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Clan vs. Sept?

Clan vs. Sept?

Posted: 2 Feb 2003 7:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, all.

I'm descended from Crawford (mother's maiden name). This board is confusing me, as I've seen postings referring to Clan Crawford. I'm trying to find ancestry of Robert H. Crawford, b. abt. 1817, MS, America.

From my searchings, I've only found information that states that Crawford is a Sept of the Clan Lindsay.

I haven't done a lot of research into the European Clans, so can someone out there straighten me out on the whole Clan & Sept thing? What, exactly, is the relationship between the two terms? Some surnames are linked to Clans and others are referred to as Septs; it's very confusing.

Any help will be appreciated.

Fred

Re: Clan vs. Sept?

Posted: 15 Jun 2003 4:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Crawford, Joyner, Guthrie, Moore, Eppinette
Fred,
Sorry, my first reply to your posting went on as a new message, not a response. I've found the same info in my research about Crawford being a sept of Clan Lindsay. I forgot to mention that I am researching Patrick Crawford of SC or Belfast, who appears to the be patriarch of a long line of Crawfords who populated St. Tammany Parish in Louisiana in the early 1800s. I'll keep an eye out for your ancestor. Good luck.

Re: Clan vs. Sept?

Posted: 15 Jun 2003 9:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the reply, Carole.

All I know about my Crawfords involves MS>TN>TX. I've been unable to go back further than 1817, so SC could have been before MS.

Fred

Re: Clan vs. Sept?

Kevan Crawford (View posts)
Posted: 19 Feb 2004 10:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry to be dramatic here, but I have fun with this topic from time to time. Let the word go forth from this point on, Clan Crawford is not a sept of Clan Lindsay. The Crawford surname existed before the Lindsay surname. The Lindsay family obtained their estates in Lanarkshire by marriage into the Crawford family. Please do not allow this fallacy to continue. There is no Clan Crawford organization today and I'm not sure a Clan organization could be revived unless a lot of people start feeling some unity. But for heavens sakes, we can be proud of the name with a little independence from the Lindsays.

Re: Clan vs. Sept?

Dave Denholm (View posts)
Posted: 22 Feb 2004 12:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Crawford
You're response coincides with my studies as well. The Crawford clan is a lowland clan, many of which have been interspersed over the centuries with other clans. I believe your Lindsay/Crawford connection is correct. (My grandmother was a Crawford, and her father related the Lindsay connection to her.) Incisentally, clans can be revived: the Clan Moffat is a recent revival.

Re: Clan vs. Sept?

Posted: 10 Mar 2004 3:27AM GMT
Hi Kevan,
I'm feeling some unity! Let's revive the Crawford Clan Organization here and now! All interested reply to freepony777@yahoo.com. My GGrandfather was Rush Crawford of Nevada MO. He was the orchestral leader for "Crawford's Comedians" the largest travelling tent show in the Southwestern US.

Re: Clan vs. Sept?

Kevan Crawford (View posts)
Posted: 24 Dec 2004 1:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Crawford
A Clan Crawford Association web site is being developed this Dec 2004 at:
http://www.clancrawford.org/
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