03jan2005 23:14:08 nice to meet you nicholas. we are promptly sending you a reply without much information, just so that you know we received your email. thankx so much for writing. we have many pages of information; some of which you may already have if you have gotten a copy of lorretta van boven's published information on the vetrovec geneaology in her family. evidently, my grandfather was a brother to her grandfather. she is reported to be published on the ancestry.com site. we have not found it yet. a friend wrote and sent me a copy of great-grandmother's death certificate and later send me parts of lorretta's vetrovec side of the family. we finally got a copy of my grandfather's service records with dates. we located him in the 1920 census (i think it was). my uncle (john marsh) and us are trying to get a headstone for his grave-he is buried in cleveland, ohio. grandfather vetrovec's birth and death and marriage certificates or records, we have not found yet. evidently he was born 09aug1881 in cleveland ohio, lived in massachusetts in between tours of duty inn the usn 1904, 1909, 1915 ans usa 1918; and died in cleveland ohio. please write us back and let us know what or how much information you know and then we can supplement it with what we have. are you a descendant of otto, or joseph, or who?? although, it seems that the vetrovec's were a big family when my grandfather was living; it seems that the people we've corresponded with are all relatives. if you will send us your snail mail address; we'll copy what pages we have and mail them to you. hoping you have a happy, healthy, prosperous new year. thankx bert and nancy.