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Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 8 Nov 2012 8:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Nov 2012 1:47AM GMT
Surnames: Sandoe
I am the great grand daughter of RH Sandoe, who was killed in action on the 23rd April 1915. Most interested in this post as researching family history.

Re: Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 8 Nov 2012 11:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 Nov 2012 11:22PM GMT
Hi,
It might be helpful if you could give a little more information on RH SANDOE, such as parent names etc.

Is he Richard Henry SANDOE of the Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry?
If so you might be better off posting to the appropriate English board as your request is on the Australian board unless of course ther is an Australian connection?

Leanne

Re: Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 1:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Nov 2012 2:38AM GMT
This is on Ancestry also, on another thread re DIETZE

Evelina STANAWAY (daughter of John STANAWAY & Susannah GUY, b. LISKEARD, CORNWALL Sept qu 1871) marriage to Richard Henry SANDOE, registered PLYMOUTH, DEVONSHIRE, ENGLAND March quarter 1895

This birth to that couple in NSW (child died in 1896):
35773/1895 SANDOE ELSIE M / RICHARD H / EVELINE / PETERSHAM

Evelina STANAWAY (not SANDOE) marriage to August Robert Curt DIETZE registered NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA 1906

Richard Henry SANDOE (born TRURO, CORNWALL) marriage to Elizabeth Emily BURLACE registered PLYMOUTH, DEVONSHIRE, ENGLAND December quarter 1907


A Mrs E. Sandoe arrived in Sydney NSW aboard Oruba, as a 3rd class passenger from London 5th Oct 1895. Can't see Richard's arrival, unless he is the Mr Sandoe arriving in 1900 on Gabo! I guess it is possible she came alone (pregnant perhaps?), but she definitely stayed and made a new life for herself.

The Sydney Morning Herald, Thursday 24 April 1952
DIETZE Evelyna.-April 22, 1952, at her son's residence, 77 Hollywood Street, Kogarah, relict of August R. Dietze, loved mother of Joseph (K.I.A., 1918), Elsa (Mrs. McKenzie), Walter, Greta (Mrs Watts), and Conrad aged 80 years. Privately interred April 23, 1952, Methodist Cemetery, Rookwood.

The Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday 15 June 1929
BODY FOUND IN CAVE
KATOOMBA, Friday
The circumstances surrounding the death of August Robert Dietze, 68, who was found in a cave near Hazelbrook on Wednesday night were inquired into by the coroner at Katoomba to-day.
Walter Robert Dietze, son of the deceased stated that his father, a retired merchant who lived at Earlwood, recently returned from a world tour and had contemplated a trip to England or Germany this year. Witness said that his father loved wandering in the bush and often left home for that purpose. Dr. Alexander Allan, Government Medical Officer, stated that in his opinion death was due to heart disease, accentuated by the cold weather. The Coroner returned a finding of death due to natural causes.


Assume you are decended thru Richard & Elizabeth then...what info do you already have?

Looks like Richard aged 17 in 1881 census with mother Amelia (48) and brother Wm (7); he is an engine smith and they are in St Agnes, Cornwall. In 1871 he is aged 7, with mother Amelia (37, miners wife), in Truro, Cornwall; as SANDOW. In 1861 Amelia (26) is with husband Thomas (26, copper miner) and daughter Mary (3), same place, as SANDOE. All born St Agnes, Cornwall.

Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Martin Amelia Truro 5c 259
Sandoe Thomas Truro 5c 259

Re: Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 2:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Nov 2012 2:12AM GMT
This is interesting...

Dietze Joseph Henry [Sandoe Joseph Henry] : SERN Second Lieutenant 94 : POB Cornwall England : POE Sydney NSW : NOK F Dietze Robert

Written in red is SANDOE - True name. He was 20 and 8 months when he enlisted in Aug 1914 (though in Feb 1918 he is stated to be 24 and 7 months!) He was an engineer, Wesleyan...dark hair, eyes and complexion. Wounded in Gallipoli, then KIA Sept 1918.

The army advised that when a solider serves under an assumed name it is practice to put both names on the headstone, but his mother expressly requested that only Dietze be inscribed 'which name he adopted of his own free will'. There is also a letter written by Robert Dietze stating that Joseph is his stepson and son of his wife's first marriage.

Looks like he was born before his parents married?
Joseph Henry SANDOE's birth registered LISKEARD, CORNWALL March quarter 1894

Re: Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 2:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Wow mollipops,
Bit of a tangled web there,,,and it appears to get worse..LOL

Commonwealth War Graves Commission
SANDOE, RICHARD HENRY
Rank:Private
Service No:3/6070
Date of Death:23/04/1915
Age:45
Regiment/Service:Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry
"B" Coy. 2nd Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 20.
MemorialYPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of the late William and Mary Ann Sandoe; husband of Elizabeth Emily Hallett (formerly Sandoe), of 34, Ker St., Devonport.

SANDOE, JOSEPH HENRY
Rank:Second Lieutenant
Date of Death:18/09/1918
Age:24
Regiment/Service:Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
45th Bn.
Grave ReferenceIV. D. 6.
CemeteryBELLICOURT BRITISH CEMETERY
Additional Information:
(Served as DIETZE). Son of Evelina Dietze (formerly Sandoe), of View St., East Canterbury, New South Wales. Native of Liskeard, Cornwall, England.

Kellie

Re: Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 2:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hiyas,
Elizabeth Emily SANDOE married March quarter 1916 to Joseph C HALLETT at Devonport.

Kellie

Re: Richard Henry Sandoe

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 7:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Nov 2012 7:58PM GMT
Surnames: Sandoe
Wow, thanks for this. It confirms a lot I had already discovered.
Richard Henry Sandoe married Evelina E Stanaway on the 26th February 1885 ( I have the marriage certificate here ) so yes, Joseph Henry was born out of wedlock in 1894. Evelina was in service to a William and Sarah Warmack by the time of the 1891 census, this could have been when she met Richard?
So she married Richard on 26/02/1895 and by October 1895 was in NSW, Australia, not sure what went wrong there, seems strange to marry and be pregnant and then make a trip to the other side of the world without your husband..........and she would have been pregnant with Elsie Sandoe at this time.

Richard went on to marry Elizabeth Emily Burlace in 1907 and had 3 children - Evelina Annie in 1900, Violet Emily in 1901 and Lilian in 1903, who died at about a month old. So these 3 girls were born out of marriage too. Violet Emily was my grandmother.

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