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Bruce is not a Clan

Bruce is not a Clan

T.A. Bruce (View posts)
Posted: 15 Apr 2002 10:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
We Bruces have never been a "Clan." We are a "Name," "Family," or "House" instead.

The major difference is that all Bruces are considered to be related by blood, however distantly, while the members of a Clan may or may not be actually related by blood.

In addition, the distinction in our case relates to our background being Norman and Lowland scots, rather than Highland Scots.

The Bruces were a long established Family in Scotland long before the formation of most of the Clans.


Thomas Allen Bruce
OStJ, FSA(Scot)

High Commissioner of the Chief of the Name of Bruce

Re: Bruce is not a Clan

Posted: 26 Jun 2005 8:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Aug 2005 4:14PM GMT
Surnames: Bruce

Dear Mr Bruce:

I was responsible for the creation of the Scottish Clans
message boards and mailing lists in 2001-2002.
My reply to you is long overdue and I apologize for
that. My schedule in 2002 had suddenly taken a major
turn in terms of my other responsbilities so I released
all of the message boards and mailing lists to other
people that could devote more time to the duties.

Your statements and position are absolutely correct
in all aspects.

There were several difficulties and aspects regarding
these pages that perhaps will help clarify the situation.

A: The control board of Rootsweb required a means to assess
the legitimate background in order to establish new message
boards and mailing lists. I had wanted to use the Lyon court
but they demanded a web site with ready access. That
web site was then the basic reference point ( over my
B: The Administration also decided that we could not label
some groups as a Clan and some groups as a Family.
So again to resolve the issues and at least get a central
point where Scottish ancestors, Culture etc could be
discussed, we finally agreed to use the modifier "Clan"
C: The surname group "Bruce" was also being used
and is still a frequent place for members of the Bruce
family to post. There is always some questions as to
when the Culture, Music, gatherings etc are allowed
on those pages and boards.

I hope this helps to clarify the situation and my deepest
apologies if the use of the term Clan offends you and
anyone of the family that has such deep roots in Scotland.

Best Regards
John A Hansen
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