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Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 1 Feb 2002 10:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear All:

There is an emerging interest in looking at the
possibility of developing a database of the
DNA markers for the Scottish Clans and Septs.

The Scottish clans are very unique in that the
Clans have been identified and family relationships
tracked for hundreds of years. Some Clan family
have documented histories stretching back to
before 1000 AD ( and some back to 500AD) .

So this leads to some interesting possibilities
of identifying current clan family members and
determining if the Scottish ancestry line can
be identified. Some have cautioned: be careful
because you may find out that you are not who
you think you are :-). Non-paternity events
were as frequent then as they are now.

There is also an interesting mailing list here on
Rootsweb : Genealogy-DNA-L@rootsweb.com.

It turns out that A couple of factors make this
a very interesting study for the Clans to be
involved in.

A: The mtDNA passes down from mother to daughter
only. So the matriarch of the family becomes
clearly identified and traceable. Scottish
history is one of the few in the world where
female lineage was often documented. Note that
non paternity events don't occur in this DNA
since obviously the mother knows her daughter
is her offspring.
B: The Y DNA passes from father to son. Then we can
again provide a clear line of potential coordination
between the written documentation and the DNA
markers.

There are some other fine points of the DNA identification
and you can find out a lot more in the archives of the
mailing list.

Anybody that is really interested in participating
should please reply to me at the email address below
or reply to this message post.
Then just list only your interest, surname , contact info
and potential Clan association. I don't want to
clog up the archives with a lot of "me too" emails
and board posts. :-) Any comments or questions are
appropriate to post.

Someone will then contact you for further details and
how to proceed. Please note there will probably be
cost of some amount for the DNA test. I don't know
what that amount is for the test but it probably about
$250. My initial survey indicates that we will want
the 23 marker DNA test to get some definitive answers.
I expect to get more details next week.

Please feel free to pass this message along to other
mailing lists and boards that may have a high per centage
of Scottish Clan or Sept descendants.

Should be an interesting database over the months and
years :-) Was that my Chief ???

Best Regards
John A Hansen
jahansen@qwest.net
Clan Board and List Admin

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Myrtle Rinker (View posts)
Posted: 21 Apr 2002 12:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi: Interesting Concept!
My mother was a DUNCAN,
Her Father, RUSH FLOYD DUNCAN
Contact: Myrtle Rinker, 1830 NW 23rd Place, Portland, OR
E-mail: mcrinker@msn.com (I'm 80 yrs old)

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 2 Sep 2003 6:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Doonkeen
What other ethnic groups have matriarchal lineage?

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 2 Sep 2003 6:18PM GMT
Classification: Query


There are many matriarchal descendants.

The islands in the pacific were a prime case
of this. Africa has some tribes that track only
the women in the family.

The Amazons of South America were another
even more famous example.

Best Regards
John A Hansen

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 2 Sep 2003 6:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
We are North American Indian of the Mekvsukey Nation of the Seminoles of Oklahoma...we also go ONLY by our mothers - the mothers knowing full well a child IS HER child although perhaps from another SOURCE outside of her direct mate.
My children are of the WIND Clan and the Mekvsukey Band. These two distinct group belongings run for humdreds of years.

By the way, Do you know anything of where the name 'DOONKEEN' could hail from?

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

Posted: 2 Sep 2003 7:20PM GMT
Classification: Query


Dear Wahilla:

I had forgot about our own Native Indians:-).
A mother always knows her own. The matriciahal
lineage is always more accurate.

There are some web sites that specialize in
the Native Indian genealogy. You can start with
Cindi's list as well.

http://www.seminolenation-indianterritory.org/remembrance.ht...

And this web site has lots of links.

http://www.seminolenation-indianterritory.org/index.html

Best Regards
John A Hansen
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