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Smithhart DNA

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Posted: 4 Jun 2010 7:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smithhart, Smithart, Smithheart, Smitheart
To All Members of the Smithhart Family and it's various spellings.

My name is Stephanie Ann Smithhart Southerland and my uncle, Ervin Wesley Smithhart, kindly volunteered to give me his DNA, so that a Smithhart DNA database could be started. This Smithhart DNA is currently at ancestry.com. I ordered the Paternal Lineage Test (Y-Chromosome 46) marker test from ancestry.com for $149. The results are listed at ancestry, I believe even if you are not a member of ancestry.com, you can sign on as a guest, to view it. Please note that this test is only for males, so any female that wants her DNA done, has to do like I did, find a close male relative, as my father was deceased, my uncle was the next best source.

What I'm hoping for is that we could get a DNA testing from all the different branches of Smithhart, to see if, we all stem from the same line.

My line is as follows:
Stephanie Ann Smithhart born 1950 IN
Joseph Lester Smithhart born 1910 KY (Daddy's brother is Ervin Wesley Smithhart born 1921 KY)
Joseph Melvin Smithhart born 1882 KY
William Wesley Smithhart born circa 1830 KY
Darby Smithhart born circa 1802 KY

I do NOT know who was the father of Darby born 1802, some people think it might have been Nathan Smithhart, but I have seen nothing to prove or disprove. The following: is the only piece of information that I have been able to find on him -- Nathan Smithart: grantee in deed Marlboro County South Carolina 1803 from George Trawick of Hancock County Georgia, qv; tract on Three Creeks. --

I do NOT know whether I descend from John Smithhart born 1758 or his brother, Darby Smithhart born 1759, or if there were more male Smithharts, that we don't know about, yet.

I DO Believe, that I am a descendant of John Smithhart, the father of John born 1758, Darby born 1759 and Catherine born circa 1760 who married Henry L. Goodman.

I believe that this John Smithhart is the start of Smithharts in America. He would have been born in the 1730s. He was listed: Smithart, John 1 white poll on the 1763 Tax List of Bladen County, NC. To be on this list you had to be at least 21 years of age. We know, according to Darby Smithhart's Revolutionary war record, that Darby born 1759 was born in Brunswick county, NC. John Smithhart born circa 1730s started buying land in Craven County South Carolina in Dec 1771 thru Jan 1775. Any land purchased after that could be him or his son, John born 1758.

The following are articles about John Smithhart born 1758:
JOHN SMITHART ARTICLE
Georgetown, (S.C.) November 20, 1802
On the 10th instant we announced the condemnation of John Smithart, for the murder of his wife--we are sorry to add, that on the night of the 26th ult. he made his escape from Gaol in a manner somewhat singular. Since his condemnation he has been attended by his brother, who resembled him so much that one might easily be taken for the other. On the evening of the 16th inft. the brother of the prisoner informed the gaoler that he would stay there that night, and requested that he might be let out early the next morning, as he wished to go home--the gaoler consented to his request, and on hearing a rapping at the door arose and let out of the room, as he supposed, the prisoner's brother. On going into the room about 12 o'clock, on the 17th instant, he found that the prisoner had deceived him by dressing in his brothers clothes, and had likewise taken his brother's horse, which he had prepared under the pretense of going home.---The brother, we understand, has since been discharged on the Habeas Corpus.
Article from Charleston, S.C. "The Times" printed Saturday evening, November 27, 1802

John Smithart Article
The South-Carolina State Gazette and Columbian Advertiser, 26 November 1802 -- ESCAPED -- From the Gaol in this town, on Tuesday night, the 16th instant, JOHN SMITHART, WHO was convicted of MURDER at the last Court. He is about forty three years of age, five feet six inches high, stout made, short black hair, pale visage, had on a surtout and coatee of drab coloured cloth with yellow buttons, and waistcoat and overalls of white homespun. A reward of TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS will be paid to any person who will apprehend and lodge the said JOHN SMITHART in any gaol in this state, and forward information of the same to JAMES S. DICK, Sheriff, Georgetown District, Georgetown, November 17, 1802.

Since the articles state that the brothers looked so much alike, as well as having a description for John born 1758, we also, have a description that could apply to Darby born 1759, as well.

Anyway, I was hoping, that some male Smithharts would buy the 46 marker test so we could have some comparisons. The comparisons won't tell how we are related, just that we are related. It would indicate about what generation our common ancestor was in, such as 1 to 6 generations which is about 150 years ago, or futher back.

The DNA test results for Ervin Wesley Smithhart, shows that he belongs to haplogroup R1b. The Artisans.
The 46 markers are as follows: (these are the markers you would see at ancestry, only it would be in a nice looking chart)
Location Value
19a 14
19b -
385a 11
385b 15
388 12
3891 13
38911 29
390 24
391 10
392 13
393 13
426 12
437 15
438 12
439 11
441 14
442 18
444 13
445 12
446 13
447 24
448 19
449 29
452 30
454 11
455 11
456 15
458 17
459a 9
459b 10
460 11
461 12
462 11
463 24
464a 15
464b 15
464c 17
464d 17
464e -
464f -
GGAAT1B07 10
YCA11a 19
YCA11b 23
Y-GATA-A10 15
635 24
Y-GATA-H4 12

Please do not ask me about these as I am still trying to read and understand, all I do know at this point about DNA, is if another Smithhart matches, exactly, then we are definitely related and go back to the same person, we just don't know who.

According to what I've read, so far, the 2 columns above Location and Value are: Location indicates the names of the defined markers for each of the locations on your DNA (a particular place on your DNA), Value is each value is specific to that person.

Stephanie Ann (Smithhart) Southerland
Smithhart researcher practically all my life
hartland@hughes.net

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