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Re: Thomas Woolner/Woolner family

pwoolner50071 — 2009-11-07 15:24:05Z

Hi Danielle. Have been trying to connect with you over the past couple of years. Interested in your family info.
Please contact me at pwoolner5007@rogers.com
Paul

Re: Chester Woolner, England

ljkim1 — 2009-03-31 01:46:18Z

I found Richard C. Woolner listed in the 1851 British census, living in Islington (Middlesex/London) with his son, Richard.
The listing is as follows:
Richard C. Woolner head wid 60 Fundholder Suffolk Dunwich
Richard Woolner son 15 Clerk in corn market Mids Islington.

Richard C. then was born c. 1791 in Dunwich, the same town in Suffolk County from which the PEI Woolners were descended.
Richard's business partner in London, from at least 1822 to 1850, was James Woolner, also born in Dunwich, c. 1784 or 86. I've been assuming James was a brother. Another brother would have been John's father (name unknown, but perhaps James, since John's one son was named James)- if my grandmother's description of John as cousin of George A. & Chester was correct. It's certainly possible that those three were all sons of the Dunwich James of the PEI Woolner line. If not sons they were probably closely related.
The 1851 census also lists Richard C.'s sons, Chester and George A., both as scholars in a school on the Isle of Jersey, George age 11, Chester age 7, and both listed as having been born in London. By the Chicago census in 1860, George & Chester are living with their cousin John and his family. By 1870, Chester (still unmarried) is living with George and his wife Isabella (my great grandparents), three children (incl. my grandmother Clara) and Isabella's mother, two sisters and a brother (O'Briens & Spains, all born in Ireland).

With Richard C.'s marriage to Eliz. Miles in 1842, it would appear that George & Richard were half-brothers to Chester. The 1851 census then lists Richard C. as a widower. I found a death record for Richard C. Woolner for June 1853, in Camberwell (part of London).

Interestingly I also found a Boston immigration record for 20 June 1857 which lists Mrs. Woolner 32, Miss Woolner 20, Miss Woolner 17, Sarah Woolner 9, Chester Woolner 13 & James Woolner 11. Except for the Chester, the others all match John's family (with second wife). Chester may have come with them from Nova Scotia (origin of that ship) headed for Chicago. John had connections in NS, PEI and NB.
I hope this adds a little bit to the ongoing thread.

Jim Kimball

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2009-03-28 20:09:08Z

Carole:

Long time no talk! I was rereading some of these posts and your comment about John being buried with an Elizabeth Miles and others got me wondering who the "others" are? Would you mind letting me know? Also - what cemetary are they located at?

Thanks!
Cindy

Marriage in CA 1863 - Fred. WOOLNER and Miss Kate WOLF

danderup — 2008-11-20 20:25:10Z

Am not related. May be of interest to someone who is. I have no further info but additional old newspaper extracts have been posted by transcriber.

Vern D
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Transcribed by Dee Sardoc
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Stockton Daily Independent
Stockton, San Joaquin Co., CA
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>>TUESDAY, 1 SEPT 1863<<

MARRIED - August 30th, by Rev. C.R. HENDRICKSON; Fred. WOOLNER and Miss Kate WOLF, all of this city.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

Carole_Moschella — 2008-05-03 23:43:16Z

sorry, they were supposed to go to hank. But, have you found anything out about the previous generation (in England). Thanks.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2008-05-03 21:10:58Z

Hi Carole,

You have sent me the photos of the family previously. They are great - Thanks!

Re: Chester Woolner, England

Carole_Moschella — 2008-04-17 14:53:10Z

would love to send you the pictures I have of Chester, Mae, Rachel, John F. and other brother. Also, have you located parents of Chester?

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2008-03-06 18:14:26Z

Chester was my great, great grandfather as well. I don't have any information on your John Woolner for the tree. Do you have anything you can share with us, kids, grandkids, etc?

Re: Issac Woolner - Suffolk 1792

pamames1 — 2008-02-29 16:08:45Z

I am a descendant of William Woolner - he is my 4th great grandfather. I am also searching for his parents and wondering if you have any information to share about them or his family. I have some information for 8 children of William & Phyllis Gray. I am traveling to Suffolk in June to visit the records office there.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

Carole_Moschella — 2008-02-21 20:35:47Z

I have pictures of Chester, Rachel and their 4 children, Rachel is holding Chester, Jr.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

Hankrearden42 — 2007-11-09 01:40:17Z

Chester Woolner was my great great grandfather. He and Rachel moved to Chicago, IL. They had John Foster Woolner, 23 Jun 1876 in Chicago. John F Woolner moved to Antioch, IL where he married Nellie C Paddock.

origins of the Woolner name

woolner3006 — 2007-03-18 17:55:47Z

Origins and Meaning of the Family Name Woolner

Historical Overview

Beginning in about the sixth century A.D., a group of Germanic tribes called the Saxons began to migrate from the Jutland area, primarily to the area of England now known as East Anglia. For almost two hundred years succesive groups arrived, conquered or otherwise displaced local peoples, and then took up farming and raising of cattle for subsistence. In the late seventh century they were joined by related peoples called the Angles and the Jutes. It is from the name Angles that England derived its name. These Germanic tribes intermingled and became the dominant culture of England, and the nobility. Over the next two hundred years they consolidated their dominant position. These Anglo-Saxon or Saxon peoples were the rulers of England, parts of Scotland and Ireland and most of Wales.

Then in 1066 the Normans, led by William (in Norman French, Guillaume), the Duke of Normandy, invaded England. William laid claim to the throne of England, and after defeating the Saxon King Harold at the Battle of Hastings, quickly overcame all resistance. On Christmas day in 1066 he was crowned King of England. After his coronation he and his Norman supporters set about elminating all resistance and setting up his government of his new kingdom. To assit in this task, in 1086 he commissioned the Domesday Book (sometime called the Doomsday Book) to keep track of all the lands and properties, titles of local rulers and all people and entities that owed allegience and taxes to the crown.

The Name Woolner

About 1088 the name "Vlnoth" or possibly "Ulnoth" was recorded in the Domesday Book. This is probably the earliest record of the name that would evolve to become Woolner. Vlnoth is a variation of the name Wolfnoth or Wolfnod, which means 'Wolf Daring' or 'Wolf Courage.' The connection of "Vl" or "Ul" and Wolf to the word wolf is easy to see. The term 'nod' is from Old Norse and means courage or worthy of note. By 1221 in Suffolk the name had evolved to "Wulnoth." Suffolk is the birth place of my earliest known Woolner relative, James Woolner, born about 1753. Over the next four hundred years or so, Wulnoth evolved to Woolnough. The pronounciation also changed, with the name taking on a terminal "er" sound. Sometime in the late seventeenth or early eighteenth century the name began to be spelled more phonetically, as Woolner. Genealogists who have the name Woolnough have sserted to me (via email) that the reason for the change is because of the illiteracy of that particular branch of the family, rather than a desire to make it more phonetic.

Woolner Name Variations

There are some related names, including Woolnoth, Wolfner, Wolnald, Wulnoughe, Wolnowe. Another possible variation is Wolfwinhawe. Although Wolfwinhawe may be a variation, I think it more likely to have developed independently. It means 'place of the wolf's friend" from the word 'win' which means friend and 'hawe' which means settlement defended by a wooden palisade.

Lastly, there are a group of folks with the Woolner name in Canada who are unrelated to the English Woolners. These folks emmigrated from the Volga region of Russia; they were part of a group of people known as the "Volga Germans." They are descended from Germans who settled the Volga valley area during the rule, and at the invitation of, Catherine the Great, Czarina of all the Russias. This is a fascinating story, and perhapsthey are very distantly (meaning before 1066)related to the English Woolners.

Whatever the origins and meaning, it is fascinating to trace the migration and distribution of Woolnough/Woolner families throughout the world - England, Canada, the U.S., Africa, Australia.

Please contact me

20_bandh — 2006-02-24 18:42:16Z

Hi Suzanna, please contact me. WOOLNER@GMX.NET Cheers, Dave

Re: Chester Woolner, England

20_bandh — 2006-02-24 18:42:16Z

Hello, i can see that there was a Chester Woolner born in St Lukes 1843. In 1845 a Frederick Allum Woolner and in 1847 a Harriett Allum Woolner were born, both in St Lukes. Were they all siblings ? Was Allum the mothers maiden name ? Good Luck. David Woolner

Re: ESSEX BRANCH

belverede — 2006-02-11 16:01:38Z

I have started again, I have a new e-mail address should any body be able to help

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2006-02-02 01:07:09Z

cindywoolner@hotmail.com

Have you done much research into the Martinoff side?

Re: Chester Woolner, England

2006-02-02 01:04:49Z

I live in L.A.,CA
what's you private email?
:)
Frank

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2006-02-02 00:52:48Z

Frank,

Wow - what a small world!! Where do you live? Would love to chat with you more if you're interested...

Cindy

Re: Chester Woolner, England

2006-02-01 08:17:21Z

Hi Cindy,
How are you related to Elke and Hilmar,
Frank

Maria Jacobs Woolner Biography

2005-12-04 04:35:22Z

Langdon ND Centennial Edition 1888-1988

MARIA JACOBS WOOLNER Bio - pg 485

Maria Jacobs was born in London in 1831, received a good education according to the standards of that day and obtained work as a maid-in-waiting to Lady Adelia, whose husband was in the Army.

In 1859, while on the island of Malta, Maria married Daniel Woolner, one of the soldiers of the regiment. After a few years in the West Indies and other countries, Daniel came to the United States as a soldier on the western frontier. Maria joined him in 1870 while he was on duty guarding the boundary line between the United States and Canada. His regiment was on guard for construction of the railroad fra Duluth to Fargo and on to Jamestown and Bismarck.

While in Garrison, her hens provided the troops with eggs. When they were on the march the hens rode in coops in an old buckboard which she drove herself. She delivered many babies when doctors were not available.

Daniel was discharged fra the Army in 1875 at Fort pembina. He became a minister and began a number of churches throughout the rapidly growing population in Dakota Territory.

All six children died either at birth or in early childhood. In 1894 Daniel died and Maria moved to Langdon to keep house for her husband's nephew, James Woolner. She was a charter member of the Woman's Club and active in the Presbyterian Church. She taught sewing to children, particularily the making of quilts, and won prizes for her own stitching at both state and county fairs. Books in homes of older families are inscribed to various family members in the spidery writing of "Auntie Woolner." Maria passed away 22 Oct 1914.

James Woolner Biography

2005-12-04 04:23:45Z

Langdon ND Centennial Edition 1888-1988

JAMES WOOLNER Bio - pg 485

James and Lucy Woolner came fra England in 1900 after their marriage. James John Whybro Woolner was born 21 June 1865 at Norfolk and Lucy Ann Smith was born 14 August 1870 at Coventry.

Jim became editor of the Cavalier County Courier-Democrat published by the late A. I. Koehmstedt. After Mark I. Forkner and B.E. Groom bought the Courier-Democrat in 1923 and merged it with their Cavalier County Republican, Jim worked in the Republican shop and wrote the "25 Years Ago" column for the Republican until he died 30 January 1939. Lucy maintained the family home and continued to be active in the Presbyterian Church until failing health forced her to move in 1945 to the Borusky Hospital. She passed away 16 April 1951.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

2005-06-28 03:28:13Z

Re: Chester Woolner, England

2006-02-02 00:50:03Z

Hilmar is my Grand Father out of his first marriage.
Best Wishes,
:)
Frank Martinoff

Woolner family of Liverpool and Great Yarmouth and Bradford

2005-03-09 11:53:43Z

I have traced my GF (William James Woolner b1905 who lived in Bradford Yorkshire) back through a few generations in Liverpool, Lancashire. James Woolner (1816) came from Great Yarmouth to Liverpool. He married Ann Willson (yes 2 l's). His father was James (1788)and his father was Edward (1757) both also of Great Yarmouth. I am unable to get back any further. Anyone have any information which may be of use to me? Regards Barry

Re: Thomas Woolner/Woolner family

2004-10-22 21:24:11Z

Xan the best person to ask is Mick Woolner he is on the message board he is in australia. He knows a lot about Woolners. If you are decended from Hugh woolner then we have a common ancestor.

Maggie

Re: Thomas Woolner/Woolner family

2004-10-21 19:09:37Z

hi zoe mymum is called ellen kate and my dad was called george. is your mum called tracy if so we are related

Re: Thomas Woolner/Woolner family

2004-07-30 22:50:52Z

Hello,
My name is Danielle Woolner I live in Lansing Mi. I am 29 years old. My fathers name was Daniel Wooler with his brorter Dave and sister Debbie Woolner. My father has passed. How ever I may be able to help with some information. My grandparents are alive in ther late 80's. They have a full family tree at there house that dates date to the 1700's. They may not be the same Woolners but they are of english and freach desent and more I just can't remeber. Please let me know if you want me to check into it. Danielle

king family history

2004-04-19 19:16:00Z

looking for information on alfred king b.1863 ipswich and david king born 1861 children of aaron and matha

Woolner of Suffolk and Co. Durham

2004-02-18 15:34:47Z

Am trying to find out ancestry of James Woolner.
He was born at Darsham, Suffolk, according to census records. In 1881 he was aged 30 and a brewery labourer in Halesworth and married to Emma aged 28 and born London.
By 1901, he and Emma were living in Jarrow, co. Durham.
1901 also shows them as the parents of Edith.
However Edith had been born Edith Thompson. Her parents were also living in Halesworth in 1881 and her father John was also a brewery labourer. Edith was born in Battersea London in 1887.
The 1901 census also shows a John Sadd, aged 33, half brother born Yoxford, living in Jarrow with the Woolners.

Re: Thomas Woolner/Woolner family

2003-12-26 19:21:16Z

hi my names zoe scriven great grand daughter or ellen kate woolner wife of george woolner died in 1955 (decendant of hugh woolner)

Re: Are we related

2003-12-26 18:48:53Z

hi great news i'm a desendant from a george woolner who married ellen kate in 1945 george is a great great great ect from hugh woolner.

Michigan Ancestry

PaulWoolner — 2004-02-07 19:28:58Z

My Grandfather was Joseph. My GGFather was Isaac. They lived and died near Ubly Michigan. I have photos of their Grave sites. Do you think you are related to these fellas? Isaac was born in 1854 died in 1919.

Re: ESSEX BRANCH

@@sdwoolner@hotmail.com — 2004-12-17 08:57:35Z

Hi all I'm back and trying to pick up again.

Re: Michigan Ancestry

PaulWoolner66 — 2003-10-04 21:13:15Z

Paul, I am assembling all the information I can gather, and we
are distant half cousins, that is to say, we have the same
gggrandfather Isaac. Your family descended from his first
marriage, while mine descends from his second. please
contact me directly.
Thanks, Paul, Ottawa

Re: Issac Woolner - Suffolk 1792

PaulWoolner66 — 2003-10-04 20:48:06Z

Sarah, please contact me directly at pwoolner5007@rogers.com

I have the info you are looking for
Paul

Re: Issac Woolner - Suffolk 1792

PaulWoolner66 — 2003-10-04 20:48:06Z

Sorry, previous message should have been to Marie, not
Sarah.
paul

Woolners in England

mikewoolner — 2006-01-19 06:28:34Z

I am seeking any information on Thomas Woolner (my ggFather) who married Ann Hyland at St Pancras Church, London in August 1850.
Any info on his parents, birth or children??

Thomas Woolner

mikewoolner — 2006-01-19 06:28:34Z

The Thomas Woolner in my message is not the fairly famous Thomas Woolner (who was a sculptor with the pre-raphaelite school in England - he was the father of Hugh Woolner on the Titanic) His dates were a bit earlier than my ggfather Thomas.
I'm having great trouble finding information about my ggfather Thomas - I know his father was James, but I don't know when or where he was born or any sisters or brothers.
As I am chasing up information on as many Woolners (or Woolnoughs)as I can, so that I hopefully can make some connections, I would be grateful for anything you may have on the Woolner line.

Thomas Woolner

mikewoolner — 2006-01-19 06:28:34Z

Sorry, wrong heading on the earlier version of this!!

The Thomas Woolner in my message is not the fairly famous Thomas Woolner (who was a sculptor with the pre-raphaelite school in England - he was the father of Hugh Woolner on the Titanic) His dates were a bit earlier than my ggfather Thomas.
I'm having great trouble finding information about my ggfather Thomas - I know his father was James, but I don't know when or where he was born or any sisters or brothers.
As I am chasing up information on as many Woolners (or Woolnoughs)as I can, so that I hopefully can make some connections, I would be grateful for anything you may have on the Woolner line.

Re: Are we related

mikewoolner — 2006-01-19 06:28:34Z

Possible distant connection. Hugh Woolner was a grandson of my great great great uncle. I have some information on him (eg he died aged 58 of pneumonia in Budapest 13 Feb 1925, he was the son of the fairly famous sculptor Thomas Woolner - I believe he had one borother and four sisters)
You do not say how he was related to your GF - I would be interested to know.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

Carole_Moschella — 2005-09-22 17:59:25Z

My ancestor was John Woolner, mentioned in your message. He is buried with (among others), Elizabeth Woolner, d. 1862. Is she your relative? I will send any info I have via mail, I have several packets ready for several people, but need yours and Cynthia's mailing address. I have more info on Chester and Rachel McKenzie Woolner than my own line. Thanks for the info.

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2005-09-22 22:13:40Z

David,
I've since found out that Chester's wife's name was Elizabeth Miles through the UK site genesreunited.com. I'm not sure if Frederick and Harriet are siblings of Chester, but can research it.

Thanks for the info!
Cindy

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2005-09-22 22:09:05Z

Or Elizabeth could have been Chester's sister. I just looked through my notes and forgot he had a sister by the name of Elizabeth as well, especially with that death in the 1860's.

Cindy

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2005-09-22 22:06:27Z

Carole,
Elizabeth is more than likely Chester's mother, whom I've found out to be Elizabeth Miles. Please email me at cindywoolner@hotmail.com and I will give you my mailing address that way. I would love to have all the info you have on Chester and Rachel that you may have - they are my Great, Great grandparents. It's thought that John is Chester's brother, correct?
How exciting!!!

Thank you so very much,
Cindy Woolner

Re: Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2006-02-01 20:09:02Z

Frank,

Hilmar and Elke are my grandparents on my mothers side, both deceased. How do you know about them??
Do you know any more about their history?

Cindy

Re: Thomas Woolner/Woolner family

cindywoolner — 2005-06-19 14:38:42Z

Danielle,

Hey - I live in Grand Rapids. You are the first "Woolner" I've seen that lives so close (outside of immediate family)!
I'm not sure that we are related, but I would love to see the family tree your family has prepared.
You can contact me at cindywoolner@hotmail.com. Thanks!

Cindy

Chester Woolner, England

cindywoolner — 2005-06-18 12:30:43Z

Hello,

I'm looking for information on Chester Woolner, head of household, born 1844 in England. Mother and Father are both of England. Wife is Rachel from PEI, born 1850, father from England. Children: Harry, born June 1880 in Illinois, Mary M born July 1881.

Also found: Chester Woolner b 5 April 1843, christened 31 Jan 1844 in Shoreditch London, England. I'm assuming these are the same person "Chester".
Chester's father was Richard Chester; mother Elizabeth, possbily married in Sept 1842 in Islington, Middlesex London England (familysearch.org).

I'm stuck on Richard Chester. I found a Chester Woolner b. 1818, but after further research I think this is a Robert Chester, with parents of Robert Forster and Sarah Sally Kemp. This Robert Chester was married to Margaret MacNeill and had a James Chester, but he was born in PEI, not England as all other information on my Chester points to.

I think he (and family?) immigrated to Prince Edward Island sometime before 1880, married and then moved to Illinois.

Can anyone point me towards Richard Chester?

Thanks! Cindy Woolner

Re: Michigan Ancestry

cindywoolner — 2005-03-22 03:22:49Z

Paul,

Joseph and/or Isaac do not sound familiar to me. My grandfather's name was Leslie, Grandmothers name was Bessie (I think). Together they had 5 children: unknown baby that passed away within a few days, Leslie (died very young), Elenor , Robert (my father) and Duane.
I'm very early in the research process. I have no idea of any lineage beyond what I stated above. The only living relative left is my Uncle Duane, whom currently in Bloomingdale, MI. My grandparents got divorced mid-60's and grandmother moved to Chicago and passed away around 1977?

Thanks for your reply!
Cindy

Woolner, Robert (F), Leslie (G/F), Michigan

cindywoolner — 2005-03-20 18:11:20Z

I am in the early stages of family history searching. My father, Robert and grandfather, Leslie were born and grew up in/around Lawrence MI (Van Buren County). My grandparents had 5 children total between 1928 and 1945. I'm looking for any information regarding the rest of the children (Duane, Leslie A., Elenor... not sure of everyone's name), where my great grandparents were from and if this Woolner family immigrated to the US from Europe.
Any sort of information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Re: woolner

woolner3006 — 2003-12-27 01:32:24Z

I an seeking additional information on, and possibly parents, grandparents, etc., for James Woolner, born about 1758 in Dunwich, Suffolk, England. He married Mary Forster about 1783. They had a son Rober Forster Woolner, b. 1878, Dunwich, and emigrated to Prince Edward Island, Canada. Robert married Sarah (Sally) Kemp 1818 in Darsham, Suffolk. They had a son Benjamin Forster Woolner, b. 1830 in Suffolk. Benjamin married Flora MacNeill 1869 in P.E.I., and they moved to the Suisun Valley in California. James is my third great-grandfather. There are some rather cryptic references in some of my Woolner granparents books about their being a relationship between Robet Forster Woolner of Suffolk and Thomas Woolner b. 1825, the sculptor. Any information appreciated.

Marshall