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Taraba

Posted: 26 Mar 2007 4:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Please help........I would appreciate it if anyone out there can tell me if they recognize the last name Taraba and if they know anything about the origin of the name.

Thank you in adance.

Re: Taraba

Posted: 26 Mar 2007 9:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
ddsevens

Not researching this surname. Have a question. What documents do you have that suggest Austria? A map of Austria of old: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm
You need to locate a precise place of birth among the US documents to proceed with the research over the big water.
54 TARABAs came thru Ellis Island to America. Could your ancestor be among them? www.ellisislandrecords.org
I find TARABA in Poland, in Slovak Republic, in Czech Republic. Do you know what language was spoken by your ancestor?

Re: Taraba

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 4:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hope you are still on here...My great grandfather was a Taraba. He came from Czechoslavakia in the late 1800's. He settled in Wisconsin and then part of the family moved to Missouri...willing to share what info I have..Denise

Re: Taraba

Posted: 30 Aug 2012 10:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Faeryrose,

Thank you for your reply. Gosh, I am so surprised that I have found anyone with the last name. Not sure if you are aware but the name is TARAMBANIS in Greek and as far as I know the family was someplace very close to the borders of Greece and Yugoslavia (changed now of course.) And that is where I have begun the hunt. The fact that your name is so very close in spelling is worthy of investigating. Last place that I found anyone with similar spelling (TARABAN) was at the borders of Italy and Austria. Would you tell me a bit about your name?

Re: Taraba

Posted: 31 Aug 2012 9:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TARABA
TARABA ( Turkish) means low wooden fence around the property or courtyard. The word migrated to Serbian language early on during the Ottoman rule and is still pretty much in use in same meaning

surname TARABA is found among ethnic Croats in Bosnia, and derived surname TARABIĆ is found among ethnic Serbs in Croatia, as well as all over Serbia proper.

For the variant in Greek language - etymology and any possible connection needs to be investigated - many Slavic surnames were added suffixation typical fro Greek language in the Kosovo/Macedonia areas in XVIII and even XIX century due to the fact that the Eastern Orthodox priests and monks who kept the church vital records were Greek.

As there was a significant Serbian/ south Slavic population for instance in Slovakia as early as 1511. when the seal of the Serbian Church district was registered in Komarno - It had around 8000 Serbs living in it at the time, that may be the contact point which provided the transfer of surname over there.

att: a typical *taraba* fence in Serbia



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Re: Taraba

Posted: 31 Aug 2012 10:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Oh, my gosh!! I never thought to look up the word in Turkish. Thank you so much for the info. Now I have another avenue to follow.

Re: Taraba

Posted: 31 Aug 2012 10:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 31 Aug 2012 11:40AM GMT
Surnames: TARABA
Glad to have been of assistance. :)

- as general pointers I wrote this for surnames of people from eastern Europe / Slavic origin:

Things to be confirmed before you can research etymology of a surname:

1. original spelling of the surname in the native language of your ancestors

2. original spelling of the surname for the period when your ancestors were born in their place of origin ( this will in many cases differ from 1. due to foreign languages that were used as official language)

3. ethnic and religious affiliation of your ancestors


then you can proceed to


4. trace the family within the vital and other records in the community of origin for as far back as they exist

5. trace the surname/family/clan/community through earlier migrations and origin in historical sources


It is always a nice chapter of family and surname history to document all places around the globe where it is found.

Surnames that are same or similar in Eastern Europe:

-can be the consequence of pan-Slavic root word from which they were created and similar formation patterns :

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:List_of_Proto-Slavic_...

-common foreign language of origin of the root word:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loanword#Loanword_transmission_...


- documented migrations of specific ethnic groups to very distant parts of Europe from their country of origin:

http://republic-of-macedonia.jimdo.com/macedonian_polk_in_uk...

-sheer linguistic coincidence:

http://www.zompist.com/chance.htm

Consider all of the above possibilities before connecting two same/similar surnames in two localities/among different ethnic groups.

And most importantly - as the language contact was so immense, never assume that just because the etymological root word of a surname is from a particular language that the origin of the people who carry that or any surname derived from it are/were of that same ethnicity - things are not that simple when it comes to onomastics. :)






"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
http://www.rodoslovlje.com/en

Re: Taraba

Posted: 1 Sep 2012 12:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. My Tarabas come from Bohemia which is now the Czech Republic. My gg grandfather was James Taraba. He came from the Tabor region of Bohemia. Was born in 1860. The family settled in Mauston, Wisconsin and later moved to Bethany, Missouri. He married a Mary Magdoline Pomazal who also came from Bohemia.

Re: Taraba

Posted: 1 Sep 2012 5:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Asking relatives for information that dates past 20th centtury is bad enough. Most families in Greece paid very little attention this type of information. And it was all word-of-mouth information.

Therefore am I presuming when I look up this name? I am not sure. It is worthy to note the similarities in it.
Starting with Tarambanis=Greek, Taramban=Italian, Taraba=Euro/Slavic. As you said, names can change over time and in special situations. Where to go from here, I am not sure.

I just wonder how many people do some other forms of testing so see if certain people are related? For example blood test, etc.

Thank you again for your time. It is truly appreciated.

Re: Taraba

Posted: 1 Sep 2012 1:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Sep 2012 2:08PM GMT
"att: a typical *taraba* fence in Serbia"

interesting, was/is also usual in the Alps, high-up in the mountains in this way, specially in South-Tyrol, since 1919 italian.
same and similar ones > Flechtzäune/Wattle fence

Geflochtene Weidezäune
Unter anderem werden in Südtirol noch die traditionellen Flechtzäune aus Weidenholz verwendet.Hier eine kleine Auswahl der verschiedenen Formen dieser wunderbaren Handwerkskunst.Beim geflochtenen Speltenzaun, auch als "Gert'nzaun" oder "Flochtzaun" bekannt, werden die in den Boden gerammten Spelten (senkrechte Zaunhölzer) mit Fichtenästen oder Weide-bändern an die von Säulen getragenen Querlatten gebunden.
Woven fences
Among other South Tyrol still uses the traditional wattle made ​​of willow wood. Here is a small selection of the different forms of this wonderful craftsmanship. When braided Speltenzaun, also known as "Gert'nzaun" or "wove fence" known to be driven into the ground the Spelten (vertical wood fence) with spruce boughs or grazing bands of the columns supported crossbars bound.
http://www.kameraschaetze.de/CMS/index.php/fotogalerie/flech...
http://de.fotolia.com/id/14876972
http://www.pitopia.de/scripts/pictures/detail.php?pid=207606...
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