Carolyn,
I think I have found John Henry Tye's parents. See below for a rundown of what I have been finding re. this line of Tyes.
John Tyre/Tye is listed in Franklin County VA. on the 1786 personal property tax list. His birth would have had to be early enough to allow him to be of an age to owe taxes. His daughter, Elizabeth, was born 1792 and married Josiah Maxey, son of Esther and Ed Maxey who were from Buckingham County, Va. (Elizabeth was Esther's neice as well as her daughter-in-law.) John had another daughter, Patsy Tye, who married Thomas Cousins on December 19, 1809 in Clarke County, Georgia.
It seems probable that this John was also the father of several of the Tyes that left Va. and ended up in the Southern Georgia counties of Randolph, Stewart, Quitman and the nearby Alabama counties of Henry and Bullock. There is often the movement of groups of family members who remain living close together in their new environments.
These Tyes, sons of John, born in Franklin county in the
1860's, were likely the brothers: John b. 1782, Francis Marion b.1790's and Thomas b.c. 1795. These brothers all settled in Southern Georgia and nearby Alabama.
John Tye b.1782 married Penelope Butler and first went to SC but later moved his family to Randolph and then Stewart County, Ga.
I believe John b. 1782 was the father of John Henry Tye b.1813 and also of Reubin Tye b. 1817.
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The following gives details I have put together, starting with information of the early Tyes of Virginia.
Possible origins of some of the Tye families of Oglethorpe, Clarke and Morgan Counties, Georgia in the early 1800's.
Also included is information of the Tye families that settled in S.E. Georgia at Quitman, Randolph and Stewart Counties.
Please keep in mind that this is just a study and there may be many misconceptions here. Hopefully it
has uncovered some of the puzzles re. these particular Tye relationships and origins. Future research will undoubtedly provide much more information to help fill in the remaining blanks.
Lois Eggers -January 2008
Up until this time it seems there has been somewhat of a puzzle as to the origin(s) and particular relationships of the Tye families that arrived from Virginia to live in Oglethorpe County, Ga. and in adjoining Clarke County and Morgan County in the early 1800's. This study is an attempt to understand how these Tyes from various areas of Virginia began to congregate here at about the same time. In fact they all seem to be descendants of about four Tyes whose births were fairly close together.
These were ESTHER TYE b.c.1762-1770, HENRY TYE b.1764, THOMAS TYE b.c.1770, JOHN TYE b.before 1768. I believe these to be siblings and possible children of Anderson Tye b.1741. Family groups tended to stay together, especially when planning a move to parts still rather wild and somewhat unknown. The following is an attempt to learn the various relationships of these Tyes, if any, to one another.
The above named Tyes seem to fit within the years when the known sons of Allen Tye were born in Prince George County, Va. One son of Allen's was Anderson Tye. His birth in 1741 is about all that has been found. However it is known that Allen Tye owned land in the areas around the Tye River, including some at Buckingham County, Va. which he sold not too long before 1767 according to Buckingham County records. Allen also was said to have had property and possibly lived in Albermarle County, Va. It is possible that Allen may have reared some of his family, including a son, Henry there or in nearby areas of Virginia. Or perhaps Anderson Tye had moved away from Prince George County when he was out on his own and had a family living somewhere around the Tye river area. Henry Tye may have been born there and not in Culpeper County, but he did live in Culpeper County by the 1780's. The other sons known of Allen Tye were Solomon and William. Neither of them seem to have been in Culpeper County, but rather were living in Prince George County and Dinwiddie County in the late 1700's and then most of them or their children moved south into North Carolina and Tennessee. There were possibly two other sons of Allen. One may have been Lambeth or Lambert Tye who was probably named after Allen's father. We don't know much about this Lambeth, except he seems to have been the one to handle the estate of his father.
(Dinwiddie County Fee Book of 1763, p. 66 Mary Tye and Lambeth Tye, executors of Allen Tye, dec'd.)
The other possible son was John Granger Tye whom some say was a son of John Tye of Baltimore, Md. But he could very well have been another son of Allen's. John G. Tye does not appear to have been in Virginia, after c.1765-70. By then he was in the western counties of NC in what was to become the new state of Tennessee.
The following is a time line with some added notes of the Tyes that settled in Oglethorpe County, Georgia and nearby Clarke County and Morgan County, Ga. Some seem to fit into fairly easily defined family relationships. Others, especially Henry Tye and his sons, Henry and James don't seem to relate to the others as easily. Yet they all have chosen the same area of Georgia to begin their new lives at around the same time.
Four probable siblings who may be children of Anderson Tye b.1741
#1 c.1762-1770 Esther Tye was born in Virginia. She married Ed Maxey in Buckingham County, VA. Their son Josiah married Elizabeth Tye b.c. 1792 who was a daughter of John Tye b. before 1768 who lived in Franklin County, Va.
Elizabeth and Josiah Maxey moved to Clarke County, Ga. in the early 1800's where they spent the rest of their lives.
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#2 c.1764 birth of Henry Tye who lived at Culpeper County, Va.(Sometimes confused with his son, Henry b.c.1782.)
1764 Henry's Tye's Birth in Virginia. Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
c.1781 Henry marries his first wife. Name (unk.)
c.1782--'85 Henry's sons Henry and James are born.
1783 Henry Tye on tax list of Culpeper County, Virginia . List of French Strother, Gent.
Between 1785-1798 Henry's wife and mother of Henry and James seems to have died.
Between 1796 and 1799 Henry may have married again. This wife would have been born about 1780. She would have probably been the mother of the rest of his children, including Jobe, John, Samuel and three daughters that are known, Sarah W., Ann and Mary.
1800 Jobe Tye is born about this time to Henry and his second wife in Culpeper, Va.
c.1807 Ann F. Tye born VA. to Henry. She married John C. Hasborough who was an attorney age 43 in 1850 in Culpeper County, VA. Ann was about 43 in 1850. Ann stayed in Virginia
c.1810 Sarah W. Tye b. in Culpeper, Va. to Henry. Sarah stayed in Culpeper and married Peter Hansbrough Nov.5, 1835
1812 .Henry Tye is mentioned in the Culpeper County, Virginia Deed Book FF page 49 Book GG p. 164 29 Jan. 1812. Posted by
philly330@verizon.net & Cathy S. Phillips Posted: 9 Jan 2007 Elkins
c.1818 John Tye born to Henry in Culpeper, Va.
c.1819 Samuel Tye born to Henry in Culpeper, Va.
c.1822 Mary Tye b. Va. to Henry and is shown to be age 28 in the 1850 census. She lives in Culpeper Va. and is listed living next door to John C. Hansborough age 43 who is a lawyer & Farmer 13,000. B.VA His wife is Ann F. age 35. Son Burgess is 16, Bettie is 8, Nelly is 5. All born VA. Mary may be sister of Ann. CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE: Virginia COUNTY: Culpeper REEL NO: M432-941 PAGE NO: 249B REFERENCE: Enumerated on September 28, 1850 by J.M. Broadus, Ass't. Marshal.
Between 1822 and 1829 Henry Tye died. He would have been somewhere between the age of 58 and 65.
#3 Before 1768 John Tye born who lived in Franklin County, Va. John Tyre/Tye is listed in Franklin County on the 1786 personal property tax list of Va. His birth would have had to be early enough to allow him to be of an age to owe taxes. His daughter, Elizabeth, was born 1792 and married Josiah Maxey, son of Esther and Ed Maxey who were from Buckingham County, Va. Elizabeth was Esther's neice as well as her daughter-in-law. John had another daughter, Patsy Tye, who married Thomas Cousins on December 19, 1809 in Clarke County, Georgia.
It seems probable that John was the father of several of the Tyes that left Va. and ended up in the Southern Georgia counties of Randolph, Stewart, Quitman and the nearby Alabama counties of Henry and Bullock. Again there is the movement of groups of family members who remain living close together in their new environments. These Tyes were likely the brothers :
John Tye b.1782 married Penelope Butler and first went to SC but later moved his family to Randolph and then Stewart Counties, Ga. John and Penelope had sons: John Henry Tye b.SC, 1813 and Reubin Tye b. SC 1817. Both settled in Stewart County,Ga. for a few years.
Francis Marion Tye born 1790's and lived in Randolph County Ga. Francis’ wife was Georgia Mills. They had son: James Tye b.c. 1819.
Thomas Tye b.c. 1795 married Frances "Fannie" Maxey. They first lived in Clarke County, Ga. but spent most of their lives in Stewart County, Ga.
#4 c.1770-1775 Thomas Tye born, Va.. Thomas married Nancy whose maiden name is not known. Thomas and Nancy were in Ogelthorpe County, Ga. living with Samuel Tye in 1820. No records have been found to indicate when Nancy and Thomas Tye arrived in Georgia or where in Virginia they had lived previously. Thomas and Nancy were born c.1770 so they could have been the parents of Samuel Tye b.c. 1788. There is also a John Tye b.c.1800 who could be son of Thomas and Nancy and a brother to Samuel. (See census reports of these families below.)
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Children of Elizabeth, John, Henry and Thomas Through the Years.
James Tye c.1780's born to Henry b.1764 in Culpeper, Va. James married Frankie Collins in 1801 while still in Virginia. He had moved to Oglethorpe County, Ga. before 1811 when his name first shows there and then he was found living with his family in Morgan County, Ga. He appears to have had two sons, Daniel Tye and John H. Tye who married Juliann Hall in 1832. James was killed in 1842 in Morgan County, Ga. Morgan County is next to Oglethorpe County on the west side.
1801 Jas. Tye (James) married Frankie Collins, 1801 page 72 of Genealogical and historical notes on Culpeper County, Virginia City of Publication: Baltimore: Date: 1900 Page Count:326
1805-6 Nancy Tye born to James and Frankie in Oglethorpe County, Va. She married Thomas Jones and moved to Greenbrier, West Virginia. Nancy Tye Sex: Birth: Abt 1805 in Georgia Death: 8 Jan 1855 in Greenbrier Co., VA Note:Greenbrier Co., WV Deaths 1853-1900 Nancy Jones, born in Georgia, died on Jan 8, 1855, age 49 yrs, father James Tye, mother Frances Tye; reported by Thomas Jones, husband, cause unknown. Marriage 1 Thomas JONES b: Abt 1798 in Greenbrier Co., VA Married: in Greenbrier Co., VA (From Ancesty.com)
1811 James Tye from A list of Defaulters on Tax lists in Oglethorpe County GA. for the year 1811
“Capt Landrums Dist 8"
1820 census of Morgan County , Ga. shows no Tye listed but it is not a complete list.
1824 Daniel Tye appears on the Georgia: Morgan County: Tax Digest Tye, Daniel p.204
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/morgan/taxlists/1824.... No more has been found yet of Daniel Tye. He was born c.1802 or earlier as he had to have been old enough to pay taxes. He was probably son of James Tye b.c. 1781 who married Frankie Collins in 1801 while living in Culpeper, Va. Daniel may have been born in Culpeper and then lived in Oglethrope County, Ga. before James moved to Morgan County, Ga. The only other Daniel Tye found was born about the same time and was living in Jones County, Ga. But they may be different persons.
1832 John H. Tye married Juliann Hall Dec 27th. at Walton County, Ga. John was probable son of James Tye and Frankie Collins Tye. Walton County is just west of Morgan County (
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/fulton/walton/waltonma... Transcribed by Margie Daniels.)
1839 John H Tye is listed on the Georgia: Morgan County Tax Digest Tye, John H. 8 (
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/morgan/taxlists/1839... )
1842 John Tye is listed on the Georgia Morgan County 1842 Tax Digest Tye, John p.78 (
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/morgan/taxlists/1842...)
1842 "Tye, James H.(age unk.) /Morgan Co./ Newspaper S Misc/ Date 7/30 Year 1842 Page 3 Column 1 First word of article, Killed . From Georgia: Morgan County: Newspaper Death Reference List S - Z Surnames, 1842 - 1926." Very likely James b.c.1782 to Henry Tye b.1764. James would have died at c.age 60.
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Henry Tye born 1780's to Henry b.1764 in VA. This younger Henry died between 1812 and c.1820 in Morgan County, Ga. after having married Sarah/Sally Radford in Oglethorpe County, Ga.in 1807.
Henry married Sally/Sarah Radford in 1807 at Oglethorpe County, Ga. (From Descendants of Edward Maxey, compiled by Scott T Jones,
stjones@aol.com )
Henry TYE b.1780 Campbell Co ?, VA married May 30, 1807 Oglethorpe Co GA. Sally Radford b. c. 1784 Campbell Co.?, VA (LDS) (M. KENT MCMAHAN Microfilm: (KMCMAHAN.LOUISVILLE*WORLDNET.ATT) 2424 RANSDELL AVE LOUISVILLE KY Submission: AF97-122754 USA 40204-2113 Phone: 502-459-4423 email=
kmcmahan.louisville@worldnet.aft.net (I emailed Dec. 20, 2007 and got no answer)
1807 Henry Tye who was b. c.1782 to Henry b.1764 married Sarah/Sally Radford 30 May 1807 at Oglethorpe, Ga. Henry and Sarah settled in Morgan County Georgia which adjoins Oglethorpe County. They don't appear to have had any children.They were living close to Sarah's parents. "Sarah was daughter of Reuben Radford b: Abt. 1755 Va d: Abt. 1820 in Morgan, Georgia + Elizabeth Hackworth b: Abt. 1756 Va d: Abt. 1859, Perry, Alabama m: Abt. 1772 Va." (
http://members.aol.com/stjones/maxey/maxey7gn.txt)
1810&1812 Henry Tye b.c, 1782 is on the tax lists of the years 1810 and 1812 in Morgan County Ga.. In 1812 he would have been about 30 years old. (
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/morgan/taxlists/1810... http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/morgan/taxlists/1812...)
Henry Tye b.c.1882 died in Morgan County, Va. between c.1812 and c.1820. Sarah, his widow, remarried. Her first child with her second husband was James Bennett b.c.1824.
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Samuel Tye was most likely born 1788 in Va. to Thomas Tye and Nancy, both b.c.1770. Samuel shows up in the census of 1820 at Oglethorpe, Ga as head of a household including Nancy and Thomas Tye who are probably his parents. He continues to live in Oglethorpe County through 1840. Then he and other family members move on to Murray County, Ga. His various census reports are shown below.
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Jobe Tye probably born c. 1800 at Culpeper County, Va . Jobe's parents seem to be Henry Tye b. 1764 and Henry's second wife. Jobe shows up just once in the 1830 census of Oglethorpe County. He has a wife and two daughters at that time and also has an older female and her boys living with his family. She is most likely his mother, wife of Henry Tye b. 1764, who is now a widow with two more sons to raise.View more re. Jobe in the 1830 census below.
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Elizabeth Tye was born 1792 to John Tye at Franklin County, Va. She may have had a brothers, Thomas Tye born c.1792- 1795, Francis Marion Tye b.1790's, John Tye b.1782, and a sister, Patsy Tye, who married Thomas Cousins December 19, 1809 in Clarke County, Georgia. Elizabeth and Josiah Maxey married in 1810 and moved to Clarke County, Ga.
Nancy Tye Maxey married Jesse E. Butler Jan. 20, 1834 in Clarke Cty. Ga. She was one of the children of Eliz. and Josiah Maxey.
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Thomas Tye was born 1792-1795. Thomas is probably the son of John Tye b. before 1768. He lived for a while in Clarke County, Ga. near John's daughters, Elizabeth and Patsy. They were likely his sisters. He married Frances "Fannie" Maxey in 1816, daughter of John Maxey of Bedford County, Va. Later Thomas and Fannie moved south to Stewart County, Ga. where a number of other Tye cousins had settled.
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John Tye was born in Va.about.1800. This John could be a son of Thomas Tye and Nancy. In the census of Oglethorpe, Ga 1820 there were two young males shown living with Samuel Tye and Nancy and Thomas Tye. One of those males has not been identified. His age ranged from 16-25. One of the boys was probably Job, son of Samuel. His age range was shown to be from 16-18. The other boy may be John. In about 1800, when John was born, Nancy would have been about 30, so could easily have had another child at that time. For some reason John doesn't seem to be on the 1830 census but he appears for the 1840 census with his family. He must have left Samuel's home soon after the 1820 census, married and started his own family. By 1840 or shortly thereafter most of this part of the Tye family had moved to Murray County, Georgia, including John.
1840 census John Tye MURRAY COUNTY GA DISTRICT 824 (Series: M704 Roll: 47 Page: 272)
John Tye has 1 male 0-5 b. 1835-1840, 1 male 20-30 born 1820-1830 , 1 male 30-40 b.1800-1810, 1 female 0-5, 1 female 10-15 b. 1825- 1830, 1 female 30-40 b. 1800-1810
Four children: Son under 5 and son b.c.1820-1830, daughter under 5, daughter .b.c 1825-1830.
There is a Samuel Tye born in 1825 who was at school in Oglethorpe County in 1835. He might possibly be a son of this John who shows a boy that age living with him in 1840. If this is John's son, it would show that John was living in Oglethorpe County in the 1830's. From the Oglethorpe County Poor School Fund Names of eligible Children for children whose parents were unable to pay tuition. (At Wolfskint which is SW of Lexinton in Oglethorpe County GA.)
This could be a possible daughter of John's.
c.1821 Jane Tye born. In 1835 she was 14 and in school at Falling Creek District of GA.From the Oglethorpe County Poor School Fund Names of eligible Children for children whose parents were unable to pay tuition. This is only girl on the list of children from Falling Creek School that doesn't seem to fit any family. The closest one would be here, as a daughter of John. Her birth date of c. 1821 is too early to fit the census age given for John's daughter, but otherwise she just might be his daughter with a mistaken age listed.
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Job Tye born in Va 1803-1809 to Samuel Tye b.c. 1788. Census of 1820 shows a male that must be Job living with Samuel. Also in 1850 he lives next to Samuel in Murray County, Ga. However, If Job was born in 1803, as some have said, it makes Samuel very young to have been his father at about age 15. Job's birth date is shown as 1809 on his gravestone. Job's mother is not shown in the 1820 census so it seems she died before then. Job married Nancy McCarthy and eventually moved to Arkansas.
Probable marriage date for Job and Nancy McCarthy Tye is very early, especially for Nancy and listed as 1826. Job Tye was born in Virginia. The census of 1850 shows him to be 47 years of age at that time, so he was born about 1803 if the info. is correct. Job was living with Samuel Tye, his probable father, in 1820 at Oglethorpe County, Ga. Also living with this family were Nancy and Thomas Tye. They were most likely Job's grandparents. Job married Nancy McCarty and moved to Murray County, Ga. some time after
they won in the Georgia Land Lottery. Later they moved to Arkansas. Lucy Jane Tye b. 1848, a cousin of Job, noted that Job was a grandson of a Thomas Tye who had settled in Lexington, Georgia. Children of Job and Nancy Tye were: Nancy Ann b.1836, John Samuel b.1840, Thomas J. b.1842, Georgia Ann b.16 Jun 1848, and Henry Miller b.1850. Job was living with his probable father, Samuel in the 1820 census. Job's birth was thought to be 1809, as that is date on his gravestone but other sources like this census indicate 1803. Job's marriage date of 1826 seems to be too early. The date of 1835 for his marriage seems to fit much better when compared to the birth of his children and the age of Nancy at that time. But records confirm that they married in 1826. Job's father seems to have been Samuel Tye from Samuel's first marriage to(unk.)
I wonder if the census taker or someone transcribing the census mistook Job's age shown as 47 from age 41. It would be easy to do. If that is what happened, Job's birth in
1809 would fit Samuel's age much better.
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c. 1807 Ann F. Tye born c. 1807 in Va. Census of 1850, Culpeper County Va. shows she married John C. Hansborough who was an attorney age 43. Ann stayed in Virginia. She must have been daughter of Henry Tye b.1764 and his second wife. She was probably a sister of Sarah W. Tye and Mary Tye, who lived close to or with her.
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c. 1810 Sarah W. Tye born c. 1810 in Va. Census of 1850, Culpeper County Va. shows she married Peter Hansborough and stayed in Virginia. Her father must have been Henry Tye b. 1764. She was probably sister of Ann F. Tye and Mary Tye.
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John Tye b.c. 1818 in Culpeper, Va. to Henry Tye b. 1764 and his second wife. In 1835-'36 he was going to school and living with his older brother, Jobe Tye in Oglethorpe, County Ga. along with his widowed mother and his brother, Samuel. Nothing more is known of him at this time.
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Samuel Tye b.c. 1819 in Culpeper, Va. to Henry Tye b. 1764 and his second wife. In 1835-'36 he was going to school and living with his older brother, Jobe Tye in Oglethorpe, County Ga. along with his widowed mother and his brother, John. Nothing more is known of him at this time.
------------------------------------------------------------Samuel Tye 1820 census GA OGLETHORPE COUNTY ( Series: M33 Roll: 7 Page: 178) 1 male 16-18, 1 male 16-25, 1 male 26-44 , a male 45+ / 1 female 45+ Samuel would be about age 32. If the 1850 census is correct his birth was c.1788. The older male and female could be his parents who were born 1775 or earlier. The family remembered that an elder Thomas Tye and wife, Nancy, lived with Samuel. If Samuel was born c. 1788, he could have been their son, born about the time Thomas was 17-18 with his birth being about 1770. This fits the census report. One of the two boys shown was probably Job Tye b.c. 1803-1809 to Samuel and his first wife who remains unknown. Samuel is shown as single. There may have been another son of Thomas and Nancy. The 1840 census of Murray County shows a John Tye who was born about 1800. He is not in another census but he could have been another son of Samuel's but he could well have been another son of Nancy and Thomas. Nancy was only in her 30's in 1800. By the time of the 1830 census, this John would have been out on his own. In fact he had his own son about 1820 or so. So he may have married shortly after this 1820 census and moved elsewhere for a while. Then, after 1840 his name disappears from the records found so far. Lucy Jane Tye b.1848 was a cousin of Job's and noted that Job was a grandson of a Thomas Tye who had settled in Lexington, Oglethorpe County, Georgia. This would fit if Job was son of Samuel Tye, as Thomas would have been Job's grandfather.
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c.1822 Mary Tye was born c.1822. She was 28 years old and living in Culpeper County, Va. for the 1850 census. She was living next to John C. Hansborough age 43 who was a lawyer & Farmer born in VA. His wife was Ann F. age 35. Son Burgess 16, Bettie 8, Nelly 5. All born in VA. Mary was probably a sister of Ann F. Tye Hansborough. Mary and Ann's father must have been Henry Tye b. 1764 in Culpeper County, Va.CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE: Virginia COUNTY: Culpeper REEL NO: M432-941 PAGE NO: 249B REFERENCE: Enumerated on September 28, 1850 by J.M. Broadus, Ass't. Marshal
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http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/census/18...) Samuel is 30-40 b.1791-1800 and he has two males under age 5 b. 1826-1830, one female under 5 b.1826-1830, one female 30-40 b.1791-1800 and one female 70-80 b.1751-1760. Slaves: He has one female slave age under 10 b.1821-1829. Samuel Tye has married Elizabeth. He lost his first wife, mother of his son, Job. He and Elizabeth now have twin sons b.1830. The twins are Thomas Tye and Samuel Miller Tye. They have a daughter Mary S. Tye born before 1830 who married Martin Posey Berry. Samuel also has an older female living with his family. She was born 1751-1760. She may be a relative of Elizabeth's and she would be 70-80 years old. This lady is too old to be Nancy, wife of Thomas Tye. Nancy and Thomas were both living with Samuel in 1820 and seem to have been his parents. If Samuel was born c. 1788, he could have been their son born about the time Thomas was 17-18 with his birth being about 1770. The 1820 census shows Nancy and Thomas were b. between 1770-1780. They may have died between 1720 and 1730 as they don't show up again. Samuel must have married the first time by 1802-1808 to the mother of his son, Job. She must have died before the mid-twenties. He then married Elizabeth in the mid to late 1820's. Job was out of the home by now. Samuel b.c.1788. if ages are given correctly from the 1840 and the 1850 census reports.
These were twins born to Samuel Tye who was b.c.1788 1830 Thomas Tye Birth: March 13, 1830. He may have married Rebecca D.
1830 Samuel Miller Tye. Samuel was born March 13,1830 & died July 25, 1863
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Jobe Tye 1830 census of Oglethorpe Co.GA from Census of GA OGLETHORPE COUNTY 1830 Census, Oglethorpe Co. GA Capt. Walker's District page 94 Submitted by E. Annette Hudson Rose (
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/census/18...) Jobe Tye has one male 10-15 b. 1816-1820 and one male 15-20 b. 1811-1815 and one male 20-30 b. 1801-1810. and two females under 5 and one female 20-30 b. 1801-1810 and one female 40-50 b. 1780-1790. Slaves: 3 male slaves under 10, b1821-1829 and 1 female slave under 10 b. 1821-1829, one female slave 36-55 b. 1776-1794. Finding the parents of Jobe has been difficult. It was hard to place him in the Tye families of Oglethorope County, Ga. where he was living in 1830. There was only this one census to provide information about his children and the others living with him It turned out that some of the children going to school in 1835-1836 in Oglethorpe County could not be attached to any of the County families until the ages of Jobe's children were found to fit at least two of them. They were Mourning Tye and Nancy Tye . Next there was the puzzle of the older female living with them and with two boys that couldn't be sons of Jobe, as he was too young to be their father. The older female was old enough to be the mother of Jobe. Evidently she was a widow with two sons. Checking the list once again of children going to school in Oglethorpe County, there were two Tye males who fit the ages of the two boys, sons of the widow Tye. They were Samuel Tye b. 1718 and John Tye b.1719. But there still was no mention of their father or where the boys and their mother had lived before coming to Oglethorpe County. Who was their father? There were two options to consider. This Tye male must have died 1829 or before. His widow was born between 1780-1790. Her husband must have been born at least by then and probably earlier. It was clear that Jobe did not fit as a son of Thomas and Nancy Tye or of Samuel Tye, who already had a son named Job. And he didn't seem to have any close relationship to the Clarke County Tyes. That left the family of Henry Tye b.1764 to consider. There was a problem trying to fit Jobe's probable mother into Henry's family as she was born 1780-1790 according to the census of 1830. If she was the mother of Jobe she would have been born close to the 1780 date. It seemed possible that this widow Tye could have been married to an unknown son of Henry Tye b.1764. But there was no indication of another son born along the way that would account for the birth of these children. It could also be that the elder Henry was her husband. Examining the known births of Henry's family, there was a long stretch between the early births of James and Henry to that of Jobe's. Sons and daughters were born from about 1782 to 1822. That seemed to suggest that Henry had been married early and had sons, Henry and James. Then their mother died. About 1798 or so, Henry married again. This second wife, who would have been much younger than Henry, would become the mother of Jobe in 1800 and then several other children. The names of these children were listed in Culpeper County census reports and it was evident that somehow they belonged to Henry's family. Now it seems fairly certain, that these were all children of Henry Tye born 1764 and that his widow was living with their son Jobe in Georgia where she had come after Henry's death. No other record of Jobe has been found as yet. Jobe would have been about 30 years old in 1830 and must have arrived in Ga. from Culpeper, Va. between the 1820 and the 1830 census. This combined family was probably having a hard time financially as they were receiving funds from the County to pay for the tuition of the four children.
These are probably the two daughters of Jobe and his second wife whose name is unknown.
Nancy Tye who was b.c. 1824-25. In 1835 age 10-11 and in school at Falling Creek District GA.and Mourning Tye who was b.c.1824-25. In 1835 age 10-11 and in school at Falling Creek District GA From the Oglethorpe County Poor School Fund Names of eligible Children for children whose parents were unable to pay tuition.
Below are the two boys who are likely younger brothers of Jobe, both sons of Henry Tye b.1764.
John Tye b.c. 1818. In 1835 he was age 17 and at school at Falling Creek District of GA. From the Oglethorpe County Poor School Fund Names of eligible Children for children whose parents were unable to pay tuition.
Samuel Tye b.c. 1819. In 1835 he was age 16 and at school at Falling Creek District of GA. From the Oglethorpe County Poor School Fund Names of eligible Children for children whose parents were unable to pay tuition.
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Samuel Tye 1840 census 227th District, Oglethorpe County GA.file 92 line 23 This file was contributed by: Jeanne Arguelles
ejarguelles@msn.com (
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/census/18...) Samuel Tye has 1 male 5-10 (born 1830-1835), 2 males 10-15 (born 1825 to 1830), 1 male (Samuel) 50-60 (born 1780-1790) 2 females 5-10 (born 1830-1835), 1 female 15-20 ( born 1820-1825), 1 female 40-50.(born 1790-1800) Samuel and Elizabeth have had another son since 1830. They have the twins, Samuel and Thomas born 1830 who are now 10. Samuel is about 52 and Elizabeth is maybe about 44. They have two more daughters born since 1830 and their daughter Mary S. is now about 15.
Samuel Tye moved to Murray County after the 1840 census and lived next to his son, Job Tye.
Samuel Tye 1850 census Georgia Murray County (Series: M432 Roll: 78 Page: 271-272) Samuel Tye age 62 b. VA.Farmer worth $1100. Elizabeth age 54 b. VA.,Thomas age 20 b. Ga, Rebecca age 20 b. Tenn., Samuel Tye 18 b. GA, Martha A. age 15 b. GA , Jane, age 8 b. GA. Samuel b.c. 1788 in VA. Thomas is probably one of the twins b.1830 in Ga. and Rebecca is probably his wife. Samuel here should read 20 and not 18 as he is twin of Thomas. Jane Tye b.c.1842. and Martha A. b.c.1835 must be daughters of Samuel.
----------------------------------------------------- Job Tye 1850 census: Murray County, Ga. Job is Living next door to his father, Samuel. Sheet No: 271B Reel No: M432-78 Division: District 63 Page No: 249 Enumerated on: November 18th, 1850 by: Absalom Holcombe Transcribed by Michael Robert Babb for USGenWeb, (
http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/Copyright: 2003)
Job Tye born 1803 in Virginia, age 47 M Farmer born Virginia / Tye Nancy 35 F b. Georgia / Tye Nancy 14 F b. Georgia / Tye John 11 b. Georgia / Tye Thomas J 8
b. Georgia/ Tye Georgia A 3 /. Job's age here shows he was b. 1803 but his gravestone reads birth 1809 which seems to fit a little better if he was born to Samuel. The age shown for Job of 47, could have been misread from 41 on this census page.
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