Zeleznik - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Looking for grandfather

hill6458 — 2009-11-10 00:08:54Z

My grandfather Louis Zeleznik came over from Yugoslavia. I can't fing him anywhere before Utah. Unsure of what to do next. I'm banging my head against the wall. If anyone has any info that would be great. Thanks!

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

bradgabrick — 2009-10-31 05:35:21Z

Greetings from Minnesota,my name is Brad. I do have a "Zalaznik" connection in my family tree. And here is this portion of it,and was wondering if the names look familiar:
Ray Zalaznik (of Fortuna,Ca.) w:Helen - born 1918
Lee Zalaznik - 1949 - Livermore,Ca.
William Zalaznik - 1953 - Denver,Co.
Ray had married into the family. Brad Gabrick

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

jswiens1 — 2008-02-20 20:11:50Z

Hope this reply gets to you as it is 6 years later. My great, great grandfather was August(ine) Zeleznicky, immigrated from Russia/Poland to the NY & CT area in about 1893. His son from his first marriage was Michael, who changed his last name to Ertman. Michael was my great grandfather. Michael served as a sharpshooter in the 8th Battallion in the Spanish-American war, later was a customs deputy for NY harbor, later moved out to California (early 1900's, San Francisco area). Michael's wife's name was Patricia Louise Curtis (Korte) and his sons were Fred H, Henry, George and Wilbur. Fred H. was my grandfather, my father's father. Michael died in 1932 in a freak accident while on vacation - fell into a ship's hold. I am told that Augustine Z re-married and his 2nd wife's name was Pauline. Their children were Henry (1st marriage, I think), Mary (1st marriage I think - stayed in Russia), Felix (married Helen Mirasewki), Pauline (married Dan Kudlick) and Helen (married Henry John Curtis-Korte). Could we be long lost cousins?! You can reach me as jswiens@comcast.net.

Susan Ertman Wiens, San Jose, CA

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

CarolMissry — 2007-08-21 15:55:07Z

My married name is Carol Rosenthal....I am interested in finding out about my heritage....
Unfortunately, I only know limited info.

My father, Arthur Rosenthal, was born in Williamsberg,NY.
His brothers, Jonas, Irving and Harry - Heshy Rosenthal.
His sisters are Mary - Rosenthal- Speigal, Margie Rosenthal
His mother was Fanny and I think came from Vienna, Austria before WWII and his father came from Russia or Poland ...I think...and his name might be Samuel.
If you have any info ...please keep in touch

Re: John Zeleznikar, Kenik

ZBeca — 2006-11-13 15:35:34Z

Cheryl

Slovenia's phone site is listing Z^ELEZNIKAR and KENIK.
http://tis.telekom.si
28 ZELEZNIKARs came thru Ellis Island. www.ellisislandrecords.org
Might this Johann that arrived in 1905 at age 17 be your ancestor?

Re: Ziga

ZBeca — 2006-11-13 15:35:34Z

Elisha

A map of Austria-Hungary up to 1918
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/authung.htm
33 ZIGAs came thru Ellis Island. www.ellisislandrecords.org
You will need to locate a precise place of birth in order to proceed with the research.
The Slovak Republic's phone book is listing ZIGA www.zoznamst.sk
In 1990 census of names there were 4 ZIGAs in Poland. www.herby.com.pl/herby in Polish and only distribution
The surname can also be found in Croatia's phone book.
Do post on all the boards that apply to your surnames of research.

Michael Zalaznik, Zalaznik/Rutar

MarthaGates51 — 2006-10-02 21:33:16Z

Michael, Do you have a connection between the families Zalaznik and the Rutars. I found you had 4 Rutars in your family list...how is Justina Rutar related to you? I'm researching her family.
Martha

Mary Zelenik and Fred Eckerfield, 1924, Cleveland, Ohio

marys1015 — 2006-04-06 23:52:03Z

The following information was included on a copy of a marriage license application for a member of my family. Passing this on in hopes it will help someone on this board. I'm not related to this family.
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Wilhelmina Eckerfield, Berea Road, Cleveland, Ohio, daughter of Fred Eckerfield and his wife Mary ZELENIK, and

Charles Pegler, Clark Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio, son of John Pegler and Alice Lazaro,

applied for a marriage licence Aug. 13, 1924 in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. The marriage was to be solemnized by Rev. Trout, Willard Avenue, Cleveland.

Demmie Zelnick

2005-09-22 06:41:23Z

Not sure exactly how her name was spelled. She was born around 1906. She married Roy Clifford Stewart about 1930. they divorced 1934. She went to california. looking for information. esp relating to the child name Outhie. May have been called Mary. I was told her family owned a car lot in Newport AR in the 20's. Please email me with anything.

Re: Ziga

2005-08-10 04:36:32Z

Hello

I can probably help you a little. There are many Zigas in the states especially in Chicago, and Ohio. Most of which I belive is your ancestros are still alive and living in these states

Let me know who you are and maybe I can shed some light

Vincent Ziga
Chicago

Ziga

elishawyche — 2004-11-24 05:45:36Z

My great grand father is John Ziga, he married my great-grand mother in Hungry, and they moved to US in the 1910's, they had sereral children. My grand father name is Gus Ziga, and my Mother is Denise Ziga. If you have any information about the Ziga family, please email me elishawyche@aol.com.

Myles Zeleznik Obit 2004 Pa./Michael

2004-09-20 18:53:50Z

"Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Mon., Sept. 20 2004
Zeleznik Myles
Age 89, of Elizabeth Twp., formerly of Duquesne died Sun Sept. 19...Retired School Teacher & Basketball Coach...US Air Force during WWII... Born in Duquesne on Nov. 20, 1914 he was the son of the late Michael & Maria Nemec Zeleznik & the husband of the late Elsie Kish Z....dau...grandchildren...Teichart-Gracan Funeral Home...Duquesne Pa...Please sign the guest book at post-gazette.com" not my family

Re: Zelesnik

aliwoy — 2004-09-15 15:28:59Z

Joan, I'm sorry but I just realized that I was actually responding to a post made by Barb Lyga, not yours. Perhaps that explains the confusion. Disregard my previous posts. Thanks.

Re: Zelesnik

aliwoy — 2004-09-15 15:25:36Z

Hi, joan. I repsonded to your post because I noticed that your Zelesnik family came from Izby and settled in Bayonne, NJ. You mentioned that they came to Bayonne because relatives were already there.

My great-grandparents (Mary (Dombrowski) and John Popka) also came from Izby and settled in Bayonne for several years. I believe they also went to Bayonne because relatives were there. Since Izby is such a small town, and both our families ended up in Bayonne, I thought perhaps there may be some connection.

I'll check with my grandmother and see if the Zelesnik name rings any bells with her. Thanks.

Re: Zelesnik

2004-09-14 21:12:19Z

Hi ...I still read the boards...I know the zeleznik's all seem to be in carteret, NJ...but sure they branched out....some went to Canada...and some to michigan....Is Zelesnik the name you are researching....or is it a change in the spelling ...the names you ask about are not family to me ...but it is my husbands family...I will check out the names and see if anyone heard of them....If I can help in any way let me know ...Joan

Re: Zelesnik

aliwoy — 2004-09-14 17:56:19Z

I'm not sure if you will read this posting since it was 4 years ago! But in the chance that you do, My great-grandmother Mary (Dombrowski) Popka was born in Izby in 1896 and settled in Bayonne, NJ around 1914 (Not exact on that date). They later moved to upstate NY (Utica area). Perhaps there is some connection here? I believe I remember my grandmother telling me that they moved to Bayonne because they also had relatives there.

Just thought I would throw this info out there. Thanks, Alison

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

campdeerrun — 2004-06-19 23:56:53Z

My great-grandmother was Rosa Sachs Rosenthal who married Abraham Rosenthal. My grandfather Simon died in 1966. He married Libbie Raphael. They had two children, Bernard and Ruth. My mother Ruth, I believe, was named after Rosa. Abraham Rosenthal remarried and had several children.

John Zeleznikar

doughboycollector1 — 2003-12-01 21:40:28Z

Trying to find my husbands kin,John came to the United States when he was 16,lived in Leadville Colo, married Eva Kenick.Any info on either side we would be most grateful. Thank You,Cheryl Zeleznikar

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

2003-06-18 07:31:26Z

Thanks for the reply; I would guess that lewis Seleznick was a great-uncle. His son was David O Seleznick the producer.. Note the similarity of given names in the family. Myron was David's brother. My father's name was morris and my middle name is David. In hebrew the name morris is Moses. and Murrary also often has Moses as a Hebrew name. The Zeleznick family in Keiv was composed of 17 children. So this explains your many cousions. My father came to the US in 1916 alone and never indicated that he knew of any relatives other that Seleznick. Good to meet you cousin.

Re: Zeleznik

2002-11-07 17:48:27Z

Hi,

yes you are right. I know that in Slovenia it's a kind of dish. Zelnik comes from the slavic word 'slevo' that means settlement. In addition ... Zelnik can also be found in Transylvania (now Romania). Although there's difference in the pronounciation.
Actually, the Zelnik family originates from the former Highland (Felvidék - in Hungarian) where it lives since 800 yrs. according to my genealogy research. It was the name of a river (now called Suchy potok) and a settlement in lipto.
My family moved to Trenchen in the XVth century and most Zelniks live around that place.
It is an old noble family, so if anyone would like to deepen in this subject... I suggest to take a look in archive databases.

Best regards,

Csaba

Re: Zeleznik

2002-11-07 17:35:22Z

Hi there,

My name is Csaba Zelnik and I've been dealing with genealogy for 10 yrs now, so know the histors of the family pretty well. The history goes back to King IV.Béla who ruled in the XIII. centuries. Unfortunatelly I do not have an English version to offer (250 pages in Hungarian).
To make it sure: it has nothing to do with Zelenik, Zelenak, Zelnyek, Zelensky, etc. Your name must have changed if you"re sure that once it was Zelnik.
Though it is also a name of a food..., ZELNIK originally was a name of a small river in Lipto.
This is a noble - Highlander - family, did you know?

Csaba

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

2001-12-15 08:37:01Z

SEEKING INFO OF GRANDPA MOISHE SELESNICK'S FAMILY HISTORY FROM KIEV/CHERNOBYL, UKRAINE AREA(SHTETL UNKOWN). GRANDPA AND HIS BROTHERS SAM, JOSEF AND HYMAN LEFT CHERNOBYL 1900-1910 FOR THE USA (VIA COUSINS IN CANADA). LEFT BEHIND IN THE UKRAINE WAS BROTHER LABE, SISTER RACHEL, MOTHER VICHNA AND FATHER BEN-ZION. THE FATE OF SIBLINGS LABE AND RACHEL IS SUPPOSED BUT NOT CONFIRMED.

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

2001-12-09 00:48:10Z

I just wanted to see if you came across any of the Zalazniks in your searches? I just started reasearching my ancestry and my Great Grandfather Matt Zalaznik(b. Oct. 12, 1888) came over from Polhov Gradec. I'm currently trying to fill in the blanks of work my mother had done in the past. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I'll keep my eye out for information from your surname.

Zeleznik

2001-11-11 02:37:25Z

I am writing to suggest, for the unfamiliar, that there apparently are Zeleznik lineages, though I suspect that even they are one if you look before, say 1800. There are the Catholic (usually Greek or Byzantine Orthodox) families; and there are the Protestant families.

Ultimately, we came from similar regions of Europe, but it may be helpful for you to specify religion when trying to identify your own geneology.

For my family, none of the names and histories here sound familiar to me, and then they all do, but I don't think I can be of much help.

Re: zeleznik

2002-05-06 04:06:05Z

Dear Ron:

My name was Estelle Zelesnick. We lived in Philadelphia Penna. My Grandpop was Charles Zelesnick and was born in Russia. He died at the age of 78. His father was Joseph Zelesnick.

It is funny as we had a home in Manahawkin across the Bay from Long Beach Island and Spent many a day in Seaside Heights and Toms River and ate at the Forked River (is it still there on Rt. 9? )

Anxious to hear from you.

Be Well,
Stellie

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

2002-04-08 02:09:43Z

I KNON OUR NAMES ARE SPELLED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERANT,BUT I CANNOT SEEM TO FIND ANY OTHER ZELEZNICKYS OTHER THEN MY UNCLES AND AUNTS (14) OF THEM .MY FATHER , WHO IS 78 AND MY AUNT WHO IS IN HER 80,S ARE THE ONLY ONES LIVING . THEY MENTIONED A UNCLE MICHEAL ,COULD MAYBE THE LAST NAME HAVE BEEN CHANGED BACK IN THE OLD DAYS. PLEASE REPLY.

Re: Zeleznik

2002-02-22 07:21:01Z

Hi Victoria,
I dont know can this be some help for you, but in Slovenia is Zelnik known surname - not very widespread, but you can find them around. In English it means cabbage patch, cabbage plot or cabbage field.
I dont know how is with it in other Slavic countrys.

reply from message left to me

2002-07-22 23:33:31Z

kathi, thanks for the reply i didnot think any body read these things. the answer to your question . my faher and aunt were born in the us ( salem, connecticut). here is some more info; you never know it mite put apiece in someone elses puzzle? (haha). my grandfather was born 1868,died oct 1948, my grandmother (maiden name)helen nenarswsky born dec 24 1872,died sept 1969.once again kathi thanks for the reply. hope to hear from you again,god bless zeeman

zeleznik

2001-03-10 16:46:20Z

Hi Barb....sorry it took me so long...zeleznik came in through new york...from autria hungary...They moved to Carterete ...New jersy...I do have my genealogy posted on ancestry .com...my email address is Mosfriend1@aol.com

john zeleznik

2000-08-06 19:00:21Z

john zeleznik born march 30th 1893 was my grandfather. he came to the usa on or about early 1900s at ellis island as ayoung lad by himself. further going to arma, kansas i believe. he married the former ida wade andhad 4kids john,charles,tress, jess

Dorothy Zeleznik

2000-06-05 20:59:19Z

Hi there! I hope someone could help me out!

I recently found out that my Paternal Grandmother's madien name is Cizmar and that she is a child of Dorothy Zeleznik and Stephen Cizmar. My Grandmother's name is Marianne Cizmar-Varin and was born in the now Czech Republic in 1922. They moved to NYC sometime before 1940 - possibly to escape the war. I know very little else so any and all information would be appreciated.

Thank you

zeleznik

2000-01-05 05:21:24Z

Hi..I am researching the name zeleznik....I do know that my grandfather came from Austria-Hungry...Now I am trying to find the town...I found most of the info off the census...Is there any town where most Zeleznik came from..Joan

Zeleznik

1999-12-03 03:39:49Z

hellow,
my name is Zeleznik Ziga and I live in Slovenia (Slovenia was part of Yugoslavia and before that part of AustroHungerian Monarchy). First I must said that Im not looking for my relatives - I have some in USA but they are migreted with other names.
I want only explain that as I know Zeleznik is typical Slovene name, and of course if you thinking that yours ancestors were migreted in USA from Austria you are probably right - when it was happened in years before 1916. But I doubt that they are from Slovakia.
And yes, first letter Z (in name), have in original Sloven character set a corone and it is pronounced as 'zh' in 'doctor Zhivago' or 'su' in 'measure' or 'leisure'.
Good luck in your searchings!
Ziga

George Zeleznik, Mercersburg, PA

cribbswh — 2003-04-18 01:14:21Z

George Zeleznik

MERCERSBURG, Pa. - George Zeleznik, 76, of 5408 Charlestown Road, died Sunday, Dec. 29, 1996, at Fulton County Medical Center, McConnellsburg, Pa.

Born April 15, 1920, in Carteret, N.J., he was the son of the late John and Julia Dolgas Zeleznik.

He was preceded in death by his wife, Virginia L. Weed Zeleznik, in 1988.

He retired from the federal government in 1972 after 30 years of service. His last position was director of maintenance at Fort Meade, Md.

He was a veteran of World War II and served with the U.S. Army in the Pacific Theater.

He was a member of Harry Lackhove American Legion Post 517; Clarence Armstrong VFW Post 6241; and Loyal Order of Moose Lodge 1790, all of Mercersburg.

He is survived by two sons, Peter Joseph Zeleznik of Mercersburg and George Michael Zeleznik of Columbia, Md.; one sister, Elizabeth Kleban of Sewarren, N.J.; and three grandchildren.

A wake and prayer service will be Friday at 11 a.m. at Lininger-Fries Funeral Home, 47 N. Park Ave., Mercersburg. The Rev. Joseph L. Stahura will officiate. Burial will be in Fairview Cemetery, Mercersburg.

Visitation will be at the funeral home Thursday from 7 to 9 p.m.

Obituary Search
http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/obit-grabbag.htm
Obituary Links Page
http://www.obitlinkspage.com
GenLookups
http://www.genlookups.com

Hope this helps.
Bill

Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

KAZelenik — 2001-06-29 16:08:41Z

I am also researching this surname. Have found variants of all these spellings. My father-in-law Louis Zelenik was born Aug 25, 1917 in North Chicago, IL. His fathers name was Michael and he was supposedly born in Ljubljana. That is all we know as Louis was placed in a foster home shortly after birth due to his mother's death.

Zelenik/Zeleznik

KAZelenik — 2001-06-29 16:08:41Z

Yhanks for your help, I will let you know if I find anything

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

MadCityWoman — 2002-07-21 18:43:31Z

Sorry George, thats really all I have at the moment. I am trying to get Michael's Social Security application in hope there will be a thread to work with there.

You may be one of those families who came across an uncaring immigration official who just put down what he thought he heard.

Were your father and aunt born in the US? If not they may still have their immigration papers...or that of their parents (I found my husband's maternal grandfather's naturalization papers behind a wedding picture...apparently a fairly common practice)

Good luck...if I find anything more, I'll post it.

Zelesnik

BLyga50 — 2001-08-12 16:58:20Z

My husband's grandmother was Helen Zelesnik and she came from "Austria" around 1905. The village (Izby)is now in Poland on the Polish/Slovakia border. That is the area of Poland that was part of Austria after one of the Partitions. I'm just starting to research his side of the family and don't have much information. She had a sister who also came to this country. They settled in Bayonne, NJ and Helen married Onufrey Lyga who also was from the same area of Poland. Their language was carpathorussian (byelo-russian/low russian/rusyn). Could be from the same area as your ancestors--does anything sound familiar? Their religion was Greek Orthodox.

Zelesnik

BLyga50 — 2001-08-12 16:58:20Z

Hi Joan--Thanks for responding. As far as I know, only a sister and no other siblings came to America with Helen Zelesnik. Her sister's name was Mary and they came in about 1906-1908 from Austria, a very small town/village called Izby, in Poland. It's in the very SE corner of poland on the border. Do you know where your relatives came from. Mary (Sobolak) and Helen (Lyga) went to Bayonne, NJ. I don't know if they had any relatives there, but they must have known someone. She was born in about 1888 and her sister was younger.
Where were your Zeleznik relatives located here? And do you know the name of a village?

Good luck and hope to hear from you. Barb

Zelesnik

BLyga50 — 2001-08-12 16:58:20Z

I just began researching my husband's family. His grandmother was Helen Zelesnik Lyga and they lived in Bayonne, NJ. She came here from what is now Poland (records say Austria and Carpathorussia). Her village was Izby now in Poland and it is one mile from the border of Slovakia, SW of Krakow. I don't have any other info on her family except that a sister came with her. I know I'm responding to an old message--have you made any progress? Hope to hear.

zelesnik

BLyga50 — 2001-08-12 16:58:20Z

Oops, Izby if SE of Krakow, not SW. (200 miles straight south of Warsaw)

Zeleznik

J_zeleznik — 2002-01-02 18:59:57Z

Hi Barb...I to have just started this side of the family...Well according to some old letters ...There is a Helen...I am saving your posting...so far ...My father in law was John Zeleznik...His father same name...came from Austria...Which fits with your time line...That is about when they came over...They are on the 1910 census but nothing earlier...and I know there were some name changes...one is Charles selesnic..Which is John Sr. brother He moved to canada...there is also a Dolgas in there ...and a Schmunsky to...Let me know if this is any help ....Joan

zeleznik

J_zeleznik — 2002-01-02 18:59:57Z

Hi Kathi....what I have so far is that John Zeleznik came into the country...about 1905...there is a listing of a Micheal zeleznik in one of my mother in laws books...they lived in Indiana...and we have a cousin Micheal zeleznik in Maryland..When they came here I guess some went to Canada...but I only know of Charles at this point...Who change the spelling of the name...I still am trying to find out brothers..But I have only found that the zelezniks only appeared around the 1900..Joan..E-mail address is Mosfriend1@aol.com

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

cksgrl — 2003-06-18 17:31:05Z

That's pretty neat. I had always asked, but was told that we weren't related to David O., but that supposedly we came from the same "village" (Kiev) in Russia. As the elders disappear, it's so hard to get answers to things only they would know. I will speak to my dad today though and get for sure the names of my g-grandparents. I saw another post on here that looked even more similar with the lineage of the names; small world, right? Nice to meet you too!

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

cksgrl — 2003-06-17 18:23:48Z

Hi - don't know if you're still looking for answers on Zeleznick or not! But, my maiden name is Selznick, and I believe Lewis was either my great-grandfather, or my great-uncle. The lineage I know of is my deceased grandfather, Murray Selznick, who married my grandmother, Gertrude. I believe I was told as a child that the spelling of our name used to be Zeleznick before the family came from Kiev. Murray was just a baby at the time they arrived at Ellis Island. I believe you've found the right people. Murray and Gertrude had 4 boys, all still Selznick's of course, all still alive, ranging from their 40's-60's- Steven, David, Michael (my dad), and Edward. There's a lot of people in this family; I could go on forever - but the majority reside in FL, CA, then trickles to a few remaining in NJ, NY, PA, and AZ. Please let me know if I can answer anything else for you, or put you in touch with a particular person!

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

moammar — 2003-03-01 08:42:33Z

Do you have Sachs, or Rosenthal in your lineage?

Galezniak/Zeleznick/Zelesnick/etc.

Senwod — 2001-07-06 00:55:58Z

Any chance that Galezniak is a variant spelling? I know the family came from Galacia, but I don't know where yet.

Re: Zeleznik

vickypettit — 2002-08-22 23:50:05Z

Hi,
Little luck in searching my surname Zelnik. I wondered if the name changed somewhere.
My father John, born Jessup PA from Slovak or Slovenian ancestry, but orphaned about age 6 or 7 (1920). His mom Sophie, father Joseph. Country of origin unknown. I have an aunt Joan or JoAnn Zelnik who married into the Regan family, 2 sons, Walter and Patrick, who were 12 and 9 in 1965 when I met them (NJ).

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

drzlima — 2003-05-31 07:10:06Z

My grandfather, Eliazer Zeleznick, never left the Kiev area, his son Moishe came to the USA via China then Japan landing in LA area and then settled in Chicago. He left two sisters in Ukraine that migrated in late 1980 to US. I am also looking for the extended family. My father indicated that Lewis Selznick was an uncle.

Re: Zelenik/Zeleznik/Selesnik

drzlima — 2003-05-31 07:10:06Z

I really don't know anyone on my paternal mothers side. An aunt had a married name of Katz and a cousin was a Nianick.