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Welborn/ Dudley Family

cwaggle — 2009-10-21 15:37:17Z

I need help in proving the relationship of Elizabeth Dudley who married James Welborn of Kentucky, to her father Christopher Dudley of Halifax Co. North Carolinia. I have Chirstopher's will but Elizabeth was too young at the time to have been married to James Welborn. They should have been married around 1790-1792. Colleen

Re: looking for father

robertsbrad4 — 2009-10-02 04:08:19Z

I know your ad is 7 years old and I don't know if you are still looking for your father. I knew a Barry Welborn about 3 years ago who lived on Garden in San Bernardino. He was living with a woman named Antoinette "Toni" Covington and had 3 younger children (they would be about 15-17 now). He has a brother, "Gary", who is married to a woman named Yvonne, and they also lived on Garden. He had told me that he was previously married and had other children but he didn't know where they were. The Barry I knew said that he had been a "Jockey", though he is about 6 feet tall. Barry also had another brother who had drown sometime in the past at Lake Perris. Barry would be about 50-51 years old at this time.

WELBORN O W Pinky and Patsy

t42MountOlivet — 2009-10-01 18:53:21Z

WELBORN O W Pinky and Patsy

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WELBORN Rodney 1925-1989

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-10 01:24:52Z

WELBORN Rodney 1925-1989

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WELBORN Gloria N 1936-2003

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-21 15:43:48Z

WELBORN Gloria N 1936-2003

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WELBORN Donald R 1932-

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-21 15:43:30Z

WELBORN Donald R 1932-

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WELBORN Byron and Latrelle

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-21 15:43:18Z

WELBORN Byron and Latrelle

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WELBORN Randall D 1961-1978

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-21 15:43:08Z

WELBORN Randall D 1961-1978

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WELBORN Haiden T and Margaret Ruth

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-21 15:11:11Z

WELBORN Haiden T and Margaret Ruth

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Welbourns of Accomac

RansomeWelborn — 2009-07-12 21:45:07Z

My ancestor is Edward Wilbourn, first seen in Prince William Co., VA in 1753 and died in Surry Co., NC in 1806. I have my line completely documented back to Edward with physical documents (copies of state records). I would like to take the line further back. I tried this by finding circumstantial evidence (records) that appeared to point to a father for him by naming patterns, location, age ranges, and other theoretical possibilities. Taking all of these into account, I came to a conclusion that it was most probable that he was a son of Thomas and Margaret Wilbourn of Frederick Co., VA, but could find no document to prove it. Also, another family claimed Thomas as the father of their Edward Wilbourn, born about the same time. The document they relied on was a family bible that named Thomas and Margaret as his parents.

They started a DNA Project to prove their claim. There were some Wilburn/Welborn/etc. participants from several different lines that were shown to be not from their family. I took a DNA test and found that I also didn't match them. My conclusion from this is that no matter how convincing a theory is as to an ancestor being in your line, the only way to know for sure is physical documents or DNA. I did find from this is that I am an exact match with what was identified in the group as the Arkansas Wilburns, whose earliest documented ancestor was William W. Wilbourn who was born in Mecklenburg Co., VA on 12 May 1782 as shown on his tombstone marker in Carroll Co., Arkansas. I had never even considered them as in my line. I just submitted a male first cousin of Vikky Wilburn Anders to be tested. His test showed that that line is also a match. Here we have 3 Wilbourn lines that have the same DNA. There appears to be 1 or 2 other distinct lines in this group, but I can't determine from the available information which these other lines are.

I would like to find someone from the Accomac line that has taken a DNA test with any provider to compare with ours to see if there is any connection or not. If not, then I can narrow my search within the 3 lines that I have proven. It would be very easy if there was an Accomac Welborn tested in the same group with FtDNA Company. Then I could just check their test # and know whether to eliminate the Accomacs from my search.

If any male Wilburn/Welborn/Welbourn/etc. has take a DNA test, lets get together and compare and get some benefits from the test.

Ransome Welborn

Courageous Civil War Wellborn

robstroud — 2009-07-06 17:16:01Z

From the Official Rosters:

Lyndon M. Wellborn

Residence Wilkes County NC; 21 years old.

Enlisted 5/31/1861 at Wake County, NC as a Private.

On 5/31/1861 he mustered into "B" Co. NC 1st Infantry
He was Killed on 11/27/1863 at Payne's Farm, VA

Wounded 5/3/1863 Chancellorsville, VA (Wounded in left thigh)

Promoted to Corpl 3/31/1863 (Estimated day of Promotion).

Powerful testimony to his courage, from a comrade, Finley P. Curtis, Jr. writing in the Confederate Veteran magazine of 1916:

The entire line now moved forward; and as we leaped upon the fence Linville Wilburn, who was ever by my side a fine young soldier, held up his hand to me and said calmly “Good-by; I am killed.” A Minie ball had pierced his neck; and he died as only a brave man can, nobly, not murmuring. Sadly I left him my friend; but his tragic death dwelt in my mind throughout the battle.

When half across the field the enemy again rose and delivered another volley of lead, and again it swept harmlessly overhead. Surely they were blind or else unused to rifles. The tube flew out of my gun and gashed my finger. I cast it from me and drew another from under a dead Yankee, but I found it filled almost to the muzzle with unfired charges. He had loaded and reloaded rapidly but had not fired a shot. And there unconsciously I stood, a target for a thousand rifles, unarmed in a whistling leaden hail. It is strange that the soldier does not fear death. Night ended the conflict with a great victory for us and very few of our men killed. We captured a number of prisoners, guns, cooking utensils, ammunition, etc. But since all victories are dearly bought, this was for me at least, for it cost the life of my friend Linville Wilburn.

Re: Welborn/Dudley

sue63775 — 2009-06-30 21:16:38Z

Hi.... my info comes from that book. My other side is Heltsley. No Dudleys...sorry. I will look in my Heltsley book to see if there is any additional info on Welborn

Welborn in North Carolina

MegMagee — 2009-06-24 14:46:28Z

Looking for any info on my grandmother's side of the family. Her name was Helen Iona Welborn (before marriage). She was born in North Carolina and her mother's name was Mary Catherine. My grandmother's siblings were a sister named Virginia and her brother's names are Kenneth(still living) and Bob (deceased). My grandmother married Ralph Biggerstaff and had four children.

Thank you,
Meg Magee
redstorm2@msn.com

Re: Welborn/Dudley

cwaggle — 2009-06-19 19:56:00Z

Hi, I have a copy of that same book! I have been looking for their marriage records. I am descended from Willis's son John B. Welborn. I am also working on the Dudley side. I have Elizabeth's parents as Christopher Dudley and Elizabeth Daniel. I would be interested in sharing information. waggle@localnet.com

Re: Welborn/Dudley

sue63775 — 2009-06-19 19:13:41Z

I have a copy of "James Welborn of Muhlenberg County and his descendants". It lists James WElborn born 1771 in North Carolina, died Oct 1826 in Muhleberg County, Ky. He married Elizabeth Dudley, born 16 Oct 1774 in Rowan county, North Carolina and died in May 1842 in Muhlenberg county.
Both are buried in Hazel Creek Cemetery in Muhlenberg County, KY

My reference lists 12 children including Willis.

My maternal grandfather Willis Pearl Heltsley's mother was Lydia H. Welborn , daughter of James, who was the son of Willis who was the son of James and Elizabeth.

He must have been named for Lydia's grandfather Willis.

I have much more info

Welborn/Dudley

cwaggle — 2009-06-18 23:24:52Z

I am descended from James Welborn and wife Elizabeth Dudley's son Willis. I am trying to find the marriage record for James and Elizabeth.

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

Lindra_Smith — 2009-05-30 06:09:15Z

Do you have an email address for her?

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

Lindra_Smith — 2009-05-30 06:07:31Z

Can you tell me where I can peruse this book to determine if the James is my James?

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

2008-10-25 14:29:09Z

WHERE CAN YOU GET THIS BOOK PLEASE?

Mary Welborn of Port Arthur, TX 1928

drbrownlee — 2009-05-22 01:38:02Z

Mary is pictured in the 1928 Sea Gull, yearbook of Port Arthur High School. She is a junior. I'm not kin but thought this might help another researcher locate family.

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD

Chemteach60 — 2009-01-05 21:30:40Z

Edward Wilbourn born c 1655 died between 24 June 1730 and 8 September 1731 in St. George Parish, Baltimore County, Maryland.
He signed his Will on 24 January 1729 and Bond was posted for settlement Edward Wilbourn Will--signed 24 June 1730. Names wife, Elizabeth. The administrated bond was posted 8 September 1731 by Thomas Wilbourne with Thomas Mitchell. The widow, Elizabeth having given administration in favor of her son Thomas Mitchell. The deceased named: Thomas, William, Anne and Elizabeth.n 8 September 1731.
Edward married Elizabeth [Mitchell]--her maiden name may have been DeMoss...she had son, Thomas Mitchell when she married Edward. The four children of Edward are named above.
William was born 21 January 1705 and married Ann Crabtree. I descend from their son, William who married Hepzabeth Stearns. This William was born in St. George Parish, Baltimore County, Maryland and died 24 august 1791 in wilkes County, Georgia. He sojourned for a period of time in North Carolina and his son, General James Wellborn, remained in North Carolina and is buried in Wilkes County, near the town of Wilkesboro on the "home plantation property"...his gravesite and family cemetery destroyed by development....James's wife, Rebecca Montgomery Wellborn is buried in Marshall County, Mississippi.

Hope this helps clarify information on this family.
The information you stated does not appear to agree with my documented evidence.

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

@@Bbalbers@aol.com — 2008-10-25 14:28:12Z

The book referred to was written by Gail Jackson Miller and her address is 425 Midcrest Drive
Bowling Green, KY 4210

Thanks,
Barbara Albers

Newman/Welborn Book

@@Bbalbers@aol.com — 2008-10-25 14:27:50Z

Did you know that there was a book written regarding the Welborn family that also covers a lot of the Newman Family back to 1744. The name of the book is "James Welborn of Muhlenberg County and His Descendants" and is written by Gail Jackson Miller. I hope this will help you in your research.......Hoping to hear from you........Barbara

Re: Welborn Family....Smith Co. MS

Tina_Welborn — 2008-10-05 22:29:33Z

My Grandfather was Sylvester Welborne ,his wife was Johanna Herrington Welborne. I don't know much about the rest of the family,however I do know that my grandfather had a brother name Wallace Welborne,who once lived in Mt. Olive Miss. he also came and lived in Oak Grove Louisiana for a while and then married and lived in Bastrop Louisiana for a while and then I lost contact with him, Any info you have to share is greatly appreciated Thanks Tina

Re: Jesse Preston Welborn b. 1880

msbarker2u1 — 2008-05-05 22:00:51Z

Cody Welborn was my great uncle. He was the brother of my paternal grandmother, Mary Lucille Welborn Burdett. I remember him and his wife Erin coming to visit us in Sulphur when I was a little girl. My grandmother passed away when I was 13 and I don't think I ever saw Cody and Erin after that.

I had Cody's mother's maiden name as Ella Hutchinson or Hutcherson, but I was never absolutely sure about that. If Erin gave you that info, you are probably correct. I had some 4000 names in my database, but my computer crashed several years ago. That data did not get transferred.

You are my dad's cousin I believe. I never had any info on Great Uncle Cody's kids. There were five kids of Jesse Preston Welborn and Ella. Her name was actually Louella. They were your dad Cody, his older brother Sherman, my grandmother Mary and they also had a sister but I don't remember her name. There was another brother named Preston that died when he was in his 20's.

Let me know what you want to know and I'll tell you what I remember. It will have to be from memory since I lost all my data.

Boyden Welborn born 1857 in Yadkin Co., NC father was Mayberry Welborn

gunny142 — 2009-04-06 14:37:24Z

Any one have info on Mayberry or Boyden's mother, probobly resided in Yadkin Co.

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD

chemteach — 2009-01-06 23:41:15Z

I do not believe the Edward in Chester County [the one who got in trouble] is the same Edward in Maryland.

Several of us researching this line several years ago came to that conclusion due to the dates, etc.

Re: NEED PARENTS

gvswearingen — 2008-03-24 04:44:57Z

Father of Moses (1782-1826) would appear to be Moses (b. about 1762) and Martha Teague (b. 1762, d. 22 Oct 1815).

Moses Jr was born 05 Nov 1782 and died 07 Aug 1826. He married Elizabeth Mock (b. 1789). She died in Lafayette, MO. David and Jacob were children who ended up in MO, as far as I can tell.

The Teagues, Welborns, Spurgeons/Spurgins, Bodenhamers, Daniels tie into my family from the Abbot's Creek Church. Jackson County, IN is the where some family members ended up.

Hopefully, this helps out a bit.

Welborn - Wilburn History 1953 Book

BruceYoung54 — 2009-02-25 21:59:05Z

I was able to get a copy of the book for my colection. Tere are a number of different spellings of the family name Welborn, Wellborn, Wilborn, Wilbourne, Wilburn.
Thomas Welborn 2nd child of Samuel his wife Mary Chaplel
Thomas Wilbourn 5th child of Thomas 4th son his wife Esther went to Buffalo Creek, SC. My line back with John son of Thomas Sarah York

Re: Alfred A. Welborn & Elizabeth Unknown Tennessee

ticky21 — 2008-06-04 02:16:22Z

you asked for information for a roy thomas welborn, descendant of charles welborn

Re: Welborn Family - Anderson County SC

Roy_Knapp — 2008-08-25 03:16:26Z

Welborn family in Anderson Co. SC
I am related to the Welborn's via Bennett,Martin, Pepper, Cox, Holcombe out of Laurens & Anderson Co's. I have visited gravesite of mentioned. Location of cemetery
I visited was near Williamston with cemetery named ...
Big Creek Baptist Church Cemetery ... historical marker
in the town ... some historical church records can be
found via 'google'.
Roy Knapp

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD

GordonBonnet29 — 2009-01-05 21:46:18Z

I agree that this information doesn't jibe with what I found; in the intervening years I've found nothing that supports what was on that website, so I suspect it was incorrect. I still don't know what its source was.

What evidence do you have that suggests that Elizabeth was a DeMoss?

While I'm on the subject of Elizabeth, I have a question (actually a series of questions) about her. You seem to have researched the family extensively, so I'm curious as to what you'll think.

The usual way of assembling Edward Wilbourne's family is that he lived in Chester Co., PA until some time after 1707, the year in which he is on record as having gotten in trouble with the law in Chester Co; after that he came to Harford (then Baltimore) County, bought some land, had a prosperous blacksmith business and died there in 1731. As you state, he married Elizabeth ___, widow of a Mitchell; she'd had one known child, Thomas Mitchell, by her first husband. (This relationship is proven by a document in which the administration of the estate is relinquished by Elizabeth to "her sons Thomas Welborn and Thomas Mitchell;" and this Thomas Mitchell is usually identified as the Thomas Mitchell who married Ann Teague, about whom more below.)

The problem is, the dates don't add up; or else I'm not seeing something clearly here. The Thomas Mitchell who m. Ann Teague, who is supposedly Elizabeth's son, was in Harford County by 1700 (by his own statement); this is confirmed by the fact that he's on the tax lists for Spesutia Hundred in 1703. He is on record as having stated his age in 1730 (he said he was 46), allowing us to calculate his birth year as 1684. Therefore, in 1700, the year he came to Harford Co., he was 16 years old and presumably was accompanied by his parents (or his mother, if she was already a widow).

Now, here's the rub. Elizabeth and Thomas Wilbourne, eldest children of Edward, were born ca. 1700 and ca. 1702, respectively. (These are approximate dates but can't be off by much, as the two were _documented_ as married in 1721 and 1723, respectively.) This requires Elizabeth to be in two places at once -- in Chester County PA, where Edward was still living at the time, and in Harford County with her only son by her first marriage, Thomas Mitchell.

You might argue that Thomas, being at that point an older teenager, would have been capable of living on his own, or was living with relatives, and that his mother could well have been back in Chester County with her second husband. However, that's not the only problem. Thomas Mitchell was born in 1684. This means that Elizabeth was born in 1664 at the latest. Edward Wilbourne's youngest child, William, has a documented birthdate of 1712. At that point, Elizabeth, Thomas Mitchell's mother, would have been _at the youngest_ 48 years old! It's not impossible, but it certainly would be unusual.

All of this is leading me to believe that there were multiple marriages here, but whatever I do, I can't seem to make the pieces fit. Here's what we know:

1) Thomas Mitchell (b. 1684) and Thomas Wilbourne (b. 1702) were half-brothers, both children of Elizabeth (__) (Mitchell) Wilbourne. Elizabeth was still alive in 1731 when she relinquished administration of her husband's estate to these two sons.

2) Edward Wilbourne is documented as living in Chester County until 1707. His first mention in Harford County is in 1719.

3) Thomas Mitchell made a statement of his age and the number of years he'd lived in Harford County. His birth year (1684) is calculated from that statement, and if it's off, it's only by a year or two. His year of moving to Maryland, from that document, is 1700, and this is substantiated by his appearance on the Spesutia Hundred tax lists in 1703.

4) There is a large gap between the births of Edward Wilbourne's two oldest children (Elizabeth (1700) and Thomas (1702)) and his two youngest (Ann (1711) and William (1712)). This may not mean anything, but makes me suspicious of a second marriage. But if so, how could Thomas' mother Elizabeth still be alive in 1731? Divorce was rare enough in those days that it surely would have shown up in the records.

The only other possibilities I can think of is that (1) the Thomas Mitchell who received administration from Elizabeth Wilbourne wasn't the same Thomas b. ca. 1684. But I don't really see any other Thomas in Harford County that it could have been! Or (2) the Edward Wilbourne in Chester County isn't the same man as the Edward Wilbourne who settled in Harford County (maybe they were father/son?).

Can you help with this confusion? I suspect there's something I'm not seeing clearly here, and maybe other eyes will be able to discern what's going on.

cheers,

Gordon Bonnet
Trumansburg NY

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

lkw032 — 2009-05-28 15:25:17Z

i might be kin to you my great grandfather was james welborn

Re: Moses Welborn, War of 1812

denaliporter80 — 2009-02-12 17:29:18Z

They went to Gibson County, Indiana

WELBORN Harley Floyd 1922 1924

t42IOOF_DenCoTX — 2009-01-01 15:34:19Z

WELBORN Harley Floyd 1922 1924

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WELBORN Joe Weldon 1921 1956

t42IOOF_DenCoTX — 2009-01-01 15:34:04Z

WELBORN Joe Weldon 1921 1956

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WELBORN James J 1893 1971 Texas pvt Co G 59 Infantry W W I

t42IOOF_DenCoTX — 2009-01-01 15:33:45Z

WELBORN James J 1893 1971 Texas pvt Co G 59 Infantry W W I

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WELBORN Lillian F 1901 1982

t42IOOF_DenCoTX — 2009-01-01 15:33:33Z

WELBORN Lillian F 1901 1982

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WELBORN Reedie 1884-1951

t42RoseHill — 2009-04-10 22:42:30Z

WELBORN Reedie 1884-1951

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Re: Thomas Anne Welbourn of Woolsthorpe, Lincs, Uk

MaryLyn29 — 2009-04-14 12:27:27Z

Our Huckerby family which includes your Sarah Ellen married to Percy came from Great Gonerby near Grantham moved to Newark and area then Nottingham. If you contact me I can give you the line. Know this is an old thread but my info may come in useful.

Re: Jesse Preston Welborn b. 1880

MBUFKIN8916 — 2008-05-05 22:44:56Z

I believe we are related! So good to hear from a relative of my father. I didn't know my father or his family, while growing up. My mother moved to Kerman, California, when I was only 2 yrs old. I met my father, after I located him in the phone book. he had forgotten me. The only information that I have is what I e-mailed to you. I didn't stay in touch with them, after they came to visit. I wished I had. But, I was having so many personal problems, at the time. I had moved from Kerman, California to Fresno, California, after a divorce. Now, I am sorry that I did'nt stay in touch with them. I found information on the internet that he passed away in Madison, Alabama, in 1986. How, I do not know. I believe the Welborns also had relatives in Alabama, according some information that I have gotten from the internet. You probably have the correct maiden name for Ella Welborn. It has been so many years. I have forgotten. When they came to visit, Erin told me that I look like my dad's mother, Ella Welborn. I wish I could have know her. My daughter, Tina McClure, is trying to create a family tree. You may be close to her age, or you may be younger, she is 44, and has a daughter named, Ashley Marie, she is now 21 years old. As I said I don't know anything more about my dad's side of the family. I would like to know everything that you can tell me. Are all of his sister's and brothers gone? I am so happy to hear from you.

Re: Jesse Preston Welborn b. 1880

MBUFKIN8916 — 2008-05-05 20:27:20Z

I am sending this message to Mary Barker2U, or anyone looking for the Cody Welborn family. I believe we may be related. My daughter is doing a family tree & she found your name. My name is Rose Marie Bufkin, My fathers name was Cody Welborn, who was born in Sulpher, Oklahoma. My mother is Estell Gibson, she was married to Cody Welborn, but they divorced, when I was a baby. I met him one time with his wife at the time, Erin Welborn. They told me his fathers name was Jesse Preston Welborn, and his mother, was Ella Welborn, but Erin told me that Ella's maiden name was Henderson, or Hendersen, not sure which spelling. Cody also has a son, Cody Darrell Welborn, and a daughter, Joyce Cox, they both were living in Bakersfield in the 1970's. I would appreciate any information anyone could give regarding the Cody Welborn family of Sulphur, Oklahoma. I also was born in Sulphur Oklahoma, but was raised in Kerman, California.

also known as slim

Lindra_Smith — 2008-08-09 21:31:08Z

brother Foster Arlo Welborn - sisters Calvin & Bert

William Wallace Welborn

Lindra_Smith — 2008-08-09 20:09:38Z

My name is Lindra Welborn Smith. My granddad was William Wallace Welborn. He was born around 1881 on a farm near Hopkinsville Kentucky. His dad went by the name "Big Red" and he also had a son named Foster Arlo Welborn. My dad's name is John Arthur Welborn. It is said that some of my relatives were moonshiners. The thing is my dad is 87 and has dementia and can remember very little. I would love to bring some of his history to him. Can anyone out there help?
Sincerely,
Lindra Welborn Smith

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

Lindra_Smith — 2008-10-25 01:11:42Z

My great grandfather was James Welborn from Muhlenberg Kentucky he had I think four wives and many children. He died when pulling logs and a log rolled over him. Can you tell me where I can find this book?
Sincerely,
Lindra Welborn Smith

Re: Newman/Welborn Book

Lindra_Smith — 2009-05-30 06:05:30Z

hi i would love to hear what you know i do have an awesome picture of the welborn clan not sure who is who but maybe we can fill in each others missing pieces. Thanks for responding i do have so much info. My grandfather was William Wallace Welborn. Anxiously awaiting your response -
Lindra Welborn Smith

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD

tinkwelborn1 — 2009-01-09 03:02:22Z

Well, I can't seem to contribute to this conversation. When I try to paste my notes, I get an Invalid data response. I suspect because I have web and email addresses embedded. I have first treated superscripted footnoting. Let's see if this fixes my problem.....Nope. So now let me eliminate all web and email addresses....

thought I'd ''throw'' some notes I've collected out here. Firstly, I couldn't paste this info on the boards for some reason, therefore I've decided to email it to each of you. I've not had the time (yet) to mull over your questions with these notes and the notes you've provided. Hopefully, I'll be able to sit down this weekend and digest them. But here these are, in the interim.

St. George Parish Register, Baltimore, Maryland indicates Edward Wilbourn died June the 24th 1731. Page 265, f.101.

Gene Welborn's Welborns and Related Families, page 5, notes: "Edward Welborn was in Maryland in the late 1600s and is the first Welborn that can be tied to the Welborns that settled in the Pendleton District, South Carolina, in the late 1700s. The first known record of Edward Welborn is his will in 1730 and the record of his death, June 21, 1731, as recorded in the St. George's Parish Register, Baltimore County, Maryland.

980513, Ruckersville, VA. Marvin Welborn. The following is extracted from the opus of Mrs. Ann Beason Gahan, Comp., "Wilbourn Genealogy," 22 July 1986, revised 22 March 1993. N.p. She has written: Edward Wilborn (d. 24 Jan. 1730/31, St. Georges Parish Reg., p. 265 of transcript, but p. 101 of "original" register in Hall of Records, Annapolis). 2 SOUR S34

WILL OF EDWARD WILBOURNE
(Colonial Wills, Baltimore County, MD, 1730, 20-154)

In the Name of God Amen the twenty-third of January Anno Domini one
Thousand seven hundred and Thirty: Thirty one, I Edward Wilbourne of
Baltimore County in the province of Maryland being Sick and weak in body
but of shound and perfect Memory thanks be to Almight God for so great a
blessing do for the better Settlement of Temporal affairs when it may
please God to call me hence make and publish this my las will and
Testament in manner following Nigh.

Imprimis, I give unto my loving wife Elizabeth Wilbourne my dwelling
plantation with as much land as shall amount to Fifty Acres during her
natural life and after her docoase, I give the same to my daughter Ann
Wilbourne her her heirs and assigns forever.

Item: I give unto my son William Wilbourne the remaining part of my Land
him his heirs and assigns forever.

Item: My will is that the great Swamp which runs through my land be a
dovision between my Wife's part of the land and my son William's part.

Item: I give unto my son Thomas Wilbourne one year old Steer to him and
his heirs forever.

Item: My will is that my son William Wilbourne shall have all my Smiths
Tools provided he first pays my Executor the sum of two Thousand pounds
of Tobacco otherwise the said Tools to be praised with my personall
Estate.

Item: I give unto my loving wife Elizabeth Wilbourne a Third part of my
clear personall Estate after legacys and all other lawfull demands
against it are discharged.

Item: All the Rest and residue of my personall Estate I give to my three
children namely, Elizabeth Wood, William Wilbourne and Ann Wilbourne to
be equally divided amongst them. Share and Share alike.

Lastly, I confirm and appoint my loving wife Eliza Wilbourne my full and
whole Executer of this my last will and testament in witness whereof I
have hereunto set my hand and seal on day and year first written.

Signed sealed and published in presence of us whose names are
underwritten and enforce thereunto at his request.

Edwad Willbourne (Seal)

his
John X Coale

his
John X Daevley

Michl Webster

Notes on Edward Wilbourne
11:38 PM 12/15/98

Re: Edward Wilbourne/Elizabeth Mitchell

Posted by Carolyn Wellborn Haskins on December 04, 1998 at 02:19:02:

In Reply to: Re: Edward Wilbourne/Elizabeth Mitchell posted by Marvin Welborn on December 01, 1998 at 19:50:13:

Edward Wilbourn was in Chester Co., PA and had a land grant there. These records put him in Chester Co., PA for all the children to be born. All his records put him there until 1712 when a deed speaks of the "late Edward Wilbourn" I took this to mean deceased but the archivist said about 1/2 the time it just meant he moved on which is the case of our Edward Wilbourn, Blacksmith. In this months The Frontiersmen newsletter on the Wellborn family I have a 4 page worksheet on Edward Wilbourn with all his court records from 1699 on. Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

On September 8, 1731 in the Baltimore Co., MD probate of the estate papers of Edward Wilbourn his widow relinquished the administration of the estate to her SONS THOMAS WILBOURN AND THOMAS MITCHELL. She was a widow when Edward married her. The Mitchell records can be found with the Wilbourns in Baltimore Co., MD and on down.

Edward Wibourn was a thief and the county of Chester Co., PA made him wear a " Roman T" and repay double the cost of the 14 yards of material he stole and receive 10 lashes on his bare back. 1707 indictment of grand jury. This original record and others appear in the newsletter.

Edward was a blacksmith and that trade was an appreniced trade so we should be able to find the name of his father by finding the court record where his age and father are as all blacksmiths were recorded as being apprenticed to a blacksmith to learn the trade.

I have reason to believe The maiden name of Elizabeth Mitchell may have been DeMoss. We need to all check this family out.

The early Brooke family of Prince Georges Co. namely Thomas Brooke, Jr. and George Frazier fit into the Wilbourn family somehow too.

Edward Wilbourn lived in Birmingham and Concord townships in Chester Co., PA before moving to Deer Creek, MD. The very first record of Edward in MD is August 4, 1719. He was paid from the estate of George Wells for blacksmith work. There is no court proof of Edward Wilbourn ever having a 1680 landgrant in Baltimore Co., MD. The Patent PL #6 folder 276 Baltimore Co., MD now Harford Co., MD is where you will find the landgrant. Read it for yourself. It plainly states that he received on the "22 day of May 1722 " "one hundred acres of Land within our said Province by virtue of a Warrt." It was " given under our greater seal at
arms this tenth day of July Seventeen hundred and twenty five"

We need to all resort to the court records and stop repeating all the errors of the hearsay and past assumptions.

Carolyn Wellborn Haskins

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Re: Thomas Welbourne, Captain

Posted by Carolyn Wellborn Haskins on December 04, 1998 at 02:51:29:

In Reply to: Re: Thomas Welbourne, Captain posted by Carolyn Wellborn Haskins on September 25, 1998 at 12:43:47:

Captain Thomas Welburne, of Accomack Co., VA line is a different line from the Edward Wibourn line of Chester Co., PA/Baltimore Co., MD.
Captain Thomas is not the father of these Wellborns. As in my posting on the other forum, I will point out that the Accomack Co., VA Welburnes moved into NC via Northhampton Co., NC and Thomas Welbunre and his wife Margaret who were there in early 1750's.

Daniel III of Accomack Co., VA and William later move into Halifax Co., NC. The deed records state that this Thomas was a gentleman from Gloucester Co., VA.

The Edward Wilbourn line of MD moved into the Piedmont area of NC by 1754 when the first record there is my Edward Wellborn born circa 1727 already owns land and is a constable in the Orange Co., Court records. He later in 1772 has a Royal landgrant in SC and then by 1774 is into GA in what later became Wilkes Co., GA and dies in Greene Co., GA.

You will find the Edward Wilbourn family in Old Frederick Co., VA now Berkeley Co., WVA. and in Frederick Co., MD records in 1750's.

Carolyn Wellborn Haskins

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WELBORN_The Origin/Etymology

Posted by Carolyn Wellborn Haskins on December 04, 1998 at 22:32:13:

In Reply to: WELBORN_The Origin/Etymology posted by PHIL M WELBORN on November 26, 1998 at 14:31:33:

The English Version of the Montforts, The Wellesbournes, and the Hughenden Effigies. "They say that they are 16th century fakes and that the effigies at the Hughenden Church are crude in extreme. They stand in the east end of the Chapel. The stones are mounted upright against the wall and are probably original mediaeval toombstones defaced with the meaningless heraldry of the Wellesbourne family, and the recumbent figures are believed to have been placed in the church at the same time in an attempt to establish a pedigree for the "nouveau riche" family living in Brands House, which was at that time the Manor House of the parish. The Wellesbournes, one of whom married a Miss Mountford, claimed descent from Simon de Montfort, on the grounds that they came originally from Wellesbourne in Warwickshire, and that this manor was owned by the sixth son of Earl Simon.

Unfortunately for their claim, Earl Simon had five sons, not six, all of whom died without issue and one daughter who died in childbirth. The manor of Wellesbourne was owned by the Montforts de Beaudesert, who are no relation to Earl Simon.

An alternative claim is that Richard de Wellesbourne said to be an illegitimate son of Earl Simon (or that Earl Simon was Richard's illegimate son) was an ancestor of the wealthy Wellesbournes of Hughenden. Richard is said to have assumed his wife's Coat of Arms on returning from a crusade. This claim also will not stand examination.
Earl Simon's parentage is well established and quite regular. Earl Simon was a man of strict morals, most unlikely to have an illegitimate son. Heraldry is an exact science. A knight cannot change his arms as the whim takes him.

The third claim made by the Wellesbournes was that Richard was an illegitimate brother of Earl Simon. If so, the family kept their secret well for three centuries. The Wellesbourne claim is the only suggestion we have of the existence of Richard. The main charge on the arms of the effigies is of a griffin, or in some cases a lion, with a child in its claws. This device occurs in Italian, but not in English heraldry. It is thought that the Wellesbournes made their supposed ancestor Richard into the chief character of one of the popular novels at the time. In one of these, Sir Isumbras took his wife and three children on a crusade. At a swollen river Sir Isumbras swam across with on child, but while he was fetching the second a lion carried off the first. The knight continued with his planned crossing but a leopard took the second and a
unicorn the third. The knight and his lady

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Re: WELBORN_The Origin/Etymology

Posted by Carolyn Wellborn Haskins on December 09, 1998 at 06:59:56:

In Reply to: Re: WELBORN_The Origin/Etymology posted by Vikky Wilburn Anders on December 08, 1998 at 19:25:35:

Hello Vikki,
Please don't think the Welburnes in Virginia were the only Wilbourns in America in the 1600's. Boston, Mass is full of Welbourns by 1650. So is Hartford , Conn.

We have all gotten so blinded by the books of half-truths that we are not searching anymore but depend on the old stories to seek our lineage. I truly believe we should get beyond Accomack Co., VA and the surrounding area and research the records. Wonder how many of you have one record in your files on Thomas of Suffolk Co., MASS or Mercy or any of that family. Lots, more than in Accomack Co., VA Welbourns. They may have been here when the Mayflower arrived. All in Mass.

How many of you have searched the Deleware records. Captain Thomas Welburne of Accomack, William Welburne, and John Welburne, Jonathan Waterland (who was captain of the ship "Friendship" that Captain Thomas did business to England with) and Robert Beverly who later was one of the important men in VA history had a land grant in March 16, 1676/7 in Horre Kill District. 2531 acres that the chief surveyor changed the names on and put in his friends names on the survey. Good 'ole Cap't Thomas took him to court and won. Captain Thomas said in this court that he intended to bring "some families" in to settle the land. I refer you to "The Duke of York Record" an authorized transcript from Official Archives of the State of Delaware 1646 to 1679 printed by the General Assembly of the State of Delaware. He probably did transport the early Welburnes. A William Wilbourne owned 25 acres of land in New Norfolk in 1637. Robert Welbourn was transport by John Bayles in MD in 1662 Matthew Welbourne was transported by Charles Grimes in 1653. Hugh Welburne appears on the tax list with Thomas Wilburne in 1675 in Accomack Co., VA. A Thomas and John
Welbourne were transported by Capt Thomas Wilburne in Accomack Co., VA in 1678. We know he did the transporting as he received land on Fox Island in VA. BUT all this while Mass and Conn is full of Wilbourns that spell their name like Edward Wilbourn. Hmmm. Let's post their descendants. Anyone know who Stephen was or John or the rest of them.

Wilbourns had big families and in the Civil War lots of Welbourns in the Union Army.

Who had them??? Let give ourselves a new years project.

Carolyn Wellborn Haskins 2 SOUR S471
3 PAGE

and.....

Edward Wilbourn, Jr.
• Born: Abt 1660/1680, Maryland
• Marriage: Elizabeth _____ about 1700 in Chester Co., Pennsylvania
• Died: Jun 24, 1731, St. George Parish, Baltimore (now Harford) Co., Maryland about age 70
  General Notes:
Richard Sims:  In the 1711 deed, it refers to the late Edward Wilbourn:  bounded by land of Nathaniel Newlin, James Chipers and the late Edward Wilbourn.   This may refer to Edward having died, or having moved to another location. I have assumed it means having moved (to Baltimore Co., MD), and that Edward's father is unknown.

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  sbgone: 
Edward Wilbourn, Sr 1640-1710  Edward Wilbourn, Sr  Born in England  Lived in Chester County, Pa.  An Edward Wilbourn was referred to as the late in a 1711 deed.   ---  Children: Edward  Edward Wilbourn, Jr / Elizabeth 1660/1680 -  Edward Wilbourn, Jr  Born about 1660/1680 in Md or Delaware   Received a land grant in Chester County, Pa. in 1701.   Owned 94 acres of land in Pa. where he lived until 1712.   The town of Chester Co., Pa indicted him in 1707.   Lived in Birmingham and Concord Townships in Chester Co., Pa, later in Delaware County.   Moved to Deer Creek, Md., which was a post village in Harford County, Md.   A blacksmith. On Aug 4, 1719 he was paid from the estate of George Wells for blacksmith work in Md.   Later was in Baltimore County, Md where there are records in St. John's and St. George Parishes.   No court proof of him having a 1680 landgrant in Baltimore Co., Md. Patent PL #6 folder Baltimore Co., Md now Harford Co, Md is where you will find the landgrant. It states that he received on the 22 day of May 1722 one hundred acres of land within our said Province by virtue of a Warrt. given July 10 1725.   Died in Baltimore Co., Md   Check Martinsville, WVA Historical Society for land grants   Some of his line can be found in Lancaster County, PA in later 1700's   Answers to Edward Wilbourn's family lie in the counties of Berkeley County, W Va, Hampshire Co., W Va, Orange and Frederick Co., Md, Baltimore Co., Md and Chester Co., Pa, Horre Kill District Delaware, Sommerset and St. Marys Co., Md    
  Noted events in his life were:
• Alt. Birth, Abt 1660/1680, Delaware.
• Residence: Chester Co., Pennsylvania.
• Land Patent: 94 acres: Pennsylvania.
• Land Patent, 1701, Chester Co., Pennsylvania.
• Court, 1703, Chester Co., Pennsylvania. There being a bastard child brought from the house of John Martin of Concord, the Court having endeavored to find the reputed father thereof but cannot ordered that the said child be called John Thornly and that Edward Willburn keep said John three months and be paid six shillings per week out of the county stock.
• Court, May 30, 1704, Chester Co., Pennsylvania. We whose names are here subscribed being ordered by the last court to view and lay out a Road from Brandywine Creek ...(text omitted)....to Naaman's Creek Mill as far as it will fall in this county. Do certify that we did lay out the said Road on the fifth day of the 1. month 1704. Beginning at......then continuing in the old road across the land of the said Chalfant and Esward Wilburns then to a marked tree ....
• Petition, Mar 19, 1705/06, Chester Co., Pennsylvania. A petition was presented to Council March 19, 1705/6. Edward Wilburn was one of the signers. "The Humble petetion of the Inhabitants to the tonw and County of Chester and others, humbly showeth: That whereas, by ye Laws of this Government, ye sole power of laying out of the Queen's Road is lodged in the Governor and Council; and wheas the Town of Chester is daily improving, and In time may become a great place, and very adantageous to the Propriatour, but forasmuch as most of the People of that place conerned In the Improvement is must discouraged for want of a direct Road from thence to Phladelphia, wee, you Petitioners, whose names are hereunto subscribed, do beg the Governor and Councill that an ord'r may be granted to fitt and proper persons to lay out the Queen's Road on as direct a Line as can be from Darby, to answer the bridge on Chester Creek, and our petitioners in duty bound will every pray."
• Court: Indicted, 1707, Chester Co., Pennsylvania.
• Occupation: Blacksmith, 1707, Birmingham Twp., Chester Co., Pennsylvania.
• Deed, Sep 10, 1709, Chester Co., Pennsylvania. Deed. On 10 Sep 1709 James Chevers of Concord, yeoman, to Isaac Taylor of Thronbury, yeoman. James Chevers for L27 grants to Isaac Taylor his plantation, reputed to be in the manor of Rock Land but now annexed to Concord, bounded by the Birmingham line, land of Edward Wilburn & Magus Tate, containing 100 acres,.....
• Deed, Sep 10, 1711, Chester Co., Pennsylvania. Deed. On 10 Sep 1711 John Willis of Thornbury, yeoman, to Thomas Smith of county of Chester, fashonr. Whereas the original patent was greated to Francis Chads 16 Feb 1701 for 100 acres, lying in the manor of Rockland, joining the township of Concord, bounded by land of Nathaniel Newlin, James Chipers and the late Edward Wilbourn. Francis Chads by deed dated 19 Apr 1708 granted to John Willis.....
• Occupation: Blacksmith, Aug 4, 1719, Maryland. Aug 4 1719 he was paid from the estate of George Wells for blacksmith work
• Residence: Deer Creek, St. George Parish, Baltimore (now Harford) Co., Maryland.
• Land Patent: Grant of 100 acres, May 22, 1722, Baltimore (now Harford) Co., Maryland. No court proof of him having a 1680 landgrant in Baltimore Co., Md. Patent PL #6 folder Baltimore Co., Md now Harford Co, Md is where you will find the landgrant. It states that he received on the 22 day of May 1722 one hundred acres of land within our said Province by virtue of a Warrt. given July 10 1725.
• Will, Mar 3, 1729/30, Baltimore (now Harford) Co., Maryland. Colonial Will #20-154
• Probate: St. George Parish, Baltimore (now Harford) Co., Maryland. St George's Parish Register, Baltimore Maryland, Baltimore County Maryland, Maryland Probate Records, Frederick County Virginia, Probate Records, Maryland, Calendar of Wills, Volume 6, page 180.
• Probate: Frederick Co., Virginia. St George's Parish Register, Baltimore Maryland, Baltimore County Maryland, Maryland Probate Records, Frederick County Virginia, Probate Records, Maryland, Calendar of Wills, Volume 6, page 180.
• Probate, Sep 8, 1731, Baltimore (now Harford) Co., Maryland. The widow Elizabeth Wilbourn relinquished the administration in favor of her sons Thomas Wilbourn and Thomas Mitchell. 
• Alt. Death, Between 1709 and 1711, Chester Co., Pennsylvania.

Edward married Elizabeth _____ about 1700 in Chester Co., Pennsylvania. (Elizabeth _____ was born about 1680 in Harford Co., Maryland .)
  Noted events in their marriage were:
• Alt. Marriage, 1710, Maryland.

Sources

1 Carolyn Wellborn Haskins (GenForum).
2 Gene Welborn, Welborns and Related Families With Roots In North and South Carolina (1994, Greenwood South Carolina).
3 Larry D. Kingsley. Descendant of James Welborn & Mary Isabella Teague Welborn
4 Susan (http://wolves.dsc.k12.ar.us/cyberace/sbgone/gen/fam2/wilbour...).
5 Joe Welborn, Desc report of Edward WELBORN (c 1660 - 1731) compiled by Joe Welborn.
6 Edward Wilbourn indictment, 1707 Chester Co., Pennsylvania. Chester.S.S. - At a court of Quarter Sessions held at Chester for the aid County of Chester the 25 day of November Anno Dom 1707 - The Court being opened the constables was called appeared - The Grand Jury being called and qualified received their charge and went forth and returned with their indictments as followeth viz- Indictment of: The Grand Inquest for our Lady the Queen upon their paths Edwd Wilbourn.: and solemn affirmations do present that Edwd. Wilbourn late of Birmingham Township Chester County blacksmith the 1. day of October in the 6. year of our Reign of Queen Anne over England at the Township of Concord in the county of Chester aforesaid nine yards of lining cloth of the value of 40 shillings of the goods and chattels of John Hannum Yeoman then and there being found then and there did feloniously take steal and carry away against the peace of said Lady the Queen the crown and dignity and also against the form of an act of assembly of this Province in that case made and provided - Indorsed the 27 of the 9. month 1707 - We the Grand Jury find this bill to be a true bill - Michll Blunston foreman - Edward Wilbourn being called to the bar pleads guilty - the court gives Judgment that the said Edward shall make double satisfaction and be whipt with ten lashes on his bare back and wear a Roman T according to law & pay the costs.
7 Wendy Roberts-Craft, WorldConnect: Some Noteworthy Southern Genealogies
8 Ann Beason Gahan.

....and then to include This Conversation....

From: WELBORN Marvin
Date: January 5, 2009 6:14:49 PM EST
To:
Cc: WELBORN Marvin
Subject: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD

...a conversation...

Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD
GordonBonnet29   Posted: 6 Jul 2007 7:29AM

Surnames: Welborn, Wilbourne, Stookes
Hi...

I just bumped into a mysterious bit of information about my ancestor, Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of Maryland, who m. Elizabeth ___. The site states that Edward was born in England in 1682, his wife was Elizabeth Stookes, and that he was the son of Edward Welborn and Alse ___ who lived in Chester Co, PA (where the elder Edward allegedly died in 1701).

Does anyone know if this information has any documentation at all? I've never seen any hard evidence of this, but if it's correct, it adds another generation to what I have and gets me back to England.

Can anyone help?

cheers,

Gordon Bonnet
Trumansburg NY

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD
tinkwelborn1   Posted: 3 Jan 2009 9:46PM

Surnames:
It would get All of Us descended from Edward Wilbourne back to England.

I've seen similar info, but I haven't seen any verifiable documentation -- only citations to other family trees. Until we have some factual stuff, we should take this as clues.

Marvin Loyd Welborn (purportedly 7th great-grandchild of Mr. Wilbourne).

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD
Chemteach60    Posted: 5 Jan 2009 4:30PM

Surnames:
Edward Wilbourn born c 1655 died between 24 June 1730 and 8 September 1731 in St. George Parish, Baltimore County, Maryland.
He signed his Will on 24 January 1729 and Bond was posted for settlement Edward Wilbourn Will--signed 24 June 1730. Names wife, Elizabeth. The administrated bond was posted 8 September 1731 by Thomas Wilbourne with Thomas Mitchell. The widow, Elizabeth having given administration in favor of her son Thomas Mitchell. The deceased named: Thomas, William, Anne and Elizabeth.n 8 September 1731.
Edward married Elizabeth [Mitchell]--her maiden name may have been DeMoss...she had son, Thomas Mitchell when she married Edward. The four children of Edward are named above.
William was born 21 January 1705 and married Ann Crabtree. I descend from their son, William who married Hepzabeth Stearns. This William was born in St. George Parish, Baltimore County, Maryland and died 24 august 1791 in wilkes County, Georgia. He sojourned for a period of time in North Carolina and his son, General James Wellborn, remained in North Carolina and is buried in wilkes County, near the town of Wilkesboro on the "home plantation property"...his gravesite and family cemetery destroyed by development....James's wife, Rebecca Montgomery Wellborn is buried in Marshall County, Mississippi.

Hope this helps clarify information on this family.
The information you stated does not appear to agree with my documented evidence.

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD
GordonBonnet29   Posted: 5 Jan 2009 4:46PM

Surnames: Wilbourne, Welborn, Mitchell, Teague
I agree that this information doesn't jibe with what I found; in the intervening years I've found nothing that supports what was on that website, so I suspect it was incorrect. I still don't know what its source was.

What evidence do you have that suggests that Elizabeth was a DeMoss?

While I'm on the subject of Elizabeth, I have a question (actually a series of questions) about her. You seem to have researched the family extensively, so I'm curious as to what you'll think.

The usual way of assembling Edward Wilbourne's family is that he lived in Chester Co., PA until some time after 1707, the year in which he is on record as having gotten in trouble with the law in Chester Co; after that he came to Harford (then Baltimore County, bought some land, had a prosperous blacksmith business and died there in 1731. As you state, he married Elizabeth ___, widow of a Mitchell; she'd had one known child, Thomas Mitchell, by her first husband. (This relationship is proven by a document in which the administration of the estate is relinquished by Elizabeth to "her sons Thomas Welborn and Thomas Mitchell;" and this Thomas Mitchell is usually identified as the Thomas Mitchell who married Ann Teague, about whom more below.)

The problem is, the dates don't add up; or else I'm not seeing something clearly here. The Thomas Mitchell who m. Ann Teague, who is supposedly Elizabeth's son, was in Harford County by 1700 (by his own statement); this is confirmed by the fact that he's on the tax lists for Spesutia Hundred in 1703. He is on record as having stated his age in 1730 (he said he was 46), allowing us to calculate his birth year as 1684. Therefore, in 1700, the year he came to Harford Co., he was 16 years old and presumably was accompanied by his parents (or his mother, if she was already a widow).

Now, here's the rub. Elizabeth and Thomas Wilbourne, eldest children of Edward, were born ca. 1700 and ca. 1702, respectively. (These are approximate dates but can't be off by much, as the two were _documented_ as married in 1721 and 1723, respectively.) This requires Elizabeth to be in two places at once -- in Chester County PA, where Edward was still living at the time, and in Harford County with her only son by her first marriage, Thomas Mitchell.

You might argue that Thomas, being at that point an older teenager, would have been capable of living on his own, or was living with relatives, and that his mother could well have been back in Chester County with her second husband. However, that's not the only problem. Thomas Mitchell was born in 1684. This means that Elizabeth was born in 1664 at the latest. Edward Wilbourne's youngest child, William, has a documented birthdate of 1712. At that point, Elizabeth, Thomas Mitchell's mother, would have been _at the youngest_ 48 years old! It's not impossible, but it certainly would be unusual.

All of this is leading me to believe that there were multiple marriages here, but whatever I do, I can't seem to make the pieces fit. Here's what we know:

1) Thomas Mitchell (b. 1684) and Thomas Wilbourne (b. 1702) were half-brothers, both children of Elizabeth (__) (Mitchell) Wilbourne. Elizabeth was still alive in 1731 when she relinquished administration of her husband's estate to these two sons.

2) Edward Wilbourne is documented as living in Chester County until 1707. His first mention in Harford County is in 1719.

3) Thomas Mitchell made a statement of his age and the number of years he'd lived in Harford County. His birth year (1684) is calculated from that statement, and if it's off, it's only by a year or two. His year of moving to Maryland, from that document, is 1700, and this is substantiated by his appearance on the Spesutia Hundred tax lists in 1703.

4) There is a large gap between the births of Edward Wilbourne's two oldest children (Elizabeth (1700) and Thomas (1702)) and his two youngest (Ann (1711) and William (1712)). This may not mean anything, but makes me suspicious of a second marriage. But if so, how could Thomas' mother Elizabeth still be alive in 1731? Divorce was rare enough in those days that it surely would have shown up in the records.

The only other possibilities I can think of is that (1) the Thomas Mitchell who received administration from Elizabeth Wilbourne wasn't the same Thomas b. ca. 1684. But I don't really see any other Thomas in Harford County that it could have been! Or (2) the Edward Wilbourne in Chester County isn't the same man as the Edward Wilbourne who settled in Harford County (maybe they were father/son?).

Can you help with this confusion? I suspect there's something I'm not seeing clearly here, and maybe other eyes will be able to discern what's going on.

cheers,

Gordon Bonnet
Trumansburg NY

Best regards,

Marvin Loyd Welborn

Re: Edward Welborn/Wilbourne of MD

tinkwelborn1 — 2009-01-04 02:46:01Z

It would get All of Us descended from Edward Wilbourne back to England.

I've seen similar info, but I haven't seen any verifiable documentation -- only citations to other family trees. Until we have some factual stuff, we should take this as clues.

Marvin Loyd Welborn (purportedly 7th great-grandchild of Mr. Wilbourne).

Re: Welborn Marriages, Census Indexes , Rabun County, Ga.

sean_colette — 2009-05-27 21:36:53Z

I have an Elisha Welborn married to Sarah Crawford, son Wiley Welborn who married Nancy Hall. Wiley died in the civil war abt. 1865. Wiley and Nancy had a daughter, Calsadonia Josephine who married James Wesley Thompson, my Great Great Grandparents.

If any of you could share information that would help me fill out this branch of the tree I would appreciated it.

African American Welborns in Trinity (Randolph County) NC

MariaKeyser — 2008-02-27 17:33:07Z

Hello,

Rev. Anthony Welborn (abt 1840, died 1913), my great-great grandfather, married to Annie G (abt 1840, d. 1923) and had 16 children. I have quite a bit of information on Anthony and two of the children (Scott and Mary). I'm trying to trace the remaining 14 and also discover Annie's (Ann, Anna) parents.

If you have any information/advice/guidance, please e-mail me at mariak4469@aol.com.

Thanks,
Maria