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Problems finding a birth

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 6:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 Oct 2012 6:40AM GMT
I need some help

My grandfathers brother
I'm having trouble finding any birth record for him as in year


Vincent sampsn Byrd
I know when he died and his date and month of birth but not the year


Re: Problems finding a birth

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 1:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Jess,

Have you searched the BDM Registry for Victoria? Their online indexes seem to be broken at the moment so I cannot check. I see from your tree that his parents married in 1920 - if he was born after 1924 then that record will not be publically available as there are privacy restrictions.

He may have been a little younger than is recorded on his death cert, it depends on who the informant was and how well they knew him.

Debra

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 6:37PM GMT
Classification: Query


Name: Vincent Sampson Byrd
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Victoria
District: Maribyrnong
Subdistrict: Moonee Ponds
Vincent, a wood worker, is with Samuel William A BYRD, a gardener and Daisy Victoria BYRD at 27 Walker St

Service was conducted at Fawkner Memorial Park for
Vincent Samson BYRD Age : 71 on the 18-October-1994

Service: Cremation
Location: 2nd Ave New Rosebeds Positions Bed D Position 45A.
Funeral Director: JOSEPH ALLISON FUNERALS (ESSENDON)

http://www.fcmp.com.au/index.asp?page=deceasedstandard.asp


you may have this, but in case not:

Name: William Albert Byrd
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire

also:

Name: Samson BYRD
Date of departure: 12 February 1914
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1893 (calculated from age)
Age: 21
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 27
Ship:ORSOVA
128278
Capt.J F Healey
Shipping Line: Orient
Where Bound: Australia

Samson's sister was Sarah Frances BYRD and was living with her elderly aunt Sarah Ann BYRD in 1911 :Street Address: The Ashlands, Moss Pit, Stafford

She married 1922:

Name: Sarah F Byrd
Spouse: Frank Idiens
Marriage: Mar 1922 - Stafford, Staffordshire
Other: QJan-Jan-Feb-Mar 1922

and
Name: Saran Frances Idiens
Birth: 26 Jul 1888
Death: Jun 1975 - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

Name: Frank Idiens
Birth: abt 1888
Death: Mar 1962 - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

WW1 record:
Name: Frank Idiens
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Age at enlistment: 28
Residence: Talbot Rd, Stafford
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 226644
Regiment Name: RE RCC
Number of images: 32
Occ; Surveyor

a son:
Name: Geoffrey F Idiens
Mother: Byrd
Birth: Mar 1923 - Westbury S, Shropshire

Name: Geoffrey Frank Idiens
Birth: 6 Feb 1923
Death: Oct 1985 - Cirencester, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, England

also found Emily's death:

Name: Emily Byrd
Birth: abt 1866
Death: Jun 1929 - Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England

Emily was a servant for a clergyman in Warwickshire, in 1911
Parish: Upper Ipsley Address: 26 Beoley Road Redditch
County: Warwickshire

You might be able to get some more details for Vincent's birth via the Funeral company or cemetery, assuming you aren't able to buy the birth cert.

Cheers
Jocelyn

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 2:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the info
I didn't have the first part of the info

But did the rest

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 2:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Oct 2012 11:54AM GMT
I cannot see a birth registered for Vincent or his brother Charles before 1924 under the surname BYRD. How sure are you that they were ̶S̶a̶m̶u̶e̶l̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶D̶o̶r̶i̶s̶'̶s̶ Sampson and Daisy's natural children?

Debra

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 8:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Who r Samuel and Doris ??

My grandparents are Jeanette and Charles

Charles brother is Vincent

The one I'm looking for

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 11:32AM GMT
Classification: Query
The reason I added the other info was because I found your tree online and you didn't have it on there

Cheers
Jocelyn

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 11:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry, I have no idea who they are either, I must have been speaking in tongues!

I meant to say Sampson and Daisy, parents of Charles and Vincent. At least I got their initials right.

Debra

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 1:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Lol that u did

Re: Problems finding a birth- BYRD

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 1:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Oct 2012 2:01AM GMT
Have you seen Sampson's WWI enlistment, aged 22 and 9 months in July 1915? States father deceased, mother living at Ashlands, Moss Pit, Stafford.

Byrd Sampson William Albert : SERN 3260 : POB Stafford England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK M Byrd Emily

Record is digitised at NAA Recordsearch.

I think 'Daisy Byrd' is a wonderful name! From Trove:

The Argus, Friday 17 December 1954
BYRD.-On December 16, at a private hospital, Daisy, beloved wife of Sam Byrd, of 27 Walker street, Moonee Ponds, loving mother of Ted and Vin, mother-in-law of Jean and loving grandmother of Robert, Lorna and Graeme, aged 63 years. -At rest.

So Charles Edward must have been known to family as 'Ted'

All buried at Fawkner.
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