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ALLEN GAY

Phyllis Griffith (View posts)
Posted: 19 Oct 2002 4:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GAY
Gilbert S Gay Abt 1802 Hancock Georgia was our link to the past. But on different web pages it has him with Different mothers. Allen Gay was married to Celia Rae Elbert on Sept 5,1787 in some places it says she is Gilbert's mother. But in others it says Abigail Castleberry b.aug 24,1767 was his mother. Since this is the line we are from I need to find out the who was His Mother. thank you

Re: ALLEN GAY

Posted: 21 Oct 2002 11:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Apr 2004 11:59PM GMT
You have several thing to determine before you try to answer the question of who is Gilbert S. Gay's mother.
First, which Gilbert Gay do you mean? There are two that have been confused for many years. Gilbert S. Gay is not the son of Allan Gay at all, but is the son of Joshua Gay, who was Allan Gay's brother. Gilbert (no middle initial) Gay who was the son of Allan Gay is a different man. Where did your Gilbert live and when did he die?? Gilbert S, Gay died in Coosa County Alabama in 1857. Gilbert Gay lived much longer and died in 1881 in Carrol or Coweta County Georgia. Gilbert Gay (died 1881 GA) was the son of Allan Gay and Abigail Castleberry. There is no proof at all that Allan Gay ever married Celia and no proof that she was anybody's mother. I am a descendant of Gilbert S. Gay (who died in Coosa County AL in 1857). There are several researchers who are descendants of the other Gilbert Gay. When you figure out which man you are descended from look at my home pages at www.lakemartin.net/~ehend.

Re: ALLEN GAY

Roy D. Gay (View posts)
Posted: 23 Oct 2002 7:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gay
There was a Joseph Allen Gay b.Nov.10,1863 d.Feb. 10,1940 his 2nd Marrage was to Ceclia Binkley.He was the Son of Alfred P. Gay& Elizabeth C. Thompkins.
Roy D. Gay
rgay3@msn.com

Re: ALLEN GAY of NC and GA and the mythical Celia Rae Elbert

Posted: 5 Jun 2003 2:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Oct 2004 2:57PM GMT
Surnames: GAY, CASTLEBERRY
Just a note to pass on some recent new information that I
obtained from the Revolutionary War Bounty Land Warrant file
of the heirs of former Governor of Georgia Samuel Elbert (the alleged father of the mythical Celia Rae Elbert who allegedly married Allen Gay (son of Thomas and Patience Gay). The following information came from a file at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. and it names ALL of the children and legal heirs of Samuel Elbert. The information in the file is remarkable for the ABSENCE of any
reference whatsoever to Allen Gay's family, who would have been legal heirs IF Allen Gay really married a daughter of Gov. Samuel Elbert. This proves that the Celia Rae Elbert alleged marriage to Allen Gay was a MYTH and most likely a fanciful story told to some descendant of Allen Gay long, long ago, which was apparently believed and thus was written into Georgia history book articles from the mid 1920's with the myth persisting today:

Revolutionary War Bounty Land applications and file of the heirs of Samuel Elbert
Bounty Land Warrant # 1230-500
(Reference: Source: National Archives, Washington, D.C. )

February 1827
State of Georgia, County of Richmond
I, Sarah Elbert, a maiden lady and one of the heirs at law of Samuel Elbert, late of the County of Chatham, deceased, do upon oath testify and declare that to the best of my knowledge and belief, the said Samuel Elbert was a Colonel in the Army of the Revolutionary War in the Georgia line a Continental establishment and serves as such t the close of the War. Also I do further testify and declare that I have never received a warrant from the United States for the quantify of land due the said deceased from the United states nor do I believe that he has ever received it or transferred his right to it to in any manner during his lifetime.Therefore know all men by these presents that Sarah Elbert as aforesaid do hereby contitute and appoint Joseph Watson of Washington City my true and lawful attorney for me and in my name to demand and receive from the Secretary of War of the United States a warrant for the quantify of land due me in right of said deceased.
And my said attorney is hereby authorized and empowered to constitute and appoint one or more substitutes or attorneys under him for the special purpose therein ?? and the same to revoke at will. In witness whereof I have heretunto set my hand and seal this ?? Friday of February 1827. Sarah Elbert

February 21, 1827
State of Georgia, County of Richmond
Be it remembered that on this day the twenty first day of ?? 1827, there has been adduced to the satisfactory evidence to prove that Sarah Elbert who has made the foregoing declaration of oath and has subscribed the power of attorney herewith ??, is a maiden lady and one of the heirs of Samuel Elbert, late a Colonel in the Contintental Army of the Revolution and that the other heirs of the said Samuel Elbert are four in number to wit: Miss Sarah Elbert the siner above, a daughter of Col. Samuel Elbert; Elizabeth M. Muse the daughter of Catharine R. ELbert and John Burke intermarried; Mrs. Catharine R. Kerr and Mrs Elizabeth E. Holt the daughters of Elizabeth Elbert and Michael Burke intermarried, the said Catharine R. ELbert and ELizabeth Elbert the daughters of Col. Sam'l Elbert; and ?? the wife of Samuel L. Elbert, deceased the son of Col. Sam's Elbert and that the above named persons are all the heirs of the said Samuel Elbert known to be living.
In witness of all which, I have hereunto affixed my hand and seal official, in my capacity of a ?? this 21st day of February 1827. Isaac Herbert, Clerk of the Court of Ordinary

March 14, 1827
Warrant 1230 issued to Miss Sarah Elbert and heirs of Colonel Sam'l Elbert of Georgia line for 500 acres of land and delivered to Jos. Watson

March 14, 1827
Bounty Land Warrant No. 1230
Pursuant to an Act of Congress, authorizing the Secretary of War to issue Land Warrants, and for other purposes (of the act) passed on the 15th day of April 1806, Miss Sarah Elbert, daughter, and other heirs of Col. Sam'l Elbert, Geo. Line, are entitled to five hundred acres of land, to be located, agreeably to said act, on any unlocated parts of the fifty quarter townships and the fractional quarter townships, reserved by law for original holders of military warrants.
Given at the War Office this fourteenth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty seven.

Revolutionary War Bounty Land Scrip Application of the heirs of Samuel Elbert
Scrip Application #1436

May 1836
State of Georgia
City of Augusta
Personally came before me John W Wilde Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of the City of Augusta, Mrs. Anne Cummings, and on oath saith that she was well acquainted with the late Gen'l Samuel Elbert and his family, that he left five children; Catherine who was married to a Mr. John Burke and died having a daughter Eliza who was married to a Mr. Muse and is believed now to be living in Virginia or North Carolina; Elizabeth marrried to Michael Burke and is dead having left two daughters Catharine the wife of Mr. John Kerr and Elizabeth the wife of Thomas T. Holt; Miss Sarah Elbert now in life; Samuel L. Elbert who died without issue having a widow Harriet A. Elbert who is still living; and Matthew Elbert who died young and without issue.
In testimony whereof I have hereto set my hand and caused this seal of the Court to be annexed this second day of May 1836. Ann Cummings

Senate Chambers
September 1837
Received from the Commissioners of the General Land Office, certificates No. 10138, 10139, 10140, 10141, 10142, 10143, 10144 in the name of Sarah Elbert, Eliza Muse, Catharine Kerr, Elizabeth L. Holt and Harriet A. Elbert, the only heirs at law of Samuel Elbert in heir of U.S. Warrant No. 1230 for 500 acres. Jno. P. King
1436

July 6, 1837
Judge M. Bischard S L Office
Sir, Scrip is claimed on a Warrant for 500 acres granted by the U.S. The heirs are Sarah Elbert, ELiza Muse, Catharine Kerr and Elizabeth L. Holt. These four heirs I think are entitled to the Scrip. I respectfully request you to say whether in your opinion Harriet A. Elbert, the widow of Samuel L. Elbert is entitled to a part of this claim? The evidence of heirship is evidenced together with the Warrant. Most Respectfully, J.W.Kelley 6 July 1837.
Attachment:
July 5, 1837
I sent for your inspection the proof of heirship filed in the case of Col. Samuel Elbert. Real and personal estates are considered by the Statues of Georgia of the same nature and placed on the same footing in regard to descents only so far as the widow is concerned. If there be a widow and child or children, they take equal shares
unless the widow shall prefer her dower, in which case she has nothing further of the real estate, but nevertheless received a child's part out of the personal estate. If there be a widow and no child or representative of the children then the widow takes a moriety? of the estate and the other moriety ? goes to the next of kin of the intestates in equal degrees and their representatives. The widow by statute is obliged within 12 months after the death of her husband to make her election, whether she will take a child's part of the real estate or her dower: if she makes no such election it is considered as taking her dower. If she takes dower, which is perhaps the position in which Mrs. Harriet A. Elbert stands it is but a life estate; if she took a child's part, it is at her disposition by deed or will. Wm. Gordon July 5, 1837
If your endorsement on the back of this letter in relation to Warrant No. 2091 is extended as an inquiry, I would state that I have examined this proof of heirship and find it duly authenticated. W.G.
July 1, 1837
Wm. Gordon, By Law Offices W. Dept.
Sarah Elbert daughter of Samuel Elbert, and Eliza Muse, Catharine Kerr and Elizabeth L. Holt grandchildren of the late Samuel Elbert.
Dear Sir, I concur the four heirs above named entitled to the Scrip on the Warrant enclosed as evidence of heirship. Would in your opinion Harriet A. Elbert, the widow of Samuel L. Elbert be entitled to a share in this Warrant? Yours ??, J.W. Kelley 1 July 1837

August 1834
State of New York, City of New York
Know all men by these presents that I, Harriet Ann Elbert, widow of Samuel Elbert and one of the heirs at law of General Samuel Elbert who was a Brigadier General of the State of Georgia and the Continental Establishment in the Revolutionary War do hereby constitute, nominiate and appoint John Kerr and David Thompson or either of them my true and lawful attorney to prosecute any claim to land or money that may be due from the State of Georgia and the United States or either on account of the Revolutionary Service of General Samuel Elbert deceased and to demand and receive from the proper offices in Milledgeville, Georgia and Washington City any land Warrant or Warrants so due and to surrender them at the General Land Office in order to obtain Certificates of Scrip in lieu thereof, which is he is authorized to accure, sell and assign or if said Warraant be already surrendered then to demand and receive the Certificates and to sell and assign the same. If no Scrip can be obtained he is authorized to receive the Warrants which may have been surrendered and to locate or sell the same as he may think best. Said attorney is also authorized to prosecute by suit or petition and to demand and receive from the State of Georgia and the United States any half pay or commutation and interest that may be due particularly under the Act of Congress of the fifth of July 1832 and to substitute and appoint one or more attorneys under him with a general or special authority to do all he is permitted to do and make the same at pleasure.
I hereby certify and confirm whatever said attorney or his attorneys may lawfully do. As witnessed my hand and seal this fourth day of August 1834, signed, sealed and delivered, Harriet Ann Elbert
United States of America, City of New York; Be it known that on the fourth day of August One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Four before me James R. Whiting a Public Notary in and for the State of New York, duly commissioned and sworn, dwelling in the City of New York, personally came Harriet Ann Elbert, proved to my satisfaction to be the person described in and who executed the within power of Attorney by the Oath of David Leabury the subscribing witness thereto to me personally known who testified that he knew her to be such person and the said Harriet Ann Elbert acknowledged the within letter of Attorney to her act and deed. In testimony whereof I have hereto set my name and affixed my seal of Office this day and year above written. James R. Whiting, Notary Public

October 1835
State of Virginia, County of Hariss
Know all men by these presents that we, Lewis Muse and his wife Eliza Muse formerly Eliza Burke, citizens of Hariss. County and State of Virginia, one of the heirs at law of Gen'l Samuel Elbert deceased, to hereby constitute, nominate and appoint David Thompson and John Kerr our true and lawful attorney to prosecute any claims to land or money that may be due from the State of Georgia and the United States or either on account of the Revolutionary Services of Brigadier Gen'l Samuel Elbert deceased and to demand and receive from the proper offices in Georgia and Washington City and Land Warrant or Warrants so due and to surrender them at the General Land Office in order to obtain Certificates of Scrip in lieu theeof, which he is ahtorized to receive, sell and assign, or if said Warrants be already surrendered, then to demand and receive the Certificates and to sell and assign the same......under the Act of Congress of the fifth of July 1832....We hereby ratify and confirm whatever said attorney or his attorneys may lawfully do in the premises. As witness our hand and seal this 10th day of October 1835. Witness: T. Burdett, J.P. Lewis L. Muse, ELiza M. Muse

September 2, 1854
To: John Wilson Commissioner, General Land Office, Augusta GA
From: Samuel Elbert Kerr
Sir, enclosed certain papers in reference to the case of the heirs of J. Kerr. Dear Sir, Enclosed you will please find all the papers which you deemed requisite in your favor of 19th inst. in order to make the proper endorsements so that this suit will be received at the land office without objection. The Scrip is still the property of the heirs
of J. and A. Kerr and they wish to locate and W.E. Boswell of Memphis Tennessee is the agent to locate for them. I hope all the papers will prove satisfactory to you and that you will reply at your earliest convenience. I remain respectully yours, Sam'l Elbert Kerr

Aug 26, 1854
State of Georgia, Richmond County
Personally appeared before me John H. Spencer a Justice of the Peace in and for State and County aforesaid duly commissioned and sworn, James Hope who being duly sowrn deposeth and saith, "That Andrew Kerr late of Tunica County, Mississippi now deceased was at the time of his death the true and lawful ownder of land Scrip hereto annexed numbered 10139 and 10141 originally issued to the heirs at law of Samuel Elbert and that the said Andrew Kerr during his lifetime stated to him the said James Hope that the said Scrip had been assigned by him the said Andrew, but the the purchaser could not have the said Scrip received at the land office because there did not appear to be any authority for John Kerr to sign the names of Muse and wife and Harriet Elbert as their attorney in the assignment from the heirs to Andrew Kerr. That the said Andrew Kerr thereupon refunded the purchase money and received back the Scrip. James Hope Sworn to and subscribed before me this 26th day of August 1854. John H. Spencer, J.P.

August 18, 1854
State of Georgia, County of Richmond
Know all men by these presents that we, John Kerr, James Collier, Henry Rossignol and James Hope are held and firmly bound unto the President of the United States for the time being and his successors in office in the sum of three hundred dollars for payment of which we bind ourselves, our heirs, executors and administrators.
The condition of the above obligation is such that whereas Andrew Kerr, lte of Tunica County and State of Mississippi was at the time of his death seized and possessed of certain land Scrip numberd ten thousand one hundred and thirty nine 10139 and ten thousand one hundred and forty one 10141, originally issued to the heirs at law of Samuel Elbert and by them transferred to said Andrew and there appeares an endorsement on said scrip from said andrew to me N.R? Cole but the name of said Cole is erased and whereas the said Scrip is now claimed by the heirs at law of said Andrew Kerr to wit: Samuel Kerr of Rowan County, North Carolina, John Kerr, James G. Collier and Mary E. Collier his wife, Henry Rossignol and Harriet A. Rossignol his wife and Catharine C. Wilson of Augusta Georgia, and whereas the Commissioners of the General Land Office at Washington has made endorsements on said Scrip by means whereof said scrip has become available to the said heirs of Andrew Kerr and yet by possibility the said Scrip may be claimed by the said Cole or his representatives. Now therefore if the said Cole or his representatives should hereafter establish his or their claim to said Scrip to the detriment of the United Sttes, then this obligation to remain in full force else to be null and void and of no effect.
Subscribed with our hands and sealed with our seals this twenty nighth day of August, eighteen hundred and fifty four. John Kerr, James G. Collins, H. Rossignol, James Hope.

August 28, 1854
State of Georgia, Richmond County
Before me Leon P. Dugal Ordinary in and for the State and County aforesaid having Probate jurisdiction, personally came James Hope who being sworn deposeth and saith that Samuel Kerr of Rowan County North Carolina, John Kerr, James G. Colllier and Mary E Collier his wife, Henry Rossignol and Harriet A. Rossignol his wife and Catharine C. Wilson of Augusta Georgia are all well known to him and the said James and that they are the only heirs at law of Andrew Kerr late of Tunica County, Mississippi, deceased. sworn to and subcribed this 28th day of August 1854. James Hope

August 1854
Rowan County, North Carolina Probate Court, August Term 1854
Last Will and Testament of Samuel Kerr
I, Samuel Kerr of Rowan County, North Carolina do make and declare this to be my last Will and Testament,,,
Item 1. I desire all my just debts and liabilities paid as soon after my decease as will be convenient for my representatives...
Item 2. I give and bequeath to my nephew Samuel E. Kerr and to the three children of Wm. H. Kerr my half of the plantation lying in the County of Tunica, State of Mississippi consisting of about thirty six hundred acres and known by the name of Peyton with all the ??? stock and other property of every kind and denomination whatsoever that my be on it at the time of my decease. One half of said interest of mine to Samuel E. Kerr and the other half to the said three children of Wm. H. Kerr, them, their heirs and assigns forever. And I hereby appoint my neice Mrs. Mary E. Gardner trustee of all the property and estate hereby willed to Samuel E. Kerr and to Wm. H Kerr, their children, to hold the title to the same and every part thereof for their use and benefit.
Item 3. I give and bequeath to Mary E. Gardner my neice all my interest in the lands in the County of Shelby in the State of Tennessee near the city of Memphis, known as the Memphis Lands, and also a lot in Memphis situated at the corner of Hernando and Vance Sts., to her and her heirs and assigns forever.
Item 4. I give and bequeath to my neice Mary Collier of the City of Augusta, Georgia twenty nine Mississippi and Tennessee Railroad Bonds, bearing interest at the rate of ten per cent per annum; also twenty five thousand dollars in Confederate Eight percent Bond to be hers, for her sole and separate use and benefit, free and discharge from the control of her husband and not to be in any way liable for any debt or contract of her husband, but to be hers and after her death to go to her children or the representatives of her children and to fully carry out the intention of his legacy, I hereby constitute and appoint Dr. Henry Rossignol trustee of all the property conveyed in this item of my will as well as any other property that I may convey to the said Mary Collier in any subsequent part of this Will.
Item V. I hereby give and bequeath to my neice Harriet A. Rossignol twenty seven percent Mississippi and tennessee Rail Road Bonds and also twenty five thousand dollars in Confederate Bonds to her and her heirs and assigns forever. Item VI. I give and bequeath to my neive Kate E. Barnes the platnation which I live situated in the County of Rowan and State of North Carolina together with all the slaves, stock of all kinds, the household and kitchen furniture and all my silver plate and silver ware and all articles of peoperty of every kind and denomination that may be on my said plantation or belong thereto at my decease. And I also give to her all my stock in the North Carolina Rail Road Company.
Item VII. I give and bequeath all my stock in the Fire Insurance and Baking Company in the City of Augusta, Georgia to Mary Collier, Harriet A. Rossignol and Kate C. Barnes my three neices, jointly and equally and I also give to them all my interest in the lands in Obion County, Tennessee, the interest going to Mary Collier to vest in the Trustee heretofore appointed for her.
Item VIII. I give and bequeath to my little grandnephew Samuel K. Rossignol son of my neicce Harriet A. Rossignol
forty seven hundred dollars in the stock of the Bank of the State of North Carolina being all the Stock I possess in said Bank.
Item IX. I give and bequeath to the trustees, deacon or other officers of Thyatera ? Church in Rowan County who have charge of her financial affairs, the sum of Five Thousand Dollars to be paid by ny neice Kate C. Barnes at her convenience this sum to be placed at interest and the income therefrom as it annually accrues, shall be used in repairing and improving the buildings or grounds as such repairs and improvements may be necessary but in no event shall the income from this legacy or any part thereof be used in payment of the salary of the Pastor.
Item X. I give and bequeath all my bonds and certificates, notes and money not heretofore disposed of, to my neive Kate C. Barnes.
And lastly, I hereby nominate and appoint Dr. Henry Rossignol and Kate C. Barnes, Executor and Executrix of this my Last Will and Testament. Samuel Kerr
Signed, sealed and declared to be the last Will and Testament of Samuel Kerr in presence of J.J. Summerville, John M. McConnaghey.

State of North Carolina, Rowan County
Court of Pleas
August Term 1865
I, John M. Horan, Clerk of the Superior Court ex officio, Judge of Probate in an for county and state aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true copy of the Last Will and Testament of Sam's Kerr, Dec'd, and of the record of the Court of Pleas Quarter Session of Rowan County of August Term A.D. 1865 of the probate of thes said Will and the appointments of the Executors thereof. Witness my hand and official seal this 25th day of August A.D. 1865 ?? J.M. Horah, Clerk of Superior Court and Probate.

September 1879
State of Georgia, County of Richmond
I, Anderson W. Walton Ordinary of the County foresaid do hereby certify that Addie C. Bothwell is well kown to me and that she is the only surviving child and heir at law of Mary E. Collier late of the said county of Richmond, deceased and that the said Mary E. Collier was well known to me as a niece of John and Andrew Kerr, both now deceased. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my office this six day of Sepember 1879. A. N. Walton, Ordinary


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MISCELLANOUS RESEARCH NOTES FOR SAMUEL ELBERT and ELIZABETH RAE:

Marriage Notice from Savannah, Georgia newspaper "Georgia Gazette",
issue of November 29, 1769 page 2, Column 1:
Married, Samuel Elbert Esq. to Miss Besy Rae, November 29th.
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Chatham County, Georgia Abstract of Wills 1773 - 1817, book printed in 1933

John RAE - - Will written April 12, 1777, probated Aug 26, 1778. To sister Jane Somerville; to Miss Ann Somerville; To Miss Elizabeth and Miss Caty, daughters of Col. Samuel ELBERT. To Cornelis Richeson.
Mentions lands about twelve miles above Augusta called "Garmency Island". Executors: Sister Jane Somerville, Robert Rae, Samuel Elbert.
Witness: Richard Guinn, Sarah Guinn, Mary Muere
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Chatham County, Georgia Will Book C
Samuel ELBERT - - Will dated July 2, 1788; probated Sept 15, 1789To children: Catherine Rae, Elizabeth, Sarah, Samuel Emanuel DeLafayette, Mathew, and Hugh Rae Elbert.
Executors: Wife Elizabeth and friend William Stephens
Witnesses: Joseph Clay, Hugh Scott, D. Macleod. Codicil dated July 6, 1788. Testator appoints Joseph Habersham as an additional executor. Witness: Joseph Clay, Hugh Scott, G. Wilson. (NOTE: Hugh Rae Elbert NOT a son,but a witness!!)
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Chatham County, Georgia Deed Book G page 23
Deed dated 1-1-1787
Jno. Jamieson Esq. of Savannah to Robert RAE, Joseph Habersham Esqs. as trustees, conveying lot $2 in Vernonburg, containing 30 acres granted to Samuel Hammond and by him deeded to grantor.....for in consideration of 1000. ? conveyed to said trustees for the use and benefit of Elizabeth the wife of Samuel ELBERT and after her death then to go to her children Catherine Rae ELBERT and Elizabeth ELBERT and any other children born to her and her husband ELBERT. Witnesses: Thos. Ross and Wm. Stephens.
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Augusta, Georgia Newspaper marriage notice from The Chronicle and
Gazette, April 1791 issue - - Married, April 23, 1791, lst Sunday, Mr. Jno. Cobbison of Cambellton, SC, merchant, to Mrs. Anna RAE, widow of the late James RAE, Esq.
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Southern Centinel Gazette, Augusta, Georgia newspaper article, Nov 8,
1798 - -
Married Tues. evening by Rev. Dr. Boyd, Mr. Jno. B. Wilkerson of Savannah, merchant, to Miss Eliza RAE, daughter of Jno. RAE, Esq., deceased.
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Richmond County, Georgia Marriage Licenses Issued 1785 - 1849 - -
Dr. Michael BURKE & Elizabeth ELBERT, May 4, 1799.
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Marriage Notice from the Gazette, Savannah, Georgia, issue of May 15, 1799 - -
In Augusta, GA, the 5th instant, Dr. Michael BURKE of Savannah to Miss Betsy ELBERT , daughter of Gen. Samuel ELBERT, deceased.
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Death Notice from the Gazette, Savannah, Georgia, Issue of April 6, 1798 - - Early Sunday morning, Mrs. Ann Burke, wife of Dr. Michael Burke,
aged 31 years, of Savannah. (NOTE: Ann must have been the first wife, since the marriage date of Miss Betsy (Elizabeth) ELBERT to Dr. Michael Burke was in 1799. )
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Marriage Notice from Savannah Gazette (Savannah, GA), issue of Sept 22, 1791 - - Married on Sunday at Great Ogeechee, Capt. Jno. BURKE and Kitty ELBERT,
daughter of Gen. Samuel ELBERT, deceased.
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Death Notice from the Georgia Gazette - - Dec 3, 1795 - - Died last night, Capt. John Burke.
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Marriage Notice from Savannah Gazette (Savannah, GA) - - issue of May 2, 1799 - -, Married, Thos. Netherclift, Esq. and Mrs. Catherine Burke, widow of Capt. Jno. Burke.
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Death Notice from the Georgia Gazette, Savannah, GA, issue of Jan 26,
1792 - - Died at Great Ogeechee, Elizabeth ELBERT, the widow of Gen. Samuel ELBERT.
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Some Early Epitaphs in Georgia, compiled by the Georgia Society of the Colonial Dames of America, copyrighted in 1924:

Major-General Samuel Elbert
In 1788, one hundred and thirty six years ago, Major General Samuel Elbert was laid away to rest in the family burial grounds at Rae's Hall. His remains and those of his wife were reverantly removed from that spot and on March 10, 1924, reinterred in Colonial Cemetery near where sleep so many of his Companions in Arms. Honors befitting the
memory of the Colonial, State and Revolutionary leader were paid with all of the solemnity and dignity of a military funeral. This is the only burial in this cemetery since July 1, 1853, special permission for it having been obtained from the municipal authorities.
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Atlanta Constitution Newspaper Article, (Atlanta, GA), issue of Feb 21, 1924: D.A.R. chapter plans to remove body of ELBERT - - - Macon, Georgia, Feb 20th - - The body of Samuel Elbert, Revolutionary War General and early
Governor of Georgia, will be removed from the present resting place at Rae's Hall near Savannah, in the early spring with ceremonies that will honor the early Georgia patriot. Mrs. Ellen Washington Belamy of Macon, GA a descendant of General Elbert, has been informed in a communiction from the Elbert Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution at Tennile. Mrs. Bellamy has been invited as a descendant of the general's family, to represent the Elbert Chapter at the exercises. She had
previously been invited by Richard Travis, chairman of the Savannah Association, to be present at the occasion."
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Atlanta, Constitution newspaper article, issue of March 11, 1924 (page 4)
SAVANNAH's PAY TRIBUTE to General Samuel ELBERT

Savannah, GA, March 10th - - Amid booms of salutes fired from cannon, reinterment in th Colonial Cemetery of General Samuel ELBERT, Major General of Washington's Revolutionary Army and once Governor of the State of Georgia, was marked this afternoon with impressive ceremonies, 136 years after the death of the military and political leader of Colonial, Revolutionary and Early Statehood of Georgia. The cortege was impressive with full military honor. General Robert
Travis of the 118th Field Artillery, National Guard of Georgia, was master of ceremonies.
Colonel Raymond Sheldon, commander at Fort Screven, was chief speaker of the day. He recounted the life and excellences of General Elbert. In the audience were members of the Sons of the Revolution, Daughters of the Revolution, Colonial dames and the society of the Colonial Wars, the
Society of the Cincinnati, the U.D.C. Confederate Veterans, the Sons of Veterans, the Georgia Historical Society and other organizations. Mrs. Richard V. Evans, wife of Judge Richard V. Evans of Birmingham, Ala; , a lineal descendant of General ELBERT, accompanied by her niece Mrs. H. Perry, also of Birmingham, took part in the ceremonies this
afternoon. General ELBERT was the great great great grandfather of Mrs. Evans and the great great great great grandfather of Mrs. Perry.
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All of this leads to the conclusion that Allen Gay's first wife and the mother of ALL of his children was Abigail Castleberry and that Allen Gay was never married to a Celia Rae Elbert.

Candace

Re: ALLEN GAY of NC and GA and the mythical Celia Rae Elbert

Doubleugly Phillips (View posts)
Posted: 3 Apr 2004 6:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GAY - WRIGHT - JACKSON - STRINGER - PHILLIPS
Candace....Your posted message has been read. All my GAY Files will show Abigail Castleberry as the mother of all. Thanks for your excellent research...."DU"

Re: ALLEN GAY of NC and GA and the mythical Celia Rae Elbert

Sherrie (View posts)
Posted: 4 Apr 2004 2:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Allen Gay
Allen
My has too. In that funny how that happen that way. I would love to see how it lead to your family tree and see if it the some as my. My grandma is Freddiemac Gay (McKinney). Her Father was John William JR. Gay, Grand father John G-Great Willaim Sr., G-Great grand father John Allen Gay, GGGrandfather John William, Allen Gay & Abigail Castleberry.
Sherie,

Re: ALLEN GAY of NC and GA and the mythical Celia Rae Elbert

Posted: 10 Nov 2012 4:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brewer, Brown, Hale, Norris, Stamps, Willis
I have been told that two of Allen Gays daughters married two Stamps brothers. I am trying to find out which is the ancestor of Willie Mae Stamps-Hale. Could anyone please help me to find this information.
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