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Gerges Marie JENSEN and Simon Peter JENSEN of Hvejsel

Posted: 26 Apr 2012 6:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Jensen, Andersen,
I came across my ancestor Simon Peter Jensen on the Hamburg Passenger Lists, Departure Date: 5 Apr 1883 to Adelaide, Australia and found a Gerges Marie Jensen on the same ship. I think she might be his sister.

On the passenger list I found Simon Peter Jensen, Marie Andersen and then Gerges Marie Jensen - all residents of Hveisel, Dänemark.

Ship Name: Procida

Name: Simon Peter Jensen
Departure Date: 5 Apr 1883
Destination: Adelaide, Australia
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Age Year: 20
Residence: Hveisel, Dänemark
Occupation: Landmann

Name:Gerges Marie Jensen
Departure Date: 5 Apr 1883
Destination: Adelaide, Australia
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Age Year: 23
Residence: Hveisel, Dänemark

Name: Marie Andersen
Departure Date: 5 Apr 1883
Destination: Adelaide
Estimated Birth
Year:
abt 1827
Age Year: 56
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Family:
Relationship: Frau (Wife)
Residence: Hveisel, Dänemark


I'm not sure if Marie Andersen sailed with them, I just found it odd that her name was between theres.

I haven't been able to find Simon Peter Jensen any information about him prior to arrving in Australia. Can anyone help me searching them on Danish databases?

I am able to find Simon Peter Jensen's marriage in Australia and the birth of two of his children and later in New Zealand but I can't seem to find any record of Gerges Marie Jensen or Marie Andersen in Australia.

Regards,
Dulcie

Re: Gerges Marie JENSEN and Simon Peter JENSEN of Hvejsel

Posted: 26 Apr 2012 3:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 Apr 2012 12:41AM GMT
Hi Dulcie,

Attached is your ancestor Simon Peder Jensen's birth record, from Hveisel, Vejle
born 19 Sep 1862, parents: Jens Christian Simonsen and Anne Mette Hansdatter

Here's the family in February 1860 census, then at Brande:

Vejle, Nørvang, Brande, Brande, , Et Hus, 4, FT-1860
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jens Christian Simonsen 28 Gift Husfader Jordbruger Hveisel Veile A.
Mette Hansdatter 32 Gift Hans Kone Her i Sognet
Mette Marie Jensen 5 Ugift Deres Børn Sindbjerg V.A.
Rasmine Karoline Jensdatter 3 Ugift Deres Børn Nykirke V.A.
Hansine Simine Sørine Jensen 1 Ugift Deres Børn Her i Sognet
Hans Hansen Læborg 60 Gift Aftægtsmand Læborg Ribe A.
Karen Jensdatter 56 Gift Hans Kone Her i Sognet
Anne Katrine Hansdatter 32 Ugift Deres Datter Her i Sognet

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A daughter Inger Marie Jensen was born there 4 July 1860.

(Could "Gerges" be a nickname for Inger?)

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Here is Simon Peter's father and grandparents in earlier censuses:

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Vejle, Nørvang, Hvejsel, Bjerløv, , en Gaard, 126, FT-1834
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Simon Hansen 59 Gift Gaardmand
Mette Marie Olesdatter 30 Gift Hans Kone
Mette Marie Simonsdatter 20 Ugift Deres Børn, de 2de første Konens Stedbørn
Jørgen Simondsen 18 Ugift Deres Børn, de 2de første Konens Stedbørn
Ole Simonsen 5 Ugift Deres Børn, de 2de første Konens Stedbørn
Jens Christian Simonsen 2 Ugift Deres Børn, de 2de første Konens Stedbørn

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Vejle, Nørvang, Hvejsel, Bjerlev Bye, , en Gaard, 75, FT-1840
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Simon Hansen 68 Gift Gaardmand [age should be ca. 65]
Mette Marie Oles Datter 39 Gift hans Kone
Ole Simonsen 11 Ugift deres Børn
Jens Christian Simonsen 8 Ugift deres Børn
Johan Simonsen 5 Ugift deres Børn

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Simon Hansen died 17 April 1842, age 68-1/4 and Mette Marie Olesdatter married Søren Jacobsen 21 December 1842

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Vejle, Nørvang, Hvejsel, Bjerløv Bye, , en Gaard, 88, FT-1845
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Søren Jacobsen 32 Gift Gaardmand Her i Sognet
Mette Marie Olesdatter 44 Gift Hans Hustru Langskov Sogn Veile Amt
Ole Simonsen 16 Ugift Deres Børn Her i Sognet
Jens Christian Simonsen 13 Ugift Deres Børn Her i Sognet
Johan Simonsen 10 Ugift Deres Børn Her i Sognet
Jacob Lukassen 1 Ugift Deres Børn Her i Sognet

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Vejle, Nørvang, Hvejsel, Bjerlev Bye, , en Gaard, 103, FT-1850
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Søren Jacobsen 37 Gift Gaardmand, Huusfader Her i Sognet, Hvejsel
Mette Marie Olesdatter 49 Gift hans Hustru Langskov Sogn, Veile Amt
Jens Christian Simonsen 18 Ugift deres Søn Her i Sognet, Hvejsel
Johan Simonsen 15 Ugift Omstaaende Forældres Børn Her i Sognet, Hvejsel
Jacob Sørensen Lucassen 6 Ugift Omstaaende Forældres Børn Do [ Her i Sognet, Hvejsel]
Johanne Christensdatter 31 Ugift Syg og Svagelig, indtinget fos Huusfaderen paa Fattigvæsenets Regning Do [ Her i Sognet, Hvejsel]

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Jens Christian Simonsen was born 7 May 1832 Hveisel.

Mette Hansdatter was born 4 May 1827 Brande, parents Hans Hansen and Karen Jensdatter.

Here is Mette's family in 1834 and 1840 censuses:

Vejle, Nørvang, Brande, Østerholm, , Et Huus, 25, FT-1834
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jens Christensen Kragsig 64 Gift Aftægtsfolk
Ane Cathrine Sørensdatter 67 Gift Aftægtsfolk
Jens Nielsen 10 Ugift Plejebarn
Hans Hansen Læborg 34 Gift Indsiddere for Tiden
Karen Jensdatter 30 Gift Indsiddere for Tiden
Ane Cathrine Hansdatter 6 Ugift Deres Børn [name mistake by census taker or transcriber?]
Hans Jakob Hansen 1 Ugift Deres Børn
Mette Marie Christensdatter 25 Ugift Tjenestepige

[? - Læborg name is not shown Mette's birth or confirmation records]

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Vejle, Nørvang, Brande, Brandlund Bÿ, , Et Huus, 1, FT-1840
Name: Age: Marital status: Occupation in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Hans Hansen Læborg 40 Gift Huusmand
Karen Jensdatter 36 Gift Hans Kone
Mette Hansdatter 13 Ugift Deres Børn
Hans Jacob Hansen 7 Ugift Deres Børn
Else Marie Mortensdatter 21 Ugift Tjenestepige
Hans Laust Poulsen 11 Ugift I Kost der i Huset


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Re: Gerges Marie JENSEN and Simon Peter JENSEN of Hvejsel

Posted: 29 Apr 2012 11:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks so much for that!

Just for my notes, which database(s) did you get this from?

Also, do you know of any website that describes/translates Danish census information - Google translate is not that great.

With regards to Gerges Marie Jensen, it could be Inger Marie Jensen. I've attached the Passenger List - see line 97. Simone Peter is on line 95.
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Re: Gerges Marie JENSEN and Simon Peter JENSEN of Hvejsel

Posted: 30 Apr 2012 4:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Simon Peter's birth record is from the online Danish Archives: http://www.sa.dk/ao/

The census listing is from transcribed censuses at: http://ddd.dda.dk/ddd_en.htm

I don't have a handy Danish-English site for the old terms, which were often spelled differently back then.
Perhaps one of our Danish friends can help.

Although I think "Gerges" Marie was probably Simon's sister Inger Marie, it is plainly spelled Gerges in both this listing and the other Hamburg listing on Ancestry, which incidently lists Inger after Simon, without the Marie Andersen between them.

Re: Gerges Marie JENSEN and Simon Peter JENSEN of Hvejsel

Posted: 30 Apr 2012 11:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
>Also, do you know of any website that describes/translates Danish census information -
> Google translate is not that great.


Maybee this website can help!


http://mydanishroots.com/home.html

http://mydanishroots.com/research-guides/2-census-records-an...

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