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Problems finding a birth

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 6:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 Oct 2012 6:40AM GMT
I need some help

My grandfathers brother
I'm having trouble finding any birth record for him as in year

Vincent sampsn Byrd
I know when he died and his date and month of birth but not the year

Re: Problems finding a birth

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 1:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Jess,

Have you searched the BDM Registry for Victoria? Their online indexes seem to be broken at the moment so I cannot check. I see from your tree that his parents married in 1920 - if he was born after 1924 then that record will not be publically available as there are privacy restrictions.

He may have been a little younger than is recorded on his death cert, it depends on who the informant was and how well they knew him.


Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 6:37PM GMT
Classification: Query

Name: Vincent Sampson Byrd
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Victoria
District: Maribyrnong
Subdistrict: Moonee Ponds
Vincent, a wood worker, is with Samuel William A BYRD, a gardener and Daisy Victoria BYRD at 27 Walker St

Service was conducted at Fawkner Memorial Park for
Vincent Samson BYRD Age : 71 on the 18-October-1994

Service: Cremation
Location: 2nd Ave New Rosebeds Positions Bed D Position 45A.

you may have this, but in case not:

Name: William Albert Byrd
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire


Name: Samson BYRD
Date of departure: 12 February 1914
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1893 (calculated from age)
Age: 21
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 27
Capt.J F Healey
Shipping Line: Orient
Where Bound: Australia

Samson's sister was Sarah Frances BYRD and was living with her elderly aunt Sarah Ann BYRD in 1911 :Street Address: The Ashlands, Moss Pit, Stafford

She married 1922:

Name: Sarah F Byrd
Spouse: Frank Idiens
Marriage: Mar 1922 - Stafford, Staffordshire
Other: QJan-Jan-Feb-Mar 1922

Name: Saran Frances Idiens
Birth: 26 Jul 1888
Death: Jun 1975 - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

Name: Frank Idiens
Birth: abt 1888
Death: Mar 1962 - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

WW1 record:
Name: Frank Idiens
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Age at enlistment: 28
Residence: Talbot Rd, Stafford
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 226644
Regiment Name: RE RCC
Number of images: 32
Occ; Surveyor

a son:
Name: Geoffrey F Idiens
Mother: Byrd
Birth: Mar 1923 - Westbury S, Shropshire

Name: Geoffrey Frank Idiens
Birth: 6 Feb 1923
Death: Oct 1985 - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, England

also found Emily's death:

Name: Emily Byrd
Birth: abt 1866
Death: Jun 1929 - Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England

Emily was a servant for a clergyman in Warwickshire, in 1911
Parish: Upper Ipsley Address: 26 Beoley Road Redditch
County: Warwickshire

You might be able to get some more details for Vincent's birth via the Funeral company or cemetery, assuming you aren't able to buy the birth cert.


Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 2:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the info
I didn't have the first part of the info

But did the rest

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 2:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Oct 2012 11:54AM GMT
I cannot see a birth registered for Vincent or his brother Charles before 1924 under the surname BYRD. How sure are you that they were ̶S̶a̶m̶u̶e̶l̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶D̶o̶r̶i̶s̶'̶s̶ Sampson and Daisy's natural children?


Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 8:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Who r Samuel and Doris ??

My grandparents are Jeanette and Charles

Charles brother is Vincent

The one I'm looking for

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 11:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
The reason I added the other info was because I found your tree online and you didn't have it on there


Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 11:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry, I have no idea who they are either, I must have been speaking in tongues!

I meant to say Sampson and Daisy, parents of Charles and Vincent. At least I got their initials right.


Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 1:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Lol that u did

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 1:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Oct 2012 2:01AM GMT
Have you seen Sampson's WWI enlistment, aged 22 and 9 months in July 1915? States father deceased, mother living at Ashlands, Moss Pit, Stafford.

Byrd Sampson William Albert : SERN 3260 : POB Stafford England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK M Byrd Emily

Record is digitised at NAA Recordsearch.

I think 'Daisy Byrd' is a wonderful name! From Trove:

The Argus, Friday 17 December 1954
BYRD.-On December 16, at a private hospital, Daisy, beloved wife of Sam Byrd, of 27 Walker street, Moonee Ponds, loving mother of Ted and Vin, mother-in-law of Jean and loving grandmother of Robert, Lorna and Graeme, aged 63 years. -At rest.

So Charles Edward must have been known to family as 'Ted'

All buried at Fawkner.
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