Treichel - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Family

WandrinFree — 2009-08-30 17:41:30Z

Oops...Little too fast on the post button...

That link for the Dakota Treichels...

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&...

Re: Family

WandrinFree — 2009-08-30 17:38:54Z

Here is a data base of the Dakota Treichels

Treichel

clarissa1874 — 2009-08-29 11:52:03Z

Any idea where your Treichel ancestors came from and when did they emigrate?
It is important to know some more information such as date of birth, date of death, etc. Otherwise there will be noch chance to find out more since Treichel is and was not a rare surname in Germany.
Among other regions or provinces there was a concentration of this name in West Prussia, Germany, now Poland, in Pommerania, Germany, now Poland and in the so-called "Dobriner Land", counties of Rypin (Rippin) and Lipno (Leipe), in Poland, before WWI Russian Poland.
There are some variations of the name, but all of them identical with Treichel:
Treuchel, Treichler, Treichell, Treychel, Traichel, Trechel, Trejchel, Trychel, Trychelt, Trzychel.

Regards from Germany,
Willi with Treichel ancestors from West Prussia

Re: Family

bptreich — 2009-08-29 03:07:19Z

Hello, My dad was from Bently ND. His father was Michael, his mother Marie.

Re: Family history

clarissa1874 — 2009-07-16 11:06:44Z

Guten Tag, Beth,

would like to get into touch with Lorraine since I am a Treichel descendant, too. Please send her actual e-mail address. Danke!

Regards from Germany,
Willi

Treichel

palourich — 2009-06-16 00:32:08Z

My Grandmother, Elsie Dora Georgel (dob 1889), was married to a Treichel and had three children with him:
Robert K(dob 1915), Milton J(dob 1911), Eleanor M(dob 1912), and my mother Bessie Gerogel (birth name, dob 1922)with Mr. Treichel or someone else
My mother was placed up for adoption in Chicago Ill. on 11/8/1022.
Please answer back if you have any info on any of the persons listed above, Thanks

Re: Treichel/Reichert Ancestors

ATreichel0840 — 2009-05-15 04:01:08Z

Herman Treichel was born and lived in Eastern Poland and conscripted into the German Army during WW2 and declared missing in action on the Russian front in 1944; so therefore it is highly unlikely he returned to live in Germany.
I have no knowledge of either of Max or Maria Treichel of Hamburg.

Re: Treichel/Reichert Ancestors

WolfgangRichardT — 2009-05-15 02:38:06Z

Hi, is it possible that Hermann retuned to Germany?
You got any Information on Max+Maria Treichel , Hamburg.
Max was born 1888.
Best regards
Wolfgang

Re: Ludwig Treichel and Christian

clarissa1874 — 2009-04-22 07:28:13Z

Guten Tag, Shirley,

this is a descendant of a Treichel family coming from West Prussia, Germany, now Poland. Ludwig Treichel, son of Johann Friedrich Treichel and Maria Klamm, is my ancestor. So I am interested in the information on Ludwig Treichel. One of his grandsons was Christian.
Please let me know all about the Treichels (in the old days mainly Treuchel) mentioned in your book.

Vielen Dank!

Willi from Germany

stindt

mastergunns1 — 2009-04-21 21:10:53Z

Don't know if this will help, but my mother was a Stindt and had brothers named Henry, (uncle Hen) and Jerry. A sister in the family too, named Alice who married a Langville. They all lived in or near Glen Burnie, Md. The family was very unusual. I just got from Md. today after meeting my half brother. We found each other on this site. Our father was a Burkhardt. If these names sound familar, you may be another missing relative. Good Luck!

Re: Ludwig Treichel and Christian

skadatz — 2009-03-31 02:12:53Z

Hi CDAshton,

If you are still looking for info on Ludwig and Christian Treichel...I can help. I have a book called South Edmonton Saga that mentions them.

Shirley
Edmonton

Re: Treichel's in Cleveland

laurahine62 — 2009-02-24 12:35:14Z

I found the following obituaries. This appears to be Julianne Treichel that you are looking for. Also below is the obit for Julianne's brother, John Radke and his wife Wanda. I'm wondering if you know who Julianne's and John's parents were. I have a Treichels married into my Stettin family. The Stettin's were related to the Radkes. But, I haven't tied this Julianne to the Treichel that married the Stettin. These people lived in Cleveland, Ohio.
Thanks,
Laura

Name: Treichel, Ju?
Date: Sep 3 1956
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #162.
Notes: Treichel, Ju? De Leon Springs, Fla., late residence, 1863 E. 300th St. beloved wife of Julius, mother of Theodore Falkenberg. Adolf, Ernest, the deceased Emma and Otto Treichel, grandmother of nine, sister of John Radke of Cleveland, Alex, Amelia and Minnie of Germany. Friends may call at the Albert E. Ziehm Funeral Home, 7618 Superior Ave. All services from Zion Lutheran Church, E. 30 and Prospect Ave., Tuesday, Sept. 4, at 2 p. m.

Name: Radke, John
Date: May 12 1958
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #148.
Notes: Radke, John, residence, 1306 W. 89 St., beloved husband of Wanda (nee Pross), father of Fred L., grandfather of Fred L. Jr. and Gayle, brother of the late Julia Treichel. Friends may call at the Albert E. Ziehm Funeral Home, 7618 Superior Ave., Monday And Tuesday 3-5 And 7-10 P. M. Services Wednesday, May 14, at 1 p. m. Interment Rockcreek, O.

Name: Radke, Wanda
Date: Feb 26 1960
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #148.
Notes: Radke, Wanda, residence, 1306 W. 89th St., beloved wife of the late John, mother of Fred, grandmother of Freddy and Gayle, sister of Bertha Bloch. Friends may call at the Albert E. Ziehm Funeral Home, 7618 Superior Ave. Services Saturday, Feb. 27, at 1 p. m. In lieu of flowers, please make contributions to Zion Lutheran Church.

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2009-02-16 16:16:37Z

Guten Tag, Tom!

Alexander Treichel writes in his book "Geschichte des Deutschtums von Rippin und Umgegend", 3rd ed., Schwabach, published by Milizer, 1962, page 57 (translated):

A second example: Christian Treychel [sic!] was a teacher in Rentwiny in 1818 and later on in Kleszczyn. His son Paul Treychel was a teacher in Radzynek and afterwards in Somsiory. He died in Rumunki-Radzynek on Jan. 13, 1868 at the age of 68 years. His son Andreas Treichel was a teacher in Przyrowa and later on in Kleszczyn [The one who was an imcompetent teacher.]. He died in Kleszczyn on March 10, 1888 at the age of 64 years. His son Gottfried Treichel who became a teacher as well died in Gaj on Aug. 17, 1889 very young at the age of only 31 years.

There were some more Treichels:
1. Emil Treichel, finished teacher' training college of Warsaw in 1908, was a teacher in Pozdzenice, Zelów and Brzeziny where he died as a treasurer [of what?] on Sep. 15,1925.
2. Johann Gottlieb Treichel, Alexander Treichel's [the one who wrote this book]greatgrandfather, who was evicted in the 1840s from Nieder-Altrippin by the estate owner of Rusinowo. He was married to a womann née Schwanke.
3. Peter Treichel, son of 2., had to do his duty in the Russian army for 25 years which was the normal period in those days, but did not return. Nobody ever learned what had happened to him.

Would be great to get more information on your Treichel ancestors in order to add them to Alexander Treichel's book.
Any other surnames related to your ancestors? Maybe I can find some information in the book.

Greetings from Köln,
Willi

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

ttrieckel1 — 2009-02-07 04:01:25Z

I am very interested in what information you may have. Thanks, Tom

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

treich174 — 2009-02-07 00:09:08Z

I am interested to hear what you find out.

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

Martenos — 2009-02-06 07:05:02Z

Yes, my grandfather was born in 1913. He has the sister Wanda and brother Robert. Wanda lives in Berlin, Robert also in Germany but I don't remember the city. Unfortunately little I know about the family history, I will have to talk a bit with the Grandfather to this topic :)

Marcin

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

treich174 — 2009-02-05 23:39:16Z

Hello, martenos,

I am glad to hear from someone from Rypin.

Are you saying that your grandfather is a descendent of Paul Treichel?

I have an electronic copy of Geschlechterfolgen Treichel and there is a Rudolf Treichel born in July 1913. Is this your grandfather?

Peter

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2009-02-05 09:38:36Z

Danke for your response. Do you have any information on birthdates and birthplaces?

By the way, Reiwe seems to be Riewe, a slightly more common surname I found in Weißenhöhe [Weissenhoehe = Bialosliwe], Kreis Wirsitz,in the province of Posen, Prussia, and in West Prussia.

My ancestor Euphrosine [Rosina, Rosa, Rosalia] Lemke [Lempke, Lembke] was married to Andreas Mack [Mach, Macht] before 1795. They lived in Sluchay, Skemsk and Frankenstein near Gollub, Kreis Briesen, West Prussia, close to Kreis Rippin [Polish Rypin].

Maybe we can help each other in our research.

Greetings from Cologne [Köln],

Willi

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

wolfusa2000 — 2007-08-19 20:10:25Z

Dear Albert,
I'm looking for Information on my grandpa Max Treichel
born March 12, 1888 (Hamburg-Altona) +May 28, 1970.-(Hamburg-Altona).
Any ino are very much appreciated
Wolfgang
wolfusa2000@netzero.com

Re: Treichel's in Cleveland

CDAshton — 2009-02-04 18:36:09Z

Did you have any connection to the Treichel's in Cleveland
Immmigrated in 1911 to USA
Julius (1887)
Julianne (1885)
Otto
Emma
Adolph (1917)
Ernie

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

CDAshton — 2009-02-04 16:25:44Z

Sorry for my delay in getting back to you
Here is the family from that region Leverkusen near Köln (Cologne), Northrine-Westphalia?
All children from Karl and Eleanor(Tober) Treichel
Lydia Treichel (whose children were Hans and Hannelore Schmitz -
Ludwig Treichel (whose children were Margarete and Manfred)
Herman?
Auguste?
Paulina (whose children were Otto, Frieda, max?, Elsie, and Hugo Schnike?)
Emma (Whose children were Heinz and Helga Schultz)
Herman (whose child was Dora)

I have very limited information on them. Some came to the area from Prussia as well

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

Martenos — 2009-02-04 07:17:59Z

Hello!
I was born in Rypin. My grandfather Rudolf Treichel also comes from these parties and it is certainly the same family. He is 96 years old. His sister and the brother still live in Germany.

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

dieter51 — 2008-04-28 10:36:23Z

Willi,

da ich ein Buch über die Schivelbeiner Familien schreibe, würde ich gerne Daten austauschen.
Ich habe da z.B. die Heirat eines anderen Sohnes der Familie Treichel-Ruell.

Gruß,

Dieter Schimmelpfennig
Heimatkreisbearbeiter
--
Der Kreis Belgard-Schivelbein in Pommern http://www.belgard.org
Historische Einwohnerdatenbank / Historical Inhabitants Database
http://www.belgard.org/Namen/index.htm
Belgard-Schivelbein Mailingliste http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kreis-Belgard

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

dieter51 — 2007-04-22 12:25:29Z

Me too.

Ich bin daran auch interessiert.

Gruß,

Dieter Schimmelpfennig
Heimatkreisbearbeiter
webmaster@belgard.org
--
Der Kreis Belgard-Schivelbein in Pommern http://www.belgard.org
Historische Einwohnerdatenbank / Historical Inhabitants Database
http://www.belgard.org/Namen/index.htm
Belgard-Schivelbein Mailingliste http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kreis-Belgard

Re: Treichel from West Prussia, Germany

CliffMallett — 2008-05-20 11:41:00Z

Carl Treichel emigrated to Australia as passenger 302 on "Lammershagen" Hamburg to Maryborough, Queensland 10th October 1876 arriving Jan 18 1877. Recorded as a Landmann, Male, 28 years of age. from Raikau, West Prussia. Known as Charles in Australia.
Married Angelika Bennarsky (Angelike Bednarch) at Dalby 12 Sept 1877. Marriage certificate says he was born at Tromborn, Germany (which I cannot trace)
He is my great grandfather cliff@carbonenergy.com.au

Re: Treichel from West Prussia, Germany

CliffMallett — 2008-05-20 11:40:13Z

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2009-02-04 11:00:59Z

Guten Tag, martenos,

would like to know more about your family coming from Kreis Rippin [Rypin], Dobriner Land, Poland.

What kind of information are you interested in?

Greetings from Germany,

Willi

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2009-02-05 09:25:12Z

Guten Tag from Germany,

I am a Treichel descendant, too, but from ancestors who lived in Kreis Briesen, West Prussia, close to the German-Polish (Russian Poland) border.

I have a book written by Alexander Treichel, "Geschichte des Deutschtums von Rippin und Umgegend", 3rd ed. published 1962 in Schwabach by Milizer.

He mentions various Treichels:

Treichel
- Alexander
- Andreas
- Emil
- Gottfried
- Johann Gottlieb
- [Treychel] Christian
- [Treychel] Paul,

among them some teachers, e.g. Andreas who was a lazy teacher in Kleszczyn near Rypin without any knowledge of the Russian language which was mandatory at the time when this area was under Russian administration.

If interested in further information I can have a look-up.

Best regards,

Willi
whose grandfather Max* Alfred Treichel was born Feb 11, 1903 in Gruneberg, Kreis Briesen, just a stone's throw from Gollub

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

clarissa1874 — 2007-04-22 14:09:20Z

Hallo, Dieter, 2 Versuche, Dir an die Deine Webmaster-Adresse eine Nachricht zu schicken, scheiterten. Kontaktiere mich unter Pekawebe(at)t-online.de.
Schöne Grüße
Willi

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

clarissa1874 — 2007-04-22 14:07:41Z

I had a second go, but my mails to you were not delivered. I wonder why.
Please contact me: Pekawebe(at)t-online.de for further bilateral information.
Greetings,
Willi

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

clarissa1874 — 2007-04-22 13:08:45Z

Well, I got that list from the Zentralstelle für Personen- und Familiengeschichte e.V. in Frankfurt/Main when I asked for information on the Treichel surname and for Ferdinand Traichel's "Geschlechterfolgen Treichel I and II".
My Treichel ancestors are from Kreis (county) Briesen in West Prussia and moved to the province of Brandenburg when the Poles took over that part of West Prussia in 1920 according to the Treaty of Versailles.
So there is no connection to the Pomeranian Treichels as far as I know.
Do you know Ulrike Nilgen née Treichel with ancestors from Kreis Kolberg-Körlin or Ralf Treichel whose ancestors are also from East Pomerania? There are some Treichel coat of arms: 1. Johann Christoph Treichel of Lauenburg, Pomerania, 1776; 2. Johann Treichl (sic!) of Hopfgarten, District of Kitzbühl in Tyrol, Austria, early 18th century; 3. Heinrich von Treichel of Marrin, Kreis Kolberg, 18th century
Greetings,
Willi

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2007-07-18 10:01:24Z

Hello, Carash.
Could you please let me know more about the Treichels who live in Leverkusen near Köln (Cologne), Northrine-Westphalia?
All I know that my cousin lives there, but our ancestors left West Prussia after World War I.
Greetings from Köln,
Willi

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

clarissa1874 — 2007-04-22 12:04:37Z

I have a listing of the Treichel clan in Belgard, Pomerania, and in Illinois, USA, updated on May 23, 1986 by H.O. Müller in Gießen, Germany.
Hans Friedrich Trichel > Johann Treichel > Ernst Treichel > Ernst Treichel, * Oct 22, 1853 in Schivelbein, + Feb 18, 1943 in Chicago, USA.
In that list the following surnames are included:
Bergtold
Bosenberg
Brehm
Burwitz
Hoof of Switzerland
Maas
Miller
Rojahn
Römer
Ruhel
Santroch
Umenhofer
Vierkant
Völzke
Wahl
Weber
If interested contact me for further details.
Greetings from Germany,
Willi
with Treichel ancestors from West Prussia > Brandenburg

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2007-03-23 22:01:00Z

Christian Treichel (Treychel), teacher in Rentwiny in 1818
his son Paul, teacher in Radzynek and Somsiory, + at 68 yrs in Rumunki-Radzynek on Jan 13, 1868
his son Andreas, teacher in Przyrowa and Kleszczyn, + at 64 yrs on Mar 19, 1888 in Kleszczyn
his son Gottfried, teacher, + at 31 yrs on Aug 17, 1889 in Gaj
All information from
Alexander Treichel, "Geschichte des Deutschtums von Rippin und Umgegend", Schwabach 1962
If interested I can have a closer look at this book which describes the history, culture and life in Kreis Rippin (Rypin)
Greetings from Germany
Willi
in search of Treichel ancestors from Kreis Briesen, Kreis Graudenz, Kreis Strasburg and Kreis Thorn in West Prussia.
Kreis Briesen and Kreis Rippin were only separated by the border.

Re: Treichel - Lemke

clarissa1874 — 2007-03-18 17:04:57Z

Georgeann:

If still unknown I recommend a visit to Hans-Jürgen Wolf's fantastic site www.westpreussen.de which is partly in English. There you will find about 800 persons named Treichel, Trechel, Treichler (Treichel = Treuchel = Treychel = Traichel = Trejchel = Treichler for the same person or family possible) Among them are my ancestors.

Greetings from Köln (Cologne), Germany,
Willi Beutler

Re: TREICHEL

clarissa1874 — 2007-03-03 23:18:15Z

Could you please mention the place they came from?
My Treichel ancestors lived in Szittno /Sittno, Kreis /county Briesen, West Prussia, Ostrowitt=Osterbitz = Polish: Ostrowite, Kreis Briesen and Chelmoniez = Gruneberg= Polish: Chelmoniec, Kreis Briesen, Rheinsberg = Rynsk; Kreis Briesen
Greetings from Köln = Cologne, Germany,
WSillki

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

clarissa1874 — 2007-04-22 12:16:48Z

Hans Friedrich Treichel, * when in Wuschau near Köslin, Pomerania, married to Trine (Catharina) Völzke née Füsse > Johann Treichel, * Nov 3,1771 in Alt Wiek, married to Charlotte Vierkant, * Feb 11, 1776 in Damerow, in Damerow on May 9, 1797 > Ernst Treichel, * Dec 3, 1815 in Alt Wiek, + Dec. 9, 1903 in Belgard, married to Hanne Sophie Henriette née Ruhel, * May 20, 1815 in Schivelbein, + Feb 3, 1890 in Schivelbein, married in Schivelbein on Oct 30, 1840 > Ernst Treichel, Oct. 22, 1853 in Schivelbein, + Feb 18, 1943 in Chicago
More informtion on descendants are available.
Greetings from Germany,
Willi
with Treichel ancestors from West Prussia > Brandenburg

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

clarissa1874 — 2007-03-02 07:11:00Z

Hello Lloyd,

I know the problem. So try again. If you don't succeed you should go to "search" and fill in a first name and surname. It usually works. You can also contact Herr Hans-Jürgen Wolf, the owner of this fantastic website. He is very helpful.

Let me know when you need further help.

Greetings from Köln in Germany
Willi

Re: Treichels from Friedrichsbruck, Prussia

clarissa1874 — 2007-02-27 15:20:07Z

Hello, Kim,

could not find any Friedrichsbruck in Prussia, but several place called Friedrichsbruch, e.g. in Kreis (county) Kulm, West Prussia, now Polish.
Go to www.kartenmeister.com, look for Friedrichsbruch and you will some places named Friedrichsbruch.

I'm doing some research dealing with my Treichel ancestors from Kreis Briesen, Graudenz, Kulm, Strasburg and Thorn.

If you need any help let me know.

Greetings from Germany
Willi

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

WandrinFree — 2007-02-28 15:39:03Z

"Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or ...."

That is the message for the top four surnames on the list.

There is no problem viewing any of the others.

My curiosity continues until I am able to access the Treichel data base.

Lloyd

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

WandrinFree — 2007-03-03 15:24:59Z

Willi,

Based on your recommendation, I searched for specific ancestral names, but found nothing with the correct birth dates -- or even close.

Considering that I am unable to resolve ancestral puzzles of the late 1800s in Wisconsin, it is no surprise that I am unable to resolve those of early 1800s (and before) in East Prussia.

Thanks for the URL.

Lloyd

Re: Treichel's of Pomerania

WandrinFree — 2007-03-03 15:09:53Z

Thanks for the URL addresses. I checked out some specific ancestral names and counties. However, there were no matches -- using known birth dates as a guide.

Lloyd

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

chipandlea — 2007-09-06 15:37:21Z

My husband's mother was Harry Albertina Romer b 21 July 1912 in Fernadine, Fl, USA. She married Louie Lacey Holloway. And yes her name was spelled HARRY.
Name SS# IssueState Birth Death DeathState Last Known Residence Last Payment Location AutoWriteLetter
HOLLOWAY, HARRY FL 21 Jul 1912 15 Aug 1997 Daytona Beach, Florida 32117

© Copyright 1996-2003, Genealogy.com, LLC. All rights reserved.
This is Harry Albertina Romer. She married Louie Lacey Holloway in Miami, Fl in the early 1900’s. Will find the date.
I was told by my husband’s sister that Alexander Graham Bell bought property from her grandmother’s side of the family in Nova Scothia (can’t spell). My husband’s granddad, George Raymond Romer married Maggie Ann Hylick or Hyrum. Their children were: Mary Ellen Romer who married (PeeWee) Roland Webster; George Romer married Helen; Ralph Romer who married Betty 0 children and then married Opal ? Gunn who had a son, Gene Gunn. Romer family is known to have come from Germany but could have been anywhere in the area.
If you have any info on the Romer family who migrated to Miami, Florida and any of their extended family all over the world please let me know. My husband and only one sister is still alive and very few family members.
Thank you and God bless you in your family search.
Delia

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

carash_1 — 2007-07-14 03:35:16Z

Do you have any information on the Treichel's from the Leverkusen, North Rhein region! They are also related to the Schinke's, Schultz's, Eul's, Zabelberg's, Schmitz's and the Radke's. They originally came from the Zhitomir region in Volhynia.

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

carash_1 — 2007-07-14 03:35:12Z

Re: Treichel's of Rypin

ttrieckel1 — 2009-02-05 01:41:50Z

I have not done much research as of late, seeing if there is anything new. Peter is my 3rd cousin and Andreas Treichel 1824-1888 is where our lines meet.

My Treichel line consists of:

Henry Christian Trieckel 1893-1956
Christian Treichel 1869-1941
Andreas Treichel 1824-1888
Paul Treichel 1799-1868
Christian Treichel bef 1799

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

san625g — 2008-04-27 15:21:11Z

In my ancestry I have a Louise Romer born 16 May 1864, died 12 May 1947. She married August Treichel on 29 Sep 1885 in Belgard. I don't know anything further about her but I do have info on his ancestors and his descendants.

Gail

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

san625g — 2007-04-22 12:23:31Z

My mother hired Mr Muller back in the 1980's so this report seems similar to information he sent her. Are you related to Mr. Muller? Which of the Treichels are you related to? Why do you have the report?

Re: Treichel's of Pomerania

san625g — 2007-03-03 13:24:22Z

Have you looked at the "Index To Die Vorfahren Database 'The Ancestors' Full Name Pomeranian Database"? URL: http://cefha.org/de/pom/dv/dv-135.html or "Pommernkontakte - the researchers contact database for Pommern"? URL: http://pommernkontakte.de/index.html

Re: Treichel in Kreis Belgard

san625g — 2007-04-22 12:09:08Z

I am definitely interested in Mr. Muller's report. Contact me : sang546atcomcast.net