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Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Posted: 23 Mar 2002 4:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Oct 2005 2:59AM GMT
Surnames: Sutherland
I thought this was THE posting but, alas, no Robert. Father and mother unknown. My (5Greats) grandfather, b. 1755 in or near Wick, Scotland.
He joined the 42nd Highland Regmnt in Wick 1775 and came to America. m. Elizabeth ? After the Revolution settled near Oromocto, New Brunswick 1783.
Children:
*Robert, Jr. m. Nancy Ann McCleod
George
Anyone?

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Posted: 23 Mar 2002 6:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Oct 2005 2:59AM GMT
There is considerable information on Robert Sutherland, Sr. and his family in William MacKinnon's book, "Over the Portage" and in "Nashwaak Families 1785-1885" by the Nashwaak Bicentenial Assn. There is also info on the family of Nancy MacLeod who married Robert, Jr. Her father, Roderick MacLeod, Jr. was also in the 42nd Highland Regiment. I am related through Margaret Sutherland, daughter of Robert, Sr., who married Duncan MacKay. I'm not sure what info you have but I'd be glad to trade, either here or by email at storkrn@msn.com.

Regards, Sharyn Hay

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Linda Ann Hirtle (View posts)
Posted: 23 Mar 2002 6:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Oct 2005 3:00AM GMT
Surnames: Sutherland
Hi Sharyn:

Yes, Robert Sutherland Jr.'s father Robert b. 1810 was a brother to my Great-Great Grandfather John Sutherland b. 1815.
William (father to Robert and John) I have as being in the 71st Highland Regiment in 1775 under the command of Simon Fraser.
I would love to have your history on Robert etc.

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Posted: 25 Mar 2002 2:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Oct 2005 3:03AM GMT
I would be interested to know where the information comes from that Robert Sutherland, Sr. settled near Oromocto, NB in 1783. The reason I am asking, is that he was discharged from the military Sept. 28, 1783 at Paul's Hook, NJ (PANB Archives). He then went to NB and settled on the Nashwaak (Lot 146, Dugald Campbell grant). In 1795 he petitioned for more land on the upper Nashwaak. In his will, he still owned lot 146, which his widow sold to John Sutherland (York County registry of Deeds, Book 4, p. 11, F5618, PANB). Oromoncto is southeast of the Nashwaak along the St. John's River on the 1880 map I have. The two locations are close by river travel, but not close enough for this to be a likely place for him to have settled if he owned land further north.

For anyone else interested, Robert and Elizabeth (Elsabet) had 3 children:

Robert, Jr. m. Ann MacLeod
Margaret m. Duncan MacKay (one of my 2 Sutherland lines)
George, who was murdered Sept 13 1825 in St. Mary's Parish

From MacKinnon's book: Robert Sutherland (Jr) first drew a lot along the Nashwaak which, by 1795, he found "insufficient for the support of the numerous and increasing family." (Ref: PANB, RG10 RS108, Robert Sutherland, 1795) Sutherland's was a part of the 42nd Highland Regiment allotment, these lots being noted for small acreage. In 1809, Robert was granted lots 80 & 81 and Island 28 along the south side of the Miramichi River but there is no evidence he occupied the land. Robert and Nancy sold these lots in 1811 to a George Sutherland (PANB Archives). He married Nancy Ann McLeod (b. 1785) and possible children are Anne (1814), Margaret, and unnamed others. He died in 1814-1815, possibly at St. Mary's. nancy Ann then married John Casey and had a daughter, Sarah (1819-1906) who married James Young.

Children of Robert Sutherland, Jr. and Nancy are:

Margaret (1806-1888)
Roderick (died young)
Charles m. Margaret Cameron
James m. Hannah Stephenson (emigrated to USA)
Ann (1815-1902) m. Patrick (Peter) McNabb
(Two other children died young of diptheria)

If anyone else is following this line, I'd love to hear from you. I am also researching the line (from the same area) of John Sutherland (1741) m. Abigail Sewell and settled in Taymouth.

Regards, Sharyn Hay

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Linda Ann Hirtle (View posts)
Posted: 25 Mar 2002 2:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Oct 2005 3:04AM GMT
Sharon:
Your Robert Sr. and Robert Jr. from N.B. are not the lineage of my Sutherlands who ended up in Cape Breton after the revolutionary war.
But you do not state who Robert Sr.'s father was or if they were originally from Papigoe, close to Wick, Caithness, Scotland.
I am still interested in tracing the Richmond Co., Cape Breton Sutherlands back farther into Scotland.
Thanks.

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

sue mcintosh (View posts)
Posted: 9 Jun 2002 3:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Oct 2005 3:04AM GMT
Surnames: Campbell
sorry the date for his sons birth should be 5/12/1870 name david son of william sutherland and janet (jessie) campbell of papigoe wick caithness

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Posted: 10 Oct 2005 3:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Dec 2006 12:09PM GMT
Surnames: Sutherland
To clarify for those who are still seeking - William SUTHERLAND of the 71st Highland Regiment is not the father of the Robert SUTHERLAND of the 42nd Highland Regiment. They did end up living near each other after they emigrated to Canada.

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Dennis Sutherland (View posts)
Posted: 10 Oct 2005 9:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Sutherland
Okay, so that narrows it down to say .... 10,000 other possibles? <grin>

Re: Robert Sutherland b. 1755, Wick, SCT

Posted: 19 Jan 2014 1:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Jan 2014 3:09PM GMT
Surnames: Sutherland Stewart Thain
Sharyn
Hope you still get this thread.
YDNA matches my Caithness Scotand family to 2 Canadian SUTHERLAND families who have also tested and their results match are 1 step from each other .
They were in NB Maine etc
and may or may not be sons of a George who was in 42nd reg.
The earliest proven on one of the Canadian lines is James 1787 app in Nashwaak m Abigail Stewart ?
and on other is Robert b c 1810/11 Clemons, Washington NY married Elizabeth Thain.
BOTH these families are well documented to living but they have a George SUTHERLAND b c 1731 north of Scotland, who served 42nd Reg as the father. I need more proof as a son in 1787 and then last son 1810/11 to a man born 1731. ??
Possibilities a) George Snr was not b 1731 but c 1750s b) Robert c 1810 was a grandson c) George was married later to a younger woman able to have child 1810.
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