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ACOM source citation process excluding URLs

ACOM source citation process excluding URLs

Posted: 29 Sep 2013 1:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Sep 2013 1:15PM GMT
I've begun to note of late that many ACOM citation builds are now excluding URL links. For example, try adding/citing the following person/record...

Virginia, Marriages, 1740-1850 ( http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3723&enc=... )
Name: Leonora C. Lovell
Gender: Female
Spouse Name: Henry Rogers
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 5 Aug 1812
County: Henrico
State: Virginia

Anyone else been experiencing this?

Re: ACOM source citation process excluding URLs

Posted: 29 Sep 2013 1:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, that's been going on at least a few days, now you mention it. The URL is no longer in the citation for the item for 1860 and 1870 US Census, although it is saved as link to the citation title listing under "Source Information."

Gack.

Re: ACOM source citation process excluding URLs

Posted: 29 Sep 2013 9:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Sep 2013 9:51PM GMT
Yes, no urls in recent citations.. probably a bad idea to have used/relied on them anyway. The fundamental principle of a citation is to enable others to verify our work by going back to the source - verify our work now or in ten/twenty years. In ten years time expecting an ACOM url to be valid is a big mistake. The ACOM urls are tightly bound to the current design and structure of ACOM's systems. Eventually, tomorrow or in ten years time, the system design will need to be overhauled - it will be a chore to keep the "old" urls working and ACOM will abandon them. Compare a FamilySearch citation url with one from ACOM.

What will remain for generations to come are correct citations that point to the source. ACOM can't even get the very basics right - simply putting correct census roll, page, image information in citations eludes them. Just yesterday:

Citation from source index record:

Year: 1920; Census Place: Tallula, Menard, Illinois; Roll: T625_393; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 106; Image: 248.

Citation as recorded in AMT (in exported .ged and of course synced to FTM):

Year: 1920; Census Place: Tallula, Menard, Illinois

The AMT source citation attachment process has been broken for a long time and is still broken. This process keeps adding more and more bad citations to all our hard work. In my insignificant little trees I have literally thousands of bogus source citations,, but why worry, I should just "Suck it up" and be grateful. If we really are "good people here striving for perfection" aint never going to get there with the very basics not done correctly - source citations.

Re: ACOM source citation process excluding URLs

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 12:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Sep 2013 12:08AM GMT
"Compare a FamilySearch citation url with one from ACOM."

...and how many old Family Search URL's no longer work? I must have a bunch. It's an unfortunate nature of the beast that databases will be re-organized and we'll just have to adapt. God forbid someone might have to ferret out a new source URL using citation info alone.
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