I am the grandson of Henry and Lillian Newman and the great grandson of Samuel Newman and Sirilda Messer Newman who lived in Carter County from about 1865 through the early 1920's. Any further information anyone could provide on both my ancestory would be appreciated.
The following is the Carter Co., Ky. lineage of Lillian Pence Newman. I hope it is helpful to you.
* Rawley Stallard m. Mary Elizabeth Hutchinson Stallard
. * Green C. Stallard (17 Jul 1817) - (27 Jul 1907) m. Elizabeth Davis Stallard (1822) -
. . * Rosanna "Rose" Stallard Fultz (8 Oct 1855) - (8 Jan 1891) m. (28 Aug 1874) John T. Fultz (14 Feb 1857) - (20 Jul 1912)
. . . * Mary Ellen Fultz Pence (1886) - (1966) m. (30 Nov 1912) William Lan Pence (1876) - (1960)
. . . . * Lillian Pence Newman (1905) - m. (17 May 1922) Henry Newman (1899) -
Hi my name is lynn and my greatgrandfather was ARTHUR ZADOCK NEWMAN b.july 30 1882 in ala. d.july 21,1953 in Ga. his wife was LEOLAR NARSISSUS STOREY , her parents were JAKE STOREY b.1833-1862 d.1887-1947 and SAMANTHA (SAMATHA) MESSER b.1842-1865 d.1887-1953 there children were Leolar,Luther,Lillie,Robert,Henry,J.D.,Charlie,Alice, thats all i have on the messer's have more on the newman's
also have dates on these children if you need them Thanks lynn
Sam and Sirilda Messer Newman had the following children:
Leroy newman married Florance Collier
Henry Newman married Lillian Pence
Lily Newman married ? Flake
Cordie newman married ? Wilson
Sirilda's siblings include Morton, frank, Jim, and john Messer. If you have any dates to go with these names please share them with me.
I have a Sam Newman who had a son William
Sams brothers were Newt Joe Martha Jack Tom Catherine and Carrie
I'm not sure if my Sirilda Messer is the same as yours, because I don't have information on who she married, but here's my info (I have more, if it seems to fit):
Sirilda Messer, b. June 1876
d. of Jacob Messer and Mary Ellen McGuire
other children include:
James Garfield (my great grandfather)
On the Messer side, the only additional info I have is that Jacob Messer (b. 10/25/1846 in Wayne Co., WV) is the son of Jacob Messer (b. SC) and Nancy Coburn (b. KY), and a bit more biographical info.
On the McGuire side, Mary Ellen (b. October 16, 1853) (who, for what it's worth, my grandmother says was a very nasty woman) ties into a few pretty well-documented Revolutionary War families (you'll find loads of references to them online) - McGuire, Haney, Preston, and Coffee.
Hope that helps - let me know if I can share any more info!
I am the granddaughter of Roy and Florence Collier Newman.
Great Granddaughter of Samuel and Srilda Messer Newman.
I have some info and will share, just email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
and let me know what you need.
Do you have any info on Samuel Newman?
Lillian Pence was my great aunt, if her father was george Pence.
I am also related to Sam & Sarilda Newman. They are my great grandparents. Cordia Ann Newman who married Jack Alvin Wilson is my grandparents. I think Sam Newman died June 21, 1890; Sarilda died 1936; I beleive their children names are: James, Henry, Leonard, Joe, Lee R., Lily, Tish, Cordia Ann, Arville [moved to Baltimore Maryland]. Sam is on a 1920 Census being born 1870 and died 1945. Some of the dates don't make sense because his marraige was before his birth. Some of the dates I have can't be right. But maybe they might give you some more clues. If you go on www.fsbeta.familysearch.org
you might find a census copy image to save for a record. If I find anything else I will let you know. I have a few pictures but not on disk, they are copies on printing machines.
I have the same family. Cordia was my grandmother. Cordia Ann Newman was born on February 2 1912 died Aug 18 1996; she married Jack Wilson who was the son of Moses and Lucy Dickerson Wilson of Carter County Precint 4. She was the daughter of Sam and Sarilda Newman. Sam died on June 21 1890 and married Sarilda about 1832. Sarilda died Jan 3 1936. Sam and Sarilda Newman residence in 1920 was Carter County. If you go on Carter County geaneology site you could propably find all of these people. It is rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kycarter/.