to the descendants of Nevil Wayland Sr
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to the descendants of Nevil Wayland Sr
 vancehawkins1952
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Posted: 4 Jan 2006 2:11PM GMT |
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howdy Ron, others --
Ron, my hard drive died and I also have a new email address, so I lost contact with you. I am ready to share some of the things I've been looking into, now. I emphacize this is circumstantial evidence and not proof. But it is interesting.
For the last few years -- since I heard of the Stoney Creek Church minutes, I have been investigating the possibility of a Melungeon/Wayland connection. Looking at the Melungeons it appears they were mixed with Piedmont Catawba. I think some researchers might think I am crazy for considering this, I don't know. :) Had I hit a dead end I'd have stopped, but that never happened. Here is some circumstantial evidence --
i.] An early explorer of the region where the Melungeons are later found was named "Wallen". In "Melungeons, examining an Appalachian Legend" by Pat Spurlock Elder she has the names Wallen and Wayland side by side as tho they might both be derived from a common origin.
ii.] There was a place in western Virginia called "Germanna Colony" -- there are Weiland's there and many of these descendants are known to have changed their name to Wayland. However these people say they don't think our "Nevil Wayland" is one of them. Just a few miles away in about 1740 a group of over 40 Saponi Indian men were ordered to move out of the county for scaring a farmer, setting the woods on fire, and hog stealing. 5 or 6 of these Saponi Indians are named and one was a "Collins" -- one of the known Melungeon surnames. There were only a few Saponi mentioned, and only a coouple of them were given last names in the account.
iii.] Thomas Gibson, a known Melungeon ancestor, mentioned in his will a daughter "Cusiah" and a wife "Mary". Also mentioned in this will are a Joel and Humphrey Gibson. If you look at early records of Arkansas, a Humphrey Gibson was in NE Arkansas even before our Nevil's 4 sons, Nevil Jr, (called Sr in Ark), William (my direct line), Henry, and Francis (moved to Arkansas a few years after his 3 brothers and mother). I think it is possible our "Keziah" Wayland and this "Cusiah" Gibson (daughter of Mary and Thomas) might be the same person, and the Mary Gibson mentioned in the minutes of Stoney Creek Church might have been Nevil Jr's maternal grandma. Francis, the last to rmove to Arkansas, paid taxes for their land on behalf of John Gibson, who had earlier gotten 15 of their 50 acres and lived amongst them.
iv.] My family has always had stories of Indian ancestry but we are not sure where it came from -- always thought Cherokee but maybe it isn't.
v.] I just took a Autosomal DNA test from GeneTree -- this test gives percent of ancestry per 4 races -- Sub Sahara Africa, American Indian, ast Asia, and European. My results were partly expected and partly a surprize. 90 % Caucasian. 3% American Indian -- I thought it would be the ENTIRE other 10 %. The surprize was 7% Sub-Saharan African -- never would have expected that. In fact I can't believe it as it means 1/16th African. I have or have seen photos of all my great grandparents and only one of them "might have any African ancestry -- that being Jeffrey Hoten Richey (b. Ar1851-d. Ok 1926). The Wayland in my ancestry was Jeff's mother Sarah Ann Wayland, William's daughter, William being the son of Nevil Sr. And we have noone if either the Richey or Wayland family that I know of that will claim any African American blood -- I don't see how it is possible to have 1/16th African ancestry (1/16th is 6.35%),altho I concede Jeff might be 1/8th from his photo. I mention this Autosomal DNA test because Melungeons are said to be bi or tri racial mixed people in the Appalachians.
None of this proves anything, put had I run into a dead end I would stopped long ago -- and that hasn't happened yet. After this DNA test I felt I ought to bring this out. I also have a photo I found of my Sarah's cousin, Jonathan Wayland that I found and copied and pasted from "A Centennial History of Methodism in Arkansas" If anyone wants to see it email me at vancehawkins@sbcglobal.net
I also have one question -- I have seen records where it says Nevil wayland Sr was born in 1754 and died in 1806 -- I have seen his death record in 1806 but have never seen anything that mentions a birth in 1754 -- does anyone know how that date, 1754 was come up with? It also says b. in SC in many records but I have no idea how anyone know that either. I wrote SC and have a copy of his revolutionary records -- I saw nothing that would suggest a time or place of birth, but admittedly, some of it is impossible to read.
I have a lot more but this note is long enough as it is. :).
Vance
Ron, my hard drive died and I also have a new email address, so I lost contact with you. I am ready to share some of the things I've been looking into, now. I emphacize this is circumstantial evidence and not proof. But it is interesting.
For the last few years -- since I heard of the Stoney Creek Church minutes, I have been investigating the possibility of a Melungeon/Wayland connection. Looking at the Melungeons it appears they were mixed with Piedmont Catawba. I think some researchers might think I am crazy for considering this, I don't know. :) Had I hit a dead end I'd have stopped, but that never happened. Here is some circumstantial evidence --
i.] An early explorer of the region where the Melungeons are later found was named "Wallen". In "Melungeons, examining an Appalachian Legend" by Pat Spurlock Elder she has the names Wallen and Wayland side by side as tho they might both be derived from a common origin.
ii.] There was a place in western Virginia called "Germanna Colony" -- there are Weiland's there and many of these descendants are known to have changed their name to Wayland. However these people say they don't think our "Nevil Wayland" is one of them. Just a few miles away in about 1740 a group of over 40 Saponi Indian men were ordered to move out of the county for scaring a farmer, setting the woods on fire, and hog stealing. 5 or 6 of these Saponi Indians are named and one was a "Collins" -- one of the known Melungeon surnames. There were only a few Saponi mentioned, and only a coouple of them were given last names in the account.
iii.] Thomas Gibson, a known Melungeon ancestor, mentioned in his will a daughter "Cusiah" and a wife "Mary". Also mentioned in this will are a Joel and Humphrey Gibson. If you look at early records of Arkansas, a Humphrey Gibson was in NE Arkansas even before our Nevil's 4 sons, Nevil Jr, (called Sr in Ark), William (my direct line), Henry, and Francis (moved to Arkansas a few years after his 3 brothers and mother). I think it is possible our "Keziah" Wayland and this "Cusiah" Gibson (daughter of Mary and Thomas) might be the same person, and the Mary Gibson mentioned in the minutes of Stoney Creek Church might have been Nevil Jr's maternal grandma. Francis, the last to rmove to Arkansas, paid taxes for their land on behalf of John Gibson, who had earlier gotten 15 of their 50 acres and lived amongst them.
iv.] My family has always had stories of Indian ancestry but we are not sure where it came from -- always thought Cherokee but maybe it isn't.
v.] I just took a Autosomal DNA test from GeneTree -- this test gives percent of ancestry per 4 races -- Sub Sahara Africa, American Indian, ast Asia, and European. My results were partly expected and partly a surprize. 90 % Caucasian. 3% American Indian -- I thought it would be the ENTIRE other 10 %. The surprize was 7% Sub-Saharan African -- never would have expected that. In fact I can't believe it as it means 1/16th African. I have or have seen photos of all my great grandparents and only one of them "might have any African ancestry -- that being Jeffrey Hoten Richey (b. Ar1851-d. Ok 1926). The Wayland in my ancestry was Jeff's mother Sarah Ann Wayland, William's daughter, William being the son of Nevil Sr. And we have noone if either the Richey or Wayland family that I know of that will claim any African American blood -- I don't see how it is possible to have 1/16th African ancestry (1/16th is 6.35%),altho I concede Jeff might be 1/8th from his photo. I mention this Autosomal DNA test because Melungeons are said to be bi or tri racial mixed people in the Appalachians.
None of this proves anything, put had I run into a dead end I would stopped long ago -- and that hasn't happened yet. After this DNA test I felt I ought to bring this out. I also have a photo I found of my Sarah's cousin, Jonathan Wayland that I found and copied and pasted from "A Centennial History of Methodism in Arkansas" If anyone wants to see it email me at vancehawkins@sbcglobal.net
I also have one question -- I have seen records where it says Nevil wayland Sr was born in 1754 and died in 1806 -- I have seen his death record in 1806 but have never seen anything that mentions a birth in 1754 -- does anyone know how that date, 1754 was come up with? It also says b. in SC in many records but I have no idea how anyone know that either. I wrote SC and have a copy of his revolutionary records -- I saw nothing that would suggest a time or place of birth, but admittedly, some of it is impossible to read.
I have a lot more but this note is long enough as it is. :).
Vance