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Re: Tempest pedigrees

THRUSHMK — 2009-09-25 21:26:52Z

Hi, Just had a talk with the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. There is also a film with the Tempest family tree on it.(Film# 1559428 Item# 1)
As to why I went looking for it is the marriage of Peter Tempest who disappeared in 1361. Most trees list it as later but not here.

Tempest pedigrees

jschuerman1 — 2009-09-19 22:45:44Z

For some time, my colleagues and I have been engaged in studies of the medieval Tempest family. The results of this work are a set of articles and materials which may be viewed at
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/tempest/index.s...

The earliest Tempest that I know about is Roger, seen in Yorkshire in the early 12th Century.

The latest addition to this website is a transcript of a manuscript by Eleanor Blanche Tempest, written in the early part of the 20th Century. This manuscript is in the British Library (a second copy is at Broughton Hall, near Skipton, in west Yorkshire). The manuscript traces the descendants of Roger Tempest into the 20th Century. A typewritten transcript of the manuscript was developed in the 1930s by Mrs. Tempest’s daughter. With the help of colleagues and an OCR program, I have developed a Word transcript of the transcript which is now up on the above website. Included are over a thousand Tempests and their wives. The transcript is over 700 pages plus an index and includes color renderings of coats of arms and signatures, together with a number of pictures. Also included are extensive descriptions of most of these individuals, together with documentation drawn from original and quasi-original sources.

John Schuerman, Chicago

Re: Sir Charles Tempest m. Harriet Manson Gordon abt 1877 England

Alistair79 — 2009-08-28 06:40:23Z

Hi Mike, I didn't realise that Henry Hungerford was a magistrate though I knew he was 'respectable'. Harriet's second husband was William Joseph King, originally of Buffalo, NY, with a father of the same names. Before she died they spent some time on the south coast and she was involved with some kind of nursing home there and became very popular, and generous I guess as they named a room after her. I learnt all this from a book I found from googling Harriet's name a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I didn't record all the info immediately and now, annoyingly, can't find the web page again.

As for the Gordons, I have all the details of all the ones you mention plus many more as they are all 'my' Gordons who Bulloch always calls the 'Croughly' Gordons from the name of their lands in Banffshire, near Tomintoul. I've nearly finished writing a book about my Gordon ancestors.

Alistair

Re: Sir Charles Tempest m. Harriet Manson Gordon abt 1877 England

mikemurphyam1 — 2009-08-27 17:09:37Z

Hi alastair,

I'd spotted the scandal - quite a story. I've not got anything quite like it in my "tree". (They are VERY remote relations, but I like to follow up interesting leads). This couple had very tragic lives, money notwithstanding - Sir Charles losing his first wife in a fire, and Harriette, after the scandal, marrying William King in 1889, but dying very soon after at only 33. The co-respondent in the divorce case was a very "respectable" man - Henry Hungerford was a magistrate!

I also have Harriette's parents: Rowland Hill Gordon, born about 1834, Nairn Lodge, Nairnshire. Elizabeth Rose Manson, born about 1834, Scotland (too many of that name to be more precise without the certificate). Rowland's father or grandfather (1841 census doesn't tell us) was William A. Gordon, born about 1771, NOT in Nairn. Both were soldiers - Rowland a Captain in the 42nd Highlanders, William, I'm not sure in what.

Sir Charles' 2nd daughter by his first wife,Ethel, was the grandmother of the 17th Duke of Norfolk, (Miles Fitzalan-Howard)the one who died in 2002.

Mike

Re: Sir Charles Tempest m. Harriet Manson Gordon abt 1877 England

Alistair79 — 2009-08-27 11:13:02Z

Hi Mike, many thanks for your response to my 7-year old posting. I always felt I'd get a response eventually. As a follow-up you might like to know that they married on 1st June, 1874 at the Bavarian Embassy Roman Catholic Chapel, Warwick Street, Westminster, London and lived at Ashby Lodge, Northants. They divorced in 1878 which caused shocking headlines in the Times and elsewhere at the time. Harriet died in 1891 in Marylebone. Alistair

Re: Sir Charles Tempest m. Harriet Manson Gordon abt 1877 England

mikemurphyam1 — 2009-08-26 13:24:53Z

If you're still there after 7 years, here is your answer!
Harriett was the second wife of Sir Charles, his first (Cecilia Tichbourne Hibbert) having died in 1865.
Sir Charles (Baronet of Croston Hall) was born 5 Jan 1834, at Croston Hall, Chorley, Lancs, son of Henry Tempest of Heaton, Lancs, and of Broughton Hall, Skipton, a member of the ancient Tempest family of Bracewell/Broughton Hall/Heaton etc. His mother was Jemima Trafford, of the de Traffords of Croston Hall.

Mike

Articles on Medieval Tempests

jschuerman1 — 2009-06-11 22:57:52Z

I would like to inform readers of the Tempest message board of two articles on medieval Tempests, both of which are on Chris Phillips' medieval genealogy website. The first is by Douglas Hickling and me: Tempest Wives and Daughters in the Late Medieval Period and the second is by me: The Early Tempests. Both may be found at
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/tempest/index.s...
I'd welcome any responses to these articles.

Re: Tempests from Newcastle to Sheilds to Easington Lane.

ibriggs2006 — 2009-06-11 22:57:00Z

hello my grandmother was margaret tempest and grandfather william ridley,you can email me at ibriggs2006@yahoo.co.uk
isabel

Re: Sir George Tempest, Tong Hall, Yorks

erika1428 — 2009-01-24 08:16:41Z

I was wondering if Sir George Tempest had a son or relative by the name of Sir Tristan Tempest who also lived at Tong Hall, Yorks.

Aaron Tempest

ibriggs2006 — 2008-07-28 04:40:32Z

aaron was born 1789 his parents were william tempest and elizabeth gray her father was john a farmer from netherburn northumberland william`s parents were thomas tempest and ann hunter.isabel

Re: Marriage of Milford Tempest b: 1872 to Leila E Bramham b:1874

stuartandjill_1 — 2008-07-23 04:43:25Z

Hi there
Tried to email you but it bounced back.

Milford & Leila are my Great Grandparents
There children are:
Walter b.28th May 1894
Harold b. 8th Nov 1900
Robert b. 12th Nov 1908
Samuel b. 1909

Harold was my Grandfather.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Regards
Jill Tempest-Jessop

Vane S. Tempest or George Tempest, Indiana & Scotland

mseseljay — 2008-04-06 21:53:31Z

Hello,
I am trying to locate the heritage of Vane S. Tempest, b 1875 in Indiana, died in Newman Grove Nebraska in 1935. I don't know his father's name, but on the census he states is father is from Scotland. I know also that he had a brother named George who died on Jan 4, 1911 in Mishawaka Indiana. George is buried in Rochester, Indiana. Vane has one daughter, Georgia Elizabeth who was my Grandmother. I also know he ws on trial for assault on jan 19, 1903 in Disko, Indiana, but I can't seem to find any newspaper accounts. I know this is off the path of your overview, but just thought you may have run across this name in your travels.
Thanks!

Re: Tempest family history overview

mseseljay — 2008-04-06 21:50:45Z

Charlotte Tempest

searlejonathan — 2007-06-02 16:20:53Z

Hello,

I'm trying to find any information on Charlotte Tempest, born in 1867 in Shoreditch. I know she married Harry Grey in 1884 but haven't found any other records.

Hope someone can help!

Re: Dionisia Tempest

TheSarge578 — 2006-11-21 13:30:26Z

Good Day:
The name is same, (first), however, is She connected in any way to STUBBS, Spencer, and Briggs, I am looking for Dionysia STUBBS, b bef: 1587, marr a Wm Yelverton, b 1558
their is some ties, to above families, would appreciate any insight????

Regards:
The Sarge

Re: Dionisia Tempest

TheSarge578 — 2006-11-21 13:30:26Z

Thank You

The Sarge

Re: Dionisia Tempest

TheSarge578 — 2006-11-21 13:30:26Z

Good Morning:
Please give me some date, and location's, even I have some Blank Wilson data, after All these year's, but maybe I can Find? As of with what You sent above, I do need a littlt more info on Subjects

With Regards:
Gary D Wilson
PO Box 476
Cambridge, Oh 43725-0476
E-Mail: thesarge578@adelphia.net
""Honor and Courage""

Birth: a son to Terry L. Tempest b 1977 Centralia, WA

2006-11-13 21:58:47Z

Aug. 29, 1977 Centralia, WA "Chronicle"

Births
Mr. and Mrs. Terry L. Tempest, Centralia, a son, 8 pounds 11 ounces, Aug. 27, Centralia General Hospital. Grandparents are Mr. and Mrs. Charles V. Rhoades, Centralia, and Mr. and Mrs. Lawrence Tempest, Curtis.

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

2006-06-26 23:27:33Z

As my researches progress I find a definite link with the Tempests of Whaddon and I think Thomas Tempest (1591-1644) was of Whaddon and he married Martha, daughter of William Willmot of Wantage by Cecilia Hyde. Thomas was the 2nd son of William Tempest by Elizabeth, daughter of William Moore of Hadham or Haddon, Oxon.

I would very much like to hear about the information you have, please.

Many thanks
Caspar

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

2006-06-26 23:26:46Z

Dear Ron

What wonderful stuff - thank you very, very much indeed.

I have found a note on William Tempest who married Elizabeth Hyland at:
http://www.royalsociety.org/DServe/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve....

It would be very useful to find the obituaries that they mention here.

My diggings in the meantime lead me to suggest that Robert Tempest of Holmside who married Margaret Lenthall was the son of George Tempest by Eleanor, daughter of Robert Millott, George being the son of Robert Tempest by Ann Lambton.

Now Margaret Lenthall is confusing. There was an Anne Lenthall who married a Robert Tempest of Holmeset (and then 2ndly George Smith of Mustanton, Durham and then 3rdly John Tempest of Bolinghall, Yorkshire), but the visitation suggests she died sp. Then there was a Margarett who married Thomas Tempest of Holmesett. These 2 are shown as sisters and were daughters of William Lenthall of Lachford by Katherine Badby. They were sisters to Thomas Lenthall of Lachford, but maybe he also had daughters? As you see, I am struggling to work out who is who. Do you recognise Thomas Tempest of Holmside? Or Anne Lenthall?

I think that Elizabeth who married William Tempest and was daughter of William Moore or More of Hadham (sometimes written Haddon) may have had as her mother the daughter of Gifford of Southampton, but I cannot prove this yet.

I also find that Martha who married Thomas Tempest of Whaddon was the daughter of William Wymote or Willmot by Cecilia Hyde.

Incedentally Hasted's Kent (1797-1801) spells the house in Cranbrook as Sheppards.

Many thanks again.

Regards
Caspar

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

2006-06-09 20:48:02Z

Dear Ron

Your knowledge here appears significant and extensive, so please may I probe further?

I have only come across the Tempests of Cranbrook, so what is "Shepherds"? The name of a house? Can you explain, please, how Whaddon fits in? And Oxfordshire? Who moved from where to where to end up in Cranbrook?

What sources have you used, please? I have explored Burke's, Surtee's Durham (I could only find Tempest of Stella & Stanley), Hasted's Kent, the Herald's Visitations, Foster's Pedigree's and the IGI but the Cranbrook branch has always proved frustratingly elusive.

Can you fill in any of the other generations, please (between William (d.1682) and his great great grandfather William)?

You have mentioned that William Tempest had 11 daughters by Elizabeth Hyland - can you confirm if one of them was Penelope who married Abraham Whittaker of Stratford, Essex (descended from a family of long standing in the counties of Lancaster and York), please?

Many thanks for your wisdom.

Caspar

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

2006-06-09 20:46:46Z

I have John or William Tempest of Cranbrook in Kent (20/4/1682-before 5/12/1761) who married Elizabeth Hyland (6/6/1707) and supposedly he was born at Whaddon. Now the Tempests of Cranbrook are meant to be a cadet of the ancient houses of Tempest of Bracewell, Broughton, and Tong, being descended from Sir Richard Tempest.

I do now know if what I have here is correct or not, but can you point me in any illuminating directions, please? The ancestors of John or William Tempest of Cranbrook are my greatest interest.

Thanks
Caspar

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

2006-06-09 20:46:17Z

I have John or William Tempest of Cranbrook in Kent (20/4/1682-before 5/12/1761) who married Elizabeth Hyland (6/6/1707) and supposedly he was born at Whaddon. Now the Tempests of Cranbrook are meant to be a cadet of the ancient houses of Tempest of Bracewell, Broughton, and Tong, being descended from Sir Richard Tempest.

Does this tie in with what you have, please?

Thanks
Caspar

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

2006-06-26 23:31:15Z

Dear Ron

Your knowledge continues to be very impressive and so I write a quick thank you again.

From what you say this makes Anne Lenthall the daughter of William Lenthall of Lachford and not Thomas which you had suggested previously - do you agree with this, please? Therefore her mother would be Katherine, daughter of John Badby by Jane, the daughter and heir of Richard Pipard.

My interest in these details is because my own genealogical approach is to identify my own ancestors up every male and female line, which is how I arrived at this enquiry in the first place. Hence any more information on William Moore of Haddon would be very much appreciated.

Many, many thanks again and kind regards
Caspar

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

rtempest0155 — 2006-06-26 23:30:37Z

Re: Connection tween TEMPEST of Whaddon, Cam & Yorkshire ?

rtempest0155 — 2006-06-26 23:22:23Z

Margaret Tempest mar. 1723