Richard & Ann Uren of Iron Mountain, MI (born in Cornwall)
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Richard & Ann Uren of Iron Mountain, MI (born in Cornwall)
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Posted: 22 May 2003 9:15PM GMT |
Classification: Query
Surnames: Uren, White, Bone, Friggens, Matthews, Thomas, Stevens, Hallberg, Burt
This post is in response to the Jana Veit message listed under the ‘Uren’s – Michigan’ thread. Since Jana and I are related to the Uren’s of Dickenson County and that thread is about Uren’s in Ontonagon County (no relation), I decided to start a different thread.
Hi ! - Your grandma Inez and my grandma Ethel were first cousins, so, according to the relationship charts, that makes us third cousins. Ethel’s mother, Mary Ann, was the eldest living child of Richard and Ann Uren. Although Mary Ann died in Chicago, she wanted to be buried in Iron Mountain with her relatives, so she was buried in Cemetery Park. Her headstone reads, ‘Mary Uren Thomas, 1867 – 1936, Mother’. I think my Dad’s Aunt Mary was the closest of the three Thomas sisters to the relatives in Michigan. She was the youngest and had spent the most time living there. Mary was born in Iron Mountain and stayed there until the fall after she graduated from high school. Two or three times a year, after my dad retired in ’84, he would say that they were going to visit ‘the cousins in Iron Mountain’. Sometimes, they would take his widowed Aunt Mary, and sometimes they would take his sister Fran and her husband.
Being the oldest living child of my parents (my older brother, Bill Jr, died of a heart attack at age 42 in 1986) and the oldest female distaff grandchild, I inherited all of the family photos. I even have photos taken in the 1800’s in Germany. One of them is a tin-type of my great-grandpa Yost and his brother. Included in Aunt Mary’s photo collection were a group of pictures from around 1915 to 1925. They included a couple of Mary and Inez (they were about the same age), and others with different combinations of Ann, Rosetta, Mary Ann, Dick, Lizzie, Frank, Lesa, Mary, Inez and Ethel. I also have at least a half-dozen 5x7’s of Don and Betty Lou’s wedding and assorted candid shots of them and other Uren relatives.
Unfortunately, my dad died in April, 1995, he would have enjoyed acquiring the family info that I have found on the ‘net’. Following, you will find part of the info that I have on this branch of our tree:
Antecedents of Richard Uren:
William Uren (son of William Triggs and Grace Uren) christened 29 March 1789 in Gulval, Cornwall, England – married on 6 May 1809 in Gulval, Cornwall, England to – Mary Margaret Uren (daughter of William and Mary Uren) chr 22 Jan 1786 in Gulval. They had at least 3 children: Ann chr 6 Aug 1809, John chr 3 Oct 1813 and RICHARD chr 21 Jan 1816 – all in Gulval.
Francis Bone (one of at least 7 children of Benjamin Bone) chr 5 May 1799 in Morvah, Cornwall, England married Mary ??? and had at least 6 children: ROSETTA chr 11 Jan 1822, Francis chr 16 Nov 1823, Elizabeth chr 30 Apr 1826, John chr 23 Nov 1830, Charlotte chr 21 Oct 1832 and Ann chr 4 May 1828 – all in Gulval, Cornwall, England.
Richard Uren married Rosetta Bone 28 August 1841 in Gulval, Cornwall, England and had at least 4 children: RICHARD born c 1845, Mary Jane born Feb1848, William born c 1852 and John c 1854 – all in Gulval, Cornwall, England. Both Richard and Rosetta died before the 1871 Cornwall census. In the census, William and John were living with Mary Jane, her husband – Thomas Grenfell, and her daughter Rosetta.
Antecedents of Ann White:
Thomas White (one of at least 9 children of Thomas and Elizabeth White md c 1782 in St. Keverne, Cornwall, England) chr 6 July 1783 in St. Keverne, Cornwall, England – married on 28 September 1805 in Madron, Cornwall, England to – Elizabeth Matthews (daughter of Francis Matthews chr 5 October 1760 in Penzance, Cornwall, England md 2 January 1781 in Madron, Cornwall, England to Elizabeth Boase) They had at least 11 children – 4 were born in St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall, England: Nancy chr 6 October 1805 and died 2 September 1811, Thomas chr 14 December 1806, Elizabeth James chr 3 October 1809, Nancy chr 24 November 1811 - and 7 were born in Zennor, Cornwall, England – Elizabeth chr 18 December 1813, James chr 17 September 1815, Anne chr 4 June 1817, HENRY chr 12 December 1819, John chr 11 January 1822, Mary chr 16 April 1824 and Nicholas 1 September 1827.
William Friggens (one of at least 9 children of Cyprian Friggens) chr 24 November 1793 in Gulval, Cornwall, England – married on 14 January 1815 in Gulval, Cornwall, England to – Grace Uren (daughter of James Uren) chr 3 September 1797 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. They had at least 7 children: Grace chr 11 June 1815, William chr 27 April 1817, John chr 14 November, ANNA MARIA (a/k/a DINAH) chr 26 December 1821, Elizabeth chr 18 April 1824, Richard 16 July 1826 and Mary Jane chr 21 June 1829 – all born in Gulval, Cornwall, England.
Henry White md Anna Maria (a/k/a Dinah) Friggens on 15 April 1834 in Gulval, Cornwall, England and had at least 9 children: Thomas Henry chr 13 August 1843, Elizabeth Jane chr 26 January 1845, Richard Nicholas chr 3 May 1846, ANN MARIE chr 23 January 1948, Clarinda Matthews chr 14 July 1850, William Henry chr 15 Feb 1852, Thomas Henry born c 1854, Richard Nicholas born c 1857 and Mary Ann born c 1859 – all born in Ludgvan, Cornwall, England. Henry died by April 1871 (Dinah reported that she was a widow in the 1871 Cornwall census).
Richard & Ann Uren and Descendents
Richard Uren married Ann Marie White about 1867 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. They had 9 children:
MARY ANN was born 4 October 1868 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. She married William John Thomas (son of Achsah Rhoda (Goldsworthy) and Nicholas Prynn Thomas – Wm was born on 23 February 1867 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England). They married on 8 September 1890 in Iron Mountain, MI. Their daughter Vera was born there on 24 July 1891. William was a miner and they joined his family in Butte, Montana. Ethel was born 9 April 1896 in Colorado. Mary Ann lost two children in infancy. She divorced William while she was pregnant with their third daughter and moved back to Iron Mountain. Mary Audrey was born 24 September 1904. Ethel married in 1914 and moved to Chicago. They had three children and 10 grandchildren. She was a widow when she died in 1951. Vera married in Chicago, wanted but couldn’t have children and was a widow when she died in 1960. Mary Audrey didn’t want children. She had been married, divorced, married and widowed when she died in 1982. Mary Ann’s second husband was William Stevens. They married in 1919 in Iron Mountain and she was recorded as divorced in the 1930 census. Mary Ann and Mary Audrey moved to Chicago in September 1922. I don’t know if William moved with them. My Aunt Fran remembers her Grampa Stevens. Mary Ann was living with her daughter Vera when she got sick and died 21 May 1936. Her body was transported from Chicago to Iron Mountain and she was buried in Cemetery Park.
FRANCIS was born 4 August 1870 in Zennor, Cornwall, England. He immigrated to Michigan in 1887 to join his father working at the Chapin Mine. He was married c 1905 to Mary Louise Hallberg. She was born 27 February 1886 in Gottenburg, Sweden and emigrated in 1902. Frank and Lesa had 6 children: William Francis born 14 October 1905, Myrtle Louise born 1908, Richard John born 9 April 1909, Olive Leona born 25 May 1910, Martha Rosetta born 5 May 1915 and Gordon Edson born 24 July 1920.
RICHARD HENRY was born March 1873 in Zennor, Cornwall, England. He immigrated to Michigan with his mother and two sisters in 1888. He married Elizabeth ??? c Oct 1999 in Iron Mountain. She was born March 1876 in Canada and emigrated in 1991. They had 11 children: Ruth born 28 July 1900, Richard J. born 1 January 1902, Inez born 19 October 1903, Elizabeth born c 1906, Violet born 4 May 1909, Howard born 27 October 1913, Dorothy born c 1917, Jean born c 1919, Caroline born 1921 and two sons that died young: Frank at 2 yrs and John at 2 months.
ROSETTA was born October 1877 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. She immigrated to Iron Mountain with her mother, Mary Ann and Dick in 1888. She never married and worked as a saleswoman in a department store. When Ann died, Rosetta moved in with her sister Myrtle Rosetta died sometime between 1933 when Frank died and 1936 when Mary Ann died.
ELIZABETH was born between April 1879 and March 1880 (she was age 1 in the 1881 Cornwall census) in Zennor, Cornwall, England. Unfortunately, she died in March 1883.
Richard and Ann had three other children that died in infancy.
MYRTLE was born 12 June 1892 in Iron Mountain, MI. In 1920, she married Jonathan Raymond (a/k/a Ray) Burt (son of English immigrants, John & Elizabeth Burt – he was born 30 November 1892 in Iron Mountain). They had one son – Robert J. Burt. Ray died January 1975 and Myrtle died May 1875 – both in Iron Mountain. Robert was born 27 April 1924 in Iron Mountain and died 18 April 1999 in Saginaw, MI.
[Richard emigrated from Cornwall sometime between June 1878 (daughter Elizabeth born between April 1979 and March 1980) and the Cornwall census in April 1881. He died sometime between August 1991 (daughter Myrtle born June 1892) and June 1900 when Ann reported herself as a widow for the Michigan Federal Census.]
[Ann, Mary Ann, Dick and Rosetta joined Richard in 1888. Frank had already joined his father in 1887. Ann died sometime between November 1922 (I have a photo when she came to Chicago for a visit) and 1930 (she wasn’t in the 1930 census, and Rosetta, who had always lived with her, was living with her sister Myrtle’s family). Mary Ann’s grandchildren called Ann ‘Grandma Uren’ (Mary Ann was Grandma Stevens). When Frank and Dick had grandchildren, Lesa and Lizzie became ‘Grandma Uren’, and for some reason, instead of calling Ann ‘Great Grandma Uren’, she became ‘Grandma White’.]
From the info that I have on your ‘twig’, I don’t think that you live in Michigan. I was born in Chicago and lived in that area until last year. My son moved to Denver a couple years ago and I decided to move ‘out west’ too. To be coarsely honest, trying to find genealogy info in Michigan ‘sucks’. Dorothy was really nice when I contacted her about a year after my dad died. His Aunt Mary had requested that when she died, she should be cremated and her ashes spread on her mother’s grave. When I was packing up to move my mother into a retirement home, I found Great Aunt Mary’s ashes in an upstairs closet. Due to his own health problems, my dad had never completed her request. At my Aunt Fran’s suggestion, I contacted Dorothy, and she said that if I shipped them to her, she would arrange to have Mary’s ashes spread on Mary Ann’s grave.
I’ve got a few questions. If you don’t know the answers, do you think that Tillie would be able to help? I’m fairly sure she could answer them, as Dick and Lizzie’s only surviving child, but do you know if her memory is reliable now that she’s in her 80’s?
My questions –
Richard – birth date, marriage date, death date and/or emigration date?
Ann – marriage date and death date?
Frank - marriage date and death date?
Lesa - marriage date and death date?
Dick – birth date, marriage date and death date?
Lizzie – birth date, maiden name, parent’s names, marriage date and death date?
Rosettta – birth date and death date?
Looking forward to future contact,
Your cousin, Bobbi Dome
P.S. I recently changed my Email address to – bobbid@sorp.net
Hi ! - Your grandma Inez and my grandma Ethel were first cousins, so, according to the relationship charts, that makes us third cousins. Ethel’s mother, Mary Ann, was the eldest living child of Richard and Ann Uren. Although Mary Ann died in Chicago, she wanted to be buried in Iron Mountain with her relatives, so she was buried in Cemetery Park. Her headstone reads, ‘Mary Uren Thomas, 1867 – 1936, Mother’. I think my Dad’s Aunt Mary was the closest of the three Thomas sisters to the relatives in Michigan. She was the youngest and had spent the most time living there. Mary was born in Iron Mountain and stayed there until the fall after she graduated from high school. Two or three times a year, after my dad retired in ’84, he would say that they were going to visit ‘the cousins in Iron Mountain’. Sometimes, they would take his widowed Aunt Mary, and sometimes they would take his sister Fran and her husband.
Being the oldest living child of my parents (my older brother, Bill Jr, died of a heart attack at age 42 in 1986) and the oldest female distaff grandchild, I inherited all of the family photos. I even have photos taken in the 1800’s in Germany. One of them is a tin-type of my great-grandpa Yost and his brother. Included in Aunt Mary’s photo collection were a group of pictures from around 1915 to 1925. They included a couple of Mary and Inez (they were about the same age), and others with different combinations of Ann, Rosetta, Mary Ann, Dick, Lizzie, Frank, Lesa, Mary, Inez and Ethel. I also have at least a half-dozen 5x7’s of Don and Betty Lou’s wedding and assorted candid shots of them and other Uren relatives.
Unfortunately, my dad died in April, 1995, he would have enjoyed acquiring the family info that I have found on the ‘net’. Following, you will find part of the info that I have on this branch of our tree:
Antecedents of Richard Uren:
William Uren (son of William Triggs and Grace Uren) christened 29 March 1789 in Gulval, Cornwall, England – married on 6 May 1809 in Gulval, Cornwall, England to – Mary Margaret Uren (daughter of William and Mary Uren) chr 22 Jan 1786 in Gulval. They had at least 3 children: Ann chr 6 Aug 1809, John chr 3 Oct 1813 and RICHARD chr 21 Jan 1816 – all in Gulval.
Francis Bone (one of at least 7 children of Benjamin Bone) chr 5 May 1799 in Morvah, Cornwall, England married Mary ??? and had at least 6 children: ROSETTA chr 11 Jan 1822, Francis chr 16 Nov 1823, Elizabeth chr 30 Apr 1826, John chr 23 Nov 1830, Charlotte chr 21 Oct 1832 and Ann chr 4 May 1828 – all in Gulval, Cornwall, England.
Richard Uren married Rosetta Bone 28 August 1841 in Gulval, Cornwall, England and had at least 4 children: RICHARD born c 1845, Mary Jane born Feb1848, William born c 1852 and John c 1854 – all in Gulval, Cornwall, England. Both Richard and Rosetta died before the 1871 Cornwall census. In the census, William and John were living with Mary Jane, her husband – Thomas Grenfell, and her daughter Rosetta.
Antecedents of Ann White:
Thomas White (one of at least 9 children of Thomas and Elizabeth White md c 1782 in St. Keverne, Cornwall, England) chr 6 July 1783 in St. Keverne, Cornwall, England – married on 28 September 1805 in Madron, Cornwall, England to – Elizabeth Matthews (daughter of Francis Matthews chr 5 October 1760 in Penzance, Cornwall, England md 2 January 1781 in Madron, Cornwall, England to Elizabeth Boase) They had at least 11 children – 4 were born in St. Just in Penwith, Cornwall, England: Nancy chr 6 October 1805 and died 2 September 1811, Thomas chr 14 December 1806, Elizabeth James chr 3 October 1809, Nancy chr 24 November 1811 - and 7 were born in Zennor, Cornwall, England – Elizabeth chr 18 December 1813, James chr 17 September 1815, Anne chr 4 June 1817, HENRY chr 12 December 1819, John chr 11 January 1822, Mary chr 16 April 1824 and Nicholas 1 September 1827.
William Friggens (one of at least 9 children of Cyprian Friggens) chr 24 November 1793 in Gulval, Cornwall, England – married on 14 January 1815 in Gulval, Cornwall, England to – Grace Uren (daughter of James Uren) chr 3 September 1797 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. They had at least 7 children: Grace chr 11 June 1815, William chr 27 April 1817, John chr 14 November, ANNA MARIA (a/k/a DINAH) chr 26 December 1821, Elizabeth chr 18 April 1824, Richard 16 July 1826 and Mary Jane chr 21 June 1829 – all born in Gulval, Cornwall, England.
Henry White md Anna Maria (a/k/a Dinah) Friggens on 15 April 1834 in Gulval, Cornwall, England and had at least 9 children: Thomas Henry chr 13 August 1843, Elizabeth Jane chr 26 January 1845, Richard Nicholas chr 3 May 1846, ANN MARIE chr 23 January 1948, Clarinda Matthews chr 14 July 1850, William Henry chr 15 Feb 1852, Thomas Henry born c 1854, Richard Nicholas born c 1857 and Mary Ann born c 1859 – all born in Ludgvan, Cornwall, England. Henry died by April 1871 (Dinah reported that she was a widow in the 1871 Cornwall census).
Richard & Ann Uren and Descendents
Richard Uren married Ann Marie White about 1867 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. They had 9 children:
MARY ANN was born 4 October 1868 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. She married William John Thomas (son of Achsah Rhoda (Goldsworthy) and Nicholas Prynn Thomas – Wm was born on 23 February 1867 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England). They married on 8 September 1890 in Iron Mountain, MI. Their daughter Vera was born there on 24 July 1891. William was a miner and they joined his family in Butte, Montana. Ethel was born 9 April 1896 in Colorado. Mary Ann lost two children in infancy. She divorced William while she was pregnant with their third daughter and moved back to Iron Mountain. Mary Audrey was born 24 September 1904. Ethel married in 1914 and moved to Chicago. They had three children and 10 grandchildren. She was a widow when she died in 1951. Vera married in Chicago, wanted but couldn’t have children and was a widow when she died in 1960. Mary Audrey didn’t want children. She had been married, divorced, married and widowed when she died in 1982. Mary Ann’s second husband was William Stevens. They married in 1919 in Iron Mountain and she was recorded as divorced in the 1930 census. Mary Ann and Mary Audrey moved to Chicago in September 1922. I don’t know if William moved with them. My Aunt Fran remembers her Grampa Stevens. Mary Ann was living with her daughter Vera when she got sick and died 21 May 1936. Her body was transported from Chicago to Iron Mountain and she was buried in Cemetery Park.
FRANCIS was born 4 August 1870 in Zennor, Cornwall, England. He immigrated to Michigan in 1887 to join his father working at the Chapin Mine. He was married c 1905 to Mary Louise Hallberg. She was born 27 February 1886 in Gottenburg, Sweden and emigrated in 1902. Frank and Lesa had 6 children: William Francis born 14 October 1905, Myrtle Louise born 1908, Richard John born 9 April 1909, Olive Leona born 25 May 1910, Martha Rosetta born 5 May 1915 and Gordon Edson born 24 July 1920.
RICHARD HENRY was born March 1873 in Zennor, Cornwall, England. He immigrated to Michigan with his mother and two sisters in 1888. He married Elizabeth ??? c Oct 1999 in Iron Mountain. She was born March 1876 in Canada and emigrated in 1991. They had 11 children: Ruth born 28 July 1900, Richard J. born 1 January 1902, Inez born 19 October 1903, Elizabeth born c 1906, Violet born 4 May 1909, Howard born 27 October 1913, Dorothy born c 1917, Jean born c 1919, Caroline born 1921 and two sons that died young: Frank at 2 yrs and John at 2 months.
ROSETTA was born October 1877 in Gulval, Cornwall, England. She immigrated to Iron Mountain with her mother, Mary Ann and Dick in 1888. She never married and worked as a saleswoman in a department store. When Ann died, Rosetta moved in with her sister Myrtle Rosetta died sometime between 1933 when Frank died and 1936 when Mary Ann died.
ELIZABETH was born between April 1879 and March 1880 (she was age 1 in the 1881 Cornwall census) in Zennor, Cornwall, England. Unfortunately, she died in March 1883.
Richard and Ann had three other children that died in infancy.
MYRTLE was born 12 June 1892 in Iron Mountain, MI. In 1920, she married Jonathan Raymond (a/k/a Ray) Burt (son of English immigrants, John & Elizabeth Burt – he was born 30 November 1892 in Iron Mountain). They had one son – Robert J. Burt. Ray died January 1975 and Myrtle died May 1875 – both in Iron Mountain. Robert was born 27 April 1924 in Iron Mountain and died 18 April 1999 in Saginaw, MI.
[Richard emigrated from Cornwall sometime between June 1878 (daughter Elizabeth born between April 1979 and March 1980) and the Cornwall census in April 1881. He died sometime between August 1991 (daughter Myrtle born June 1892) and June 1900 when Ann reported herself as a widow for the Michigan Federal Census.]
[Ann, Mary Ann, Dick and Rosetta joined Richard in 1888. Frank had already joined his father in 1887. Ann died sometime between November 1922 (I have a photo when she came to Chicago for a visit) and 1930 (she wasn’t in the 1930 census, and Rosetta, who had always lived with her, was living with her sister Myrtle’s family). Mary Ann’s grandchildren called Ann ‘Grandma Uren’ (Mary Ann was Grandma Stevens). When Frank and Dick had grandchildren, Lesa and Lizzie became ‘Grandma Uren’, and for some reason, instead of calling Ann ‘Great Grandma Uren’, she became ‘Grandma White’.]
From the info that I have on your ‘twig’, I don’t think that you live in Michigan. I was born in Chicago and lived in that area until last year. My son moved to Denver a couple years ago and I decided to move ‘out west’ too. To be coarsely honest, trying to find genealogy info in Michigan ‘sucks’. Dorothy was really nice when I contacted her about a year after my dad died. His Aunt Mary had requested that when she died, she should be cremated and her ashes spread on her mother’s grave. When I was packing up to move my mother into a retirement home, I found Great Aunt Mary’s ashes in an upstairs closet. Due to his own health problems, my dad had never completed her request. At my Aunt Fran’s suggestion, I contacted Dorothy, and she said that if I shipped them to her, she would arrange to have Mary’s ashes spread on Mary Ann’s grave.
I’ve got a few questions. If you don’t know the answers, do you think that Tillie would be able to help? I’m fairly sure she could answer them, as Dick and Lizzie’s only surviving child, but do you know if her memory is reliable now that she’s in her 80’s?
My questions –
Richard – birth date, marriage date, death date and/or emigration date?
Ann – marriage date and death date?
Frank - marriage date and death date?
Lesa - marriage date and death date?
Dick – birth date, marriage date and death date?
Lizzie – birth date, maiden name, parent’s names, marriage date and death date?
Rosettta – birth date and death date?
Looking forward to future contact,
Your cousin, Bobbi Dome
P.S. I recently changed my Email address to – bobbid@sorp.net