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Isaac VanNeaman

JudiannM — 2009-04-13 19:05:16Z

I am looking for info on Isaac, b. 1792 in New Jersey. His parents were Isaac and Bajah (Rebecca) Denny. They married in 3/15/1781 in Woolwich Twp. New Jersey. Any info on the Vanneman, VanNeaman or Denny names would be helpful. Bajah's father was Samuel Denny.

Isaac VanNeaman, New Jersey

JudiannM — 2009-04-13 18:53:54Z

I am looking for info on Isaac b. 1792 to Isaac VanNeaman and Bajah (Rebecca)Denny. Isaac & Bajah were married 3/15/1781 in Woolwich Twp. NJ. Also spelled Vanneman.

First 3 Generations - Van Inmen, Van Nemen, Vanaman, etc.

zanpak2001 — 2009-01-25 19:36:45Z

I come into the Van Inman/Vanemen/Vaneman, Vanaman, etc., family via a variety of intermarriages into the early Vandever's and related families. Reviewing previous research and then consulting as many original records as possible, the entire framework of the family begins to break down when compared to the Vandever's and others. What I have done is realign all the dates to match known events and records into what I believe is the correct placement of the first 3 generations of the family. First I'll give the outline tree, then explain why I placed individuals in this manner. The few existing records can be found in New Amsterdam (New York), New Amstel, and New Jersey records:

1..Gerrit Van Inman b.c. 1600-1610 The Netherlands; d.c. 8 June 1684 Salem Co., NJ
2Jan Gerritsen Van Inman b.c. 1630 The Netherlands; d.c. 7 May 1707 Salem Co., NJ
3.Johannes Vanniman b.c. 1662 New Amstel; d.c. 10 April 1719 Salem Co., NJ
+.Cattran Johnsson
3.Garret Vanniman b.c. 1664 New Amstel; d.c. 1751 Salem Co., NJ
+.Margaret Johnsson
3.Henric Van Nemen b.c. 1665-1670 Salem Co., NJ
3.Peter Vanniman b.c. 1670-1680 Salem Co., NJ
3.Olof/Wollo/William Van Nemen b.c. 1670-1680 Salem Co., NJ
+.Magdalena Vandevear b.c. 1695 Salem Co., NJ

The dates of birth for the 3rd generation are somewhat arbitrary. Most researchers have Jan Gerritsen arriving in the colonies around 1650-1654 with his wife and all his sons having been born in the Netherlands. This, then, requires that his sons are assigned births prior to 1654 (at least), though I have seen some lists indicate births as late as 1665. The things that made this all seem unreasonable to me was the marriage between William/Wollo/Olof Van Nemen to Magdalena Vandevear around 1711-12. Based on the accepted date of birth ranges for William, he would be at least 40 years older than Magdalena when they married and potentially 5 or so years older than Magdalena's father, Jacob Jacobsson Vandevere (I can review Vandever data to explain dates of birth for them if anyone is interested). William would then be in his 60's when he married and around 95 when he died in 1748. Further, all of his activity in the Swedish Church would have occured while he was in his 60's-80's. This seemed extreme to me, so I took a look at the records that existed.

One of the often told premisis is that Jan Gerritszen Van Inman arrived in New Amsterdam with his father Garret. I have seen nothing to specifically verify this, but if we retain this as the truth, we know they arrived by 1654 when Jan Gerritsen Van Inman receives a grant on the west side of the North Hudson (roughly Jersey City). In 1659 he donates the property to the Dutch Church in Manhattan and is next found in New Amstel in 1660.

The next certain record available is the 1677 Census which indicates a Gerrit and a Joh. resident in the Penn's Neck area. They have been identified as Jan Gerritsen's sons Johannes and Garret, but this does not hold up if Jan's sons had all been born by 1665 at the latest. If Jan Gerritszen himself and his father Gerrit are not the two in the census, then they would both have to be over 70 and all 5 of Jan's sons would have been of taxable age, not just the two oldest. We know from looking at the rest of the Census that even if the brothers were living with brothers, there would have been an annotation to the effect which would have accounted for the other three brothers (see Jacob Vanderveer with two sons of tydable age). If, however, we identify Gerrit and Jan Gerritszen as the two in the 1677 Census, we then have to say that all of Jan's sons were born no earlier than 1662 as they would have been taxable themselves.

Interestingly, this works just fine with the Church Records and land records that do exist. If Jan Gerritsen had arrived in New Amstel and settled in the Salem Co. area by 1660 and married by 1661, then his eldest son (who appears to be Johannes) would have been born no earlier than 1662. From that point, if Johannes was named for the maternal grandfather, the next son would be Gerrit, named for the paternal grandfather. The other three sons would then be place subsequent to, their births spread out from there.

Looking at the Wills, Administrations and Inventories in Salem Co., New Jersey to correspond with these assumptions: 8 June 1684 we have Gerrit Van Inman, who would be the father of Jan Gerritsen. Jan Gerritszen's Will we find proven on 7 May 1707 naming his five known sons: Johannes, Garret (Jansen), Henric, Peter and William. The next Will is proven 10 April 1719 for Johannes Vanniman naming his sons: John, Aaron and Garret. It would appear that Garret Jansen did not leave a Will, his estate administered in 1751 and his sons being: Samuel, John, Desiderious and David. Henric sons were Henric and Lars. My data on Peter is limited, so we then turn to William who married Magdalena Vandever prior to the baptism of their first child, Elizabeth, on 14 September 1713.

This all corresponds with my theoretical descendancy tree above and allows for more reasonable dates of birth for Jan Gerritsen van Inman's sons. I also make the final assumption that Jan Gerritsen married a Swede, based on the accepted understanding that members of the Swedish Lutheran Church had to be part Swede or married to a Swede. All of his sons appear in the records of the Swedish Lutheran Churches at Raccoon, Penn's Neck and Holy Trinity in Wilmington. The last supposition that I have recently made is that Jan Gerritszen may have been married more than once. His first wife being the mother of Johannes and Garret (Jansen), whose children appear to be older than those of Henric, Peter and William (whom I believe was the youngest).

Final note: Given the apparent ages of Cattran, Margaret and Marten (Gill) Johnson (all three of whom married Vanaman's), the ages of Jan Gerritszen's sons as listed above makes more sense.

I do not take all the family lines much further, except where they are intermarried with the Vanderveer family.

Re: Isaac Vaneman, Stella Fish Vaneman

seechris4u — 2004-11-08 23:21:53Z

john sorry about that havent been on here in a long time and not sure if u replied to you do you still need the information?
chris vaneman

Re: Isaac Vaneman

JudiannM — 2004-06-24 23:36:07Z

I believe this is my great grandfather. Would appreciate any other info you have on him and Alberta and her family. I would like to know where you got this info on them. Have been looking and not finding. Please email me at judimalways@home.com.

Alberta Vaneman

JudiannM — 2004-06-24 23:36:07Z

Alberta A. Vaneman was born in 1878 not 1870. I verified this from the grave stone in Manahath Cemetery in Glassboro, NJ.

My e-mail is jschoonover@attbi.com not what Ancestry has listed. I have tried to get them to change it but no such luck.

Isaac and Stella Vaneman

JudiannM — 2004-06-24 23:36:07Z

I am incorrect when I say Stella was Isaac's wife. His wife was Alberta A. Pugh, b 1878 d 1918. I am looking for more information on both of my great grand-parents. E-mail me at jschoonover@attbi.com as the e-mail listed is incorrect and I can't seem to get it corrected.

Re: Isaac Vaneman, Stella Fish Vaneman

seechris4u — 2004-02-24 03:10:40Z

john
i have some information on george d vaneman and wives flossie edwards and he was also married to linda.actually my grandfather is george d vaneman sr. if you need any info at all email me as seechris4u@aol.com
chris vaneman

Re: Isaac Vaneman, Stella Fish Vaneman

Carol13301 — 2004-02-23 15:30:05Z

Chris.
I am looking for any information about George and Stellas parents, Grandparents and where they lived.I would appreciate any help you could give me. Are you a family member of the Alloway Vanemans? Thanks again.
John F THOMPSON

Re: Isaac Vaneman, Stella Fish Vaneman

seechris4u — 2004-02-15 16:13:44Z

what information are you looking for from george dwey vaneman?

Vaneman or Van Eman

WilliamFrew12 — 2003-12-01 05:04:00Z

Seeking information on the Vanemans of
Lawrence County and Grove City, Mercer County,
Pennsylvania during the mid-nineteenth century
and the early twentieth century.
Bill Frew frew@ix.netcom.com

Re: Isaac Vaneman

jschoonover_1 — 2002-05-27 17:19:35Z

Would you please advise where this information comes from. I am going back to NJ in July and would like to see if I can add to my family history more information on Isaac Vaneman and his wife.

Thanks, Judi

Re: Vaneman or Van Eman

2001-08-26 16:34:00Z

Bill i may have some information on the Van Eman's of Western PA, mainly from New Castle and surrounding areas, Lawerence County PA.

Re: Isaac Vaneman, Stella Fish Vaneman

2001-08-06 02:25:04Z

Judi
I would be very interested in any information you could give me about George Dewey Vaneman. He and his family lived next door to my parents for years. My younger brother married one of his daughters. They lived in Alloway N.J. He had a large family. Three sons and maybe five daughters. Many still live in Alloway. Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks. John

Vaneman, Lawrence Co. PA

marypalladino76 — 2001-06-27 05:39:30Z

My daughter in law is the great grandaugther of Laura Vaneman(1869-1955)She married Harry Samuel Parker. I believe she was the daughter of Nicholas and Elizabeth Eagleston.

Isaac Vaneman

2001-02-01 20:51:02Z

Isaac Vaneman, b.1871 d.1945 and Alberta Fish, b. 1870 d. 1918 , Alberta was the daughter of Meske Fish and Alberta Pugh

Isaac Vaneman, Stella Fish Vaneman

2000-07-01 12:21:15Z

Isaac and Stella were the parent of George Dewey Vaneman of Glassboro NJ. George was born in 1898. Any information on Isaac and Stella Fish Vaneman would be greatly appreciated.