We do share the same line. Is your mother Goldie Hutchins? I have been looking at your family group record for years. The only difference I can see is that I have Patrick's middle name as Dorsey (after his mother's maiden name). What do you have on his father Thaddius, aka "Wild Toddy Wall" aka, Toddy Tierney? Family research by Uncle Harvey says he lied about his name and on his death bed said his name was not Tierney but that no one would ever know his real name. There was supposedly a dispute with the church in Ireland because they wouldn't realease family land they were keeping in trust and he left "in the middle of the night." For this or some reason they think he used his mother's maiden name, and came to Canada. We think his name might have been Stafford, Mother Sioban Tierney and father John Stafford. But I have no documentation and haven't researched myself yet.