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Re: VanNess N.y,Oh,In.,Tx.

tammyokcity — 2009-11-15 03:32:09Z

Mary's name was Mary Catherine because in one of the Census she is listed as Catherine and one listed as Mary with same husband and children...Edward Chancellor Vanness and Ida May Vanness.

I believe Ida married a guy by the last name of Mason and Edward married Eliza Susan Nicholson my 2nd great grandparents.

Some list the last name as being van Ess and I believe this to be wrong, however I do think that it was VanNest before William, either one or two generations before him. I have the people but trying to make sure correct before adding to my tree.

Thanks
Tammy

Re: Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

vanness4life — 2009-11-10 23:28:32Z

Another tidbit, my father said my grandmother definitely reported to S.S. and was collecting. And he also said that people used to call my grandfather "Bill"... even though his name on my dad's birth certificate is listed as Charles Henry Van Ness.

Re: Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

vanness4life — 2009-11-10 19:29:13Z

It is very confusing. I spoke to the cemetary, and found that the people who purchased the plot my grandfather is in, are Jacob (b 11/9/1895,d 1/28/1963) and Cora (Van Ess) Milson (b 7/23/1894, d 1/2/1972). I'm thinking Cora was my grandfather's Aunt. Also buried in plots owned by Jacob and Cora are Leonard Van Ness(b 3/15/1881, d 6/10/1959) and Jennie Townsend Van Ness (b 3/8/1884, d 3/14/1962). And on their plot, Jennie's name is listed as Jane.

The McManamey plot has four people in it: Charles (1880-1951), Ella (1886-1960), Peter C (1906-1969) and Elizabeth V. (1912-1978). That's the only information I have on them. I don't know how they are tied in, or why my grandfather is listed as living with them in 1930...

Re: Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

ajullman — 2009-11-10 15:31:50Z

1932/1934 everyone had to fill out an Social Security application form

it has on it place and date of birth and might give parents

1957 social security deaths are not all listed online

online registration starts in 1964

look in paterson evening news for an obituary

followup with cemetary - find out who purchased the plot

and study all the names around the plot

could ella (i am guessing her last name Van Ess) had charles and then married McManery?

or could charles have been the son of one of the male men with name Van ess?

I did a wild card search of either a Charles or Henry b 1913 in Paterson in 1920 census but nothing came up.

there are the city directories of paterson which has every person living in city - male and female

then there is the 1915 state census of Paterson - not indexed

something i found strange about censuses

1910 peter van ess is listed as widow but in 1920 he is back with Nellie in Grand Rapids. did he marry two woman with name of millie?

Re: Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

vanness4life — 2009-11-10 14:48:59Z

Thank you Judy. I'm still at a loss with my grandfather's history. I am unable to obtain any records of his birth, or marriage to my grandmother (if there was a marriage, which my grandmother said there was). I contacted vital records in Paterson NJ where my grandfather was born...they told me I can't obtain a birth certificate without knowing Charles' parents' names. This is impossible! The point of requesting the b.c. is to get his parents names since they are unknown at this time! Charles, my grandfather, died when my dad was 5... and then my grandmother had a fire in the house and lost everything! I have nothing on him - it's almost as if he didn't exist! I can't even find a record with the SS Death Index. All I know from the cemetery is that he was born Jan 5, 1913, and died Sept 23, 1957...he was 44 years old.

Any help or information would be appreciated. I dont know how the McManamey family ties in, but I did find them buried near my grandfather in the cemetery. So confusing!!!

Re: Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

ajullman — 2009-11-03 17:46:55Z

1895 has family in Paterson with more children

Cornelius
Martin
??Teresa female
Leonard
Peter
Ella - this must be the Ella married McManery taking care of Charles in 1930
Henry
Rachel
Cora

if charles went by name of van ess then rachel might not have been married

in 1920 Peter and Nellie are in Grand Rapids Ward 2, Kent, MI

Rachel Van Ess of New Jersey/Michigan

vanness4life — 2009-11-03 16:49:58Z

I believe my grandfather's mother was Rachel Van Ess,born in NJ. Her parents were Peter and Nellie Van Ess from Holland..they too lived in Michigan and NJ. I believe Rachel was born (according to census) in 1891. I can place her in NJ in 1910... in the Passaic area. Where did she go to from there?? I can't find any records of her marrying, moving, or anything else. I know her brother Leonard was spelling their last name as Van Ness while in NJ.

Anyone have any insight as to how I can find out where Rachel went?? I believe she gave birth to my grandfather, Charles Henry VanNess in 1913.

Thanks for any help!!

Re: Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

ajullman — 2009-11-02 22:29:15Z

1910 US, NJ, Passaic, Paterson ED 132 printed p #244 114 Mill St
Charles indexed on ancestry McManenay 28 married 1 time for 5 years b PA father b IREL mother b Scotland silk twister then have came to US in 1874 naturalized??
Ellen 24 b NJ parents b Holland
Peter 4 b NJ
Anna 1 10/12 b NJ

1920 still in Paterson
ella said instead of being b NJ b MI and parents b MI

1930 in Clifton living close to Passaic/Paterson border
Charless listed b 1913 as nephew

in 1920 there is a Charles Vanneck in Clifton correct age but do not think it is him

judy ullman ajullman@aol.com

Charles VanNess of Paterson NJ

vanness4life — 2009-11-02 02:49:25Z

I'm trying to figure out where my grandfather came from. He was born January 5, 1913 and died Sept 26, 1957. I have no information on his parents or family. I believe he may have been raised by other relatives. My grandmother mentioned the name Rachel as his possible mother. I also found a census record that places a Charles VanNess with the McManemy family... Charles McManemy b 1885 in PA married to Ella McManemy b 1886 in Michigan. And they had a son Pater McManemy b 1907 in NJ. They list my grandfather as a nephew.

Does anyone have any information or know how I can find out who his parents were? He married (so I think) my grandmother Alice Wanamaker (And I'm uncertain as to where she came from as well, but I know she was born Apr 29, 1917).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

born near Lewistown Oh.

bdaley1_1 — 2009-10-29 11:57:58Z

Sidney Daily news 19 Oct 1957. Funeral service for Henry Crawford Vanness 71, will be held Monday. He died Friday at his home Braden Lake Farm after several years of ill health. Born 30 Nov 1885, and a life long resident of Logan co.. Married in 1935 to Fern A. Rossell who survives with a half sister Myrtle (E. A.) Miller and nieces and nephews. A brother; a half-brother and four half-sisters preceded him in death. Burial in Glen cemetery Port Jefferson Ohio.

Re: VanNess

LeonaWare — 2009-10-09 20:22:21Z

Hi I also have Cornelius H Van Ness b. abt 1600 Noordeloos, South Holland, m M van den Burchgaeff. Daughter Gerritje married Roelof C. Van Houten.

I did find a Cornelius H. Van Ness in Greenbush, NY, whre it lists Cornelis Hendrikse Van Ness, who came to Beverywyck in 1642, married a daughter of Jan Janse Oothout. Van Ness had three sons by this marriage, Hendrick, Jan and Gerrit. He married second Maritie Dameus, a widow.

Have you any other info such as burial?

Re: VanNess

LeonaWare — 2009-10-09 20:20:21Z

Re: VanNess

LeonaWare — 2009-10-09 20:19:03Z

Re: Van Ness

shirlell2376 — 2009-02-16 17:05:17Z

You may want to contact our Aunt Madeline VanNess Driskill, she has done alot in finding our family tree.
Shirley

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Lanetree — 2009-02-12 05:47:05Z

Hi - new to this - I am looking for information on my great grandmother Sarah Wilhelmina Vanness - she was born in NewYork October 1870

I believe Vanness was the last name of her first husband - they were married in 1891 and for only 9 years and then he died - I do not know his first name.

Does this ring a bell for anyone? Thanks KIM

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Lanetree — 2009-02-12 05:46:11Z

Alfred Abrahm VanNess

kmkat40 — 2008-10-14 16:01:49Z

Looking for information on Alfred Abrahm VanNess. Born 1861-I am not sure where. Married a Catherine Jones. Alfred died in New York in 1902. Catherine died in 1944 Long Island NY.
They had a son Alfred Edward-his family were raised in New Brunswick New Jersey.

Re: Geo.Washington-VanNessFarmCemetaryNJ

bettylou_walker — 2003-01-11 00:43:13Z

Did you ever find this cemetery? I have a listing in a book called Dust to Dust put out by the Passaic County Historical Society in Paterson, NJ. It lists a Van Ness Plot and is in the boro of Kinnelon. (near Pompton Plains) If you would like a little more info on this cemetery let me know and I will copy what it says in my book.

Obit: Lois S. (Sandford) Bowes b. 07 Aug 1931, Bath, Steuben, NY; d. 09 Jul 2006, Urbana, Steuben, NY

2006-07-12 17:36:24Z

VanNess follow-up

2006-01-19 03:14:30Z

I do not have birth or marriage dates for William Thomas VanNess and Mary Susan
(or Mary Elizabeth) Brown VanNess. I've seen her name listed also as Betty - but on the marriage license of my grandparents, Brown VanNess (son of the above) and Bessie Lee Dudley the names of both their parents are listed. His parents are listed as W.T. and Mary VanNess. On different birth and death records for their children, I've seen her name as Mary Susan VanNess. I was also told her name was Mary Susan by my mother and her sister. Anyway, they were born in Rockbridge County (town of Lexington) Virginia. However, I do have a copy of the 1850 VA census and it shows William VanNess as 36 y.o., wife Lucinda 25, sons James as 8, William T. as 4 and John H. as 3. Then, in the 1880 census for Rockbridge Co., VA I have William Thomas VanNess as 33, wife Mary S. as 34, children Elizabeth 14, John 12, James 10, Lucinda 8, Brown 5, and Paul as 3. This matches William Thomas' age as shown the 1850 census when was 4. It's about all I have. I do not know who the parents were beyond those I have of William Thomas, nothing about Mary Susan's parents and nothing that tells me where they were before the came to VA. Do you have anything else?

Re: I have lots of info on the Van Ness or Vannest line

2006-01-18 14:06:26Z

I was wondering if you could tell me when William and Mary were born and when they were married.
And any other children they may have.
I am tring to trace my Gr. Gr. Grandfather whom was William VanNess and his wife Mary. I thought maybe there might be a connection.
Thank you for your time.

Re: I have lots of info on the Van Ness or Vannest line

2006-01-18 04:43:32Z

Do you have information on the VanNess line in Virginia? My grandfather was Brown VanNess, son of William and Mary (Susan or Elizabeth) Brown. I do not have any further information on either of them. My grandfather was born 11/6/1875 in Rockbridge County, Virginia. Thank you for anything you can offer!

Re: vanness

renayoung57 — 2005-06-22 00:01:14Z

I have a Garrett Van Ness b 1750 in my line he was married to Effie Sharp b 1740 and they had a dau. Rachel.who married a Lobdell-- Garrett fought in the American Revolution Does anyone have any info on Garrett and Effie.and there other children. Thanks

Re: Van Ness

JEmery2121 — 2007-02-12 01:39:33Z

Rena,

Email me directly about the Lobdells please @ corlissbs@aol.com . What else are you looking for?

Eugene Van Ness