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John Slezak Jakubov, Bohemia

John Slezak Jakubov, Bohemia

Posted: 26 Sep 2012 11:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Slezak
Married Helen? 4 Oct 1919 in Roman Catholic Church at Gajary, Czecho-Slovakia. Would anyone know Helen's maiden name or either of their parent's names?

Re: John Slezak Jakubov, Bohemia

Posted: 27 Sep 2012 12:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
sarring
Why you suspect Jakubov, Bohemia and not Jakubov, Slovak Republic, which is not far from Gajary, Slovak Republic.
I would think that in 1919 these 2 ancestors were birds of a same feather - common language and common tradition to observe.

SLEZAK in Gajary's phone book:
http://telefonny.zoznam.sk/slezak/gajary/

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=16.951151&y=48.413826&z=12&...

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=16.948288&y=48.466202&z=12&...

https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainfra... &columns=*,0,0

https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainfra... &columns=*,0,0

An ALL site for research in Slovakia
www.iabsi.com/gen/public

Jakubov, Slovakia [bratislav region]
1773 Jacobi Villa, Jakabfalva, Jakobsdorff, Jakuben [!], 1786 Jakabfalwa, Jakobsdorf, Jakubow, 1808 Jakabfalva, Jakobsdorf, Jakubowá, 1863–1882, 1898–1907 Jakabfalva, 1888–1895 Jakabfalu, 1913 Nagyjakabfalva, 1920 Jakubové, Jakubov, 1927– Jakubov [all the names this location was known by]

Gajary, Slovakia [ bratislava region]
1773 Gajarinum, Gájár, Gairing, Gajare, 1786 Gajring, Gajar, Gajerinum, 1808 Gajar, Gayring, 1863, 1898–1913 Gajar, 1873–1895 Gajár, 1920 Gajáre, 1927– Gajary

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/pozsony.jpg

Slezak, Janos Jakabfaba 19 1887 1906 arr. NY Ellis Island.

Re: John Slezak Jakubov, Bohemia

Posted: 27 Sep 2012 3:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
I took the information from his 1919 passport applications.

Re: John Slezak Jakubov, Bohemia

Posted: 27 Sep 2012 3:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for the information. I appreciate your thoughtfulness in helping us.

Re: SLEZAK

Posted: 27 Sep 2012 4:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome.

Found a SLEZAK Anna arriving from Gajar thru EI.
Slezak, Anna Gajar 17 1887 1904

Have you located their arrival manifest?

Re: John Slezak Jakubov, Bohemia

Posted: 27 Sep 2012 4:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Up to 1918 it was
http://www.brainworker.ch/Oesterreich/Austria-hungary.png.
After the fall of this empire several new countries were formed and one was Czechoslovakia, which in 1993 separated into Czech Republic and Slovak Republic.

Re: SLEZAK

Posted: 28 Sep 2012 1:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for responding once again. I have both Emergency Passports for John Slezak and one for John and Helen. I also have one manifest with an arrival date of 11 Dec 1919.
I have their burials and their cemetery plots information. John used various names of his homeland and I am sure that was because of the area changing it's name at the time.
I really just would like to know Helen's name but I guess I can go to Milwaukee for the death certificate, hopefully it will be listed.

Re: SLEZAK

Posted: 28 Sep 2012 1:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome sarring.
Why use Bohemia? It was Austria that ruled Bohemia, Moravia - present Czech Republic.

Up to 1918 it was Austria-Hungary with Hungary ruling present Slovak Republic. After the fall of this empire Czechoslovakia came to be www.cgsi.org - full map. [Ruthenia is now part of Ukraine. In 1995 Czechoslovakia separated into Czech Republic and Slovak Republic.

If they married in Gajary than Jakubov that is real close makes sense that one of them was from. Most of the time the marriage would take place in wife's church.
I have seen an US census where a Slovenian person is Slovak and vice a versa. I have seen an arrival manifest where a Moravian is listed as Bohemian.
What language did John SLEZAK list as "mother tongue" on an US census?

Since they married in "old country" than their church marriage record would have Helen's place of birth. The children's church baptismal record should have mother's maiden name.

Slezak, Helen 19 1900 1919
Slezak, John 32 1887 1919
I think this is the arrival manifest you are talking about.
Is there a typing error for Helen's age? Have you located their naturalization intent and petition? There would be some information maybe even Helen's maiden name.

I still say the ancestors were birds of a same feather - same language to communicate in and same tradition to observe.

Have you located John SLEZAK's first arrival to America?
Zlatica

Re: Gajary, Jakubov, Slovakia

Posted: 28 Sep 2012 1:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
sarring, might not help but at least you see surnames that were in Gajary and Jakubov in 1995. It does includes females. [ova, ska ending]
V obci GAJARY (okr. BRATISLAVA-VIDIEK) sa v roku 1995 nachádzali najčastejšie tieto priezviská: GALBOVÁ 52×; GALBA 50×; ŠÍROVÁ 39×; ŠÍRA 33×; SLÁMOVÁ 31×; ČERNÁ 29×; SLÁMA 27×; ČERNÝ 25×; VANIŠOVÁ 23×; SUCHÁNKOVÁ 22×; HURBANOVÁ 21×; SPUSTOVÁ 20×; SALAYOVÁ 19×; PERNECKÝ 19×; HURBAN 17×; ORTHOVÁ 17×; DOBROVODSKÁ 16×; ŽÁČKOVÁ 16×; ŠIŠOLÁK 15×; SPUSTA 15×; TEMER 15×; SUCHÁNEK 15×; VANIŠ 14×; BOGDALÍKOVÁ 14×; SALAY 14×; DOBROVODSKÝ 14×; ŽÁČEK 14×; HEFKOVÁ 13×; ORTH 13×; BURCL 13×; BOGDALÍK 13×; VLKOVÁ 13×; IRHA 13×; HOLLÁ 13×; HRUBÝ 12×; BUČKOVÁ 12×; ČERMÁK 11×; ORAVCOVÁ 11×; SLOBODOVÁ 11×; JURKOVIČOVÁ 11×; MARUŠKOVÁ 11×; PERNECKÁ 11×; ŠIŠOLÁKOVÁ 11×; ČERMÁKOVÁ 11×; HOLLÝ 11×; ŽVACHOVÁ 10×; SLOBODA 10×; KUNÁKOVÁ 10×; MŰLLEROVÁ 10×; KALNÝ 10×; KOVAROVIČ 10×; POLLÁKOVÁ 10×; HRUBÁ 10×; MRÁZOVÁ 9×; ŽALCOVÁ 9×; BURCLOVÁ 9×; KRŠKOVÁ 9×; ZEDNÍČEK 9×; ZAPLETALOVÁ 9×; KOVAROVIČOVÁ 9×; ZAPLETAL 9×; MARUŠKA 9×; KNOTEK 9×; ORAVEC 9×; VLK 8×; KRŠEK 8×; HEFKA 8×; ROZBORA 8×; ROZBOROVÁ 8×; IRHOVÁ 8×; DANIHEL 8×; KUJAN 8×; MRÁZ 8×; KUNÁK 8×; KUBÍČEK 8×; POLLÁK 8×; KUJANOVÁ 8×; NOVÁK 8×; BUČEK 8×; KNOTKOVÁ 8×; TEMEROVÁ 7×; ZELENKOVÁ 7×; ANDRLOVÁ 7×; HREBEŇOVÁ 7×; BARTOŠOVÁ 7×; SADOVSKÁ 7×; ADAMOVIČOVÁ 7×; BARTOŠ 7×; KALNÁ 7×; NOVÁKOVÁ 7×; HÁJEK 7×; BALÁŽ 7×; JURKÁČKOVÁ 7×; DANIHELOVÁ 6×; VIŠVADEROVÁ 6×; CHMELOVÁ 6×; HÁJKOVÁ 6×; ČENŠČÁK 6×; ČÁRSKY 6×; DOLEŽALOVÁ 6×, ... -----
obci JAKUBOV (okr. BRATISLAVA-VIDIEK) sa v roku 1995 nachádzali najčastejšie tieto priezviská: ŠIMEK 30×; ŠIMKOVÁ 28×; JURKÁČKOVÁ 25×; SIVÁK 24×; JURKÁČEK 24×; MARTINEC 21×; SIVÁKOVÁ 19×; MARTINCOVÁ 19×; PÁLKOVÁ 17×; KLÍMA 16×; MORAVČÍK 16×; KLÍMOVÁ 16×; FERENČÁKOVÁ 15×; FERENČÁK 15×; MRAVÍKOVÁ 15×; MORAVČÍKOVÁ 14×; PÁLKA 13×; REDENKOVIČOVÁ 12×; REDENKOVIČ 12×; AMBROVÁ 12×; LÍMOVÁ 12×; ORTH 11×; SLOBODA 11×; POLÁK 11×; DANČÍK 10×; MALINOVSKÝ 9×; MIKULÁŠEK 9×; ŠTUKOVÁ 9×; VÍCENOVÁ 9×; JANSKÝ 9×; JANSKÁ 9×; DANČÍKOVÁ 9×; DOLINA 9×; AMBRA 9×; ORTHOVÁ 8×; DOLINOVÁ 8×; HLADÍKOVÁ 8×; MRAVÍK 8×; SLOBODOVÁ 7×; MALINOVSKÁ 7×; VÍCEN 7×; KRAJČÍROVÁ 7×; ŠTUK 7×; ŠIBALÍK 7×; ŠIBALÍKOVÁ 7×; PUTÍK 7×; CHMELA 7×; POLÁKOVÁ 7×; HRUBÁ 7×; LÍM 7×; CHMELOVÁ 6×; KOVÁR 6×; BENKOVIČOVÁ 6×; MARTINUS 6×; SUROVIČ 6×; VRABLICOVÁ 6×; FRIŠLOVIČOVÁ 6×; KOPČA 6×; HLADÍK 6×; MOŠOVSKÁ 6×; MIKULÁŠKOVÁ 5×; PETRÁŠ 5×; MENDL 5×; PALKA 5×; KOVANIČOVÁ 5×; VICEN 5×; OSUSKÁ 5×; OŽVOLDOVÁ 5×; PUTÍKOVÁ 5×; LORENCOVIČ 5×; MENDLOVÁ 5×; PAJPACHOVÁ 5×; KLAS 5×; SPUSTOVÁ 5×; NOVÁKOVÁ 5×; ŠIMEKOVÁ 5×; REPISKÁ 5×; REPISKÝ 5×; KOVÁROVÁ 5×; MARTINUSOVÁ 5×; VICENOVÁ 5×; KAMENISTÝ 4×; KAMENISTÁ 4×; STRELECKÁ 4×; KOPČOVÁ 4×; MACKOVIČ 4×; BOROVKOVÁ 4×; KRČMA 4×; LORENCOVIČOVÁ 4×; PAJPACH 4×; BUKOVSKÁ 4×; ŠELCOVÁ 4×; KLČO 4×; FRIŠLOVIČ 4×; BENKOVIČ 4×; VOTROUBEK 4×; HORVÁTHOVÁ 4×; MALÍKOVÁ 4×; HORŇÁKOVÁ 4×; UHEREK 4×, ...

Re: Gajary, Jakubov, Slovakia

Posted: 28 Sep 2012 10:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for your useful information. I know nothing of the old country as I am doing this genealogy as a favor for a friend who knows nothing about her grandfather. I only used the information I had collected from the various legal forms. I know that there are errors on those forms because they were filled in by humans and we all make mistakes.
I will continue to search for Helen's last name. I have told my friend to check her death certificate for a maiden a name. I have tried the church records but I have found nothing...I will continue to search.
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