Swain - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: SWAIN

angel191016 — 2009-11-09 19:21:24Z

hi this is linda marie young (married name king) i am L.N. AND RUBY"s daughter. just to give my new e mail address.so we can keep up with family stuff.ok lots of love
linda

Re: GEORGE A SWAIN

debbiecandelas — 2009-11-09 01:11:01Z

I will send it to your email. Many of us have had a bad year. Let's hope it gets better next year.

Debbie

Re: GEORGE A SWAIN

amanday45 — 2009-11-08 20:45:57Z

If I did, I lost it. My computer finally died and had to get anew. Can you resend, amanday45@hotmail

This has been a very bad year here at home. Sorry I havent kept in touch.

Amanda

Re: GEORGE A SWAIN

debbiecandelas — 2009-11-08 19:35:45Z

I haven't heard from in quite a while. Did I ever send a picture of Julia Alsup Swain to you? Let me know.

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

DFerris19991 — 2009-11-07 23:59:27Z

Hi Dick,

I would like to have a copy myself but have not yet received it.

I do have a request also - I am the administrator of the Swain email list. We've been getting several requests on the list for your document. I'm not sure whether you are a subscriber of the list or not, but if not then you aren't seeing the requests. Usually what we suggest on the email list is that people email the person privately to request a copy. This keeps the list from getting cluttered and people's email inboxes from getting filled up with lots of "me too" requests. Would you possibly consider providing your email address either here at the board or on the list, so that people can email you privately with their requests? It would help out a great deal!

Kind regards,

Dee

Re: GEORGE A SWAIN

amanday45 — 2009-11-07 09:59:50Z

Hi Debbie, yes still looking as much as I can

Re: Swain register report

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-11-06 18:32:58Z

Do you have Swains of Nantucket, Tales and Trails? I copied the entire book and I have now so many relatives I am swarming in them. The report that takes the original Richard Swain back into England three more generations, is The English Origin of Ricard Swaine of Hampton, New Hampshire and Nantucket. It is in The American Genealogist Oct 1999, Vol 74, no 4, pp 241-249. It corrects some misinformation about Ricard that has been written everywhere. The author is Clifford L Stott, CG FASG and lives near me. He happened upon records about Richard and Basill, and did research going back three more generations. It is very interesting as now I can go back to 1497 Sue

Re: Swain register report

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-11-06 17:51:58Z

The confusion was that the first note said that John Swain who married Mary (Weare) Wyer was often called John England.

I am a descendant of John. Please read my other message that I just wrote, as it hasn't come through as an email. This is my lineage-I can go back three generations in England, but beginning here: Ricard Swain and Basill, John Swain and Mary Weare, Joseph Swain and Mary Sibley, Ebenzer Swain and Lydia Giles, Ebenezer Swain and Lydia Ellis, Shubael Swain ( who did not die in 1808- he is in the 1813 will of his parents) and Sarah Turner, Shubael Edgar Swain and Catherine Nagle, Edgar Swain and Evangeline Scherrer, Eva Swain ( my grandmother) and Ray Fish and Carl Vollmer, my mother through Ray Fish - Barbara Jean Maxwell, and myself who married a Maxwell.

The book, Swains of Nantucket, tales and Trails, has a ton of Swwain names in it, including those who moved to other places. I wish these messages would come through. Sue

Re: Swain register report

hswain135 — 2009-11-06 17:40:17Z

Sue, I forgot to give you my reference to the naming. From One Hundred and Sixty Allied Families, Surnames, Q-T, Page 228. "He and his sons John, Joseph and Benjamin, and son-in-law Joshua Sevolle, lived on farms in that section of Nantucket called Polpis. There also lived with him another John Swain, who came from England when young, and who to avoid confusion of names was always called "John England"".

Re: Swain register report

hswain135 — 2009-11-06 17:31:56Z

Sue, yes it is quite confusing. The John Swain who was son of Richard is not my direct ancestor, though there is a path to him through his daughter Mary to my line. There is also a difference of a generation. My Ancestor, John "England" is more the age of John Jr., son of John, son of Richard. My John married Patience Skiffe in 1706 in Nantucket. There is documentation that confirms that he came to live with the Richard Swain family and that he was called England to differentiate him from the original family. As I mentioned, my DNA testing would appear to confirm that as it doesn't match that of descendants of Richard.

I would be very interested in what you find in the records you reference as I do not have those available to me.

Re: Swain register report

1granny1942 — 2009-11-06 16:45:32Z

I would love to receive the report also.

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-11-06 15:40:13Z

I have copied a book called Swains of Nantucket, tales and Trails, by Robert Henry Swain. The first Swain who came over was Richard with is wife Basill. A recent article cleared up some misinformation about him that came from someone with a similar name. It also goes back three more generations into Binfield, England, which is where they came from. Richard and his son John were 2 of the nine purchasers of Nantucket. My Swains came from there into NYC. One son moved to NJ but worked in NYC, and one son moved to Ohio. I have done exensive work on my line, but this book has 200 pages of Swains from Nantucket, and the various places they went. It is very informative. I had to break a brick wall with my ggg to find his childhood home in Nantucket, but once that happened I gained a book of relatives as well as going back to 1497. And you you with people from Nantucket are related to 1000's of people alive today. The few families, as they began to arrive all intermarried. I have read 9 books on Nantucket and these books mention Richard and John quite a bit. The general info that is out there now on Richard is somewht incorrect. But the article clears it up. If anyone is interested in this, let me know. I feel deluged with Swain relatives! Sue

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

pamelastephens20 — 2009-11-06 14:11:27Z

I'd like a copy also. I don't see an attachment..psstephens@aol.com

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

saramac58 — 2009-11-06 11:51:47Z

I would like to have a copy also.
saramac@windstream.net

Thank you,

Sarah

Re: GEORGE A SWAIN

debbiecandelas — 2009-11-06 02:45:00Z

Amanda, If you are still looking for info, please respond.

Debbie

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

gengirl51 — 2009-11-05 17:21:42Z

Hi,
I would love to have a copy of your report, too. Please email it to me at gengirl51@aol.com.

Sandy Swain Dennis
gengirl51@aol.com

Re: Swain register report

tracingroots — 2009-11-05 14:23:43Z

My gr grandfather was a Swain from Texas, Georgia and I would love to get a copy of the Swain Register.

If it is available online, I don't know how to get it.

Thank you,

Brenda Kellow

Re: Swain register report

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-11-05 14:15:52Z

I saw two notes on a Swain document. One said that John Swain, son of Richard Swain and Basill was often called John England, as he was born there. He and his wife, Mary Weare, were both botanists. At the end of this document it said that John England Swain was not of the original family. It was a bit confusing. The first one was called Goodman Wyer and his wife Goodey Wyer. The last notataion was a bit obscure. There was a womans name written under it but it did not indicate if she was a wife. I have alot of information on the Swains in Nantuket. You can go onto their Barney Collections and look him up, which I think I will do now. This was on microfilm 906,499- Nantucket vital records on pp 373 and 326 at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Sue

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

jbells8923 — 2009-08-11 00:09:58Z

Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I don't have a John Swain.
June

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

jbells8923 — 2009-08-08 23:54:23Z

Forgive me for butting in, but I too have an interest in the Swain line of Derbyshire.
Richard Swain b. Heanor abt 1810 married to Harriet b. Nottingham had a daughter Emma born abt. 1840 - Belper. She was my g.grandmother. Does she appear anywhere in your research?
Regards
June

Swain register report

rkspence — 2009-11-02 23:35:21Z

I'm not sure if the register report I referred to in my last thread was actually attached. If not, please e-mail me and I'll send it to you.
Dick Spence

Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

rkspence — 2009-11-02 23:31:58Z

Hello, All!
I have attached the information I have accumulated over 30 years of research on the Swain branch of my family. I have a LOT more information than that which is contained in the attached register report. Most of the facts have reliable sources but others still need work, so any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated. Please contact me if you have any specific questions.
Dick Spence

Re: Robert Henry Swain

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-10-18 13:49:40Z

Well, I discovered that the son moved to Montana and died around 1940. All of the temple work was done in the early 30's using RHS's information. My suspicion is that it was the son who collected the info. Now I have to find out if he was related to the people whose info he collected, as it included many Swains and other in my famiiy line. There is a great genealogist here that may know how to prove this- thanks, Sue. Do you have a photo of your Robert?

Re: IDA SWAIN & HENRY BRICKHOUSE

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-08-05 14:22:40Z

I made an error- her father was Thomas Stockton Swain- sorry about that.

I am in the process of co-authoring a book, so am extremely busy with a deadline. But soon I need to go up to SL and I can photocopy that book and send it to you for the cost of postage and copying. I will have to be going up a number of times, so I am not sure exactly when I can do it.

There are so many names in that book, it will take me forever to put them all into my computer program. I am not getting notified of the messages and they are not coming through on the mailing list- fortunately your first one did. Sue- maybe you better write me at my email address until this new glitch gets straightened out.

Re: IDA SWAIN & HENRY BRICKHOUSE

SueMaxwell17 — 2009-08-05 14:16:33Z

for some reason this email didn't come through on the mailing list. I photocopied the book up at the Family History Library for 6 dollars; when it is available on the net, which is infrequent, it is over 100 dollars.

suemaxwell@comcast.net

Re: Swain register report

scperkins — 2009-11-04 12:59:42Z

Dick:

It was not attached.

I run the Swain DNA study, http://www.ftdna.com/public/Swain/

Please send me a copy of your report.

Thanks,

Steven C. Perkins
scperkins@gmail.com

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

Tina_Crossland — 2009-08-10 20:24:36Z

I Haven't got that far back yet, I am still trying to get further than 1880's, will let you know if there is a connection if I get that far back. I am struugling to find out about John Swain born in Pilsley, Derbyshire in 1867

Swain's family of Chesterfield, uk

Tina_Crossland — 2009-08-10 12:53:54Z

I am trying to trace the family of my grandmother Edith Swain who was married to Alfred Basford, all I know was she was born in 1898 at Chesterfield and lived in Chesterfield all her life.

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

Tina_Crossland — 2009-08-10 12:52:48Z

Thanks Pam
I didn't get to go back to bed, on an hours break from work at moment, one of the good things about being a taxi driver, I can have as many breaks as I want. I have made a note about Benjamin Swain, will see if I end up along the same lines, I am finding it interesting, fun, and sometimes really frustrating when I have chased the wrong person, but it is nice to know there is help out there if needed.

Thanks again

Tina

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

Tina_Crossland — 2009-08-07 09:33:40Z

Sorry Pam, I am grateful, I got grandparents, mixed up, I am half asleep, just got up as I work nights.
Thanks for all the information, you must have thought me a right idiot with that last reply. Teach me to get too excited because someone replied.

Thanks

Tina

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

Tina_Crossland — 2009-08-07 09:27:13Z

Thakyou very much Pam that is a great help, I had got my grandfather's name, but not his wife's maiden name, and I was chasing the wrong John Basford from Pilsley. I am new to all this, but finding it very interesting.

Thanks again

Tina

Re: Swain register report

hswain135 — 2009-11-05 01:28:31Z

Dick,
I would very much like a copy of your report. In particular I am interested in finding the origin of John "England" Swain. He married in 1706 in Nantucket. But I have been unable to find any Swain family in England with ties to him. We know that he lived with the Swains of Nantucket but based on my dna testing was not related to them. They gave him the nickname England "to avoid confusion".
Herb Swain hswain@charter.net

swain family from grantham

manerbait — 2009-10-07 16:11:02Z

I am trying to trace my swain side of the family,
i have got back to a william swain born 1822 in branston, he married a ann judson, the had 8 children and one being my gg grandfather called john born 1855 in grantham.
If anyone has any info please contact me

Re: Lois Anna Swain(Nanny)

shelvsme — 2009-08-20 02:22:36Z

This was my grandfather and grandmother. My grandfather was Daniel Mack Swain, senior and my grandmother was Louisiana Worchester Swain-known as Nanny. They had 5 children. Florence Maxine Swain Horton, Louie Marie Swain Harvey, Anne Ruth Swain Houser, Laura Worchester Swain, and Daniel Mack Swain, junior. My mother, Maxine, and Louie are the only two living now. I have been trying to find the Swain's Bar-b-q logo to show to my son. I use my grandfather's recipe to make the sauce for my family.

Re: Robert Henry Swain

cswain2009 — 2009-10-18 07:18:18Z

another bit of info i know jswain mentioned that my grandfather was a mason, he died from the dust on the stone because theyre made from lime. but my middle name is mason and thats where it came from. anyways hope this helps.

cameron

Re: Robert Henry Swain

cswain2009 — 2009-10-18 07:09:53Z

i think we're related some how, robert was a great grandfather of mine that worked on the lds temple and died while working on it, he is from england and supposadly also was one of those guys who protects the queen and doesnt flinch, has a tall fury hat. anyways...yep

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

pamelastephens20 — 2009-11-05 12:38:41Z

Would you send ne a copy also? psstephens@aol.com

Re: loyd elder swain or wiliam edgar swain from texas and oklahoma

lindaklatham — 2009-08-05 02:52:17Z

Was this Lloyd Swain that died in Brady married to Cora Limpier? If so, I use to visit with them in Brady back in the 1980's. Cora was my grandmother Effie Soules McWilliams cousin. Where did you get the name Mary Isabella Limpier. Mary was also my grandmother's grandmother. I was not aware that her middle name was Isabella. She came from Poland. I would love to correspond with you.-Linda

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

pamsmadhouse1 — 2009-08-07 07:42:51Z

Edith Swain b. Jun Q 1898 Chesterfield District Vol 7b p 678

1901 New Street, Morton, Derbyshire (Rural Dist of Chesterfield
John Swain Head M 34 Coal Hewer b. Derbys, Filsley
Mary Swain Wife 28 b. Not Known
William Swain Son 4 b. Morton
Edith Swain Daug 3 b. Morton
George Curtis Boarder 20 Coal Hewer b. Not Known
RG 13/3242 f 85 p 13

John Swain married Mary Curtis Mar Q 1894 Chesterfield 7b 957

Hope it helps
Pam

Re: Tracing the family of Swain

pamsmadhouse1 — 2009-08-07 11:54:14Z

Hi Tina - was still wondering about your reply when I read the next one - no problem!
Having some spare time I carried on researching the Swain name and have actually traced the family back to a Benjamin Swain b. C1739. I realise that you may want to do this yourself so will not post the information unless you get back to me.
Hope you have had a good sleep!!
Pam

Re: African American SWAIN Families from Georgia (1880-present)

smithinc91 — 2009-10-29 21:35:02Z

do you have any family from crawfordville georgia, laura and george swain, these are my great grandparents. let me know maybe we are related.

Swains of South Normanton, Derbyshire

Nostrodamus — 2009-08-15 15:45:54Z

Does anyone have information relating to the Swain family of of South Normanton in Derbyshire.
Names incluse, Solomon,Thomas, Lillian, William, Samuel, Hilda, George and Elsie. They were involved in the coal mining industry.
Thanks for reading

Re: IDA SWAIN & HENRY BRICKHOUSE

bellofcharleston_2 — 2009-08-02 22:01:12Z

So Ida was married to a Swain before hse married Henry Brickhouse? Do you know which Swain she married???

Re: IDA SWAIN & HENRY BRICKHOUSE

bellofcharleston_2 — 2009-08-02 21:47:39Z

Thanks for the reply...if you will send me your e-mail address I will scan the pix and send it to you..glad to do so..thanks for the info..had nothing but her name..
I am also kin to the Swain's from Nantucket and tried to buy the book, but the man had just passed away and his wife knew of no other available copies..do you know if they have come out with another edition??? I understand that these men came to NC on whaling ships..these ships only went as far south as Cape Hatteras..this is what I have heard..,stand to be corrected...

Re: Swains of South Normanton, Derbyshire

sarahpg — 2009-10-29 07:21:00Z

My gg grandfather Benjamin Swain was born in South Normanton around 1816 but left as a young man and did well for himself in Manchester cotton industry. I have tried to unravel the Swains of South Normanton but got totally confused! Do not have good records as yet so would have to do some digging, I think his father was James, and the names you listed were not familiar but I guess they were all related to some extent! So hello 'cousin'! Would be happy to exchange info and 'dig' together to try to make some sense of it.

Re: Swains from England to Mass Bay Colony - Nantucket - NJ- NC - PA and others

DFerris19991 — 2009-11-05 06:03:41Z

Hi Dick,

I would really appreciate a copy as well. Could you please email it to me at DFerris1999@yahoo.com?

Thanks so much and well done!

Kind regards,

Dee

Re: Charles A Swain -Cape May New Jersey USA

carty09 — 2009-08-08 10:27:57Z

My Grandfather was Robert Charles Swain,died 11/28/07. His father Horrace Charles Swain married to Margerate. All burried at Cold Spring Cemateray in Cape may, this is A historic place my line is from Nantucut origional settelers.after that our branch moved to Philadelphia. Hopes this helps.

Re: African American SWAIN Families from Georgia (1880-present)

elliottfamilytree1 — 2009-10-30 13:44:51Z

Hi, thanks for replying.
You just don't know how happy I would be if I could answer you, YES! But I do not know anyone from my grandmother's family including her; she died before I was born. My oldest relatives that are currently alive who were raised by her don't know or remember either. When I started researching this side of my family last year I discovered census records only back to 1900 that showed who my g-grandparents, g-aunts, and g-uncles are. Right now I'm relying on other people with any Swain connection to read my posts and know my/our family or try to research our connection. Although I haven't tried it yet, but I thinking of posting and searching on sites like MySpace too. I don't plan on letting my researching fire burn out, its just on low keeping the biscuits warm so if you happen to find out something even close, please let me know.

Re: Patience Swain & Alexander Ray?

macksplace1925_1 — 2009-10-30 05:00:21Z

Made a trip to Bertie Co., N.C. on Oct. 27, 2009 and found Alexander Ray's will. A wife is not mentioned but just the children...Joseph Ray, Samuel Ray, Stephen Ray, William Ray, Patience Pender, Mary Hyman, Ann (cannot read her last name) Elizabeth Ray. He named son Samuel Ray and Solomon Pender as executors in the will of November 4, 1769. William Swain and James Groom witnesses (hard to read last name but think it is Groom) Alexander is said to be buried in Bertie Co. but have not found him yet, just started researching in Bertie. Contact me at macksplace1925@suddenlink.net if anyone has information on any Rays in eastern N.C. or of their descendants that moved from the area...it is hard to find/connect the Rays. My gr.gr. grandfather, gr.grandfather and grandfather were Rays and are from Martin Co., N.C. beside Bertie Co. Thanks a lot, Ann McKinney

Charles Swain

kkevans594 — 2009-08-20 02:10:37Z

Looking for info on Charles Swain b. 1820 Devon County, England m. Sarah arrived in US on the ship Persuasion in 1831 naturalized at Natchez, MS 1842. I think his father was John.