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John and Mary Jurison

John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 17 Mar 2013 2:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Jurison
My g.g.g.grandparents John and Mary Jurison came over to America in 1883. The 1910 census says they came from "Austria Slovak". They settled outside of Pittsburg, PA. There is a record for a John Jurison naturalization from Austria. Some modernized sources say they came from Czechoslovakia, but I find that weird because that was not established until the 1910's. If anyone knows what "Austria Slovak" means, or anything relating to the Jurisons from Austria (or Slovakia, as the case may be), please help me! Thanks so much and God bless!
~Katherine

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 17 Mar 2013 1:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Katherine

Up to 1918 it was http://brainworker.ch/Oesterreich/Austria-hungary.png
Some of our ancestors would put down Austria instead of Hungary on the US records but since they also put down "Slovak" than that suggests to me that your research, depending on the place of birth will most likely be in present Slovak Republic.

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.slovakia/mb.a...

JURIS'IN surname holders in 1995 in Slovakia in these locations:
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=jurisin&c=Sc86
There is also a surname DZURIŠIN in Slovakia.

Have you any idea of a place of birth?
Please take a look in www.ellisislandrecords.org Possible some of those JURISINs could be related to your ancestor.
Would you know Mary [Maria] maiden name?
You do need to register to Ellis Island mentioned above but no money.

An ALL site for research in Slovakia should get you going
www.iabsi.com/gen/public

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&a...

any connection to the descendants to listed the surname in www.helenezx.homestead.com Slovak Pride Index?
surname; location; descendant
Jurisin Hankovce SARIS Cizmar
Jurissin Hanigovce SARIS Matviya
Dzurisin Marhan SARIS Besserman
Dzurisin Trebisov ZEMPLIN Dzurisin
Dzurisin Trebisov ZEMPLIN Dzurisin
Dzurisin Trebisov ZEMPLIN Odorizzi

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 17 Mar 2013 4:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Jurison, Oleska
Thank you so much!! You are awesome. :D
I have no idea what Mary/Maria's maiden name was. I found her in the 1910 + 1920 census, and precious little else. In the 1910 census it lists her as being the mother of 11 kids, but only 7 still living.


My John Jurison was born abt 1852, and I did find a record for the baptism of Johannes Jurissin in a Catholic Church (the Jurison side of my family has always been Catholic) in 1852, in Rychvald, Bardejov, Slovakia. He was the son of Joannes Jurissin and Anne Kacsmar. I don't have conclusive evidence of this being my John Jurison, but I am beginning to believe that it is.


I looked on the ellis island site for the Jurisons, but I can't be sure they are relations. My grandma's dad (William Joseph Jurison, son of Andrew Albert Jurison, son of John J) died when she was very young, and they basically lost contact with the Jurison family up in PA. We didn't even know where they immigrated from until I found the census record.


I have another Austrian/Slovakian side: Andrew Albert Jurison married Anna Oleska, the daughter of Austrian/Slovakian immigrants. I think her dad's name was Michel (?). To me, their name sounds more Polish, but her parents are also listed in different records as being "Austria Slovakia" and "Czechoslovakia". Very confusing. :(


There is another man, a Peter Jurison from "Czechoslovakia", who was listed as a prisoner in a jail right outside of Pittsburgh, where my other Jurisons settled. I don't know if he is related or not.


Again, thank you for everything!! This has been a big help! :D

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 17 Mar 2013 5:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome.
Do try the church that your ancestors had the children baptized, if you have not already.
I'm sure you know that one goes backwards from oneself collecting documents on each generation.

Michal is Slovak; Mihaly is Hungarian and Michael is English for one and the same.

Richvald, Slovakia [šariš.region]
1773 Richvald, Richwald, 1786, 1863–1888 Richwald, 1808 Richvald, Rychwald, 1892–1902, 1920 Richvald, 1907–1913 Erdővágás, 1927–1946 Rychvald, 1946– Richvald [all the names this location was known by]
http://www.jcu.edu/language/hunghemu/varmegy.html

Jurisin, Agnes Hervarto, Cz. Slov. 23 1898 1921
Jurisin, Anna Hervarta, Hungary 19 1892 1911
Jurisin, Maria Hungary 21 1893 1914
Hervartov, Slovakia [ šariš.]
1773 Hervalto, Hervaltó, Herwaltuw, 1786 Herwaltó, 1786 Herwalto, 1808 Hervaltó, Herwaltowé, 1863–1913 Hervartó, 1920– Hervartov

Jurisin, Janos Ossiko 4 1895 1899
Jurisin, Janos Ossika 5 1894 1899
Jurisin, Maria Ossiko 21 1878 1899
Jurisin, Maria Ossika 22 1877 1899
Jurisin, Marie Ossiko 26 1873 1899

Osikov, Slovakia [ saris region / Saros megye]
1773 Ossiko, Ossikow, 1786 Oschiko, 1808 Osikó, Ossikowá, Osykowá, 1863–1882 Osikó, 1888–1902 Ossikó, 1907–1913 Oszikó, 1920 Osikov, Ošikov, 1927– Osikov

placenames in Saros megye:
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g145.shtml
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910

Were they Roman Catholic or Byzantine Catholic? Look in 1869 Hungarian census of Richvald.

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=21.220810&y=49.274426&z=12&...

I do not have a subscription to Ancestry so only listing the NY Ellis Island arrival manifests.

map of former Czechoslovakia www.cgsi.org

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 12:05AM GMT
Classification: Query
Some modernized sources say the came from Czechoslovakia....

Just imagine someone born in Pennsylvania prior to 1776... we would say they were born in the US, we would say they were born in the United Kingdom..

Even though Slovaks came from what were the northern counties of the old Kingdom of Hungary... that Kingdom was part of the old Habsburg Empire aka Austria-Hungary... and often times Austria and Hungary were used interchangeably in US records

It is not odd at all, as political rule changed so did they placename change

No area of the United States is home to more Slovaks than the Pittsburgh region

http://old.post-gazette.com/magazine/20010520slovaksmag2.asp

Have you tried finding records where they attended church? A Slovak Lutheren Church was established in Braddock PA The following was found from another gen posting St Paul's Slovak Evangelical Lutheran Church was organized in October of
> 1891 through the efforts of Julius Wolf for the Slovaks from Hungary.
> Services were first held in a hall on Washington Ave and in the
> Congregational Church on Talbot and Sixth St. Soon after the
> congregation secured the brick church building at Eleventh St. & Halket
> Ave, which was orginally a school. This school had been purchased by
> the Untied Presbyterian Church and was changed to a church. The
> property cost $8,000 and Andrew Carnegie donate a $2,000 pipe organ. By
> 1917 (after 26 yrs of existence) church records indicated 2718 baptisms,
> 597 marriages, and 679 funerals. The church lives on today.

As well there was a Roman Catholic Slovak Church at Braddock St Paul's Slovak Evangelical Lutheran Church was organized in October of
> 1891 through the efforts of Julius Wolf for the Slovaks from Hungary.
> Services were first held in a hall on Washington Ave and in the
> Congregational Church on Talbot and Sixth St. Soon after the
> congregation secured the brick church building at Eleventh St. & Halket
> Ave, which was orginally a school. This school had been purchased by
> the Untied Presbyterian Church and was changed to a church. The
> property cost $8,000 and Andrew Carnegie donate a $2,000 pipe organ. By
> 1917 (after 26 yrs of existence) church records indicated 2718 baptisms,
> 597 marriages, and 679 funerals. The church lives on today.

And a Slovak Prebyterian church

http://books.google.com/books/about/1903_1953.html?id=abkCtw...

And the book about Braddock indicates there were other mission churches that catered to Slovaks!

http://books.google.com/books?id=rPg_AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA192&a...

Robert

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 12:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
The priest was using Latin names... Johannes, would be John in English, Jan in Slovak and Janos in Hungarian.

There are more people with the name OLESKA listed as Slovak in the 1930 census than those listed as Polish.

Robert

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 1:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
I don't think I can say thank you enough! I will definitely check church records and all that...my family (or at least that side) is Roman Catholic. All the maps you've sent me have helped tremendously.

As you might've guessed, i'm very new to the world of foreign geneology. Besides these confusing Western Europeans and my Irish g.g.grandma, all my family is hard-core American for many generations. Thanks again! :D

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 1:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks so much, Robert!

My 'Austrian/Slovakian' family was Roman Catholic, and they actually lived in Braddock Ward, Allegheny, PA. Chances are they went to that Braddock Catholic Church; i'm going to have to plan a trip up there to personally check out some records! :)

I know precious little about Western European history, so between you and ZlaticaBeca I am trying to piece it together in my head! :) ha

Thanks again!

~Katherine

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 18 Mar 2013 2:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
From the advice you already received and some checking, it is evident that your ancestral last name had many spelling variations. It would be useful for you to discover and evaluate as many of these spelling variations as possible.

You wrote the name as Jurison, but this quickly included Jurisin. It seems there were more people with the -in ending than with the -on ending. Sift through the Ellis Island records, by checking also for the start of the name being Dz or Gy which are all very similar sounds. In other words, check the USA arrivals with spellings Gyurisin, Dzurisin, Gjurisin, Djurisin and Gurisin.

There is one open question, namely, why was the starting letter (if it was J) not changed to Y in the USA. For me, this fact would tend to increase the probability that the name of your ancestral family was already spelt with a starting J, rather than Dz or Gy. In any case, look at the arrival records of people who had the first letter spelled with Gy, Dz and variations of these.

Regards, Fritz Königshofer, Bethesda, Maryland

Re: John and Mary Jurison

Posted: 15 May 2013 1:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you so much, Fritz! I will definitely check out and try and sort through all the different variations of the names.

~Katherine Williams, Henrico, Virginia
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