trace.

Re: George Sines Family - Monroe, Iowa

haynes194 — 2009-02-19 01:44:04Z

Well I had that one completely wrong. From the 1925 Iowa Census of Mystic, Appanoose, IA:
George Sines' father is Alva Sines born in PA and his mother is Sarah McNamara b in IA
Dora Sines' father is George Turney b OH and her mother is Martha Rotramle

The Alva Sines MIGHT be Alva Garrison Sines 1849-1929

Here is a note I have from one of the message boards:
Re: Sine(s) research in NJ and PA
Author: chuck sine
Date: 18 Feb 2005 3:46 AM GMT
In Reply to: Sine(s) research in NJ and PA by: Daniel Haynes
Hello,
My Sine/s where from Greene County Pa. around Jolleytown. I have John R. Sines I have three birth dates for him 1798,1807,and 1810. He married Delilah Bland ard 1846. He dies in abt 1895. I think this John R Sines was married before Delilah but this is my thoughts. John is 36 if he is born in 1810 this birth date comes from Bland researchers. I think thats a long time to marry for the first time. According to a book written by Annie Mack called The Mack and Sine Families. There is a little section about John and a sister named Lavina it gives them being born in 1798 they may be tiwns. Also gives Johns parents as John William Sines and Lavina Pethtel. My grt aunt gave this info to this book. I do have a copy of this page. Also my aunt said that we may have been called Siner at one time. But there is no connection to the Sines in this book. So now I am back in center field. John and Delilah had six childern.
1. Ezra Doty Sines 1847-1903 went to Iowa and Kansas
2. Alva Garrison Sines 1849-1929 went to Iowa
3. Goerge Hennen Sines 1851-1914 stayed in Wetzel Co. WVa.
4. Barney Ray Sines 1855-1920 stay in Wetzel Co. WVa.
5. Phillip Shough Sines 1858-1926 went Glendora Ca.
6. Elise Jane Sines/Prentice 1862-1911 Wetzel Co WVa.
I do have lists of wives and some childern for all six childern. Ezra,Alva,and Phillip keep the s on Sines and George and Barney droped it. My aunt has Johns father as John William Sines born 1740 he would have been 70 when he had John R. . I also have been told John William Sines/r was born 1762 died abt 1835 around Greene or Washington Co. Pa. and his father was John William born 1740. The only other two Sines that I found living in Greene Co. Pa. in different times was William that married Margaret Christy and a Adam Sine. These two may be related to my John R.. William was there in 1810 and Adam in 1820. Then John R. is there in 1850 till 1870 when he moves to Wetzel Co. WVa.. And from 1850 back to 1810 I can't find my John R.. I hope I did'nt confuse you. Please feel free to ask me anything and I will share all that I have.
Chuck Sine
Note: 27 Jul 08 by deh Ezra Doty Sines marries Julia Batterson 20 Aug 1878 in Iowa. Aother source has a second marriage for Ezra Doty Sines to a Mary Rose Curtice on 12 Oct 1879 in Plano, IA. But I think the Mary Curtice marriage NEVER happened to this Ezra Sines.

Re: George Sines Family - Monroe, Iowa

haynes194 — 2009-02-17 12:16:00Z

I"m NOT 100% certain, i appears your George Sines is the son of Samuel G. Sines 1838-1914 and Jemima Jane Alward. Samuel Sines was born in OH but his father was from PA, Joseph Sines 1799-1878. I will do some more checking to see if I have anything to nail this down. dannyhaynes

Re: Henry Sines b:1781, VA

fmobolo — 2008-02-13 15:29:43Z

Hello, Nancy

Don't know how much this helps, but the Henry Sines you seek is buried in a long forgotten cemetery just outside Evansport , (Williams Co) Ohio. Found it while helping on my grandparents farm near Bryan many years ago. Have a photo of the marker somewhere. My line descends from Henry Jr, I believe.

Kirk Sines

Re: Henry Sines b:1781, VA

nancysinesschultz — 2008-01-11 14:02:11Z

I never found any other mention of Solomon other then a hand written note at the library in Angola Ind. which said Solomon was the brother of Simon. but everything else I found on Sines family in Steuben Co Ind took me to David Sines who died there in a boating mishap in july 1859.

On the monument at the mound in downtown Angola has three names Simon, Ridgeway H (Henry) and Charles W. Ridgeway and Charles died but Simon lived. He married Catherine Metz in Steuben Co on Feb 22 1866. they had 4 children.

David's daughter Sarah mrd Silas Hotchkiss and they had 2 children.

I have alot of info on all of the children of Henry 1781 if you ever what it i can help you there. I know like me you have worked on the Henry's too for a long time.

my new email address is lmnf@locl.net I remarried in 07 my new last name is Mix.

Re: Henry Sines b:1781, VA

nancysinesschultz — 2008-07-07 15:14:06Z

Kirk, please contact me at lmnf@locl.net, I can help you with your line. Nancy Sines (schultz) Mix

Sines in Ohio, late 1800 to present

nancysinesschultz — 2004-01-13 17:20:15Z

Looking for Henry Sines who was in Fairfield Co Ohio 1920-30 then moved to Hancock Co Ohio in 1840-50. The 1860 census has him living beside son Simon in 1860 in Williams co Ohio. Henry dies in 1861 and is buried at Buck Cemetery in Williams Co. Wife Susanna goes to Iowa to live with daughter Susanna (Samuel) Fourtner. Henry was in the War of 1812 according to cemetery records.

Simon lives in Williams Co and later moves to Defiance Co Ohio. I follow son Martin from Simon's second marriage.

Re: Death certificates

nancysinesschultz — 2008-01-11 14:18:26Z

John W Sines born April 7 1851 Williams Co Ohio and died Feb 1 1897 in Ithaca Gratiot Co Mich. He married Mary Minerva Nusbaum b Feb 23 1856 Bairdstown Twp Wood Co Ohio and she died July 3 1877 in Bloom Twp Wood Co Ohio, They mrd Dec 3 1874 in Wood Co and had one daughter Sarah Ella Sines born Sept 3 1875 Mary was the daughter of David and Mary Elizabeth Grubb Nusbaum.

He then mrd Irene Mae (Potter) Miller in Wms. Co Ohio on March 8 1885. She was born 1870 in New York and died 1941 in Gratiot Co Mich. Had three children Grover, Perry and Hazel Sines.

Henry Sines b:1781, VA

nancysinesschultz — 2007-11-21 00:31:12Z

I am still looking for info for info on Henry Sines that was born in 1781 in Va and died in 1861 in Williams Co Ohio.
He married Susanna Wooten b.1791 Va and died 1876 in Jefferson Co Neb. they mrd c. 1810

they had eight children David, Margaret, Simon, Mary Ann, Susannah, Sarah, Jonathan or John Nathan, and Henry Jr.

I follow Simon Sines, from his second wife Rebecca McCafferty. Simon was born 1818 and died 1896 in Defiance Co Ohio. bewteen his two marriages he had 18 kids.

I found Henry Sr. in Fairfield Co Ohio and Hancock Co Ohio then in Williams Co. name spelled alot of ways.

I have a new email lmnf@locl.net and a new last name
Nancy Sines Mix

Re: John W. Sines

nancysinesschultz — 2008-01-15 00:55:09Z

Yes Pulaski Twp would be right for the birth.
His first wife was Mary Minerva Nusbaum b 1856 Wood Co Ohio and died 1877 in Wood Co. They mrd Dec 1874 Wood Co. They
had one daughter Sarah Ellen or Ella Sines born 1875 in Wood Co Ohio and died 1940 there. She mrd twice Samuel Day in 1892 Wood Co and Roy Vernon mrd in 1929.

1880 Bloom Wood co ohio
David Nusbaum 61
Mary E. Nusbaum 61
George Nusbaum 28
Lester F. Nusbaum 26
Ellen Sines 4 grandaughter

Name: Aaron L Vernon
Home in 1930: Bairdstown, Wood, Ohio
Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: S Ella
Aaron L Vernon 52
S Ella Vernon 54

John W mrd a second time to Irene Mae Potter Miller b 1870 Neversink Sullivan Co NY she died 1941 Ithaca Gratiot Co Mich they mrd 1885 in Williams Co Ohio. They had three kids Grover 1885, Perry 1895 and Hazel 1892

1900
Mrs. Iren Sines
Home in 1900: Ithaca, Gratiot, Michigan
Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Birthplace: New York Race: White
Iren Sines 30
Grover C Sines 14
Hazell B Sines 10
Perrey G Sines 4
Ira W Montague 67 boarder

New Email Address

nancysinesschultz — 2007-05-17 12:03:54Z

my new email address is lmnf@locl.net
Nancy Sines Schultz