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Looking for information - HOPWOOD Family

Looking for information - HOPWOOD Family

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 7:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hopwood, Byrnes, Bun, Callaghan
Hi,
I am wondering if anyone can help me out here.

I am looking for information on some ancestors of mine.

My great-great grandfather? was Henry Tasman (Tas) Hopwood who was married to a Phyllis Reilly b. 1865. They married at Bowral, NSW on 20/03/1895.

It seems that Henry had another family and that he was also with a woman by the name by the name of Margaret Byrnes b. 1882 in Maryborough, QLD.

Margaret Byrnes went on to marry at the age of 42 a man named Robert Story.

The information I am looking for is Margaret's parentage. I have her mother as named Winifred Callaghan who married a man named "Ah Bun". This si where I am stick. They had another daughter named Jane Bun. I can find no records for Ah Bun as maybe he was Asian?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out here :)

Re: Looking for information - HOPWOOD Family

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 3:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi there,

Can you tell us where you get the name Margaret BYRNES from?

Ah BUN and Winifred CALLAGHAN had a daughter named Catherine in 1882 in Queensland, and it was Catherine who married Robert STORY in 1927, also in Queensland. Catherine died in 1938. Her funeral notice names her as "Winifred Catherine STORY".

Queensland BDMs are free to search online, and you would need to purchase the birth cert of one of Winifred's children to find where Winifred and Ah Bun were born.

Debra

Re: HOPWOOD Family - Looking for information

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 3:15PM GMT
Classification: Query

Winifred AH BUN's death was registered QUEENSLAND 1934 - registration number: 1934/B24622.
Parents - Father: Patrick O'CALLAGHAN, Mother: Catherine CARR.
There were two AH BUN / BUN marriages in QUEENSLAND, neither were to BYRNES.
There is no Margaret BYRNES born 1882 QUEENSLAND, there were two Margaret BYRNE born 1882

Margaret Alice Cudmore BYRNE
Birth: 28/08/1882
Father: Michael
Mother: Margaret MGRATH


Margaret BYRNE
Birth: 19/09/1882
Father: Francis
Mother: Mary MORRISSY

Re: HOPWOOD Family - Looking for information

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 3:17PM GMT
Classification: Query

The Mother of the children to Henry Tasman HOPWOOD was Kathleen Winifred BYRNES, she shows on electoral rolls as Winifred
Kathleen STORY.
The children's birth certificates would have their Mother's birth details.



DEATH - QUEENSLAND

Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1916/C4591 Henry Tasman Hopwood Henry Hopwood Sophia Lucas



BIRTHS

Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1906/B11406 Henry George Edward Hopwood Henry Tasman Cathleen Winifred Byrnes
1908/B16095 Sidney Roy Hopwood Henry Tasman Kathleen Winifred Byrnes
1904/B8930 Tasman Leslie Hopwood Henry Tasman Margaret Byrnes
1914/C3813 William Allen Hopwood Henry Tasman Winifred Burns



DEATHS


Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1905/B5281 Leslie Tasman Hopwood Henry Tasman Hopwood Kathleen Winifred Byrnes
1927/B1019 Henry George Edward Hopwood Henry Tasman Kathleen Winifred Byrnes
1939/B43992 William Allen Hopwood Henry Tasman Winifred Byrnes
1915/C4461 Emily Mary Hopwood Henry Tasman Hopwood Winifred Byrnes


Re: Looking for information - HOPWOOD Family

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 3:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 Jan 2013 4:14PM GMT

Hi " gypsylee8" & "dj72green",
It seems Catherine may have used the name BYRNES rather than BUN.

BIRTHS


Catherine BUN
Birth: 01/03/1882
Father: Ah
Mother: Winifred CALLAGHAN
Reg. No.: 1882 / 004396


Jane BUN
Birth: 29/01/1884
Father: Ah
Mother: Winifred CALLAGHAN
Reg. No.: 1884 / 005375

Mary Jane Doyle O'CALLAGHAN
Birth: 11/01/1877
Father: -
Mother: Winifred O'CALLAGHAN
Reg. No.: 1877 / B021565


Mary Anne Nuey O'CALLAGHAN
Birth: 29/09/1879
Father: -
Mother: Winifred O'CALLAGHAN
Reg. No.: 1879 / 002681

MARRIAGE

Name: Winifred HACKER
Spouse: Ah Bun
Date: 08/09/1881
Registration number: 1881 / 000879


Name: Winifred HACKER
Spouse: Bun
Date: 08/09/1881
Registration number: 1881 / 000879


MARRIAGE

Name: Winifred O'CALLAGHAN
Spouse: James AH KOY
Date: 10/11/1879
Registration number: 1879 / 000449

Name: Winifred O'CALLAGHAN
Spouse: James KOY
Date: 10/11/1879
Registration number: 1879 / 000449


DEATH

Spouse: James AH KOY
Date: 24/11/1880
Father: Thomas AH KOY
Mother: Bridget AH TING
Registration number: 1880 / 000829

Spouse: James KOY
Date: 24/11/1880
Father: Thomas AH KOY
Mother: Bridget AH TING
Registration number: 1880 / 000829


Re: Looking for information - HOPWOOD Family

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 3:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
I see that the children of Henry Tasman HOPWOOD have a mother named as Kathleen Winifred and Winifred, and one is Margaret. This may just be a mistake or perhaps she was using an alias. The use of the BYRNES name was perhaps to hide her Chinese background? She may have had children from another relationship and was passing herself off as a widow? I do not see a previous marriage for her at the moment.

Very curious that there is also another marriage for a Winifred AH KIE (Hacker?) to a Thomas BUN IN 1881. Then there is a previous marriage of a Winifred O'CALLAGHAN to a James AH KOY in 1878. I would not be surprised if all of these were your Winifred.

Debra

Re: HOPWOOD Family - Looking for information

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 4:59PM GMT
Classification: Query

The surname Catherine used for her 1927 marriage is almost the same as her sister's father-in-law's Christian name - Alban ATWOOD (Father of John Jones ATWOOD.


MARRIAGE

Reg # Marriage Party Surname Marriage Party Given Name(s) Marriage Party Surname Marriage Party Given Name(s)
1927/C2338 Albunn Catherine Story Robert



Family Notices
The Courier-Mail (Brisbane, Qld. : 1933 - 1954) Saturday 14 May 1938 Section: Second Section. p 12 Family Notices


STORY, Mrs. Winifred C— The Funeral of Mrs.Winifred Catherine Story (of No. 11 Spring Street, Valley) will move from the Funeral Chapel, Wickham Street, Valley, This (Saturday) Afternoon, at 1 o'clock, to South Brisbane Cemetery. Private Interment. K. M. SMITH.


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Winifred Kathleen Story
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Queensland
District: Brisbane
Subdistrict: Fortitude Valley



Name: Winifred Kathleen Story
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1937
State: Queensland
District: Brisbane
Subdistrict: Fortitude Valley




DEATHS

Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1913/C2260 Ah Bun Ah Bun


Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1934/B24622 Winifred Ah Bun


Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1890/C3504 Catherine O'Callaghan - - ** born Ireland aged 40 years married to Patrick O'Callaghan


Date: 09/02/1890



MARRIAGE

Name: Mary Annie O'CALLAGHAN
Date: 02/05/1891
Spouse: William Henry MONTGOMERIE
Reg. No.: 1891 / 000446

MARRIAGE

Name: Mary Jane Doyle O'CALLAGHAN
Date: 05/03/1900
Spouse: John Jones ATTWOOD
Reg. No.: 1900 / B000150



BIRTHS

Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1892/C2758 Elsie Maud Montgomerie William Henry Mary Annie O'Callaghan



Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1912/B27550 Cyril John Atwood John Jones Mary Jane Doyle Callaghan
1903/C3358 Dorothy Dylis Ivy Atwood John Jones Mary Jane Doyle O'Callaghan
1901/B2338 Mary Winifred Eliza Atwood John Jones Mary Jane Doyle O'Callaghan
1906/B13358 Royston Jones Atwood John Jones Mary Jane Doyle O'Callaghan




DEATHS


Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1927/C1215 Mary Anne Montgomerie



Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1940/C241 William Henry Montgomerie



Reg # Given Names Surname Father's Name Mother's Name
1938/B41141 John Jones Atwood Alban Eliza George




BIRTH

Surname: ATWOOD
Given Names: John Jones
Event: BIRTH
Father: Alban ATWOOD
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eliza Rebecca GEORGE
Birth Place: BALLARAT, VICTORIA
Year: 1865
Reg Number: 643

Re: HOPWOOD Family - Looking for information

Posted: 23 Jan 2013 5:44PM GMT
Classification: Query

You may have to check the marriages; the marriage for Winifred AH KIE is curious, that is the same year but after the marriage of Winifred HACKER / Ah BUN marriage.
Catherine & Jane's births have Ah BUN as being their Father.


MARRIAGE

Name: Winifred AH KIE
Spouse: Thomas BUN
Date: 03/10/1881
Registration number: 1881 / 000502

Name: Winifred KIE
Spouse: Thomas BUN
Date: 03/10/1881
Registration number: 1881 / 000502

Re: HOPWOOD Family - Looking for information

Posted: 24 Jan 2013 2:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi all and thanks for your esponses, very much appreciated. I think this is why I gave up looking my family tree up a couple of years back (and the fact that I cannot get anywhere with my great grandfather on my mums side as he was adopted).

The information I have (cant remember where I got it from now) is this:

Henry (Tas) was not divorced from Phyllis. He never married Margaret/Winifred Byrnes.
Her birth name is Catherine Bun.
Henry's relationship with this lady is first noted with the birth of their first child, Tasman Leslie, in July 1904. On the birth and death certificates for their 7 children, she is known variously as Winifred Byrne, Kathleen Winifred Byrnes, Winifred Byrnes, Margaret Byrnes, The Eagle Farm Cemetery has a grave containing Henry Tasman Hopwood and 3 of his children with Margaret Byrnes plus Winifred C. Story who was buried on 14 May 1938. The Dutton Park/South Brisbane Index to Monumental Inscriptions names her as Winifred Catherine Hopwood, who died on 13 May 1938. No-one with a surname Byrnes or Hopwood died on that day. However, Catherine Story died on 13 May 1938. She was the daughter of Ah Bun and Winifred Callaghan, who were married on 8 September 1881. Catherine Bun was born on 1 March 1882.
Catherine Story's death certificate (1938/039537), states that her parents were Ah Bun and Winifred Callaghan, that she was a widow aged 56. She married Robert Story (probably deceased) when she was 45, circa 1927. Her 4 extant children are named plus 1female and 2 males deceased. These are the 7 children she and Henry had. Her daughter Grace Hoveling of 17 Spring Street, Fortitude Valley was an informant.

Commonwealth Electoral Roll (Queensland) 1913
Name: Winifred Hopwood Place of Living: McLennan st., Albion Occupation: home duties Gender: F Division: Windsor Sub Division: Lilley Number: 2818.00
Commonwealth Electoral Roll (Queensland) 1922
Name: Winifred Hopwood Place of Living: Spring st., Valley Occupation: home duties Gender: F Division: Fortitude Valley Sub Division: Brisbane Number: 2717

Re: HOPWOOD Family - Looking for information

Posted: 24 Jan 2013 3:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
It is so confusing that she had so many names. And now there is Ah Kie and Hacker as well.....I am totally lost :/
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