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Robert Beck

Posted: 3 Nov 2012 7:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Beck
Looking for information on Robert BECK(1815?-1904?),born in Scotland and resided in Harcourt.His daughter was Elizabeth WHEATON(1872-1949)(1st md. Isaac HORTON),wife of Edward WHEATON(1869-1944).Robert may have been married twice;on Elizabeth and Isaac's marriage certificate Elizabeth's mother is listed as Isabella MORRELL(but not listed when she married Edward),while on the death certificate of who I assume is her stepbrother,Robert Wesley BECK(1878-1955),the name is Margaret LEAT/LEET.

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 4 Nov 2012 8:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Nov 2012 8:21PM GMT
ROBERT BECK b. Scotland 9JUL1814 (ca. 1814-5), d. Mortimore, Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 11JUL1904 age 90 years, m. 1st ELIZABETH McDOUGALL (b. ca. 1824, d. 12OCT1864 age 40 years, buried St. Andrew's Cemetery, Rexton, Kent Co., NB); m. 2nd ISABELLA MORRELL (b. PEI ca. 1844); m. 3rd MARGARET E. LEET (LEAT) (b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 16MAR1834 (ca. 1834-5), d. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 11JUN1909 age 75 years, buried St. Andrew's Cemetery, Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB).
In Weldford Parish, Kent Co., NB in 1871, Isabella seems to have been Robert's 2nd wife judging from her age and the ages of some of the children. The name, David H. (2), is written in after her name and crossed out. Possibly this refers to a recently deceased child. I have included David as a child on speculation.
I do see signs of a Morrel/Morrell family especially in the Summerside-Bedeque area of PEI. For example, in Bedeque in Lot 26, in 1864, were George Morrell and John Morrel. There is also mention of a Nathaniel and Susan Ann Morrell who had a son, John Ashton Morrell, b. 1873, who married a Silliker from Bedeque. The family appears to have originated with William Morrell and Jane Crossman.
In 1879, Fowler Robert Wesley Beck was b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 11OCT1879 to Robert Beck and Margaret Leat. So, if Robert was the Robert b. 1815, Margaret is likely a 3rd wife.
Elizabeth Beck b. West Branch, Kent Co., NB ca. 1894, m. Samuel Horton (b. Pine Ridge, Weldford Parish, Kent Co., NB ca. 1887), s/o John and Margaret (Wilson) Horton. She was a daughter of James and Flora Beck. The Horton's, by the way, are likely descended from a Loyalist family originating with an early, colonial family in the Southampton area of Long Island, New York.
Elizabeth Beck b. Weldford Parish ca. 1872, m. Isaac Horton, was, in her marriage record, a daughter of Isabella Morrell and Robert Beck. The same record has Isaac Horton born 'Mirimichi', which, I believe, refers either to Glenelg Parish and/or Hardwicke Parish in Northumberland Co., NB where I would anticipate finding Horton's. Isaac is given as age 44 years when he married Elizabeth, but I would suspect he was the Isaac Horton age 40 in Weldford Parish in 1871, so he may have been b. ca. 1831. In 1871, his wife was Elizabeth (30).
Although, on the marriage record, Isaac Horton gives his father as William Horton, elsewhere, such as:
http://ctclocksandtime.com/Trees/Personal/MyGed/gp1526.htm
his parents are James George and Mary Alice (Grumble) Horton. James George Horton is given as coming from Hardwicke Parish, so the Loyalist family is likely indicated. Contradicting this is the information at:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
Where Isaac is the s/o William and Elizabeth (Dutcher) Horton. Considering the fact that Isaac stated his father was William, this seems more likely. William is given as the s/o James Horton, the Loyalist I mentioned. James was the s/o Sarah Budd, descended from John Budd, hence my vague recognition of the name as John Budd was also my ancestor by a different line which, coincidentally, includes the Silliker's in Bedeque.
In Harcourt Parish, in 1881, Robert Beck (66) and Margaret (46) have children Andrew H. (3) and Robert W. (6 months). Then is listed Elizabeth Wellwood (13) apperantly unrelated; and then Alfred (10) and Elizabeth (9) Beck. This would suggest that Alfred and Elizabeth were children by Robert's 2nd marriage. Elizabeth's mother, therefore, is most likely Isabella Morrell. When James William Beck died, his mother was given as Mary Morrell
Robert (77) and Margaret E. (56) Beck are in Harcourt Parish in 1891. With them are Alfred, Andrew H. and Robert W. Margaret was b. NB, her father was b. NS and her mother was b. England. Robert and his parents were b. Scotland.
I suspect that Robert was a s/o:

BECK, William died Dec 31 1850 aged 71
native of Scotland
his wife
BECK, Isabella died Jan 18 1868 aged 87

buried in St. Mark's Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Bass River, Kent Co., NB. A William Beck m. Weldford Parish 28AUG1848 Mary Marsh. Whether this was a brother of Robert's, or the elder William in a 2nd marriage is not clear. It seems likely that these were Robert's parents as William Beck and Isobell Jardine had a son, Robert Beck, baptized in Lochmaben, Dumfriesshire, Scotland 17JUL1814. Robert was b. 9JUL1814 which nicely matches his date-of-birth in the 1901 census.

Children:
1st:
1. WILLIAM ROBERT BECK b. ca. 1854, m. MARY MURRAY.
2. ALEXANDER BECK b. ca. 1856.
3. JOHN BECK b. ca. 1857-8, m. PHOEBE _____ (b. ca. 1843).
4. GEORGE BECK b. ca. 1860.
5. CATHERINE BECK b. ca. 1862.
2nd:
6. JAMES WILLIAM BECK b. 23DEC1864 (ca. 1866, DEC1865 in 1911), d. 13JUL1948, buried West Branch Presbyterian Cemetery, Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB, m. FLORA M. WILSON (b. 31AUG1866, d. 23JUN1947), d/o James and Agnes (Morton) Wilson.
7. ISAAC BECK b. ca. 1868.
Possibly the James William Beck.
8. DAVID H. BECK b. ca. 1869.
9. ALFRED BECK b. ca. 1870-1.
J. ELIZABETH LOUISE BECK b. Molus River, Weldford Parish, Kent Co., NB 30MAY1872 (ca. 1872, 31MAY1873 in 1901, MAY1872 in 1911), d. Clarendon, Petersville Parish, Queens Co., NB 26MAY1949 age 76 years, 11 months and 26 days, m. 1st Weldford Parish, Kent Co., NB 8MAY1891 ISAAC HORTON (b. Miramichi Region, Northumberland Co., NB 21JAN1829 (ca. 1827-3, (ca. 1831-47?), age 40 in 1871), d. Mortimore (Mortimer?), Weldford Parish, Kent Co., NB 14MAR1892 age 65 years; m. 1st Elizabeth _____), s/o William and Elizabeth (Dutcher) Horton; m. 2nd Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 19DEC1896 EDWARD WHEATON (b. Lower Sackville (Westmorland Co.?), NB 28NOV1869 (ca. 1865-70); m. 1st Millie _____), s/o Cypreau (Cyrian?, Cypress?, Cyphren?) and Elizabeth (Hinton) Wheaton.
Although, in their marriage record, Edward Wheaton is given as a s/o Cyprian and Elizabeth (Hinton) Wheaton, he appears to have been, in Harcourt Parish, a few households from the Beck's, Edgar ('Edger') C. Wheaton (b. ca. 1871), s/o Cyprian and Sarah Ann Wheaton.
Isaac, in Weldford Parish in 1891, gives himself as age 45 years. This rather confuses the issue as to his birth-date. Elizabeth is age 19, and gives her father as b. Scotland and her mother as b. NB. This confuses the issue of her mother's birth-place. I cannot find that they had any children with them. Nearby is Edward 'Wheton' (35) with a wife, Millie (27). Meanwhile, next to the Beck's, is Cypress Wheaton (40) and his wife, Fanny (25), apparently a 2nd wife.
By 1948, Elizabeth lived in Clarendon Station, Queens Co., NB. In 1901 they lived in Westfield Parish, Kings Co., NB. Birth-dates in 1901 are extremely unreliable. By 1911 they were in Petersville Parish, Queens Co., NB.
Children:
1st:
J1. THOMAS HAVELOCK HORTON (WHEATON) b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 21JUN1890 or 21JUN1891 (21JUN1889 in 1901, JUN1890 in 1911).
Isaac's wife, Elizabeth Louise Bell, seems to have been alive as late as JUN1890 when she gave birth to a son, Thomas Havelock Horton. A separate record make the mother to have been Elizabeth L. Beck. A third record gives Thomas Havelock 'Heston' b. 21JUN1891, s/o Isaac and Elizabeth L. (Beck) 'Heston'. Since Elizabeth's daughter's (Annie) birth record gives her mother as Elizabeth Louise Beck I assume that 'Elizabeth Louise Bell' is, in fact, Elizabeth Beck. Isaac's wife, in 1871, was Elizabeth b. ca. 1841.
2nd:
J2. ARTHUR MAXWELL (MAX) WHEATON b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 17FEB1895 (17FEB1896 in 1901).
J3. ROBERT W. WHEATON b. 27DEC1897.
J4. CHARLES EDWARD WHEATON b. 7APR1899.
J5. AMELIA WHEATON b. OCT1901.
J6. ALFRED H. WHEATON b. OCT1903.
J7. ELIZABETH ANNE (ANNIE ELIZABETH) WHEATON b. Nerepsis, Queens Co., NB 16MAY1907 (APR1907 in 1911).
J8. GEORGE HENRY WHEATON b. Clarendon Station (Blagdon), Petersville Parish, NB 25APR1909, m. Petersville Parish, Queens Co, NB 6SEP1937 IRENE FRANCES KUPKEE.
J9. ROY IRVEN WHEATON b. Clarendon Station, Petersville Parish, NB 28APR1912.
3rd:
K. ANDREW H. BECK b. 16APR1878 (ca. 1878-9).
L. ROBERT WESLEY (WELLESLEY) FOWLER (FOWLER ROBERT WESLEY) BECK b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 11OCT1879 (5JAN1880 in 1901, ca. 1881, OCT1881 in 1911 and ca. OCT1880 in 1881, 11OCT1878 in death registration), d. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 27MAY1955, buried St. Matthew's Anglican Church Cemetery, Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NBm. MARY (MINNIE) FLORENCE McCARTY/McCARTHY (b. Mortimore, Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 11OCT1880 (DEC1883 in 1911), d. 26SEP1918 age 38 years); m. 2nd BLANCHE SPENCER (b. 1902, d. 1969, buried St. Andrew's Cemetery, Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB).
In 1901, Robert, as well as his parents and a brother, Andrew H. Beck, has in his household Andrew P. Beck b. 25DEC1883, listed as both a son and a brother. In 1911, Andrew P. is given as b. DEC1899, which seems more likely, and he was probably Robert W.'s son. 25DEC1883 may have been Mary's actual birth-date as, in 1911, she was b. DEC1883.

Thomas.

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 4 Nov 2012 9:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the info,Thomas.This does seem to correspond w/what I have already researched,and it's surprising to find that Robert had actually been married three times,not two.Kudos too on deciphering Edward's father's name on his marriage certificate w/Elizabeth-that was tough for me to read.I'll take a closer look at what you have given me.-Sarah

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 6 Nov 2012 5:28AM GMT
Classification: Query
If you are a descendant of the family which included the Mary Murray ( married to William Beck).. then you are a descendant of the Murray family which included my grandmother, Frances Marsh Powell ( Fanny).. daughter of Albert Powell & Anne Murray, sister of Mary. who lived in harcourt with her Aunt Mary & Uncle william after the death of all her immediate family members..also, my grandmother Nina Wilson was part of the James & Agnes Wilson family... so you've touched on both my parent's mothers. I would like to talk further, & know more about the Murray family.. Also.. I grew up & went to school with Wellesley Beck's grandchildren in Harcourt.. Dorothy (Warren) Gowan

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 6 Nov 2012 12:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
I don't know anything about the Murray family;at the moment I'm only tracing my blood ancestors(ie Robert Beck,my g-g-g-grandfather)and their immediate families.

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 9 Nov 2012 9:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
I need to contact the Thomasamurray1 who posted this info.. several members of my family dovetail into some of people. i can't quite get the connection from the William Beck/Mary Murray, who were the aunt & uncle of my grandmother..I've been searching for info to connect this for quite some time. I'm familiar with the descendants of the Wellesley Beck family...in the last generation, there are 2 sons living in N.B. and a daughter here in Ontario..please contact me at grandma_dg@hotmail.com.... D. Gowan

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 10 Nov 2012 3:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Nope, not connected to the Murray's except that George Murray was, supposedly, from Dumfriesshire, Scotland; so there may be a very distant kinship.

A quick look of George's family, which may or may not be useful, follows.

Thomas


GEORGE MURRAY b. Scotland ca. 1806, m. Richibucto, Kent Co., NB 27JUN1838 FRANCES (FANNY) MARSH (b. England ca. 1817).
In Weldford Parish, in 1881, the households of James Murray (36) and of 'Willim' (37) and Amanda (34) Murray were listed next to each other. With James were Mary (27) and David (23) and a widow, 'Fanie' Murray (64), presumably their mother. I do not find a comparable person in the 1871 census, nor, in 1881, do I find William Robert Peck; although he is in Kent Co., in 1882.
There was, in Weldford Parish in 1861 a Frances Murray b. England ca. 1816. There was also a George b. Scotland ca. 1806, presumably her husband. When George Murray married Frances Marsh both were of Weldford Parish. This suggests the Murray's and Beck's may have been connected as Janet Beck m. Richibucto 3AUG1835 George Marsh. William Beck m. 28AUG1849 Eliza Marsh; both of Weldford Parish.
A Mrs. Mary Murray (b. ca. 1818, d. 5JUN1857 age 39 years) of Weldford Parish m. Richibucto 3NOV1840 Alexander Morton. Possibly the Alexander Morton (b. 1822) who m. 1st Mary Burton.
Children:
1. JOHN MURRAY.
2. WILLIAM MURRAY b. ca. 1845, m. AMANDA _____ (b. ca. 1847).
3. JAMES MURRAY b. Molus River, Kent Co., NB 17JAN1844 (ca. 1845), d. Kouchibouguac, Carleton Parish, Kent Co., NB 15FEB1947 age 83 years.
4. MARGARET MURRAY.
5. daughter.
6. daughter.
7. MARY MURRAY b. ca. 1851-4, m. at her father's home, Molus River, Kent Co., NB 2AUG1882 WILLIAM ROBERT BECK (b. ca. 1854), s/o Robert and Elizabeth (McDougall) Beck..
Next door to William's family, in Weldford Parish, Kent Co., NB in 1871, was that of William (26) and Amanda (24) Murray. On the other side was the family of James (26) Murray. This suggests a fair-sized family in Weldford Parish. James' family appears to consist of his siblings, Mary (20), Eliza (18), Ann (16) and David (14). When married, Mary was the 4th daughter of George Murray. Presumably William, James and James' siblings were also children of George Murray. James and family were 'Scotch'. There was also a widow, Catherine Murray (b. Ireland ca. 1801) living with Robert (31) Kinsilla and his brothers. There were other Murray's in the parish in 1871 as well, so some care needs to be taken in assuming relationships.
Children:
71. NINA BECK b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 10FEB1887.
72. FANNY ELIZABETH BECK b. Kent Co., NB 12APR1889.
73. ELEANOR BECK b. Mortimre ('Mortimer'), Kent Co., NB 21MAR1891.
74. ANNIE MAY BECK b. Harcourt Parish, Kent Co., NB 10APR1893.
8. ELIZA MURRAY b. ca. 1853.
9. ANN MURRAY b. ca. 1855, m. ALBERT EDWARD POWELL.
J. DAVID MURRAY b. ca. 1857-8, d. Kouchibouguac, Carleton Parish, Kent Co., NB 26AUG1889 age 32 years.

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 10 Nov 2012 3:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Nov 2012 4:01AM GMT
If you have a particular question I would be happy to consider it. As I mentioned, however, I am not connected to these families, have not done an in-depth study, and only am capable of a rudimentary survey of immediately available information.

Thomas

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 9 Feb 2013 1:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Morton, Barton, MacMichael, MacTaggart
It is my opinion that the Mrs. Mary Murray mentioned in the post, who married Alexander Morton on 03 Nov 1840 was in fact Alexander's first wife, Mary Barton/Burton. Alexander was only 18 at the time and I cannot find any reference to a wife previous, and doubt their would be, given his age. In 1858, Alexander marries his 2nd wife, Mary Childs. They have a couple more children and move to Vancouver, BC.


There are a few clues to this:

1) The 1881 census has daughter Margaret Graham Morton married to William Barclay living in Restigouche. Ann Barton, seemingly Margaret's aunt, is living with them.

2) At least 1 of Alexander and Mary's children carries the name Barton as a middle name: Robert Barton Morton, born born 17 May 1852 in Restigouche, died 21 Jan 1927 in Vancouver

3) Other children similarly have ancestral surnames as middle names, such as Mary MacMichael Morton born 1841, MacMichael being Alexander's mother's maiden name. John MacTaggart (or Taggart) Morton, MacTaggart being Alexander's maternal grandmother's maiden name.

Re: Robert Beck

Posted: 9 Feb 2013 3:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Beck, Jardine, Marsh, Wilson, Carruthers
I would concur with Thomas' theory that Robert Beck was the son of William and Isabella Beck. This is further supported by the fact that the 1901 census indicates Robert Beck's birth date as 09 Jul 1814. If you look at the Scotland collection on www.familysearch.org, you can find the baptism record of Robert Beck born 09 Jul 1814 at Lochmaben, Dumfries s/o William Beck and Isobel Jardine.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYMW-48G


If you continue searches for baptisms for other children of William Beck and Isobel Jardine, you'll be able to find a few of Robert's siblings, who can also be found in New Brunswick. i.e. Janet Beck married to George Marsh, born 21 Sep 1818 at Applegarth, Dumfries and William Beck married to Eliza Marsh, born 15 Jul 1824 at Lochmaben, Dumfries.


I am a descendant of Jean Beck from Applegarth, who married David Wilson. Their daughter, Elizabeth, came to New Brunswick with her husband, James Carruthers, so I am very interested in the possible connection!
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