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Crank/Newell Family

Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 2 Jul 2013 2:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Sep 2013 1:19PM GMT
Surnames: Crank, Newell
I am trying to find information on my GGrandmother's (Alma Irene Jones) maternal grandparents, most likely of Carter County, KY. Her mother was Ruby Ethel Crank, born around 1902 in Kentucky. Her father was Estel Grant Jones. I am having difficulty finding information on Ruby's parents.

Ruby's father was Andy/Andrew Crank, born around 1876 to William Crank in Kentucky. Ruby's mother is listed as Manerva/Minerva/Nerva Newell. She was born Oct. 3, 1883 in Grahn, Kentucky but I've found other records that say she was born in 1880. Her death record says she died on Jan. 19, 1933. Her mother's name is listed as Martha(?) and her father's name as M. Newell.

My GGrandmother always spoke of how some members of her family were of Cherokee descent. I'm not sure which family members though.

Please let me know if you have any information on any of my family members. Thanks!

Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 2 Jul 2013 7:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.


1900 -
Name: Andy Crank
Age: 24
Birth Date: Mar 1876
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1900: Brodhead, Rockcastle, Kentucky
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Manervy Crank
Marriage Year: 1897
Years Married: 3
Father's Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky
Occupation:

Andy Crank 24, 3/76 KY
Manervy Crank 20, 2/80 KY - no children



1910 -
Name: Andy Crank
[Andy Cromk]
Age in 1910: 34
Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Magisterial District 3 Precinct 10, Rockcastle, Kentucky
Race: Mulatto <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nearvy Crank
Father's Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky

Andy Crank 34, KY - mulatto, married 9 yrs
Nearvy Crank 26, KY - white, 4 children & 2 living
Elza Crank 8, KY - mulatto [1902]
Ethel Crank 3, KY - mulatto [1907]


1920 -
Name: Ruby Crank
Age: 13
Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1920: Court House, Carter, Kentucky
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Andy Crank
Father's Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Nerva Crank
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Andy Crank 43, KY - carpenter
Nerva Crank 37, KY
Ruby Crank 13, KY
Stella Crank 5, KY
Opal Crank 3, KY

Ruby is Elza in the 1910 census.


1930 -
Name: Nervy Crank
[Nery Crank]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Kentucky
Race: White
Home in 1930: Logan, Logan, West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Andrew Crank
Father's Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky
Occupation:
Age at first marriage: 15
Parents' birthplace: KY/KY

Andrew Crank 45, KY - Age at first marriage: 22
Parents' birthplace: KY/KY [1885], coal miner, Veteran of Spanish American War
Nervy Crank 44, KY
Opal Crank 15, KY
Viola Crank 7, WV

1940 -


West Virginia, Marriages Index, 1785-1971
Name: Opal Crank
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1915
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Bunker Cooper
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Age: 22
Marriage Date: 17 Jan 1936
Marriage Place: Boone, West Virginia
Father's Name: Andy Crank
Mother's Name: Minerva Crank
Spouse Father's Name: Leonard Cooper
Spouse Mother's Name: Maude Cooper


Kentucky, Death Records, 1852-1953
Name: Nerva Crank
[Nerva Newell]
Death Date: 19 Jan 1933
Death Location: Floyd
Gender: Female
Ethnicity: White
Birth Location: Grahn, Kentucky
Spouse's Name: Andy Crank
Father's Name: M Newell
Father's Birth Location: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Martha
Mother's Birth Location: Kentucky


U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Andy Crank
County: Carter
State: Kentucky
Birth Date: 1 Mar 1875
Race: White
married = Manerva


West Virginia, Marriages Index, 1785-1971
Name: Andy Crank
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1875
Age: 61
Spouse's Name: Mary Warden
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Age: 58
Marriage Date: 1 May 1936
Marriage Place: Boone, West Virginia
Father's Name: Will Crank
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Crank

Need DOB + birthplace for Estel Grant Jones
Need DOB + birthplace for Alma Irene Jones

Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 2 Jul 2013 9:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Estel Grant Jones was born in 1901, possibly in Tennessee.

Alma Irene Jones was born 24 Sept 1924 in Logan County, WV.

I'm curious as to why Andy Crank has mulatto written next to his name in one instance.

Thank you!

Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 3 Jul 2013 11:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
RE: Mulatto reference
It's the perception of the census taker. If Andy was dark skinned [deeply tanned] the census taker may have thought he was mulatto.

1930, 1940 - Alma [b. 1924, WV] is not listed in WV.

1930, 1940 - Estel Grant Jones is not listed

Need a date of death for Alma and Estel Jones.

Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 3 Jul 2013 12:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Alma was my great grandmother. She died July 12, 2011 in Bel Air, Maryland. Her married name was Alma Irene McNeely.

I'm having a hard time finding more information on Estel. He married Ruby Crank in Boone, WV on 20 Nov 1923. I believe his father was Charles W Jones and his mother was Ida Holland. Both were born in Tennessee.


Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 1 Aug 2013 1:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Crank, Newell
Hello again- I am trying to solve a bit of a mystery about Minerva Newell's parents.


Her husband, Andrew's, sister, Eliza Ellen Crank, was born around 1878. She married William Newel in 1898. He was born in Jan 1878 in KY. They had a son, William, who was born in 1899, died in 1918.


I am wondering if William Newel could have been Minerva's brother. The 1900 census shows William/Eliza living about one house away from Andrew/Minerva. I have been unable to figure out William Newel's parents, but I'm speculating that it may have been Porter Newel and Martha Crank.



Minerva's death certificate lists "Mr. Newell" as her father and "Martha ?" as her mother. Could Porter and Martha be her parents? She is not listed on any of their records- however, she was born in the 1880s, the fire of 1890 probably destroyed her birth record, and she was married to/living with Andrew Crank by the 1900 census.

Any help would be appreciated! Thank you in advance.

Sarah

Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 1 Aug 2013 2:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Have U tried -

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Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 1 Aug 2013 3:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.


WV has no record of Alma Irene Jones being born 24 Sept 1924 in Logan County, WV. IS Jones her married or maiden name ??



Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 1 Aug 2013 3:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much. Jones is her maiden name, McNeely is her married name. I did find her birth record on ancestry.com - her middle name was misspelled. Alma Ireine Jones.

Re: Crank/Newell Family

Posted: 1 Aug 2013 4:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.



WHERE was this family living in 1900?? = county/state

WHERE was William Jr. born = state.

KY Vital Records -
From the Office of Vital Statistics website….
“Central registration of marriages and divorces began in Kentucky in June 1958. The Office of Vital Statistics does not have records of marriages or divorces prior to 1958. To inquire about marriage certificates prior to June 1958, please call the county clerk in the county where the marriage license was issued. To inquire about divorce certificates prior to June 1958, please call the circuit county clerk that granted the divorce decree.”

Kentucky Birth and Death Records are available for period 1911 and forward.

http://chfs.ky.gov/dph/vital/

statement source -
Christina S. Stewart
Administrative Branch Manager
Office of Vital Statistics
275 East Main Street, 1E-A
Frankfort, KY 40621
Phone (502) 564-4212 x3200
Fax (502) 564-9398
Christina.Stewart@ky.gov
http://chfs.ky.gov/dph/vital/


RE -
Minerva's death certificate - what year & what state/county??

1900 - Andrew & Minerva Newel do not appear on this census.
WHERE are they living - county/state.
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